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[DISCUSS] psx4droid and XPERIA Play

so i have a paid version of psx4droid v2 on the x10 and it lags on most psx games. i want to know if the lag is mainly related to the CPU or the GPU?
it looks like the Xperia Play is going to be exclusively offered in Canada first and i will try to get my hands on one on launch day but would like to know how much psx emulation will be improved with the Xperia Play compared to the X10.
i'm a die hard SE fan but with the atrix and galaxy s II offering dual-core 1GHz and larger batteries, it will be difficult to stay loyal. i want my next phone to be able to play psx without lag since that is the most resource-intensive thing i do on the phone and was wondering if the Play will be up to the task with its newer CPU (Qualcomm 8255 vs 8250) and its newer GPU (Adreno 205 vs 200).
i need your input please.

good question I think cause it's android and cause it's gaming oriented maybe it won't lag but there's just a chance that xperia play has it's own games this means games created to use it's processor, ram, etc
not sure if psxdroid won't lag

Try FPse... It's a much better playstation emulator, it doesn't lag at all for me!

Also, try messing with the settings, some games require you to change the framerate and such, i found out some games ran alot smoother. Otherwise, like fiscidtox said, FPse.

Isn't FPse for android 2.2 + ?

kontur said:
Isn't FPse for android 2.2 + ?
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yes.. it is

I'm on freex10 beta 4 and it works flawlessly.. FPse is the best emulator on android imo

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Try FPse... It's a much better playstation emulator, it doesn't lag at all for me!
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Thank you very much. I been on psx4droid i never realised about FPse, runs alot faster.

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Thank you very much. I been on psx4droid i never realised about FPse, runs alot faster.
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No problem
Yeah it is definitely much better.. Psx4droid was very laggy and glitchy, I never have any issues with FPse. It is worth every penny.

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that explains why i couldn't find it on the market..
guess i'll have to switch to 2.2+ as i'm still using the stock 2.1. but that makes me feel confident that i won't need a dual-core CPU to run PSX games, i just need a better emulator (FPseCe).
before I do the rom upgrade, can anyone tell me if the emulator features custom hardware button mapping? i have a datel bluetooth wireless gamepad that works off the WiimoteControl software as i can't stand playing using the on-screen controls. will i be able to use it with FPseCe?

azian_advanced said:
that explains why i couldn't find it on the market..
guess i'll have to switch to 2.2+ as i'm still using the stock 2.1. but that makes me feel confident that i won't need a dual-core CPU to run PSX games, i just need a better emulator (FPseCe).
before I do the rom upgrade, can anyone tell me if the emulator features custom hardware button mapping? i have a datel bluetooth wireless gamepad that works off the WiimoteControl software as i can't stand playing using the on-screen controls. will i be able to use it with FPseCe?
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yep you can do that!

thanks. i have another question to add: i still haven't made the update yet to see for myself but with psx4droid, it only reads directional buttons (up, down, left, right) but doesn't read diagonal movements making action games very hard to play (most of the psx roms i have are all action). i use my datel bluetooth controller on my sony vaio using a psx emulator and it reads diagonal movements fine so i know the controller is not the problem.
i want to know if anyone has tried a bluetooth game controller with FPseCe and if diagonal movements work fine. if it doesn't, the problem can either be related to the wiimote controller plug-in software or in the FPseCe emulator itself. the reason i ask this is because if it doesn't work, then there's a chance the xperia play's diagonal actions on the directional buttons won't work either. this is the last criteria on my list on whether the xperia play will be my next phone. otherwise, there's no point in getting the phone because i find playing psx games much more fun than android-based games.. and that i might as well go for the Arc instead for the premium hawtness and larger lcd.
on a random side note, i've just realized the trend in how long i have been keeping my phones before going out to buy a new one... t68i (3 years), s700i (2.5 years), p1i (2 years), x1a (1.5 years), x10a (8 months and counting)......... i'm planning to get the Play or Arc in 2 months but i wonder how long that will last me until i decide to upgrade again.... 6 months?

Yes I'm using a wiimote and diagonal works perfectly... Trust me it is a much better emulator. There is nothing psx4droid can do that this can't.
On another note, play or arc are both ridiculous in my mind.. Technology that is already dated and, as you said, will require upgrade in a few months..I'd save your money and keep x10...

the reason i want to switch phones is because my battery is not holding a charge and lasts about half the day with little use. also, all the batteries on ebay are all garbage and a legit bst-41 battery is almost $100 total (last time i checked).
the reason i bought the x10 was because the battery in my x1a wouldn't hold a charge to last for more than 4 hours on standby only. at the time i got my x10 for $420 from someone who upgraded his wife's phone who didn't need it. at that price, it came with a new battery making the phone itself cost only about $320.
so rather than buying a new battery, why not upgrade to another phone that has the same battery (bst-41)? the way i see it, i will be getting a discount on the xperia play since it includes a new battery already that comes included with the price.
i totally agree with it not having any real significant hardware advantage over the x10 but the fact that it comes with game controls built-in is what is winning me over. i predict the next time SE will be coming out with another flagship android smartphone won't be for another year and i don't think i'll be able to hold on to my x10 for that long. i'm not a fan of other brands as they all put soft-touch buttons at the bottom and most of them also don't make phones that have the same sort of quality feel and design as SE.

I really don't find SE makes that quality of a feeling phone.. It is very plastic and feels like it would break easily. Plus the screen is pretty flimsy...
I love my x10, but I never got how people say that the build quality of x10 is spectacular.

fiscidtox said:
Try FPse... It's a much better playstation emulator, it doesn't lag at all for me!
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true. its much better.
and then hook up a wii controller to ur bluetooth and ur having so much fun !

I tried fpse it's smooth indeed, but i can't save game any spot i want, i can't assign hardware key, the onscreen keyboard of landscape is crap, or am I missed something?

You can assign hardware keys, just go to input in settings. As for saving I'm not sure I haven't yet but I'm sure you can

read the user manual now got all those function work but still a major problem.
playing ff7 the character is always moving against my will, did you guys experience something like this?

My nexus one pays most emulated games well. N64 games are really not paying well though. Hoping that although xperia play is the same cpu, the better graphics card will help.
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[DISCUSS] [POLL] Sony Ericsson Xperia Play - A Breakthrough for Android gaming?

Does anyone else think that due to SE releasing an Android based "PSP" phone we will finally get to see more and more high-quality games on our android phones?
Personally I won't be buying the Xperia play but I strongly believe that due to it's release a lot more developers will jump on the android gaming bandwagon, which will then obviously benefit a range of Android phone owners (Desire HD anyone?)
So whats your opinion? Will the Xperia play help Android reach or even exceed the gaming quality we have seen on the Iphone? (no fart apps, in terms of 3D FPS, RPG, etc....). Will the Xperia be such a breakthrough that developers will (finally) dump iOS and develope for Android first!?

I really hope the games reeased on the Play will have no soft keys and all the leaching oppurtunisists will finally buy atleast the consolse

No, games are coming anyways. Especially now that Nvidia has there own app/market for quality games.

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No, games are coming anyways. Especially now that Nvidia has there own app/market for quality games.
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Problem is Tegra Zone only works with Tegra devices. The Xperia play is built on snapdragon scorpion.
The Xperia Play will bring a different crowd in. One of the benefits of it is there will be Playstation games you can download and play, and that some games on Android are optimized for the controller. It really won't bring anything major in though, since as far as gpu goes it's not all that much faster than what we have now.

Correction-Tegra Zone is available to any device with a resolution of 480x800, and running Android 2.1.

I hope that more good games come out; there are some good ones now but personally, I think that games are better if you have separate controls.

I think it's brilliant. But I also call it the Emulator Phone. I'm going to rock it ASAP since no one will release a decent Bluetooth gamepad.
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Yes and no.
I've tried one and it's very nice, the gameplay is surprisingly smooth.
The one clear advantage it has is the bespoke gaming controls. In that respect no other Android handset can compete.
The problem with it, as with SE in general, is the tech is behind the curve.
There are handsets being released with much more processing capability that would provide a better gaming experience if properly utilised.
If SE had made used some sort of dual-core CPU or better yet the same CPU as the NGP will use then it would undoubtedly be the cream of the crop for gaming on Android, as it is it will face stiff competition and content is likely to be the deciding factor. In that respect, SE have a slight edge as they're using Sony's existing ties with games developers to bring in exclusive titles to the Play but I would imagine that a lot of games developers will also look to bring their games to a wider market as well.
Only time will tell how successful SE's strategy will be...

Step666 said:
Yes and no.
I've tried one and it's very nice, the gameplay is surprisingly smooth.
The one clear advantage it has is the bespoke gaming controls. In that respect no other Android handset can compete.
The problem with it, as with SE in general, is the tech is behind the curve.
There are handsets being released with much more processing capability that would provide a better gaming experience if properly utilised.
If SE had made used some sort of dual-core CPU or better yet the same CPU as the NGP will use then it would undoubtedly be the cream of the crop for gaming on Android, as it is it will face stiff competition and content is likely to be the deciding factor. In that respect, SE have a slight edge as they're using Sony's existing ties with games developers to bring in exclusive titles to the Play but I would imagine that a lot of games developers will also look to bring their games to a wider market as well.
Only time will tell how successful SE's strategy will be...
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as someone on engadget said, i think the reason SE went with "lower end hardware" is because they wanted the lowest common denominator for the PS suite games, if the PS suite games are built around the play's processor/GPU it should mean higher end phones can run the games without issue

silvacrest said:
as someone on engadget said, i think the reason SE went with "lower end hardware" is because they wanted the lowest common denominator for the PS suite games, if the PS suite games are built around the play's processor/GPU it should mean higher end phones can run the games without issue
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Given their clearly-stated intention to restrict compatibility to a small range of 'certified' handsets, that point is moot IMO.
They could easily have used higher-spec hardware themselves and only certified equally high-spec handsets.
As it stands, the Play aside, the only phones that will definitely be able to play the Playstation branded games are Tegra2 handsets, which are definitely better specced than the Play.

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Correction-Tegra Zone is available to any device with a resolution of 480x800, and running Android 2.1.
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Well,the Tegra Zone app itself will work with any device with the specs you mentioned,but games will run only on Tegra devices,so it's no good.

It all depends on how well the games can be played without Xperia Play.
I'd rather carry a phone with qwerty key pad than a game pad.

Those are 10 games out the 50 that will be available... keep in mind that those games are re-designed to work with the game-pad
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silvacrest said:
as someone on engadget said, i think the reason SE went with "lower end hardware" is because they wanted the lowest common denominator for the PS suite games, if the PS suite games are built around the play's processor/GPU it should mean higher end phones can run the games without issue
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That was me! I said that!
Also, I voted yes cause I'm going to develop for android cause of it.
I just need to find a quick-start guide
I tried the android emulator, but its slow as hell on my PC...

Gaming on android is improving, more and more developers are starting to port their games to droids. However, it has nothing to do with Xperia Play - it's sales are very low, hardware is not good enough, etc.

Unrealwolf said:
it's sales are very low
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Ive been told by retailers there is a shortage
The Rogers guys showing them off at Videogames Live used Verizon's units cause they said there were far too few to waste any on demos
One retailer I went to only got 1.

Unrealwolf said:
Gaming on android is improving, more and more developers are starting to port their games to droids. However, it has nothing to do with Xperia Play - it's sales are very low, hardware is not good enough, etc.
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How is the hardware not good enough?
Nova 2, Cordy, Backstab, Asphalt 6 look good and pay well.
Gingerbread flies on the Xperia Play.

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Gaming on android is improving, more and more developers are starting to port their games to droids. However, it has nothing to do with Xperia Play - it's sales are very low, hardware is not good enough, etc.
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yeah.....forgive me but i call BS, do you even have a source/link to your low sales claim?
as for the hardware not being good enough? no one here will lie and say the play is using the highest specs available but its good enough for everything gaming related on android right now, i dont know if you have a play (but judging from your above comment, i doubt it) but coming from someone who does, its great, if your only looking at reviews/non-confirmed sales/specs and coming to a conclusion your missing out
why has no one mentioned the playstation Suite? i no its still a long way off but its coming and it will be a great source for android phones in general as well as xperia play games

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yeah.....forgive me but i call BS, do you even have a source/link to your low sales claim?
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Nope. I'm only considering overall enthusiasm about this phone on the internet forums. The enthusiasm is more or less non present at all. Of course, there is still a way that A LOT of people are buying it and, before they could even post on XDA, suddenly dying from an endless joy they recieve from playing those top-notch gameloft games, which all (except for, well, one) has been available for iOS for months, but i find it quite unrealistic.
Anyway, to improve the gaming situation this phone should be popular, i mean, POPULAR, like top HTC or Samsung phones are, with all their multimillion sales. And this phone is not. I suppose, it is even less desireable then it's brother Xperia Arc.
as for the hardware not being good enough? no one here will lie and say the play is using the highest specs available but its good enough for everything gaming related on android right now
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Right now, this phone is outdated. Hardware is good for 2010, but now it is 2011, and there are already some exclusive games that won't even launch on a single-core CPU smartphone. And Play have to survive in this environment for at least a year. The only hope is that Sony will pay for development of a new games especially for Play.
Phone is ideal for emulators, though.
why has no one mentioned the playstation Suite? i no its still a long way off but its coming and it will be a great source for android phones in general as well as xperia play games
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Yep. Let's hope that this thing will really bring something.

this is the best thing to come to retro console emulation... ever
if you are a retro gaming hobbyist... this is the phone to get period.
I don't know how much more enthusiasm people are wanting. There aren't really any identifiable flaws with it and it has the latest and greatest of everything. I personally think this is the best phone ever.
Is it a revolution for handheld gaming in phone form? I think the idea's been done before so no... but put this up agianst a n-gage and see which one wins

Games on the DHD

I am a recentish owner of the Desire HD. I'm loving it. I flashed a custom rom on it and I love it more. I am well aware of the horsepower in this baby and that iphone 4 is nothing compared to it... My question is this: Why do major game developers avoid android, and go for the iphone throwing out all sorts of super games that would work even better on the DHD (and please avoid the financial part, i'm well aware apple brainwashed many into buying iphone 4).
I had to post this topic because I feel a bit frustrated seeing gameloft develop nova 2, dungeon hunter 2, etc. for iphone and android gets Shrek Kart 3d... REALLY? Ea games barely developed 2-3 games and popcap is in the same boat but with 0 games. (with a near-future release of games).

There are quite a few HD Gameloft games that work just fine. Just not the newest ones that you mentioned (DH2, Nova2 etc) because they just came out for iphone and are probably not ported yet. I'm pretty sure though that they will come out eventually.
Check out their homepage, you can buy all the games directly there. All the good ones are available for android but not all of them are in the market. At least where i live (europe).
Keep in mind that the DHD is half a year old and one of the first really powerful (gaming wise) android devices. So i think in the future lots of good games will come out once the hardware is reasonably spread.
[e] I just read a news that gameloft is working toghether with Qualcomm now (who made the chips for the DHD).

Yes, i know about the android games and where I can buy them from, the thing that bothers me is that games for android are "ported' and not built. It's really demeaning, plus it loses a bit of quality imho

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Yes, i know about the android games and where I can buy them from, the thing that bothers me is that games for android are "ported' and not built. It's really demeaning, plus it loses a bit of quality imho
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The reason is simple:
1. As powerful as the DHD is, the current generation of adreno, lacks in comparison to powervr in the iphone 4, it can shift nearly twice the polygons adreno can.
2. IOS only uses one CPU chipset, there. Are now 2 diffent types used in android (arm & omap) each of these chipsets use diffrent types of textures in 3D games, meaning for android, devs have to write the game twice.....
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I've always been frustrated with gaming on Android. Even since Android 1.5 people have been saying "give it a little while and Android will be equal in terms of gaming" but it still hasn't happened. Not that long I know, but I honestly find it hard to believe it ever will in the gaming area.

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I've always been frustrated with gaming on Android. Even since Android 1.5 people have been saying "give it a little while and Android will be equal in terms of gaming" but it still hasn't happened. Not that long I know, but I honestly find it hard to believe it ever will in the gaming area.
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Now the Tegra II chipset is out, your going to see a massive jump in android gaming, plus android is the only mobile platform with a fully functional N64 emulator, and theres rumors the makers of NullDC are working on a dreamcast emulator for android
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Gaming has improved and quite a lot. Have you tried Gunbros, Fruit Ninja, Dungeon Defender, Mega Jump, Rocket Bunnies, Angry birds, Reckless racing.
And the futur is looking brighter with the Unity engin (IOS most famous game engine) being ported to android.

Well, indeed the processor architectures differ in android. But major game developers hsouldnt have an issue with building two games, they have enough people. ALso are the games so easily built on the iphone? because android is always the last platform that something gets released on...

[Q] xperia play not powerfull enough so which 1 best out of sony s1 and ps vita

xperia play not powerfull enough so which 1 best out of sony s1 and ps vita like many are trying to decide which has better processer which will be able to play games better have more emulators on fuction better what do you think

First of. Try to use some "." and "," in your text. It's really hard to read.
But to answer your question. My vote goes for Vita.

Yup, same goes here. Ps vita would be your choice. Having a quad core chipset and all.
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Yeah, Xplay can't compete with all those gaming console out there but remember,it is a phone. Meant to be a phone + game player. Not a dedicated gaming portable console. I already own xperia play,I'll think I'll pass Sony S2(S1 is the normal type of tablets) and opt for Vita instead. I'm a trophy whore on a Playstation 3 system.

The Vita wont have any emulators until it can be cracked to run homebrew.
I think this is unlikely to happen until at least another 1-2 years.

Wait a second. The Vita better than the S1? S1 better than Vita? They are two so different devices and can't be compared!
- The Vita has a great hardware, yes, but if you don't want a console it will be a bit dumb to buy it.
- The S1 is a tablet witch is focused to multiple purposes (thanks to Android and his apps) but is not as powerful as the Vita.
So just think if you just want a super-handheld console just for gaming or a portable mini-computer-pda wich allows to do more things.
PS: yes, the Vita will have apps too, but we all know that it won't have the big variety that an Android OS based device has.

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xperia play not powerfull enough so which 1 best out of sony s1 and ps vita like many are trying to decide which has better processer which will be able to play games better have more emulators on fuction better what do you think
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Why is it not powerful enough? It runs any PS emulated game and any Android game perfectly fine....

In terms of graphics processing, the vita is in a diffrent league to the Tablet S and Tablet P. They both use the NVIDA Tegra II chipset. Although the Tegra II is a dual core chipset. It struggles to surpass the Adreno 205 GPU in the xperia play!

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Why is it not powerful enough?
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I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.

TLRtheory said:
I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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Exactly. When I see posts like this I just don't get it, because if you play a game on it, and you play a game on something else, you're not going to see a difference! In fact it may even run better on the Play! And not one emulated game (that works) runs bad.

TLRtheory said:
I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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THANK YOU for clearing this misconception up!
Also Back on the Topic.
The main problem with Vita (as mentioned above) is that most of its potential will not be available to you until it is opened up (unlocked, cracked, jailbroken etc.).
You are likely going to be stuck only using what sony provides which will still be pretty darn good. Massive selection of psp games, ps1 classics, psn games... all at launch (since most of this stuff is already on psn).
Your best bet at emulating older systems up to the psx and playing mobile games is still the Xperia play. You get the convenience of it being a phone (among other things) as well as it being a great bang for your buck. This price just keeps dropping!
I'm sorry but any way you slice it the Xperia Play is an incredible value especially if you are a gamer. Just my opinion.

Let's see, what's better? A Phone, a Dualcore Tablet, or a dedicated gaming handheld that's not even out yet?
Apples, Oranges, and Bananas.

i will have all 3 lol, already have the play and tablet s.
X play for phone, emulators, jogging with runkeeper and music, control pad optimized games.
Tablet S for couch/coffee shop and in bed surfing/movie playback/reading and touch friendly games.
PS Vita as hardcore home console and portable games. Hoping its like the PSP go where you can hook it up to a tv and use dual shock 3 etc.

I had a go on the new sony tablet today in pcworld, very average to put it nicely!

jkr284 said:
Hoping its like the PSP go where you can hook it up to a tv and use dual shock 3 etc.
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I'm 100% positive the Vita will not have Dual Shock support or TV out.
I think they're trying to make it less a competitor for the PS3 by doing that, while also nullifying the argument of "If I was going to play at home I'd use a REAL console" that I would always hear from 360 fanboys

If only gaming isn't it obvious the PS Vita is the way to go?

Comparing mangos, papayas and kumquats.
Each of those devices is designed to cater to specific needs.
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Unless there will be a tablet with hardware gamepad don't get it for gaming.
on the other hand Onlive.com in us and onlive.co.uk in the uk is very promising alternative for not chasing new and latest hardware All the time. Once they (very soon promissed) launch android app any tablet could be connected with a regular console controller and you just play latest games from the cloud (or maybe your own pc using rdp or similar ) as long as you are online. Same is no problem with xplay. The point i,m making is that the specs of tablet without hardware gamepad are not so important in my opinion for gaming.
For offline hardcore gaming vita will be the best.
Hope it helps.
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ps3taker said:
Unless there will be a tablet with hardware gamepad don't get it for gaming.
on the other hand Onlive.com in us and onlive.co.uk in the uk is very promising alternative for not chasing new and latest hardware All the time. Once they (very soon promissed) launch android app any tablet could be connected with a regular console controller and you just play latest games from the cloud (or maybe your own pc using rdp or similar ) as long as you are online. Same is no problem with xplay. The point i,m making is that the specs of tablet without hardware gamepad are not so important in my opinion for gaming.
For offline hardcore gaming vita will be the best.
Hope it helps.
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OnLive launched there app for android ages ago with the HTC Flyer. At the moment it's just a viewer though and you can't actually play anything This version works fine with the play

I found the Xperia Play plenty powerful in my review with great battery life

Xperia Play Alternative? Not Even Close!

So i was just browsing around and apparently XOLO is releasing a new gaming phone. At first i was excited cause the name was "XOLO Play" and i don't know about you guys but that very sounded familiar. So yeah with my heart full of hope and my head full of dreams i clicked on the link, and thats when i got angry. NO PHYSICAL CONTROLS!!!!!!! Come on now, just cause you call it a gaming phone doesn't make it a gaming phone, and if you are going to call it a gaming (no physical controls) phone at least give is some out of this world sick specs. These don't even compare to the latest phones let alone make it a genuine gaming phone. Compare this to the HTC ONE, Sony Xperia Z, or the Samsung GS4 and it pretty much nothing.
Are you guys feeling the same way about these so called "Gaming Phones"?
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XPERIA PLAY 2 WHERE ARE YOU?

yeah it's a pity
i would use my old nokia and buy a gcw zero handheld instead of buying a high-tech phone when my play dies. just bought the play for emulation on the go.
it's my new n-gage (had both of them ) as it should be - just a lot more fragile

i'll buy that on first day , if that has physical gamepad.
but how ! how a phone can serve to gamers without pgysical game pad ????!!1
suerly , without gamepad , xperia ZU is much better that it ....
where is xoeria play 2

I think there will be no Xperia play. Sony decided to join that race for fast and thinner handset, there no room for chunky gaming phone for nerds
But seriously, if not Sony there will be other manufacturer. When you look how games develop on Google Play market. I know majority of people play Angry birds, Candy crush saga etc. so they don't need pad to play. But from other side you got games like MC, NOVA or even DH, that games played smearing your fingers on screen seems wrong and these games need proper gamepad.
Btw. found this on YT, interesting concept:

at the moment i don't think there is a profitable market for aaa console class games. since android seriously has to deal with piracy and every dev seem to push the price even lower. it came so far that newer games have to use in app purchases to get the development costs back in.
a market could be created however. when some bin manufactures decide to do real gaming devices like a psp vita.
or we need something like steam on android where the consumer base is already there (linux gaming is coming because of this - so will the 3d drivers for linux be improved over time because the market is there).
there are actually a few android gaming devices (especially in china). also the new handheld from nvidia is based on android. i wouldn't say there won't be any real gaming phone in the future.

I believe there will never be another phone with gaming controls built in. As far as buying a regular phone to game on, you can't beat an inexpensive Nexus 4. There's lots of them used up for sale. With a Snapdragon S4 Pro quadcore and 2Gb of ram, it really is a gaming powerhouse. You can't get anything close to that price.

bartmw said:
I think there will be no Xperia play. Sony decided to join that race for fast and thinner handset, there no room for chunky gaming phone for nerds
But seriously, if not Sony there will be other manufacturer. When you look how games develop on Google Play market. I know majority of people play Angry birds, Candy crush saga etc. so they don't need pad to play. But from other side you got games like MC, NOVA or even DH, that games played smearing your fingers on screen seems wrong and these games need proper gamepad.
Btw. found this on YT, interesting concept:
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konstruktor said:
at the moment i don't think there is a profitable market for aaa console class games. since android seriously has to deal with piracy and every dev seem to push the price even lower. it came so far that newer games have to use in app purchases to get the development costs back in.
a market could be created however. when some bin manufactures decide to do real gaming devices like a psp vita.
or we need something like steam on android where the consumer base is already there (linux gaming is coming because of this - so will the 3d drivers for linux be improved over time because the market is there).
there are actually a few android gaming devices (especially in china). also the new handheld from nvidia is based on android. i wouldn't say there won't be any real gaming phone in the future.
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Interesting video but a few thinks wrong no L/R triggers and no joystick/touchpads also its windows but still interesting.
Yeah there are ALOT of android gaming devices but we want a android gaming phone.
Also the xperia play 2 could be thin if if they wanted too. That would also make the phone slightly uncomfortable though, but thats the good thing about android customization and variety it fat phones just down right sicken you then go get a different phone, but i want gaming controls so a fat phone sounds fine to me.

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I'm so confused...
How can they label that a 'Gaming' smartphone? Specifications of other smartphones far surpass that of the XOLO Play and considering it lacks any form of hardware controller it is no different to every other phone that is released at the moment.
Not to mention the 12 core ULV GPU is seriously crap in the Tegra 3. It's not much better than the Adreno 205 in my opinion. CPU is great though...

They got peoples attention lol

I think i'll keep my money for something else

konstruktor said:
yeah it's a pity
i would use my old nokia and buy a gcw zero handheld instead of buying a high-tech phone when my play dies. just bought the play for emulation on the go.
it's my new n-gage (had both of them ) as it should be - just a lot more fragile
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Same here, had both N-gages as well.
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