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[Q] Reconsidering the Xoom, but would like some input.

First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.

lazy_rider said:
First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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1. I agree with the auto brightness. I turned this off and keep the brightness at 75%. I added Zagg invisibleshield and it has significantly reduced glare, fingerprints and smudges. I am happy.
2. I ordered this but it has not arrived yet: http://www.zoogue.com/shop/#xoom-zoogue-case-genius I am currently using the Moto gel case and it works for now.
3. I haven't had an issue with the charger. It charges very fast and the battery life is very good.

I love my xoom, though i don't see a lot of resolution for you on these issues.
1. I love the display, agreed it's hard to see in bright light (but this to me is normal).
2. I like the portfolio case and use it constantly.
3. For me the lack of usb chargning is fine, as the default charger charges so fast and my battary lasts me all day. I can charge from empty to full in less then two hours and get at least a good 12 hour day of off again on again usage.
Hope this helps.

same here.
i turned of auto brightness and the screen is great for me now.
haven't put a case on it (waiting for a good one to come out).
i left the shipping cover plastic on the screen until i decide on what screen protector i am going to use.
no usb charging was not a deal breaker for me as it has been noted before that the charge time is fast and the use time is high.

1. I use mine on a bus and outside and haven't really had a problem with brightness, the glare is a killer though. Inside, at night when using the kindle app, I'd like to turn down the brightness. I picked up the Steinheil screen protectors (matte) and it really cut down on the fingerprint smudges and glare. Yea, the screen isn't as crisp as without the protector, but the smudges ruined it anyway. I took auto brightness off but keep the display turned down.
2. I haven't seen any third party case even for the ipad that I really like. The portfolio from Motorola is the best I've seen so far and I'm really disappointed. It needs to have a typing position, maybe 20-30% incline.
3. I would have liked a mini usb charger. I'll probably get a second one but by charging it at night I have more than enough juice to get through a day.
Motorola had a $100 off coupon floating around and the wifi models are being released at the end of this month which should be less expensive.

keitht said:
1. I agree with the auto brightness. I turned this off and keep the brightness at 75%. I added Zagg invisibleshield and it has significantly reduced glare, fingerprints and smudges. I am happy.
2. I ordered this but it has not arrived yet: http://www.zoogue.com/shop/#xoom-zoogue-case-genius I am currently using the Moto gel case and it works for now.
3. I haven't had an issue with the charger. It charges very fast and the battery life is very good.
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I have a Zoogue iPad case and have used it for the past 8 months. It is amazing and has held up perfectly. It is an awesome case especially if you intend to watch a fair bit of videos with your tablet. Maybe not the prettiest case around, but it protects the hell out of the tablet and not only allows you any angle of incline, but also a very sturdy base so that it wont go tipping over if you tap the tablet too hard.

I agree with most people here.
1. Forget the auto brightness. It's useless.
2. I really want the zoogue case, let me know how it is. I'm ok with the portfolio case. It's definitely grown on me. I have two big issues with it though: lack of a 30-degree angle for tabletop use, but i've gotten used to the "low angle", and no charging while closed. someone in the accessories forum suggested punching a hole with a punch meant for making holes in a belt and it worked like a charm (hint: try asking your dry cleaner/alternation shop if you can use theirs, that way I didn't have to buy one). Looks like it almost was meant to be there.
3. I would have liked the 'option' of a mirco usb charger, but honestly, I use it every day at work unplug in the morning, use at home after dinner and plug in at night, and have never had an issue. I even went away for the weekend (sat morn to sunday night) and brought my charger, but i never charged it. I dont see it as an issue.

lazy_rider said:
First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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1 - I operate my device on auto brightness pretty much all the time, the only exception to this is when QuickPic fires up because it ramps it to 100%. I have found that in most normal operating environments I can see the screen perfectly. I am not outdoors with it very often but I know what you are talking about because it is difficult to see under direct or even semi direct sunlight.
2 - I'm going to buy a gel case right now, I already own the protective case. I want to try them both and figure that I'll use the Gel case around the house and the protective case out at work.
3 - There is a car charger, but I am unaware of a more compact Xoom charger.

Thanks to everyone who has commented so far. I'm leaning strongly towards giving the Xoom another shot, although I might wait until they start shipping with 4G, so I don't have to send it back to Moto for a week for the upgrade.

lazy_rider said:
1. I didn't like the display. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
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I'm still not over the display quality. This is one of the main factors why I'm weighing to sell the xoom and get another honeycomb tablet in the future.
lazy_rider said:
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
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Couldn't say as I've never used it before.
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3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
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I found the xoom's ability to charge quickly makes up for the lack of usb charging. additionally, when in a car traveling long distances, i can hook up the charger to a power generator i bought for the car that easily hooks up to the lighter port.
I'm going to wait it out, and try and get the samsung tablet 10.1 coming out in about a month.

I too use auto brightness all the time, but maybe I live in a dark existence.
I use the gel case all the time, and no screen protector. When I take it with me, its in my protective net book sleeve in my backpack so I'm not really worried about the screen. If I start to hear complaints here about screen issues (other than the gym bag guy) I may seek better protection.
I don't find the charging to be an issue as the battery lasts a long time. I think the car charger (<$30) is a good idea if you are gonna be in the car for even 15 minutes or so. If you can hook up the standard dock someplace in your car you can charge it and play audio from itnto the aux port on your stereo if you have one...
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lazy_rider said:
Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
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Very much so; it charges it so fast and the battery life is so good I just don't worry about it any more. I might get a car charger for the times I can't get home in time, once they get 2nd-sourced (to save money) but so far, so good.

I suffer under no delusions that a device like this will be viewable in direct lighting (including sunlight). I pretty much assumed going in that I'd still be using my classic Nook with e-ink for reading outside...

i bought one and I returned it because of the same issues. Then I bought my wife an I pad 2 and i tested it for a few day and I
notice the xoom is so fast and you not handcuffed to apple products that I went and bought the xoom again and this time I'm keeping it.

To keep or not to keep... that's the question!

I now have both NST and NST with Glowlight. I want to just keep one of them and sell the other one. Now, as an absolute newcomer here, I'd like to know your thoughts about which one to keep is better for me for future. In terms of hacks and rooting? are all hacks that are for NST available for NST with Glowlight? Will the Glowlight screen break FOR SURE? <- so many negative comments! If it breaks I'd rather keep the simple NST!
P.S. I am a very very careful person when it comes to electronic devices I own.

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I now have both NST and NST with Glowlight. I want to just keep one of them and sell the other one. Now, as an absolute newcomer here, I'd like to know your thoughts about which one to keep is better for me for future. In terms of hacks and rooting? are all hacks that are for NST available for NST with Glowlight? Will the Glowlight screen break FOR SURE? <- so many negative comments! If it breaks I'd rather keep the simple NST!
P.S. I am a very very careful person when it comes to electronic devices I own.
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How much the NST cost you? < £30? NSTG <£50 or £70? The light layer on NSTG glow is fragile. If you damage it you might as well not bother using the glow bit and it becomes another NST.
NSTG as a book reader is much more useful to me as I have to have lights quite high to make NST readable. My Glow however does stay at home, I use my phone for reading on the go.
Personally I am stocking up on NSTs. I don't believe B&N are going to be in business that much longer. Their books are more expensive than amazon who already is the market leader. They are not going to make enough money long term.
NST are the cheapest android device with exceptional battery life. I have so many uses in mind other than reading books and of for referring to Aard (One reason I did not think of other day to have large sdcard in NST).
Some examples being:
Droidmote client. Multitouch mouse for any android system that does not have touchscreen e.g. Ouya/Rikomagic sticks. Also supports Windows/linux.
Front end for home automation/Media remote.
Tailing (Displaying) my kernel messages from my linux box.
rs232 / ssh client when working on Network devices which I do a lot. Trying to get hold of a very low power rs232 adapter that hopefully NST can power directly.

Crispy3000 said:
How much the NST cost you? < £30? NSTG <£50 or £70? The light layer on NSTG glow is fragile. If you damage it you might as well not bother using the glow bit and it becomes another NST.
NSTG as a book reader is much more useful to me as I have to have lights quite high to make NST readable. My Glow however does stay at home, I use my phone for reading on the go.
Personally I am stocking up on NSTs. I don't believe B&N are going to be in business that much longer. Their books are more expensive than amazon who already is the market leader. They are not going to make enough money long term.
NST are the cheapest android device with exceptional battery life. I have so many uses in mind other than reading books and of for referring to Aard (One reason I did not think of other day to have large sdcard in NST).
Some examples being:
Droidmote client. Multitouch mouse for any android system that does not have touchscreen e.g. Ouya/Rikomagic sticks. Also supports Windows/linux.
Front end for home automation/Media remote.
Tailing (Displaying) my kernel messages from my linux box.
rs232 / ssh client when working on Network devices which I do a lot. Trying to get hold of a very low power rs232 adapter that hopefully NST can power directly.
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Thanks for the reply Crispy.
I have never seen a product with so many negative reviews even on their own website!!! See for yourself: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-simple-touch-with-glowlight-barnes-noble/1108046469 That's horrible!
Only thing I am worried is after the cracks, even when the glowlight is off, it wouldn't be as readable as Nook ST without Glowlight!!! ?

Well, I got it for 65$ and I'm lowering my expectation on Glowlight, maximum 2 weeks of enjoying before it breaks!
Plus, looking at how quiescent the Developer's forum has become recently, I believe you're right... Nook (if not B&N as a whole) is having a slow death, unfortunately.
P.S. I wonder if there is anything, we as customers, can do on our NSTwG that can avoid the cracks? Like any custom made hacks, tips and modifications? I was reading somewhere and many of the knick white spots are the result of the gap between actual e-Ink and the light glass, not sure if that makes sense, as I have yet to receive mine in post!!!

idoit said:
Well, I got it for 65$ and I'm lowering my expectation on Glowlight, maximum 2 weeks of enjoying before it breaks!
Plus, looking at how quiescent the Developer's forum has become recently, I believe you're right... Nook (if not B&N as a whole) is having a slow death, unfortunately.
P.S. I wonder if there is anything, we as customers, can do on our NSTwG that can avoid the cracks? Like any custom made hacks, tips and modifications? I was reading somewhere and many of the knick white spots are the result of the gap between actual e-Ink and the light glass, not sure if that makes sense, as I have yet to receive mine in post!!!
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I dont think they are quite that fragile it would nof be cost effective to produce.
They glowlight works by light at top using natural properties of the glass to light the screen. So if u get any stress points ie pits on the glass u will get bright spots. As as u dont thump screen, twist/bend, drop keyz on it from great height then it will b fine. Buy on credit card if u wonder if y9ur seller will not honour warrenty.
Sorry for typos using android tab crappy keyboard

Glowlight bust

There's a huge hole in the layer that distributes the light on the front, rendering the device almost unusable. The screen is too dark to use without the light for the most part, so there's no point owning this device anymore.
Is there anything I can do? I can't really afford to replace this device and it's the only way I can read books, as I'm never able to get comfortable with a lighting source. Can I send it somewhere for repair?

Dollywitch said:
There's a huge hole in the layer that distributes the light on the front, rendering the device almost unusable. The screen is too dark to use without the light for the most part, so there's no point owning this device anymore.
Is there anything I can do? I can't really afford to replace this device and it's the only way I can read books, as I'm never able to get comfortable with a lighting source. Can I send it somewhere for repair?
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You can buy glowlight e-Ink for your Nook from eBay and replace it yourself, for instance look here: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Original-6-Inch-Display-For-Nook-Simple-Touch-With-GlowLight-Screen-Replacement-/231041616939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35cb274c2b&_uhb=1
You can also just go and buy a second hand NSTwG but depending on your luck, same thing might or might not happen. I have my NSTwG and I care for it, so far no major thing has happened to it.
Best device for reading in my opinion is Kindle Keyboard with lighted case (I know you said you don't want external light but just sayin')

idoit said:
You can also just go and buy a second hand NSTwG but depending on your luck, same thing might or might not happen. I have my NSTwG and I care for it, so far no major thing has happened to it.
Best device for reading in my opinion is Kindle Keyboard with lighted case (I know you said you don't want external light but just sayin')
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Should I just get an external light for my Nook? What to get?

Dollywitch said:
Should I just get an external light for my Nook? What to get?
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As I said, I have not had Nook without Glowlight.
You can buy this lighted cover, but I don't have first hand experience with it:
http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Lighted-Leather-Zing-Screen/dp/B005E1KH08/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt
Getting NSTwG is risky, many people have reported it to break within months. Mine has been ok so far!!! I'm not very careful with it though, I treat it like I treat my K3, and I have found it to be a very good reliable reader. Now, again, in my opinion, the best eReader so far is simple rock solid Kindle Keyboard. I won't trade it with newer Kindles or Nooks for reading. I got Nook just to play with Android stuff, but still K3 remains my main eReader. The combination of NSTwG + K3 has worked best for me. I carry both of them with me wherever I go, one for casual or night reading (NSTwG), the other for serious reading (K3).
It's your decision... Good luck.

Is someone looking for a rooted Nook Simple Touch Glowlight?

Hey XDA :good::laugh:
I found myself having less and less time to read and caught myself abandoning my Nook Simple Touch Glowlight lately.
My job requires me to read technical non-fiction books all day long and we got access to the PDFs. I mainly used my Nook to read epubs and news feeds, which nowadays (sadly) rarely happens. :angel:
I thought it might be a good idea to ask here, as a lot of like-minded Nook users are around. And maybe someone is looking for a solid device.
The software version is 1.2.0, model number BNRV350. It is rooted and works flawless.
It is in super mint condition, as I treat my technology very well.
I've got all the accessories, booklets and the original packaging.
Just shoot me a direct message or ask in this thread.
I guess we'll figure out the cheapest way for shipment and come to an agreement regarding the price.
I hope I can find my Nook a good new home
Cheers

With what rooting package is this device rooted?
Is this device equipped with Google apps?
What is the physical condition of this device?

I rooted it over a year ago...I think I used touchnooter.
Is there a way to quickly check?
Yes Goole apps worked fine...I actually used it for my calendar an gmail from time to time.
And had Evernote, Dropbox, Dropsync and Read it Later installed, along with a bunch of reader apps (especially the Kindle app).
The condition is mint, no wear worth mentioning.

I don't think there is, but that's alright.
Just to make sure, the screen is 100% intact, right? Because a lot of Glows have had screen problems.

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I don't think there is, but that's alright.
Just to make sure, the screen is 100% intact, right? Because a lot of Glows have had screen problems.
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What's exactly the issue?
I haven't noticed anything, so I guess it's fine.
I managed to find some old photos I took during the rooting process (I think I already knew that I would forget :angel.
I used "GabrialDestruir's Touch and Glow Nooter CWM", hence CWM 5.0.2.7 is running.

The known issue that is specific to NSTwG is "screen tear". It is light leakage through scratches or torn gaps in light dispersing layer. It looks like this: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rCLwlgMFtfY/U-dJe53T9zI/AAAAAAAAFcc/GKvfiL2P_lk/s800/IMGP9221.JPG or http://the-digital-reader.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/broken-nooklit-2-500x500.jpg . In most cases it is almost invisible with light turned off, but some devices I've seen had very annoying cracks, that made reading unpleasant. This is how affected device looks like with glowlight off and on - link to the gallery: https://picasaweb.google.com/110611895739392246996/NookSTGlowlight?authkey=Gv1sRgCK-H4-ua55mcKg# .

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The known issue that is specific to NSTwG is "screen tear". It is light leakage through scratches or torn gaps in light dispersing layer. It looks like this: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rCLwlgMFtfY/U-dJe53T9zI/AAAAAAAAFcc/GKvfiL2P_lk/s800/IMGP9221.JPG or http://the-digital-reader.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/broken-nooklit-2-500x500.jpg . In most cases it is almost invisible with light turned off, but some devices I've seen had very annoying cracks, that made reading unpleasant. This is how affected device looks like with glowlight off and on - link to the gallery: https://picasaweb.google.com/110611895739392246996/NookSTGlowlight?authkey=Gv1sRgCK-H4-ua55mcKg# .
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Thank you so much :good:
Those illuminated eInk readers all use a diffusion layer on top of the actual screen. Those teared spots look a lot like they collapsed under punctual pressure, for example when carrying the device in a bag carelessly.
My device is fine

Yes, the idea is common, but it seems that in NSTwG B&N have used material more susceptible to damage than its competitors.
That kind of damage may have a few different causes. You can choose between scratching, pressing or bending the device. That last option will cause serious, long cracks and/or slight wrinkles. It looks like this (and that's the one annoying example I mentioned in the previous post): https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FXi1QOXgdX0/U-n-Jgsti-I/AAAAAAAAFd0/Qz_Tg8wDPU0/s900/IMG_0765.JPG and https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jRdMBOMTBNc/U-n-Jk4CARI/AAAAAAAAFd4/hRfIayia6NU/s900/IMG_0766.JPG . This is my backup one, and one day I may downgrade it to Nook Simple Touch without Glowlight by removing the dispersion layer. It is possible, and I accidentally did it a bit already in another unit when I tried to separate the bezel from the screen assembly.

Okay, I guess the Nook has to stay in my house, as the girlfriend recently discovered Pocket.
I didn't know...she might ditch her kindle paperwhite in favor for my nook.
She caught me fiddling around with it again and now can't let go of it.
I didn't even know she was using Pocket...and by far not that she had collected slightly over 1000 articles there. (Holy cow!)

Hello~ Just returned the OP5 and pre-ordered the U11 Solar Red!

Just returned the OP5, it's nice and all but I got a weird issue with the Wifi hotspot, which is a deal breaker for me.
Then saw the U11 Solar Red and also $50 discount going on, so pull the trigger... I have read good thing about U11's battery life and camera, and I am eager to try out the Edge Sense feature. I want a quick way to launch the camera and am used to Motorola's quick capture (double-twist to launch camera) feature. I think Nougat's double-press power to launch camera is not fast enough. I always have to struggle to reach the power button! So, hopefully Edge sense would be as quick as Motorola's quick capture.
The missing of the 3.5 audio jack is a small issue, I want to be able to charge and listen to radio at bed time. There should be adapter out there to use the port for both at the same time?
Also, saw the screen is polarized, so with polarized sunglasses and phone in landscape mode, won't be able to see anything. That reminds me of my Nexus 5... A little inconvenience...
The memory size (4GB) is half of OP5's 8GB, do you think long term wise it would be an issue - with new updates and stuff, the OS and apps being more memory hungry by the days...
Anyway, really excited now.

My U11 does not react to polarized sunglasses in either orientation, which surprises me greatly. I was extremely happy to find this because I am outside with sunglasses on constantly. Outdoor visibility with and without glasses is a very important factor to me and I can count on one hand or less the other devices out of the 30 or so I have used that were substantially better than this.

solver404 said:
My U11 does not react to polarized sunglasses in either orientation, which surprises me greatly.
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Although i have read different experience same for me. Tried with a Rayban from a collegue and it still worked fine. But maybe there are more panels out there (like with the 10)?
Memory: On the long term maybe it will have to reload some apps (which is pretty fast). The question is also how many years you want to use it and if you are a heavy multitasker. So decide yourself if that might be a problem. Today i would see it on par with other flagships. The memory wouldnt be a point to buy the OP5 for me.

Flynnchen82 said:
Although i have read different experience same for me. Tried with a Rayban from a collegue and it still worked fine. But maybe there are more panels out there (like with the 10)?
Memory: On the long term maybe it will have to reload some apps (which is pretty fast). The question is also how many years you want to use it and if you are a heavy multitasker. So decide yourself if that might be a problem. Today i would see it on par with other flagships. The memory wouldnt be a point to buy the OP5 for me.
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That would be nice if it's not a problem! I still remembered I got puzzled when I was using my N5 to take a video and the screen appeared to go blank.

Great choice, you're gonna love the solar red U11.
As of now, there's no adaptor available which supports charging and audio output at the same time. This is because the adaptor which the U11 uses actually has a DAC and not just a signal converter. I'm ok with that since it is giving good audio quality, and charging is really fast.
Edge sense is awesome. To me, the biggest benefit comes with being able to squeeze to snap, no need to stretch for the on screen or volume shutter button. Just one thing to note, the camera does have a delay of about 0.5secs after you squeeze to prevent movement from the squeeze itself.
The screen does turn a little darker in landscape mode, but not totally black, so you should be able work with it with polarized glasses on.

Conan1986 said:
Great choice, you're gonna love the solar red U11.
As of now, there's no adaptor available which supports charging and audio output at the same time. This is because the adaptor which the U11 uses actually has a DAC and not just a signal converter. I'm ok with that since it is giving good audio quality, and charging is really fast.
Edge sense is awesome. To me, the biggest benefit comes with being able to squeeze to snap, no need to stretch for the on screen or volume shutter button. Just one thing to note, the camera does have a delay of about 0.5secs after you squeeze to prevent movement from the squeeze itself.
The screen does turn a little darker in landscape mode, but not totally black, so you should be able work with it with polarized glasses on.
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Unfortunately I was told by support that it won't ship until 2nd week of July and I don't wanna wait, so I go ahead to order the silver one and cancel the red one. I want to try the phone and see if I wanna keep it, if so, I may still return the silver and then get the red one... The reason I do all this is because I will be out of country for the whole of August, so I want to try out the phone asap.

namartlu said:
Unfortunately I was told by support that it won't ship until 2nd week of July and I don't wanna wait, so I go ahead to order the silver one and cancel the red one. I want to try the phone and see if I wanna keep it, if so, I may still return the silver and then get the red one... The reason I do all this is because I will be out of country for the whole of August, so I want to try out the phone asap.
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Yea, the red version is still a "pre-order" so there's a risk of being delayed anyway. I personally like the silver one very much as it's actually light blue most of the time. Red will be outstanding in a way that it will be screaming out for attention, which doesn't suit everybody's taste. Do update after having experienced the phone

Turned out they didn't cancel my solar red order, well I'll leave it like that, see which color I like and return the other one.

amazon has it in stock now, Just gotta decide on ditching my exynos gs8+

htc fan89 said:
amazon has it in stock now, Just gotta decide on ditching my exynos gs8+
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Full price though... no discount on Amazon, right?

namartlu said:
Full price though... no discount on Amazon, right?
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Yeah and if I recall correctly Amazon's phone return/exchange policy is trash... I'd get it direct
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altimax98 said:
Yeah and if I recall correctly Amazon's phone return/exchange policy is trash... I'd get it direct
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what's wrong with amazon's policy, there's 30 day return period.

htc fan89 said:
what's wrong with amazon's policy, there's 30 day return period.
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Yah... that's what I think...