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sdk for non intel mac

i went to finally get the sdk for my imac,then i realized its only available for intel based macs.is there anything i can do

boydroid said:
i went to finally get the sdk for my imac,then i realized its only available for intel based macs.is there anything i can do
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Join up with the year 2000.

That MAC has been good to me so not gonna happen...how about a answer that might actually help
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boydroid said:
That MAC has been good to me so not gonna happen...how about a answer that might actually help
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ok first of all, why are you talking about a media access control? it's not relevant to this discussion about macs. second, you need to get a new mac. the mac minis are great and are only about 600 bucks. you have an incompatible computer. incompatible computer is incompatible.

boydroid said:
That MAC has been good to me so not gonna happen...how about a answer that might actually help
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That is the ONLY answer that's gonna help you.
Unless you manage to get Google to write an SDK for PPC.

If you figger out how to install Linux on your system, it would work that way.

illogic6 said:
If you figger out how to install Linux on your system, it would work that way.
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So, it wouldn't.
The Linux SDK is still x86 only.

Yet again Apple efs its customer base
You could possibly get away with some kind of Virtual Machine, but I have a feeling vbox won't run on your architecture either.
And $600 is WAY to much to pay for a Mini.
Hell buy a $200 netbook and install Ubuntu with a Mac theme - you can't tell a difference other than the awesome that is radiated from a Linux machine VS a mac - unless you are just a linux guy and know how it works...then you could tell a difference....ok so there are some differences...but buy a white HP netbook and slap one of those Apple stickers they give you with an IPod on it...then you cant tell a difference....well you still could but its getting arguable then.
This is why the only apple product I will ever own is my 160gig Ipod classic - and when it dies Ill just build a new EEE PC for my car.

only reason i use a mac is because i need software such as final cut pro and aperture which are not found on windows or linux.

There's no way to use the SDK on a PPC Mac without reengineering the whole thing from scratch. The PPC is a big-endian processor, and x86 is little-endian, so your byte-ordering and structure sizes are different. If you've ever delved into cross-platform compiling (OpenWRT is a good example), you know that's its a major PITA. I've adapted a few small pieces of C code to successfully compile on PPC, and its no joy.
You're going to be SOOL on the virtualization front as well. There was a version of VirtualPC years ago that performed software x86 emulation on the PPC platform, but performance was abysmal even running Win98 on my Dual G5. I doubt that a modern Windows OS would even run at all. None of the current virtualization products will run on the PPC platform, as they all tie in to hardware virtualization support at some level (processor extensions or otherwise).
I truly feel your pain in this situation. I have a Dual G5 Power Mac that's still humming along happy as can be, but I can't run any current software on it. My iBook G4 isn't quite as happy these days, but is still 100% functional. Next to my G5, I have a cheapo Dell that I finally broke down and bought to power-up when I need to run x86 stuff. I recently picked up a used MacBook Pro, and WOW I can't believe what I was missing out on. The performance is night and day better than my G5, and all current software runs on it beautifully. With VMware Fusion installed, it can do anything I need. I hate to say it, but you need to upgrade.

well i got my answer,i guess a new mac purchase is a must...i have never used a windows pc so definately not going that route,question can i buy a pc with linux preinstalled on it...if that was possible i would like to learn to use it

boydroid said:
well i got my answer,i guess a new mac purchase is a must...i have never used a windows pc so definately not going that route,question can i buy a pc with linux preinstalled on it...if that was possible i would like to learn to use it
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There are some sites that sell computers with Linux pre-installed.
Here's one:
http://linuxpreloaded.com/

abcdfv said:
There are some sites that sell computers with Linux pre-installed.
Here's one:
http://linuxpreloaded.com/
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thanks,ill start looking

boydroid said:
thanks,ill start looking
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Probably what you're gonna want to do first is ask yourself:
"What do I use my computer for"
There are some Linux distributions specifically designed to work as media servers, as video/image manipulation stations, and basically just about any specialization you can imagine.
If you're answer is
"I just want to use it"
Chances are Ubuntu or Mint is the way to go.
If your answer is
"MUST HAVE THE FASTEST NO MATTER WHAT"
A Gentoo based distro is the way to go.

Mac G5 as Android dev platform?

I have acquired an old mac G5 (1.8ghz Power PC (not x86) processor/512) which is running an old version of OS X. I was planning to either install eclipse on OS X or replace the OS with ubuntu and install eclipse on that.
Are there going to be any problems? Will drivers (for my nexus one) be compatible?

The PowerPC might be your only problem, but I suggest you try it.
However, I do believe that the Android SDK isn't available for anything else than the x86 platform.
Tell us how i goes. I might do the same and make my new iMac a cleaner machine.

I had one of those and put MAC OSX on it... The thing ran like a slug even after upgrading the ram to 512MB, Threw in a 80GB hard drive and sold it for $80 just to get rid of it... mine wasn't a G5 though it was one of those bubble looking ones were everything was built in to the CRT.

enp82003 said:
I had one of those and put MAC OSX on it... The thing ran like a slug even after upgrading the ram to 512MB, Threw in a 80GB hard drive and sold it for $80 just to get rid of it... mine wasn't a G5 though it was one of those bubble looking ones were everything was built in to the CRT.
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That sounds like a G3 iMac which is nowhere near a G5
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If the SDK can run on G5 and not only on x86 you should try it. I use an MSI Wind U100 (1.6 GHz processor & 1 GB RAM) and it works fine. I tried it with 512 MB RAM too, and I haven't got any problem, expect I had to wait about 10 mins to start the emulator, but if you use your Nexus One as DevPhone you won't need it. I don't know if the drivers work on OS X, but if you install ubuntu you won't have problems.

What about Ubuntu for Android

All the threads I read are for Ubuntu for phone, anyone interested about Ubuntu for android? I'll give a try to Ubuntu for phone, but I'm really happy with what android offers... but now I think Ubuntu for android is really cool... Is like to have best OS for the phone, and at the same time best OS at all times on the phone.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android

There is definitely some huge potential with this idea although it is not the first time we have seen this, Motorola attempted something similar but I always felt as though the phones were not ready yet and the desktop environment was not only slow but lacked any compatibility. If Ubuntu runs well on an android phone as a desktop I will gladly buy into it and probably use it to replace my laptop and maybe someday my desktop especially now that Steam is coming to Ubuntu. This is the next logical step in the computing world as our phones become increasingly more powerful and have begun to rival laptops, I just hope Ubuntu is able to execute it well.

micrors4 said:
There is definitely some huge potential with this idea although it is not the first time we have seen this, Motorola attempted something similar but I always felt as though the phones were not ready yet and the desktop environment was not only slow but lacked any compatibility. If Ubuntu runs well on an android phone as a desktop I will gladly buy into it and probably use it to replace my laptop and maybe someday my desktop especially now that Steam is coming to Ubuntu. This is the next logical step in the computing world as our phones become increasingly more powerful and have begun to rival laptops, I just hope Ubuntu is able to execute it well.
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Great point and there's so much more to this if we think about it. Enterprise is evolving rather interestingly into mobility served by very centralized environments. BYOD is becoming a very prevalent argument in the professional workplace.
Until recently, management of that extremely mobile environment consisted of attempts at integrating BlackBerry, iOS, and Android into an arena where Microsoft is the 500 pound gorilla. From a business continuity stance, BlackBerry has been the safest and more secure (not capable) solution out there. Who knows how much longer RIM will be around. Microsoft just introduced that gorilla's corn-fed son named Windows 8.
Most businesses will put a W8 transition off for some time due to it's very "touchy" differences. The funny part being that they ask about integrating Android tablets or iPads as a 3 year plan. Once the hype settles, the realization of a full OS with REAL management possibilities on a mobile device will become rather ideal to CIO's and IT Admins looking to move to that step and beyond with the idea of BYOD as a viable/more secure option, now.
Enter Ubuntu. How many businesses are running iOS or Android in their data center? These are catered to the consumer segment where the perpetual "duking out" between Mac and Google has completely squashed BlackBerry to a point that 10th graders probably have no idea what a bunch of "old fogey" college juniors poke fun at while bragging about being a developer because they flashed CM10 via ROM Manager last week.
Ubuntu's focus should be on Windows! The ability to offer a rivaling suite edges both Google and Mac further away from the complete enterprise solution discussion and positions Canonical right next to Microsoft. . . without all the crazy licensing!!!
All in all, the final words in my mind are: Prime Opportunity
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I've seen sites report that its still being developed along side Ubuntu phone, probably an easy way to convert android users over.

Midnitte said:
I've seen sites report that its still being developed along side Ubuntu phone, probably an easy way to convert android users over.
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ugh. . . can't believe I missed the distinction between the two offerings. I was leaning more toward the "Ubuntu for phone" development.
Regardless, I think this is a great step and you're probably right, Midnitte. I'm just waiting for someone to get it running on my old HeroC!!!
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There is definitely some huge potential with this idea although it is not the first time we have seen this, Motorola attempted something similar but I always felt as though the phones were not ready yet and the desktop environment was not only slow but lacked any compatibility. If Ubuntu runs well on an android phone as a desktop I will gladly buy into it and probably use it to replace my laptop and maybe someday my desktop especially now that Steam is coming to Ubuntu. This is the next logical step in the computing world as our phones become increasingly more powerful and have begun to rival laptops, I just hope Ubuntu is able to execute it well.
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Clearly you haven't seen the video of the guy from canonical showing off Ubuntu for android using a 1ghz phone from a year or two ago. It was running perfectly as Ubuntu when docked, and when he undocked, BAM. Android again. I'll see if I can find the vid again
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EDIT: here is the link. Not exactly the one I was looking for, but it works. It is a Motorola atrix 2, which is fairly old, and probably the exact phone you said " wasn't ready"
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY&desktop_uri=/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY

Why can't you use unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to load a linux distro onto your phone.
I did that before on my N9 with the mex distro. You just change the boot menu on the pc that you are going to hook up to so that it looks at the USB first for an OS before the hard disk. If I didn't want to run it I would wait until after the computer started to hook it up. The only thing is you have to remember to wait until after you start the computer if you don't want to run it and I kept habitually not waiting and accidentally starting the distro off of the phone and the other thing is you have to keep track of all the files and folders it installs on your phone so that if you decide to erase it you know what files and folders to erase and don't jack your phone up.
There is also Lili http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ which has "persistence" which means you can install/uninstall apps and add/delete data etc. and I see they have kubuntu on there and even meego 1.2.

aironeous said:
Why can't you use unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to load a linux distro onto your phone.
I did that before on my N9 with the mex distro. You just change the boot menu on the pc that you are going to hook up to so that it looks at the USB first for an OS before the hard disk. If I didn't want to run it I would wait until after the computer started to hook it up. The only thing is you have to remember to wait until after you start the computer if you don't want to run it and I kept habitually not waiting and accidentally starting the distro off of the phone and the other thing is you have to keep track of all the files and folders it installs on your phone so that if you decide to erase it you know what files and folders to erase and don't jack your phone up.
There is also Lili http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ which has "persistence" which means you can install/uninstall apps and add/delete data etc. and I see they have kubuntu on there and even meego 1.2.
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Because phones don't allow booting from media (except for special cases like the nook color, et al).

aironeous said:
Why can't you use unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to load a linux distro onto your phone.
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As long the bios on the target system recognizes the SD card through the usb attached phone in the boot menu..

reply 1^ Wait what? Are we on the same page here? Do you or don't you want to hook your phone up to a PC and make it boot up off of ubuntu that is on your phone? I was just doing that for about a month on my N9. Lili takes it even a step further and lets you install and uninstall apps and data that persist and also gives you virtualbox thrown in.
Reply 2^ What? That was too technical for me
Wait a second, are we talking about the same thing here? I'm talking about putting ubuntu on your phone and then you walk over to a PC and plug your phone in via usb and start the computer and it runs ubuntu from your phone. When you hook it up right after you turn the PC on pick mass storage mode when it pops up on your phone. Worked for me for a long time. I was walking around with mex 64 bit (ubuntu with 7 desktops to choose from) on my N9 and I would accidentally plug it into 32 bit computers at school (forgetting i had ubuntu 64 on my phone) before I turned them on and they would try to boot into mex 64 bit until i realized i was habitually plugging my phone into pc's before turning it on.

I don't understand what you guys are saying, I was just running around 2 months ago with 64bit ubuntu on my Nokia N9 plugging it into computers and making them boot up linux 64 bit from my N9 (provided the computer was a 64 bit and I went into the boot menu and changed it to look at the usb for an OS first).
You seem to not believe it for some reason. I'd make a video and put it up on youtube for you but I only have my N9 for video. I can't video my N9 with my N9.
I'm not that smart and I'm not that linux experienced at all but all you have to do is use unetbootin to install a linux distro (an iso image that you download, go ahead and pick any one you want) on to your phone in mass storage mode. Then just go into the boot menu of the PC you are targetting when you start it up and change the bootup priority to USB first.
Done.

I hear what you're saying; essentially Ubuntu on a stick... that's not what I thought Ubuntu for Android is/was supposed to be, though--from what I understood.
I had thought that Ubuntu for Android was supposed to be similar to the Ubuntu for phones experience, only with Android as the "desktop" experience on the handset. The phone is running Ubuntu 24/7, but when in the dock--think glorified KVM switch--you have full access to Ubuntu--using your phone as the source for the processing power, not just OS and file storage; unplug from the dock, and your handset reverts back to a "normal" Android handset...
...in your "on a stick" method, a PC is doing all the work, and the phone is just storage; the other way is equivocal to plugging a keyboard and monitor directly into the phone, and using it as the computer...
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That's not what I understood it to be. I thought it was just Lili since Lili has persistence plus a virtualbox so you can just load it without rebboting via a virtualbox.
Your phone is no different from a thumb drive in mass storage mode so you can load any linux distro on it and change the target pc boot priority to USB first.

I just checked the specs on the Raspberry Pi operating system. If that little computer can do all sorts of cool things with half the specs of a modern smart phone I'm sure the Ubuntu Devs will make the Ubuntu for Android wicked cool! Can't wait!
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Cl3Kener said:
I just checked the specs on the Raspberry Pi operating system. If that little computer can do all sorts of cool things with half the specs of a modern smart phone I'm sure the Ubuntu Devs will make the Ubuntu for Android wicked cool! Can't wait!
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It's not particularly good for running GUI stuff though.
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tr4656 said:
It's not particularly good for running GUI stuff though.
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Good point! I didn't think about that being an issue but it makes sense.
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It's not particularly good for running GUI stuff though.
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As an RPI owner, I can honestly say it isn't much of a desktop. It's ideal for a home media server, but it needs MUCH more RAM. 512MB still isn't cutting it. Honestly, mine is collecting dust.
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If it's usb storage, and its recognised by the pc without drivers then yes you can boot ubuntu from it.
Ubuntu for android is about running android on your device, then plugging your device into a dock that has a screen / keyboard / mouse and using ubuntu. Android would still bye running in the background to receive calls and stuff.
Ubuntu for phones is a phone running ubuntu, you make calls and texts from within ubuntu.
Hope this helps clear it up, please correct me if I'm mistaken :]
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Ubuntu Phone for the HTC HD2

Does anyone know whether it will be possible to install the new Ubuntu Phone on the HTC HD2?
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I think it's very possible, it is open source. I saw in one video that they're hoping or are willing to help developers port it to other phones.
My hd2 is ready for this.

I am a lil excited about this, particularly if we will have the option to boot into desktop by docking. Considering that the Galaxy Nexus is being used as the demo phone, I'm imagining that our lil HD2 will be capable (not saying they have identical specs, but clearly ubunto are going to demo it well above the min requirements)

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I am a lil excited about this, particularly if we will have the option to boot into desktop by docking. Considering that the Galaxy Nexus is being used as the demo phone, I'm imagining that our lil HD2 will be capable (not saying they have identical specs, but clearly ubunto are going to demo it well above the min requirements)
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They mentioned somewhere they wanted to have Ubuntu running not only across devices but on budget grade hardware within a device type as well. The HD2 still performs well relative to budget phones so I dont anticipate there will be any problems with the reqs. Can't wait till someone manages to get their hands on and port this!
EDIT: Actually wait, pulled from the Ubuntu site, there will be 2 versions:
Entry level (no desktop convergence)
1ghz cortex A9
512-1gb ram
4-8gb emmc + sd
High end (desktop convergence)
Quad core A9/Intel Atom
1gb ram
32gb emmc + sd
I'm sure the talented devs here will be able to manage something to get the high end onto the HD2, looks kind of overspec'd to me

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They mentioned somewhere they wanted to have Ubuntu running not only across devices but on budget grade hardware within a device type as well. The HD2 still performs well relative to budget phones so I dont anticipate there will be any problems with the reqs. Can't wait till someone manages to get their hands on and port this!
EDIT: Actually wait, pulled from the Ubuntu site, there will be 2 versions:
Entry level (no desktop convergence)
1ghz cortex A9
512-1gb ram
4-8gb emmc + sd
High end (desktop convergence)
Quad core A9/Intel Atom
1gb ram
32gb emmc + sd
I'm sure the talented devs here will be able to manage something to get the high end onto the HD2, looks kind of overspec'd to me
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Actually no, the high end phones running Ubuntu will also have a dock which will provide full desktop functionality (mouse, keyboard and
monitor). This is because the mobile version of Ubuntu will run on two cores, and the full Ubuntu desktop will run on the other two cores.
According to the requirements, the HD2 will be able to run Ubuntu Phone itself, though.
Hope this clears things up

AW: Ubuntu Phone for the HTC HD2
Any news? How could we get a dev going for this?
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I'm eagerly awaiting news on this as well!
I'd love to see Ubuntu running on the HD2. Is there anything this phone can't do? :laugh:

Yeah, I'm waiting for this too. I was able to launch GIMP using Debian on my HD2, so I'm very excited about getting usable Ubuntu:fingers-crossed:

Its very interesting for me too!:laugh:

It is available now for Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4!!!
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
We need some developers here:fingers-crossed:
I'm ready to test it on my HD2.

Believe the code in question is here. But don't think its the sorta thing that's portable. Anyone try it as it is? Can't spot in on first glance but I take it that the build model is taken from the device at some point, I guess if we can spoof that and see how far it boots.

Installed it on my gnexus today. It's nice but its just a preview . Almost nothing worked right. But it did get me excited!! Can't wait for the real deal now!

Canonical ask who has experience to help them to port Ubuntu Touch to new devices. Here's the link http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/taking-ubuntu-touch-to-new-levels/

Ill be tackling this once I can get the source downloaded, so many people are trying to get it that its crashing their repo, and since its ~12gigs, it might take a little while lol
I've token the time to extract the Ubuntu Touch Nexus 4 Dev Preview core system and put it into a ext4 Image to make easier for people to see exactly what's installed and be able to configure it without having to fully install it.
You can find the Operating System Image here - www.ZenfulApps.com

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Ill be tackling this once I can get the source downloaded, so many people are trying to get it that its crashing their repo, and since its ~12gigs, it might take a little while lol
I've token the time to extract the Ubuntu Touch Nexus 4 Dev Preview core system and put it into a ext4 Image to make easier for people to see exactly what's installed and be able to configure it without having to fully install it.
You can find the Operating System Image here - www.ZenfulApps.com
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Hi z3nful, I have been trying on and off all day to DL the image with varying degrees of success. The zip seems to have downloaded successfully but is only around 100mb (ranging from 79 to 130)(tried from chrome on pc and linux, and firefox). Any chance of a mirror? Thanks

Thats odd, it downloaded good on my phone, Linux, and XP. here's a direct link to it that's not run through the file manager on the site, should work fine that way (still working out some bugs lol)
UbuntuTouch-DevPreview-Mako.ext4.zip

z3nful said:
Thats odd, it downloaded good on my phone, Linux, and XP. here's a direct link to it that's not run through the file manager on the site, should work fine that way (still working out some bugs lol)
UbuntuTouch-DevPreview-Mako.ext4.zip
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Thanks, that link worked first time
Ok I have extracted the image to sd on fat32 renamed it UbuntuTouch.ext4.img and put it in linux-files/system
The linload app manages to mount the image, but when i try to start vnc, i get
"bash: vncserver: command not found" in terminal after some other stuff, leaving me at the prompt.
I have tried to connect using other vnc viewers but no joy yet.
I have partitioned my 32gb card with 16gb fat32, 10gb ext4, 4gb ext4(empty) and 256mb linux swap. And ideally would like to use the 3rd partition for the image. Do i just put the UbuntuTouch.ext4.img file there and point to it with linload?
Thanks again
Edit; using tytung jb 1.3a on nativeSD

The Touch preview doesn't have vnc install when you first download it, and from what I've seen looking around in it, there isn't a command to start up unity.
One thing you can try is to install vncserver, then see if you can get it to load an "ubuntu-session" from the xstartup file. I'm not sure if that will work though :/
I've almost got the source finished downloading, once thats done ill be trying for a working kernel to see if I can get this setup as its own rom

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One thing you can try is to install vncserver, then see if you can get it to load an "ubuntu-session" from the xstartup file.
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I will play around a bit more, but not sure how that works.
No worries though, as is preview.
Best of luck with it:fingers-crossed:

Ubuntu Touch Developer is currently running on the devices listed below - Devices
Waiting for our HD2!
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May have been looked at, but if not...Win 10 for Mobile on X86???

Ran across this video on youtube....the guy has run WinPhone 8.1 and Win 10 for mobile ( minus emulation and SDK ) from an image file.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1PoGqQ9rKI
Just wondering if this is something that can be tinkered with in an old 8" Tablet. An Acer W3 Intel Atom Z with 2 Gig Ram, as big boy Windows seems a bit much for the older hardware now.
I figured the minds here would know best if this would be something worth tinkering with.
Any thoughts?

maybe it is simply the Emulator VHD? have you tried it?

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maybe it is simply the Emulator VHD? have you tried it?
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I have not tried it, as my idea was to move it to an emmc of cheap old tablet, but the video was made by SSD swap. So not sure if I would even be able to get the image into the tablet. That is why I posted here, to see what the smart minds here think.