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[Q]Will you buy SE stuff again?

Share with us, will you dare to buy sony ericsson phone again?
My opinion - NO, NEVER AGAIN.
All this stuff with the locked bootlader, the huge efforts needed to flash custom rom, and there are again things that doesn't work.
Another thing - the lack of Dual Touch...

Share with us, will you dare to buy sony ericsson phone again?<br />
My opinion - NO, NEVER AGAIN.<br />
All this stuff with the locked bootlader, the huge efforts needed to flash custom rom, and there are again things that doesn't work.<br />
Another thing - the lack of Dual Touch...
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You're talking about old phones. On new ones you can unlock bootloader, they have mulitoch...
You cant compare X8 and Xperia Arc....
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to be fair, I realy love my Xperia (is my first android phone) and I am satisfied about the performace of this phone, taking into account the price of this smartphone, but it realy suck's that other devices like htc or samsung have the similar or worse hardwer than our xperia and these phone's have latest update of Android softver!
Big thank's to developer's here at XDA, for their efforts to make our phone a better and faster phone, if XDA not exist, I would have sold my phone and buy me another cheaper htc or samsung with the latest update!
I'm pretty sure that my next smartphone will be Xperia Arc or Xperia Play!

rafcamora91 said:
to be fair, I realy love my Xperia (is my first android phone) and I am satisfied about the performace of this phone, taking into account the price of this smartphone, but it realy suck's that other devices like htc or samsung have the similar or worse hardwer than our xperia and these phone's have latest update of Android softver!
Big thank's to developer's here at XDA, for their efforts to make our phone a better and faster phone, if XDA not exist, I would have sold my phone and buy me another cheaper htc or samsung with the latest update!
I'm pretty sure that my next smartphone will be Xperia Arc or Xperia Play!
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YEAH, thanks to the developers

rafcamora91 said:
to be fair, I realy love my Xperia (is my first android phone) and I am satisfied about the performace of this phone, taking into account the price of this smartphone, but it realy suck's that other devices like htc or samsung have the similar or worse hardwer than our xperia and these phone's have latest update of Android softver!
Big thank's to developer's here at XDA, for their efforts to make our phone a better and faster phone, if XDA not exist, I would have sold my phone and buy me another cheaper htc or samsung with the latest update!
I'm pretty sure that my next smartphone will be Xperia Arc or Xperia Play!
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how about xperia mini ?
Coming soon

When Xperia mini will be available in Hungary, i will buy one. Just compare with other phones in the category: mini is the best buy
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Even with the new phones, will SE ever keep updating OS for them? Or just release them to 2.3 and never update to 2.4+ ? Like us, who were abandoned with 2.1?
I agree to the point that newer phones have better hardware spec. But look, compared to other manufacturers, there's nothing impressive from SE. Xperia Arc? SE's best phone? It sucks with Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon 1GHz, in comparison with Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 in Galaxy S II.
What I am most disappointed from SE is they MAKE and they FORGET. Us? They MAKE us BELIEVE them.
Sony Ericsson: make.forget.
X8 will be my last SE phone.

My phone will be iPhone 3G or dual core based on tegra 2 android device THAT ISN'T MADE BY SE!
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I love my SE...but, for the same money, i can have LG OO (OS is supporting is incredible). For the first time, when i saw the Xperia Arc i say: This is my future phone, but i be afraid of the OS supporting. Now for me. I will buy in future other Android device (probably something from Acer or (I never believed that I say) HTC), or Nokia with WP7.
Sorry for my bad english.

Well, X8 has a very nice hardware comparing it to the price, but lack of support is just killing. I know they want us to buy new mini series next year, but I'm not going to give in. Next time it will be some nice HTC or Samsung - I'm thinking about Galaxy Pro. Or something like Wildfire S, but with better display resolution. We'll see next year

Flasher8 said:
how about xperia mini ?
Coming soon
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hmmm, a beautiful smartphone, great cam and procesor, but the display 3.0'?? just 3.0', i think that this phone will be to expensive for 3.0' display!
my moto: Biger is better

doixanh said:
Even with the new phones, will SE ever keep updating OS for them? Or just release them to 2.3 and never update to 2.4+ ? Like us, who were abandoned with 2.1?
I agree to the point that newer phones have better hardware spec. But look, compared to other manufacturers, there's nothing impressive from SE. Xperia Arc? SE's best phone? It sucks with Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon 1GHz, in comparison with Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 in Galaxy S II.
What I am most disappointed from SE is they MAKE and they FORGET. Us? They MAKE us BELIEVE them.
Sony Ericsson: make.forget.
X8 will be my last SE phone.
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hahaha Galaxy sII tore the Arc like paper, it's not fair from SE to require a lot of money for his "best android phone"....

Yeah, and they cost exactly the same... Rotfl

I love sony and se, not for their softaware but for their hardware.... nice look and good chips.
But next time for phone... HTC

rafcamora91 said:
to be fair, I realy love my Xperia (is my first android phone) and I am satisfied about the performace of this phone, taking into account the price of this smartphone, but it realy suck's that other devices like htc or samsung have the similar or worse hardwer than our xperia and these phone's have latest update of Android softver!
Big thank's to developer's here at XDA, for their efforts to make our phone a better and faster phone, if XDA not exist, I would have sold my phone and buy me another cheaper htc or samsung with the latest update!
I'm pretty sure that my next smartphone will be Xperia Arc or Xperia Play!
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Me too, X8 too is my first android phone, i like sony because of its ui and apps, unlike samsung and htc,

rafcamora91 said:
hmmm, a beautiful smartphone, great cam and procesor, but the display 3.0'?? just 3.0', i think that this phone will be to expensive for 3.0' display!
my moto: Biger is better
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It's mini!
Actually, I changed my mind about SE phones...
My next droid will be LG, because they have lousy devs and cracking/unlocking bootloader is easy. I think best support talking custom **** is on LG's side.
If you want better (custom) - buy LG phone.
True, true..

Im really doubtful if i will buy a SE again. One plus side with SE is that they have opened the bootloader for the newer phones.

Maybe I'm a fan of SE but my phone is X10 mini pro were abandoned ( no upgrade to 2.2 or 2.3). I can change branch in future.

@ doixanh :
That video is compare ARC with galaxy SII >>>> no fair for ARC .
Hình chụp thì tay cầm ARC bị run tay >>> hình nhòe đi so với SS Galaxy SII còn video thì bấm chậm hơn,chán nản + thất vọng.

Both ARC and Galaxy SII are latest phones from both company. That's fair to compare them
Mình đâu có quan tâm đến ảnh/quay đâu, nhìn con SII nó mượt trong browser thế kia cơ mà... ARC vẫn đuối lắm

Arc update can we get it on the x10

Head on over to the Sony Ericsson website or check the PC Companian software if you own the Xperia arc. There's a new software update available which adds new themes, a landscape mode for the homescreen, stereo audio in video recordings, an audio boost system called xLoud and ...
Is there some one who can get this and make a flasheble rom threu xrevory so we can get it on the x10 ???
Sorry for the bad englische

wrong forum...

I so want all these stuff in X10 and remember the words of Mighty Bob the builder
YES, WE CAN

if we could get the update software maybe we could use it on our x10 phones

I guess SE will give us some little software updates with bugfixes and maybe new features.

I doubt they'll be bringing it to the X10... It brings a lot of new features. Every time they update the X10 the owners have one less reason to upgrade their phone. I think it's really nice they brought 2.3.3 to the X10, but I don't expect them to give it much updates aside bugfixes...

Ambroos said:
I doubt they'll be bringing it to the X10... It brings a lot of new features. Every time they update the X10 the owners have one less reason to upgrade their phone. I think it's really nice they brought 2.3.3 to the X10, but I don't expect them to give it much updates aside bugfixes...
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who is asking SE to give us....I guess our devs can make a .zip file of this update optimized for X10

Maybe we will have a large discussion on SE Forum and ask them update Xperia X10 to Android 2.3.4 again lol. And because the information that SE was testing Android 2.3.4 on X10 so I think this will be. And include in this update is all the update of Xperia Arc :erk:

kunalgahlot said:
who is asking SE to give us....I guess our devs can make a .zip file of this update optimized for X10
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I hope our devs will do that that would make a lott of people happy here

will never happen... arc is far too different...
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I think it would work the arc rom works also fully on the x10 so why wont it work know ??

kemmo123 said:
will never happen... arc is far too different...
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sorry your completely wrong...ARC is infact very very similar to x10

zodiac100 said:
sorry your completely wrong...ARC is infact very very similar to x10
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It's not. Different CPU, GPU, camera, touchscreen, ... They might be similar in functionality but not in hardware.
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Ambroos said:
It's not. Different CPU, GPU, camera, touchscreen, ... They might be similar in functionality but not in hardware.
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No. Both still work the same way besides multi touch and the fact the arc has a new processor so its really easy to port. Trip ported a Rom before official 2.3. From the arc
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Lion3494 said:
No. Both still work the same way besides multi touch and the fact the arc has a new processor so its really easy to port. Trip ported a Rom before official 2.3. From the arc
Sent from my x10 on official gingerbread
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Easy?! It's hard if you don't know how, and if you want to make it run fast without lags it is even harder to do... And because the Arc has a newer processor it doesn't mean that something is easy to port.

I hope some one will get it that would be very nice

ICS update delayed... Won't come OTA

Doesn't look good for the Verizon crowd.
http://androidcommunity.com/sony-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-delays-no-ota-updates-either-20120330/
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Wonder what impact this will have on root
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I like it. It sounds like they're going to straight-up release it for use with Flashtool. With the work that the developers have done in porting roms to the R800x, chevyowner in particular, it should be a really good development in terms of updates.

please add cdma to this thread title, otherwise a lot of gsm use will get a shock for their life xD

It doesn't really pertain specifically to CDMA. It's a general deal, apparently, that Sony is delaying, and aren't releasing OTAs.

Verizon's Firmware is different from Sony's, so I still believe if Verizon does update your devices that it will be OTA, As of other carriers, I don't know.

The .145 firmware was a UK firmware that supported CDMA variants, which is mostly the Verizon Xperia Play. I believe if Sony could do it then, they can do it again. I'm holding out hope for this one.

I'm patiently awaiting the UK ICS Rom for my r800x.

Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

sufy1000 said:
Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess

poo-tang said:
We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess
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Yeah... but atleast they've told us that if it'll run on 2011 Xperia devices or not so we don't jump in straight and update to Ice Cream Sandwich which then would be a problem for us.
So, I guess all us with a 2011 Xperia model will have to stay on Gingerbread. Well I don't mind as long as everything runs smoothly which it does on Gingerbread.
I am still a unhappy though cause I was looking forward to ICS I waited so long !

I had a feeling it was a bad sign when Verizon offered me a free upgrade..... Glad they chose to grease the squeaky wheel.... Still sucks though....

You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?

romcio47 said:
You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?
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Agreed. Sony are playing with us. They are very very lazy indeed.
So Peed of right now

I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
If you want a fast phone stick with COLA rom.
trust me.
ICS is like putting lipstick on a pig.
the whole thing reeks of slow /bloatware and "pretty effects"
you know what i say to that? F*** that S***
I dont give a d*** about what it looks like.

Hogwarts said:
I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
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So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?

Logseman said:
So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?
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lol true. It's got nothing to with ICS but it's all got to do with the Sony Delevopers !

And it's good that they actually highlight these possible issues anyway! I would much rather know this than update blindly and find them later by myself. Then again, what people seem to want is to hear that their device is magical. It sells better indeed.

First thing I'm doing upon getting the official update is to remove Bloat like Music Unlimited ****...

Reapman said:
Wonder what impact this will have on root
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None. We have root now
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Xperia J ICS hope

It looks like we maybe able to get that ICS in a very official state.
|Look at the specs of Xperia J that will be released soon.
http://mobile-review.com/review/sony-xperia-j-st26i.shtml

Locutus5382 said:
It looks like we maybe able to get that ICS in a very official state.
|Look at the specs of Xperia J that will be released soon.
http://mobile-review.com/review/sony-xperia-j-st26i.shtml
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That would be nice if specs is true and xda devs could use it

Really? 5mpx camera (X10i has 8mpx)? 512 RAM (384 RAM)? Or maybe MSM7227A SoC (X10i has QSD8250)? Only the screen has same res and size. Xperia arc/arc s has ICS too, and many other Xperia line devices on similar specs have ICS. But similar is not the same and u can't take ROM from one device and put it in another just because they have similar specs. That's ridiculous, same as this topic.
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It's old Adreno 2xx so if this chip gets ics support than x10 might use the driver. It's needed for HWA
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Locutus5382 said:
It looks like we maybe able to get that ICS in a very official state.
|Look at the specs of Xperia J that will be released soon.
http://mobile-review.com/review/sony-xperia-j-st26i.shtml
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I am one of the owner of Xperia J phone. This is the lowest end Android phone that I have (in term of price) and I can tell you it is worth is, especially if you are going to use it for most of the time to read email and browse internet. The design is splendid and the battery life is good.

nakTT said:
I am one of the owner of Xperia J phone. This is the lowest end Android phone that I have (in term of price) and I can tell you it is worth is, especially if you are going to use it for most of the time to read email and browse internet. The design is splendid and the battery life is good.
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yep second that almost made 2 days reading emails and listening to music/radio

Taurenking said:
yep second that almost made 2 days reading emails and listening to music/radio
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Exactly.
Hope we will have active development and support for this model.
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Leak **** leak xperia z

My sources tell me that the Usa version of Xperia z will carry the new snapdragon 600 series !! That's why it didn't come out Jan or Feb and there releasing it Q2 and it makes total sense cause if it didnt have the new and improved 600 series snapdragon they should of released it q1 to not have any losses during all of quarter one but it makes sense why there there waiting for Q2.. whoopie .... Thanks Sony for using the new 600 series on the Usa version of Xperia z I'm glad I didn't try and buy a different phone now in quarter 1when I had an upgrade available ..
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why would only the US version of the Xperia Z get the new chipset?
your souces sound false.

Sv: Leak **** leak xperia z
That would be rather odd, if that was the case.. I'd like to see that, before I believe it. Would be the poorest marketing move of Sony yet..
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Delaying launch will only hamper sales as new competition will be out then... surely Sony never want that

Where is Spectre51.. he has a good insider to I believe

Yeah it's likely less than 1% true if you ask me. Although I would have believed it if it were samsung or htc but sony? Nah! Not gonna happen even if it would be the end of the world

No info on the different CPU part of the original topic. Highly doubtful.
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While I don't necessarily believe this so called "leak" I do believe that if we're to wait until Q2 for this phone, it should be updated with the latest chipset. Consumers don't want to feel like they are buying a new device with "old" tech inside, even if the performance is still great and it is not that old. I WANT Sony to sell their ZL here in Canada with the new 600 series, considering the new chips are available.

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While I don't necessarily believe this so called "leak" I do believe that if we're to wait until Q2 for this phone, it should be updated with the latest chipset. Consumers don't want to feel like they are buying a new device with "old" tech inside, even if the performance is still great and it is not that old. I WANT Sony to sell their ZL here in Canada with the new 600 series, considering the new chips are available.
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Exactly if they wanted to make sales and have ZERO losses at all period it would of released already globally but it didnt cause they want to make sure the usa version has the new An improved 600 series that's why its not out yet also hasn't given out any details regarding it there waiting FOR 21 to announce everything ...at that big show and they will use the new 600 series as the marketING scheme to get people to buy it.. I mean lets be total seriously here if its not gone have 600 series it would be released already GLOBALLY !!!!! It would have been the smartest choice to realease the best phone in Q1 before other great phones come OUT they would have had an entire quarter all to themselves for people to buy there phone but they can't so there waiting til Q2 when they have enough supplies of the 600 series to realease the phone with.
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gabrielpina4 said:
cause they want to make sure the usa version has the new An improved 600 series that's why its not out yet
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Not quite. There is another reason it isn't out yet but I can't talk about that yet. I wouldn't expect any hardware changes.
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They want to wait until it has jelly bean 4.2. Just my guess.

robertopod1968 said:
They want to wait until it has jelly bean 4.2. Just my guess.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Well then, sounds like one of the carriers might be picking one of the devices up after all (of course, after applying the usual branding). Good for Sony, didn't expect AT&T to pick up any Xperia's this period.
Might be something else but I can't really think of anything. Sony doesn't like making a lot of hardware adjustments (especially not internals) so that pretty much rules out a Snapdragon 600 for H1.

Ambroos said:
Well then, sounds like one of the carriers might be picking one of the devices up after all (of course, after applying the usual branding). Good for Sony, didn't expect AT&T to pick up any Xperia's this period.
Might be something else but I can't really think of anything. Sony doesn't like making a lot of hardware adjustments (especially not internals) so that pretty much rules out a Snapdragon 600 for H1.
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Now if only I can hold off not ordering a C6602 until then...
Will this be the C6606?
Spectre any ETA

amerikian said:
Now if only I can hold off not ordering a C6602 until then...
Will this be the C6606?
Spectre any ETA
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Yes but I'm not allowed to say. It will be C6606.
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Knowing the usual AT&T delay from Sony it'll probably be late April or May (pure speculation).

Spectre51 said:
Yes but I'm not allowed to say. It will be C6606.
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Thanks for the info! Besides LTE, is there any other reason to wait for the C6606 over the C6602 then?

amerikian said:
Thanks for the info! Besides LTE, is there any other reason to wait for the C6606 over the C6602 then?
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Nothing as far as hardware goes.

amerikian said:
Thanks for the info! Besides LTE, is there any other reason to wait for the C6606 over the C6602 then?
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Awesome AT&T branding everywhere, if that's your thing