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With Ice cream sandwich coming out this fall or winter it seems like this phone might have came out at the wrong time. There will probably be an update for the sg2 or at least a port, but not sure if the experience will really be the same.
I am guessing I am probably going to move to the next nexus device when it comes out. I am just wondering how many people believe they will get rid of their gs2 within a year.
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With Ice cream sandwich coming out this fall or winter it seems like this phone might have came out at the wrong time. There will probably be an update for the sg2 or at least a port, but not sure if the experience will really be the same.
I am guessing I am probably going to move to the next nexus device when it comes out. I am just wondering how many people believe they will get rid of their gs2 within a year.
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There will always be something newer and shinier on the horizon. The S2 is currently (arguably) the best android handset you can buy. Even the recently released dual core competitors don't seem to stack up against it.
Personally I adopt a 12 - 18 month cycle. In that amount of time large leaps can be made in technology and I can still get my moneys worth out of the current device.
The new S3 (not the nexus prime which is very sketchy on details and release timeframe) is touted to be a 1.4 Ghz dual core with NFC - not really a huge leap forward and not enough reason to get rid of my current S2, especially given the fact that CM is almost out for the S2 and worse case scenario (or best case ) we can go to icecream S via that route.
till see a perfect " pure google "phone .. hoping the rumors about Nexus Prime are true
I will probably keep it for the next 2 years. As someone else said we might get Ice Cream Sandwich officially or unofficially. Doubt i might be attracted by another device for at least a year, apps and games are still poorly optimized for dual-core devices, let alone quad-core, if they get launched by the end of the year. As i'm not a fan of 3D mobile phones and i consider S2 to have the proper screen size for a mobile phone, i guess it's safe to say i'll be keeping the S2 for 1 - 2 years. I still have my HTC Touch HD which i kept for 3 years and i gotta say the only reason for changing it was the desire to try Android OS. In terms of battery consumption WM does a lot better job than Android and my 3 old HD's battery beats the hell out of S2's, while doing the same things.
18 month contract, so easy decision really.
As soon as the Sensation gets S-OFF I jump ship, going to the Desire HD (my backup phone) upgrade. I like the 4 soft keys too much and most of all, as a music phone, I find the SGS2 doesn't quite has it in term of sound AND volume. So now I'm reduced to show off during the week with my dual-core SGS2 and having the Desire HD during the weekends, for teh love of music! DSP manager+Android Music app v3.0 don't give the same result on DHD and SGS2, you can't even compare. I have 9.6 GB of music on my 16GB microSD, the only thing preventing me to get a Sensation is the locked bootloader.
HTC screwed it up perfectly on this one!
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For the price of this phone, I am hoping two years. But as new phones come out over the next year it will make it hard for a phone ho such as myself
Until it starts feeling outdated and slow... kind of like the feeling I get when I use my girlfriend's SGS after using the SGSII for almost 2 months now.
As of right now, the SGSII runs everything smoothly. No point in upgrading when I get no performance benefits whatsoever.
I will keep mine until something significantly better comes out.
Thanks to villainrom 1.4 the only big comllaint i had, battery kife, has been addressed.
Screen, speed, form factor and camera on this handset cant.be matched, and from what weve seen so far only the iphone 5 will come close any time soon.
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I'm "stuck with this phone for two years" to use the words of my mother (I had to get the contract in her name) so I don't think ill be getting any kind of upgrade before then ,although my contract says I can upgrade May 2013 but I won't be doing this as by then ill be 18 and can get my own contract, then i'm hoping to move to a 12 or 18 month contract, so I can keep up with the latest hardware.
Hopefully Samsung will be sticking to the 18month update thing that they announced at Google IO, so it won't feel to outdated.
I don't really see any major hardware changed happening for another year (most quadcore chips are scheduledfor Q1 or Q2 2012 launches) so we will probably find a similar situation to late last year when all new phones had very similar specs.
2 years, unless I find myself with a lot of disposable income.
5-6 months. haven't kept a smartphone longer than that (except the htc desire, which i used as my flash-happy android phone side-by-side with when i had an iphone 3gs/4). As for my next purchase, leaning strongly towards whatever the next nexus is!
I upgrade around every 6 months so I guess it will be December time! To be honest unless HTC come up with something superb I reckon I'll be waiting on the next Samsung beast...... Hercules anyone??
Regards.
Till Galaxy SIII comes out
allready sold.. was nice, to have the best smartphone for a while.
But I wait till something better hits the market
Something more Flawless.
SGS2 was pretty near, but the battery turned me off
With 2 days battery life, I wouldn't even sold it or would buy a new.
Hope SGS3 will be flawless
18-24 months at least i'd say.
what makes you think Ice cream sandwich won't be good on it btw?
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6 months. Max. If Samsung will fix at least half of currently available bugs. Actually, last night i wanted to smash it to the wall.
@ AllWin: what sort of bugs? I've been pretty thorough with the phone, and haven't found much at all. Although I'm putting Kies asside here - if you are including that then fair enough
I'm loving the phone (just got one week ago.) Two possible gripes that will see me seriously consider and test the iPhone 5 when I can upgrade again (9 months).
Battery is a little gripe, although I'm hoping it will be better with time - do my usual of put on everything possible (in this case, 3G, wireless, Bluetooth, GPS, amazing looking live wallpaper galaxy something or other). I do use all the above. I'll start switching things off one by one after a week until I'm getting a full day of my usage out of it.
Secondly, I know it has been said before. but the syncing progress feels very old fashioned and cumbersome compared to the iPhone it replaced. I have spent a lot of time working out hwo to make this as simple as possible. Only time will tell if it continues to be a gripe.
If I can deal with the above, then I love the phone, and Samsungs vlingo which actually works and from a technical point of view would be happy waiting 18 months or more.
Until it stops working.
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2 years or until it breaks
Samsung hasnt confirmed that there would be a official android 4.0 update for samsung i9000. So does this mean we will not get it as a official update? Cuz there is alot of other samsung phones that have been confirmed.
The SGS is almost 2 yrs old,so I'm assuming Samsung might have given up on us.But then again,till it's confirmed,nobody can know for sure.Besides,even if the official ICS for SGS is out,we're gonna end using the custom ROM anyway
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Maybe if we make a few more threads about this we will get an answer? We're probably only 10-20 more threads away if we just keep at it.
Hopefully Samsung hears the pleads of i9000 users and gives us an official update so the devs have a Easyer time giving us the roms.
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I will look forward to getting an official answer to this question.. but SlvrWolf~XP makes a good point...
It will probably be unlikely for Samsung to update our Galaxy S i9000 to ICS since we've already gotten update TWICE (not many phone brand and models got such privilege, Eclair > Froyo > GingerBread). And Samsung may want to make both Galaxy S I and S II (with Nexus S) differentiated so that more people are encouraged to buy the newer phones...
I think SGS will not get ICS
Read today info from Samsung Mobile https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...ch-upgrade-for-galaxy-devices/328795820483403
Yeah, they just announced on twitter too, seems like Galaxy S is not in the update list.
Well, a port from ICS on the Nexus S should work just fine.
I wonder what their reasons are for not updating the Galaxy S, obviously it's not platform limitations since the Nexus S got it, shame on Samsung, hope they loose lots of costumers .
(BTW I have a Nexus S but I'm pissed for Samsung's attitude!)
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shame on Samsung, hope they loose lots of costumers .
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Things is who are they going to lose customers to? HTC and Motorola phones from early-mid 2010 aren't going to get it either. The answer for updates is to get a Nexus phone from...oops.
The whole landscape of branded devices sucks not just Samsung, but I guess 'the grass is always greener' and people will just move to another manufacturer with little or no research into the facts of whether they are actually better for updates or not. If we take a look:
Moto announced a list of devices...not even the Atrix dual-core phone released in early 2011 was included, although it may be added. Anything from 2010 you can probably forget it.
On the HTC side the phone that came out at the same time as the SGS, at least around here, was the Desire. They had a heck of a time getting gingerbread to run on that apparently, ICS is probably out of the question, so no improvement there.
Basically anywhere I look only phones released within the last year are getting ICS officially. The grass isn't always greener, although I suspect many will jump over the fence without taking a very close look. Again the only real answer is a Nexus, unfortunately this iteration is a bit disappointing so myself I'm going to try and hold out for the next one although I admit at this point a year seems very far away.
and think of it from a business POV st's not good business practice to have complete support for an old platform, I mean look at MS the ONLY reason they still support XP is because of businesses, though that's slipping away furthermore 2 year contracts are common place for phones nowadays due to most being smartphone related so people who own the SGS back in 2010 are now due for an upgrade anyway so it won't bother the main bulk of consumers.
Personally I'm planning on waiting it out for the SGSIII so regardless the i9000 gets it for most is irrelevant.
Not a surprise for me and I don’t care what Sammy is doing.
Long live CM9
Well the thing is not other do... the thing is Galaxy S is still with a shi#y firmware after all this time. Not even on its "death" there is not a stock rom to make it perform as it should. Cmon' take a look at CM7... now imagine a Samsung built ROM based on it, even with all that crappy TouchWiz.. great camera, 720p recording, great battery life, fast as light.
Now... how can I buy another phone from them, knowing that maybe it will never work as it should. When SGS was released everybody said how fast it is, king of the hill... wth, it was crawling... Unfortunately, Samsung has Gorilla glass, has Amoled, low prices.... HTC has gread build quality, no Gorilla, no low prices, high performance....
Very disappointed by Samsung.
This is a high end device released in 2010 and already abandoned.
The S1 is perfectly compatible with ICS, this is pure business, or how to force
people to buy a new phone they don't need. Planned obsolescence, just like apple (but even Apple or HTC offer better software support...)
Of course there will be unofficial roms, but imho it's never the same quality as an official one.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus device.
Samsung forgot his smart baby snif
Cyano is here, fortunatly, to give GS1 users a good Ics experience
Samsung lost me as a customer if they choose not to update the SGS. I've already said I'll never buy a Samsung phone in the past because of their lack of support and lack of timely updates, but this now goes to anything Samsung.
I have a Samsung laptop and a Samsung TV, both of which I'll be replacing with a newer model in the coming weeks, but now those replacements will not be Samsung models.
I wouldn't be upset if there was a hardware compatibility issue like lack of memory, but there isn't.
It's perfectly capable. As for this 18 month thing, fine. Let them use that. But my i9000m only has 2.3.3 while the rest of the world has 2.3.6. They stopped updating my phone a long time ago, so they didn't even give me 18 months since they stopped me at 2.3.3 with all it's problems.
HTC even gave some of their older phones gingerbread by scaling down HTC sense to accommodate hardware limitations. Yet Samsung won't with no limitations for ICS.
The Galaxy Nexus was a phone I was thinking about, but no longer. I'm not going to line Samsungs pockets anymore. I'll wait to do my upgrade to the Next Nexus that hopefully will be made by a different manufacturer.
Samsung screwed their update processes with the million incarnations of our phones. Updates are too hard and lengthy for them to complete because of this, so they are taking the easy way out.
Samsungs war with Apple? They just sent a lot of SGS owners their way. At least you know your phone well always get updates provided the hardware is capable, even if they have to scale it down like they did on the 3GS.
I for one will never buy Apple, but count me in the camp of never buying Samsung again too if I don't get ICS officially from them.
My apologies for my rant.
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Here i come apple, samsung made me to. 3GS is older than sgs and it runs iOS5 from this year. Something android phones can just dream on.
I agree with you Greeced.
The SGS has been well maintained to date.
But the samsung's update policy is just catastrophic.
In some countries, people don't even have an official gingerbread update trough Kies.
Samsung sold millions of SGS in the world (the device is still available in most countries). Their policy is unacceptable. And it's too easy to blame the operators.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus phone (regardless of the manufacturer) because they are always good phones and it's a guarantee to have a long-term support.
To everyone that says "x company will lose sales", while that may be true, how many of the millions sold are used by people who have knowledge or interest in the latest android? Many buy the phone and enjoy it and use it, and just don't care or aren't particularly bothered by the update pattern.
What I find amazing is that the Galaxy S Plus isn't even on the list and that's what, 6 months old?
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Very disappointed by Samsung.
This is a high end device released in 2010 and already abandoned.
The S1 is perfectly compatible with ICS, this is pure business, or how to force
people to buy a new phone they don't need. Planned obsolescence, just like apple (but even Apple or HTC offer better software support...)
Of course there will be unofficial roms, but imho it's never the same quality as an official one.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus device.
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I believe that is the mentality that they want the market to have...mission complete.
Today is pretty much a sad day for Samsung, ICS and Android in general, in my opinion.
Androids latest version, ICS, has been released about 5 months ago. Today, the most important Android device available on the planet, has not yet seen an update to this latest version yet, and I think that is something to be ashamed of. As a pretty normal user, I don't know and don't really care how much development goes on before releasing a new version, but a company that sells 300 million handsets in a year (of which at least 20 million of this type of handset that have cost the user somewhere between 400 and 550 euro's) I expect some more dedication to deliver a finished product worthy of it's name, fame and money. Google should be very upset that their latest product stays more or less hidden from public for about 6 months in this high paced market because multi-billion multinationals choose to dedicate too few people to get the software side of things sorted out.
All the false rumours don't really add to the experience of having a top-end device. Countless piles of crap have been pushed out by various dubious sources simply because Samsung does not wish to pin itself to a date. They knew, that people would have been outraged if they had stated in october that ICS would be released on the Android phone as much as half a year later. Instead, they let the irritation smolder and only give some vague hints once or twice during the whole period.
In my opinion, smartphone use is not as much about hardware as many of the Android manufacturers and users would like to see. The race for top specs will probably look quite ridiculous a few years from now. The secret to having an amazing device has it's foundation in good hardware (not neccesarily top notch hardware though) and esthetics/design, but without proper software this foundation will still be only a foundation. Nobody likes to own the best foundation in the world when there are no walls, windows, furniture, household appliances and great looks and functionality to make the living pleasureable. Off course, Samsung does provide us with all that in some way or another, but it is lagging behind seriously, especially compared to the competing major OS'es.
Naturally, every Android user has the possibility to blast everything off the foundation and build something custom on it, being either Samsung stuff with some extra things and paint added or removed, or being prefab Cyanogenmod or MIUI or whatever, but unfortunately this argument is worth almost nothing since it is again Samsung who decides when the bits and pieces become available for custom building, and this is lagging even further behind than their own software building, much to the irritation of the developers of custom firmware.
So, to sum it up, I think this has been a praticularly bad day for all SGS2 Android smartphone lovers. And being beaten to it by some other competing manufacturer does not help!
Thanks for listening
Dude, relax. It is just a phone. An nice one, but still a phone.
waaaaaaa
You do know Samsung don't have to release an update right?
Next time get a Nexus device, any other flavoured Android build takes time for adaptation and I'll rather they did a good job than rush a half baked build.
Your rant suggests you lack a fundamental understanding of the process.
Huge post lol
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i would rather have a stable rom with a bit of delay than a buggy one (doesnt apply to cyanogen mod )
and what are you on about its been about 3 months from the release of galaxy nexus
and anyways ics is coming tomorrow
we did have beta roms from december and we could see samsung patching bugs in each successive build this is what xda is we all work together to make our devices better and better
Stop moaning, HTC have just started rolling out ICS in certain regions, what about other Android manufacturers? Where's LG, where's Motorola? Where are their ICS leaks etc etc applies to all.
Each manufacturer has their own overlay on top of ICS this takes time and testing to get it right, it's a few months late oh well at least 2.3.6 is running fine though, there's no need for Samsung to update our phones to ICS they're a business do you think they care how long we have to wait no, they'd rather make money and focus on getting ICS running on their next flagship model then current flagship.
We will get it just a matter of when, if you don't like it get a Nexus, also made by Samsung.
All these posts bashing Samsung its just all the tech blogs making things worse!
If you dont like it get an iPhone or better yet a symbian device!
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lol, u mad
I would like the OP to tell me one thing that he/she can do on ICS that they can't do on gingerbread. And make it a decent example and not something like "monitor data usage" which I agree is nice to be built in but nothing that can't be done already with an app.
The way this post has been worded with all the "house/foundation" metaphor you would think that the SGS2 doesn't work at all atm and needs ICS to make it functional, which we all know is rubbish.
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@bluefa1con ICS is not coming tomorrow, they went back on their word this morning.
anyway, you're right, and i'm a bit disappointed because Samsung have been best buddy with Google since Google Dev Day 2011, they have access to early build of their OS, they even produced 2 Nexus phones for them, there's a huge meaning behind this, but still, Samsung waited till the last moment to start working on their flagship device, first leaked build started coming out after official ics aosp release, and their work is progressing very slowly, but, like someone before me said, it's just a phone, i just love playing around with it, and i don't mind waiting till april/may for a stable rom, all i want from them are kernel sources.
I completly agree with OP-post.
My rage is simple, I mean, We're the owners of the fastest and best device in 2011 and we still didnt even had a actual DATE. The only thing, that was said: "Q1 2012". If I remember correctly, they said that Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note will have the update at Q1.
But let me tell you this, if they're still delaying date, and giving wrong info at their official(!) website, it seems that SGS2 ICS is not ready or something, that means that Galaxy Note is even out of place, probably, it will have the update somewhere at Q2 of 2012. It's totally unacceptable from such big and sucessful company as Samsung. We can't trust them, simply, they say one thing, tomorrow it will be "wrong" or something.
Samsung making great devices, and I love them, but the thing as they communicate with their customers, with their community - is just unacceptable. They won so much awards for their phone, and they, still, can't release their update to us.
Next time, i'll go to pure Google Phone.
Sorry for my poor English.
It is simple..they just dont respect us..hope there will be day they pay for this..
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I completly agree with OP-post.
My rage is simple, I mean, We're the owners of the fastest and best device in 2011 and we still didnt even had a actual DATE. The only thing, that was said: "Q1 2012". If I remember correctly, they said that Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note will have the update at Q1.
But let me tell you this, if they're still delaying date, and giving wrong info at their official(!) website, it seems that SGS2 ICS is not ready or something, that means that Galaxy Note is even out of place, probably, it will have the update somewhere at Q2 of 2012. It's totally unacceptable from such big and sucessful company as Samsung. We can't trust them, simply, they say one thing, tomorrow it will be "wrong" or something.
Samsung making great devices, and I love them, but the thing as they communicate with their customers, with their community - is just unacceptable. They won so much awards for their phone, and they, still, can't release their update to us.
Next time, i'll go to pure Google Phone.
Sorry for my poor English.
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Same here mate..Those guys who have the GNEX are having the last laugh now. They even got a HTC sense 4.0 port as well those lucky bastards....I am gonna hold off till that release instead of going for the s3
About a year ago HTC decide to close their phones. That's why i decide to change to Samsung. And with me a lot of other HTC users. You are wright. This is not the way to communicate with your customers. This Samsung phone is my first and last one.
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Think about it this way a large proportion of users don't give a crap about what firmware is running on their phone as long as it works, us geeks or enthusiasts may give a crap, but my sister has got an S2, several other work colleagues have them to and none of them even know about custom roms and such let alone an update to ICS so to the mass it's not a major priority in having the latest or greatest firmware as long as they can use their phones that's what they care about.
Several work colleagues are still on the original firmware and I've told them to update but they don't care or don't have the technological ability to do so.
There is a higher percentage of normal users compared to us at XDA who make a minority.
And for those who say this will be their last Samsung device good for you, go buy a Nexus oh wait that's made by Samsung as well! I'll continue to enjoy my device running on gingerbread which works beautifully also knowing the fact it's still the best phone available currently apart from the Note which I consider a niche and better than the s2.
If you want aosp buy a Nexus otherwise deal with the fact that it takes longer to get an update. It's the way it is on Android, look at the other manufacturers as well its common. That's the problem with an open source system compared to iOS where there are a selected few devices so updates are quicker to roll out on the product lines.
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So what is next after ics update? There are going to be complaints that ics is bad, its touch wiz bla bla bla.
Ics is not going to turn your phone into super powered alien or going to give you 10 days backup. Why can't you people just wait.
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So what is next after ics update? There are going to be complaints that ics is bad, its touch wiz bla bla bla.
Ics is not going to turn your phone into super powered alien or going to give you 10 days backup. Why can't you people just wait.
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Why does Touchwiz still look the same, along those lines.... Why is it still green, etc etc.
TouchWiz 5 will be for the next flagship.
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I like GB.
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waaaaaaa
You do know Samsung don't have to release an update right?
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As in a contractual obligation? No indeed, I know that. But aparently (look around here on XDA) it is expected. Dissapoint customers too long, and you will be ditched for the one who doesn't.
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Next time get a Nexus device, any other flavoured Android build takes time for adaptation and I'll rather they did a good job than rush a half baked build.
Your rant suggests you lack a fundamental understanding of the process.
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Yeah, because getting a Nexus device will get you there quicker Most Nexus S users are still waiting on their update to ICS since updating was stopped at dec 20th.
And somewhere in my post I did mention myself that I lack fundamental understanding of the process of building firmware for handsets, thanks for repeating that to me. That doesn't mean I'm unable to compare this process to other processes and draw conclusions as a customer.
Updating on Android is slow and ceases quickly (this will probably be the last major update for the SGS2 already), so when developing stuff for Android you need to take at least 5 different versions of the OS into concideration because the market shares of the versions are very fragmented. A nuisance for developers, and also for users stuck on Froyo for example who cannot install some app because the developer chose to only build it for 2.3+ to save some time and money.
If you guys dont care that much, why you're replaying to this kind of threads?
The only thing I am talking about, is lack of communication between customer and Samsung. How the hell they can give fresh news about ICS update on their official website, and then, immidiatly, deleting it, and telling in twitter something about "wrong date". How cool is that?
They can at least say one time 100% date, but they're just keep all in secret, that's not the good way how they should treat to custumers of best device in 2011.
I'm still shocked how Galaxy Note users keep waiting for it, one leak, no news, no everything. Obviously, Sammy didnt release ICS for them in March, then, their saying about "Galaxy Note & Galaxy S2 ICS in Q1 2012" is wrong.
So the HTC One X (barely one year old) is being 'forgotten' by HTC. It might receive Sense 5, if it's lucky, but anything after that is a no go. Source. There is no reason why, the device is still powerful. Will the HTC One follow this pattern next year? HTC has a history of leaving their devices behind, just looked at any of their previous phones. I really wanted to get the One, but after hearing this bit of news, I suddenly realized why I want to stray away from HTC now. Thoughts?
I'm really considering buying this phone but don't want it to be forgotten next year. I want a phone I can hold onto for a bit. The One, based on history, doesn't seem like it will provide.
Even if it is "forgotten" we have so many great devs that purchased the One so we will more than likely have custom ROMs with the newest software for quite some time.
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So the HTC One X (barely one year old) is being 'forgotten' by HTC. It might receive Sense 5, if it's lucky, but anything after that is a no go. Source. There is no reason why, the device is still powerful. Will the HTC One follow this pattern next year? HTC has a history of leaving their devices behind, just looked at any of their previous phones. I really wanted to get the One, but after hearing this bit of news, I suddenly realized why I want to stray away from HTC now. Thoughts?
I'm really considering buying this phone but don't want it to be forgotten next year. I want a phone I can hold onto for a bit. The One, based on history, doesn't seem like it will provide.
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when u leave your wife for good, are u still going to support her?
The One X is confirmed officially to be receiving Android 4.2.2 and Sense 5.0 so what is the point of "if it's lucky"
meanwhile no official words about after that
Your phone, when purchased, works fine. Forgotten or not, it does not need an update to the software to work
KLP doesn't even have a release date so its no wonder HTC aren't committing to anything.
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when u leave your wife for good, are u still going to support her?
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Yep... Here in Canada you support until the day you die or you go to jail.
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So the HTC One X (barely one year old) is being 'forgotten' by HTC. It might receive Sense 5, if it's lucky, but anything after that is a no go. Source. There is no reason why, the device is still powerful. Will the HTC One follow this pattern next year? HTC has a history of leaving their devices behind, just looked at any of their previous phones. I really wanted to get the One, but after hearing this bit of news, I suddenly realized why I want to stray away from HTC now. Thoughts?
I'm really considering buying this phone but don't want it to be forgotten next year. I want a phone I can hold onto for a bit. The One, based on history, doesn't seem like it will provide.
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One X is one year old. It is being updated. next year, it will be two years old and won't be updated, but anyone who bought one the first year it was out will be upgrade eligible that year. Not seeing the huge issue.
Reminds me of my old desire hd which was promised ICS by HTC then decided not to push through with it anyway.
Apple IOS wont forget software update to their old devices(4 or 4s)!! great
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Reminds me of my old desire hd which was promised ICS by HTC then decided not to push through with it anyway.
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yes but the Desire HD got a bucket load of updates, yes the end of the story was bad
but 2011 line up was huge and confusing
this year only one device to focus on
and the One X/S/XL had an amazing record so far and still to come
so really are we complaining for complaining sake?
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yes but the Desire HD got a bucket load of updates, yes the end of the story was bad
but 2011 line up was huge and confusing
this year only one device to focus on
and the One X/S/XL had an amazing record so far and still to come
so really are we complaining for complaining sake?
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I understand you're a fanboy, and I expect that from this forum, I do! The complaint is: HTC is not the best when it comes to updates. You made a great point, however, that the One is their main flagship so far. Whereas, last year, HTC had a pathetic, ridiculous amount of variants for the old One. Hopefully HTC doesn't repeat the same patterns as always and release many not so great phones and forget them.
As far as I am concerned, I am still trying to decide myself between the S4 and the One. I really lost my trust with HTC when I got the One S last year, but it is true that the One S was not the main flagship. I just hope the same issues that plagued me with the One S do not show on the One.
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As far as I am concerned, I am still trying to decide myself between the S4 and the One. I really lost my trust with HTC when I got the One S last year, but it is true that the One S was not the main flagship. I just hope the same issues that plagued me with the One S do not show on the One.
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HTC put a lot more effort behind the One than they have in previous flagships, but even so I bet it will see really overdue updates same as always. The good news is customers in the states can just flash the international ROMs as soon as they are released.
Even so, the One has it's kernel source out there. The phone has been out for less than a month in the U.S. and h8rift already has a CM 10.1 alpha out. Cyanogen himself already bought the phone. There are great Sense 5 ROMs out there as well that run way better than anything HTC would release. You can be sure that there will be ROMs out there for KLP very quickly after it's released. So don't worry too much about the phone becoming obsolete, it won't any time soon. The different versions of the 'One _' handsets made for some fragmented development but that's not an issue with this One
The one S got 3-4 good updates.
I have had no problems with any of the updates, each one brought many improvements I found, only two annoying things, the power saver notification and battery chart change.
There is nothing that I can think of that they could improve even further except for camera quality overall and some other wee things like how you expand notifications, which iirc will be improved with android 4.1.2 Of course sense V5 will bring many "wanted" things, but they aren't "needed"
As said, wait until KLP is out and see what the update actually requires/brings and then see what HTC have to say, for all we know KLP might not come out till November......
Samsung haven't provided 4.2.2/new touchwiz to the GS 3 yet either and I can't see them getting it for at least another 1-2 months, possibly even longer due to how much they have crammed into touchwiz
HTC are actually the best when it comes to updates overall too:
http://readwrite.com/2011/01/14/data-shows-what-manufacturers-and-carriers-delay-android-updates
http://www.techhive.com/article/256...es_do_the_best_job_with_android_updates_.html
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/the-checkered-slow-history-of-android-handset-updates/
Yes it is a joke the way that they didn't provide the JB update to the sensation.
Reason HTC didn't go with 4.2 for the one is because it was full of bugs, especially battery drain and plus it would have caused more delays so they stuck with 4.1.2 as it was stable and they could get it sorted out quicker. Supposedly the one X and S will be getting 4.2.2 with sense V5 around June, so the one will/should get that update before then. IMO 4.2.2 is a very minor update and not worth worrying about.
Also, might be worth considering that Samsung have added a ton more stuff to touchwiz now and imo bloated it with a lot of unnecessary stuff and moved further from stock android so updates could take longer where as HTC have moved closer to stock android and sense is less bloated/more minimal than touchwiz now.
Can't believe you even ask this question.. Obviously they will not care about one come next year or may be even 6 months down the line if there is a new flagship.
Sell your current phone buy the new one and move on. Or you have the custom roms if you want to keep the phone for x years.
you guys are forgeting 1 thing regarding HoX , if HTC decides to leave it on JB 4.2.2 and you guys believe you can get sense roms ported ETC you can't because it will most likely need BOOTLOADER UPDATE , without bootloader update you can only dream about getting KLP on HoX if HTC forget about us, i got hox myself and i'll be hugely dissapointed if they drop it with 4.2.2 , simply it has enough ram , more then needed storage , more then needed CPU power and lastly it's a very best 2012 international device.
One thing i must admit , even if they leave us with 4.2.2 it'll have most perfected JB as it already have . compare your HoX vs s3 on JB , the difference is night and day.
However i don't care i'm getting one even if they say it wont get any updates from now on. The design is too damn good to be true , the speed is incredibly and the speakers are strong enough to scare you off each time you receive the msg, or even better in the morning you wont only wake up yourself but your neighbours as well
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you guys are forgeting 1 thing regarding HoX , if HTC decides to leave it on JB 4.2.2 and you guys believe you can get sense roms ported ETC you can't because it will most likely need BOOTLOADER UPDATE , without bootloader update you can only dream about getting KLP on HoX
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No, it won't need a firmware update to get KLP. The reason it was required, temporarily, was because the firmware had changed and the new Sense kernel relied on those changes. After the source was released, it was all good.
Ive been with aamsung since the s3 days. Before i was a sense guy for the longest. Now with samsung waiting ages to release lollipop for a phone that cost me almost 900$ im almost fed up and really want to go another route next time i buy a phone..
Buy a Nexus then and enjoy beta testing? Getting any update is a crapshoot for pretty much any other OEM and varies from phone to phone...
$900. You got ripped off. LoL
Sorry man, just because they don't give your phone an update is not justice to say off with your head. They did not leave you with a broken non functioning phone. Whats next are we gonna put together a class action lawsuit. I still say samsung always has had the best hardware when it comes to phones. That's what intrigued me was the hardware not android. I used to be an HTC guy too back in the day. I switched because samsung phones always outperformed the HTC. This is still true to this date. If you mad cuz they haven't updated to lollipop, well that is just crazy.
I love Samsung, in fact most of my electronics are Samsung....no issues what so ever. FYI....I would've paid $900 with no problem, but it didn't cost no where near that.
Why r u so worried about getting lollipop? It's pretty crappy still. I have 5.0.1 on my Shield tablet it's got a bunch of weird bugs. I also have 5.0.2 on my nexus 5 and it's a piece of shirt now because of it.
Sometimes it's not best to be first. If you want lollipop so bad flash an AOSP ROM and deal with all the bugs just like everyone else is.
I have no issues with house this phone runs on TW. It's way better than either of my Lollipop devices.
The grass always looks greener. But tbh lollipop I'd looking like a huge fail. Hopefully 5.1 will fix a bunch of issues.
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If you want the fastest updates, get a Nexus. If you want spectacular hardware and a polished looked, keep your Samsung.
So is there a magical bug that makes every OEM skinned device a brick when Google releases a new version of android? Is your phone somehow less useful?
Am I the only one who is not anxious for lollipop to drop? I'm perfectly happy with kit Kat at the moment. It was a different story from Gb to ICS back in the Galaxy S2 days.
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Why r u so worried about getting lollipop? It's pretty crappy still. I have 5.0.1 on my Shield tablet it's got a bunch of weird bugs. I also have 5.0.2 on my nexus 5 and it's a piece of shirt now because of it.
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Agreed. Nexus 7 and Shield Tablet. Lollipop is a complete mess. I can't believe they released it at all so far. Disappointed.
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Sigh, some folks get so dramatic over things. Outside of Nexus devices, other OEMs are not significantly different than Samsung. A month or two either way doesn't change the lifetime enjoyment of a device.
Would you rather have a device with an inferior screen, no S-pen, lesser performance, less functionality, a worse camera, etc? The Note 4 has been tops since it was released and will be top dog until the new phones come out at MWC.
Also - Samsung is updating the Note 2 with Lollipop- that's 2.5 years after release. Have other OEMs committed to updating their phones from 2012?
Well let's see. I've been a fan of amhung since the captivate days(galaxy s series)so that pretty much makes me a die hard amhung fan. Will I choose a different brand phone? Probably not. ?
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I love Samsung products. I've become a little bored with there design philosophy but as a whole I think there as good as it gets. I personally could careless how long it takes for the update as long as everything works like it's supposed to and as of right now it does with KitKat. Like others said, there have been a lot of bugs with LP so far and I'm kind of glad there taking there time instead of rushing it and needing to push several updates. If they were to push it and things were messed up, most of the people complaining about it taking so long would then complain about that.
And then when we finally get Lollipop there will be 20 threads about how bad/buggy it is and a bunch of people constantly asking how to flash back to KitKat.
I am using my iPhone 6+ until lollipop is released.
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I don't get all the hate on lollipop. I have it on my N7, had it before my One M7 GPE died and tried it on here. It ran perfect and lag free for me.
However I just enjoy the fingerprint scanner, the full S Pen functions and the one hand use features.
Also WiFi calling is a must for me at work right now.
Post started by someone who once they receive the update will also have something to complain about.
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Ive been with aamsung since the s3 days. Before i was a sense guy for the longest. Now with samsung waiting ages to release lollipop for a phone that cost me almost 900$ im almost fed up and really want to go another route next time i buy a phone..
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So you blame Samsung for not getting Lollipop already? Samsung released Lollipop for most of the international phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/910f-official-lolipop-germany-dbt-t3029508 just an example...perhaps you should find out what is the hold up from your carrier trying to stuff T-Mobile bloat onto Samsung's existing release or any other US Carrier for that matter.
I kn I w its not all samsung but i don't think its fair thst we buy their latest flagship than become last in line to receive the new OS.
Life isn't fair. Nothing is promised to you and Note 3 and S5 users bought the latest flagship before you..