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Nexus One: End of Life (what are you gonna do)

I love my nexus one and yes I was tempted by the nexus s but as we all know internally its just another random device out there. My question is when dual cores come out what are you going to do with your Nexus One?
My plan is to keep my Nexus One at home in the box as my back up phone. Ever so often take it out boot it up and flash it to the lastest version of Android it can handle.

Well I think the n1 is far from its end of life. The only disadvantage it will have over the dual cores is ability to run advanced games. Unless google makes major ui changes like how running live wallpapers made the g1 look more like a last gen device, then we are good
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I don't understand, how much money do people spend on phones in this forum?
I'm hoping to use my Nexus for at least 2 more years. There is absolutely nothing out or coming out soon that seems like a large enough jump for me to justify buying another phone.

Clarkster said:
I don't understand, how much money do people spend on phones in this forum?
I'm hoping to use my Nexus for at least 2 more years. There is absolutely nothing out or coming out soon that seems like a large enough jump for me to justify buying another phone.
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same here...
i'm actually just waiting on purolator to come to my door to give me my nexus one...
if i want to play games, i'll use my xbox... haha.
or i'll get a tablet.
i'm interested in seeing what motorola is going to show us... definitely putting off on buying a tablet until then.

Imperial.mack said:
Well I think the n1 is far from its end of life. The only disadvantage it will have over the dual cores is ability to run advanced games. Unless google makes major ui changes like how running live wallpapers made the g1 look more like a last gen device, then we are good
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That just might be what Honeycomb is. Speculation but we all pretty much know that it will bring a huge change to how the UI works.
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I plan to keep my Nexus One until early 2012 because frankly, I can't afford to replace my phone every time something faster comes out.

Jep4444 said:
I plan to keep my Nexus One until early 2012 because frankly, I can't afford to replace my phone every time something faster comes out.
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Same. Unless something awesome comes out on a really good contract. I do like the look of that LG Star/2X, and I imagine 'better' manufacturers will come out with their similar spec'd offerings shortly, which is why I have no real interest in the Nexus S.
At that point, the N1 will be sold for whatever I can get for it

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I plan to keep my Nexus One until early 2012 because frankly, I can't afford to replace my phone every time something faster comes out.
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See I can afford to replace my phone with the latest and greatest the thing is there isn't anything worth buying. I play games on my computer, not my phone so the Nexus S doesn't benefit me in any way.
I'll dump my N1 when something ground breaking comes out (dual core might be it but would need support for it) or when my N1 feels slow like my sons G1 does compared to my N1.

I'll upgrade to a Nexus S once they're free (or $50) on contract, and a decent car dock is shipping. The N1 car dock leaves a lot to be desired, but I wouldn't be without it.
I bought my wife a NS to replace her broken G1, and frankly I'm amazed at how much I like it over the N1. It's ridiculously fast and the 4" screen is a lot better for my middle-aged eyes. My N1 gets so laggy at times I just want to smash it, and I've never had that happen with the NS.
It baffles me why they can't release accessories like car and desk docks when these phones come out, instead of waiting 3-6 months.
I might give some thought to running an AOSP ROM on a Galaxy S, but with the G1 and N1 I've really preferred the bugs in Google's official releases over the bugs in the other ROMs I've tried. Right now my N1 has FRG83D+root and I'm looking forward to the official 2.3 update.

Bicster_ said:
I bought my wife a NS to replace her broken G1, and frankly I'm amazed at how much I like it over the N1. It's ridiculously fast and the 4" screen is a lot better for my middle-aged eyes. My N1 gets so laggy at times I just want to smash it, and I've never had that happen with the NS.
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The irony is, that NS CPU performance-wise is about equal to N1. Hence it must be the difference between 2.2 and 2.3. Or you have some funny background tasks on your N1.

I dont plan on upgrading until something that's clearly a generation leap comes out. Im used to upgrading every year but haven't found anything worth upgrading to yet
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futuregerald said:
I dont plan on upgrading until something that's clearly a generation leap comes out. Im used to upgrading every year but haven't found anything worth upgrading to yet
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I had the same problem with my N95

I dont upgrade every time something new comes out my upgrade was there for the g1 when it came out Oct two years ago. My contract went up in Oct of this year currently out of contract. I bought my N1 off of someone from Clist for 320 back in May. I figured since I have the upgrade why not use it and put my N1 in a safe place where it wont get hurt

In the current scenario , there's absolutely no reason to justify an upgrade . Gingerbread based ROMs will appear soon & I am absolutely clear in my mind that even honeycomb can be modified to run smoothly on our N1's albeit some overclocking might be necessary with higher versions of android . But thats not the case with gingerbread & Nexus S is a complete failure from my point of view as a Google Developer / Flagship device.
I am not willing to upgrade for atleast one more year .

Can I have one fact about NS CPU being faster than N1's?
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I am eyeing the Motorola Olympus because of build quality and tegra dual core. But I would have gladly bought the Nexus S if it had two mics and AT&T 3g bands. I can't figure out why these GSM phones aren't all pentaband these days. The antenna chips are usually capable but they leave out key parts like certain cheap amplifiers that keep the capability off. It's really annoying.

draugaz said:
The irony is, that NS CPU performance-wise is about equal to N1. Hence it must be the difference between 2.2 and 2.3. Or you have some funny background tasks on your N1.
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the 1ghz hummingbird is similar to the 1ghz snapdragon in the n1, however the GPU is many times faster... for anything that involves graphics, the GPU will help out immensely.

drive2droad said:
In the current scenario , there's absolutely no reason to justify an upgrade . Gingerbread based ROMs will appear soon & I am absolutely clear in my mind that even honeycomb can be modified to run smoothly on our N1's albeit some overclocking might be necessary with higher versions of android.
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N1 performance-wise is still on the very top of the smartphones. Yes, the touch screen digitizer is not perfect and the GPU is not the quickest in the world, but for the OS itself it is pretty much a non issue.
If N1 is not powerful enough to run the honeycomb, then very little of todays phones are (in fact none). Instantly making all of them obsolete.
Of course it is entirely another thing if goog will want to invest into N1 development.

No intentions of upgrading until maybe this time next year. Right now it meets everyone of my needs. Still having fun with it. The flaws most folks point out generally either don't bother me or I don't notice them on a day to day use. The only phone I was torn on getting was a G2 even that was more because I had a G1 and loved that phone. I rode that one into the ground. 4-5 warranty trade outs. Still have it rooted running CM as a protable game system for my 3 year old son.
Every phone that has come out so far has been slightly better. When it is time to retire the N1 it will be for something 1-2 generations better than what's available now.

I've always said my nexus one is worthy of a permanent collection device since It's nicer than most phones. Besides I don't have any backup emergency device so I'm gonna keep it in case of emergency backup device.
Normally I sell my device after 6 months for 50% of what I paid and use that cash for my next device.

Nexus One, still worth it?

Hey guys,
need a bit help, well technically my friend does. hes on the market for a new phone and hes quite in love with my nexus one (im def not gonna sell it though! haha). The only concern is whether the nexus one is too old now. He loves the build quality of the nexus one but is worried if its money well spent. He found a mint tmo version for about 320, but at the same time hes wondering if he should just wait and jump to att to buy a atrix or even an iphone 4. So bias aside, is the nexus one still worthy of a 300+ price tag? honestly?
i know its googles baby but what if google does what apple did with their 1st gen iphone. what if 2.3 will be the last upgrade available before google end of lifes the n1.

honestly does your friend give two craps if the nexus one gets an update or not? prob not. anyway my frient recently asked me the same thing, he loved my nexus one and was gonna buy one. he ended up not gettting anything but he was about to do it and found one near him on craigslist and all.
i dont think its a bad idea, i still think its the best phone out there i cant find one i like better yet which is why i keep mine. great build, awesome looking, color trackball, where else can that be found?

I wouldn't sell my phone or recommend a Nexus One to a friend knowing that the power button would certainly fail and the touchscreen will give them issues.
For those reasons i couldn't recommend this phone to anybody!

I switched phones every month for a year, everything having some flaw. I've had this thing since June. No touchscreen issue, no power button issue. Pure Google, piece of art. Get it, keep it, love it.

I just bought my 2nd one (the At&t version). I first bought one on the first day they released the ATT version, but then I sold it to switch carriers. I've been back on ATT for about 6 months now and I've missed my N1, so I just ordered another one from eBay.
I've had the Captivate and the Surround and I still want my N1 back.
It should be here today

DirkGently1: if it was how you're saying, the N1 should have been dropped out the market long ago. I've got mine and got not a single problem (but the touch axis problem, which is not felt not playing on my phone).
I'd suggest the N1, because it doesn't cost like the Nexus S, but still is Google Experience. If only the Nexus S had been pumped up a little more, I'd think about it as my next phone, but dual cores are behind the corner, Nexus S will be overtaken very soon... but still I'd prefere a Nexus S 'cause it's GE.

The N1 is a great phone and I still love mine BUT if I were in the market for a new phone right now I would wait till the dual cores comes out which should be very soon.

RogerPodacter said:
honestly does your friend give two craps if the nexus one gets an update or not?
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its not high on his list but he would prefer something that isn't going to be neglected on updates.
like you guys stated, the dual cores is what hes worried about. with it being so close around the corner, would it be smart investing in year old (while advanced, its still a year old) tech? he just loves the design and quality of the nexus one but hes not sure if that is worth sacrificing the processer and other upgrades in different departments.
im just stuck on whether i should encourage him getting this phone, which is no doubt awesome but old, or wait it out.

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its not high on his list but he would prefer something that isn't going to be neglected on updates.
like you guys stated, the dual cores is what hes worried about. with it being so close around the corner, would it be smart investing in year old (while advanced, its still a year old) tech? he just loves the design and quality of the nexus one but hes not sure if that is worth sacrificing the processer and other upgrades in different departments.
im just stuck on whether i should encourage him getting this phone, which is no doubt awesome but old, or wait it out.
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If he really likes the design and there's nothing else out there he wants, then I would say go for it for that price.
The way I look at it is if he can get a year out of it and be happy with it, then there will be better things out there a year from now anyway.

I've had my N1 since day-2 (had to wait for overnight shipping! ). It's more integrated into my life now, then when I first got it.
...But, I'm definitely starting to keep my eye out for the next thing. The N1 is already starting to show signs of being passed on from Google (ie the current delay on getting official Gingerbread to us!), whereas the Nexus S is the current poster-boy.
If your friend requires no-contract phone and ~$300 is his budget? Well, that's just about a no-brainer that the N1 is recommended.
Other than that, I'd tell them to hold until the Duals become a little more prevalent and then start looking... Who knows, maybe the Nexus Two with Dual-Core (get it, it's a Nexus TWO and it has TWO cores! ) will come out

I love my N1, but wouldn't pay $300 for it right now. It's nice to hear that the resale value is still up there (speaks volumes for HTC's build quality) but honestly, there are much better options out there right now.
If your friend is out of contract, he can pick up a G2 for free from T-Mobile with a 2-year contract. Other than the flimsy keyboard hinge, it beats the Nexus One in almost every category spec-wise. If you're worried about updates - G2 is just as unlockable and rootable as N1, with support from custom ROMs nowhere near stopping.
If your friend doesn't want a carrier-subsidized phone, then his best bet would be waiting a few months until the next generation of dual-core handsets start showing up en masse. Yes, they will be almost twice the price of a used N1 at that point, but that would be money well spent.

Dual cores are fine and dandy, but I would not jump on the first available models.
Nobody knows how is the battery usage or is there are any other esotheric bugs introduced by the new SMP platform.

draugaz said:
Dual cores are fine and dandy, but I would not jump on the first available models.
Nobody knows how is the battery usage or is there are any other esotheric bugs introduced by the new SMP platform.
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Good point. It's always a good idea to wait until the early adopters report in with issues. Power savings of dual-core processors is a fact on laptops and nettops, but yet remains to be proven on the mobile chip architectures. It's good to see manufacturers shipping larger batteries too (1930 mAh on Atrix), but only time will tell.

I bought a N1 right when it came out and loved it, then I got an hd2 and its the best phone I've ever had period, but the nexus one is definitely one amazing phone

Chahk said:
Good point. It's always a good idea to wait until the early adopters report in with issues. Power savings of dual-core processors is a fact on laptops and nettops, but yet remains to be proven on the mobile chip architectures. It's good to see manufacturers shipping larger batteries too (1930 mAh on Atrix), but only time will tell.
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Well, there is a concept of saving power by going multi-core and undervoting/underclocking at the same time. In theory you get more mips per watt.
But it has several relatively major ifs and buts.
First, you need to have something significant to process. The smartphone apps ten to be quite lean on processing anyway. Nobody uses their phones for prolonged number crunching sessions, the processing demand comes in short "spikes".
Second, those spikes should be parallelizable. Which is far from granted.
Third, you need to save more power than you burn on second chip. It is not only CPU itself, but also all this common glue logic around it which gets more complicated than in single core case.
Which altogether does not look like a sure deal to me. It can easily happen, that such dualcore device will greatly improve on video decoding battery life, but get even more miserable than usual standby times. Huge Attrix battery somehow does not look like a good sign to me.
In my opinion the hottest candidate for the second core would be a garbage collector. Which (if properly implemented) could dramatically improve the overall "smoothness" of the phone.
But something similar to the hyperthreading would do the trick too.

As of N1: I bought it when my Magic was starting going slooooow on recent versions of Android. My Nexus One is still highly responsive, and this is what I personally need for my daily usage. And I love to program tools on it: the screen is not small nor too big, it's just "perfect".

I think it depends on what you really want. In fact, I also thought the price of N1 is a little expense. But I still bought it since I really like it, no matter the appearance or the hardware configuration. For me, it's not too old, but your friend need make the decision by himself~~~

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Well, there is a concept of saving power by going multi-core and undervoting/underclocking at the same time. In theory you get more mips per watt.
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There is another feature of these new dual-core chips, is that one of the cores can be toggled on demand. No sense in burning both cores if you're just checking e-mail or syncing calendars/social statuses, but a resource-hungry media app or a 3D game for example would spin up that 2nd core.
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Huge Attrix battery somehow does not look like a good sign to me.
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I'm feeling the exact opposite. Manufacturers are starting to realize that people actually use their phones for longer periods of time, and no matter how power-efficient you make them, a larger battery is always a good idea.

Chahk said:
I love my N1, but wouldn't pay $300 for it right now. It's nice to hear that the resale value is still up there (speaks volumes for HTC's build quality) but honestly, there are much better options out there right now.
If your friend is out of contract, he can pick up a G2 for free from T-Mobile with a 2-year contract. Other than the flimsy keyboard hinge, it beats the Nexus One in almost every category spec-wise. If you're worried about updates - G2 is just as unlockable and rootable as N1, with support from custom ROMs nowhere near stopping.
If your friend doesn't want a carrier-subsidized phone, then his best bet would be waiting a few months until the next generation of dual-core handsets start showing up en masse. Yes, they will be almost twice the price of a used N1 at that point, but that would be money well spent.
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i dunno nexus vs g2 i take the nexus still, g2 is bulky and laggy compared to N1 plus with tzones/web2go its a no brainer... N1 son!

Bought the desire hd a few months back but still im on my n1... dhd cant match the speed n pure google experience... luv the n1 sooo much i'll go so far as to say its the best phone i have ever owned...

Phone of the Year!

Galaxy S II the envied one.
How many of you here have noticed the tides change. This phone is really the hottest phone on the planet right now. I remember a couple months back how everyone was talking about the sensation/ evo3d, optimus 2x and 3d, people were in love with tegra 2 and in a couple months it becomes the fastest phone with best screen anyone has used according to many reputable gadget sites and blogs. How many people think this is the hottest phone this year? It has destroyed all other dual core competition in the android arena. Do you think this is going to be the first huge hit for android world wide? How many think GSII has pushed android to aa whole new level?!

Hail SGS2.
It is gonna sell hot cakes.

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Galaxy S II the envied one.
How many of you here have noticed the tides change. This phone is really the hottest phone on the planet right now. I remember a couple months back how everyone was talking about the sensation/ evo3d, optimus 2x and 3d, people were in love with tegra 2 and in a couple months it becomes the fastest phone with best screen anyone has used according to many reputable gadget sites and blogs. How many people think this is the hottest phone this year? It has destroyed all other dual core competition in the android arena. Do you think this is going to be the first huge hit for android world wide? How many think GSII has pushed android to aa whole new level?!
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I think you're in love pal.
Well,it has taken Android to new heights,that's for sure.But wait,we still have a long way to go.

Yeh i can see gs2 going furthere with some updates. But it is getting alto of press, that's always a good thing
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Right now it could be the best one but we still have 6 months to go. There is iPhone 5 looming around the corner. Lets wait and see what they have to bring to the table. Although I am Android till the end it is still always nice to see what Apple has to bring because they quite often bring something new and "revolutionary" to the competition.
SGS2 is good but it is kind of like "just" beefed up and perfected version of SGS.
It is actually quite interesting with Android phones because there doesn't seem to be anything new and great coming. Although I am suspecting that for christmas sales there must be something great

SGS2 is a fine piece of kit and a great advert for how good Android can be. The only thorn in the side for me is the silly Tegra fragmentation - and gaming is where the SGS2 could really shine due to the screen and cpu grunt. I know we have Chainfire but it's not the same.
Funny thing is I dislike all things Apple but I can see myself getting the next iPhone.

It's definitely a very good phone. Yes, and it's surely the best dual-core out there. Like someone mentioned, Apple will launch their version of dual core soon. We will wait and see how that goes. I have a feeling that the Apple going to use the Arc camera module.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/02/sony-ceo-casually-mentions-hes-supplying-cameras-to-apple/
I think SGS3 would be launched around Q1 2012 (speculation and some rumors in the internet) http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/30/samsung-teases-4g-tablet-for-2011-galaxy-s-iii-in-first-half-of/
I am expecting the SGS3 to have the super-duper-uber screen from the new OLED plant that Samsung just got operational and sort out some of the issues with GS2. GS2 rectified some of the issues with SGS - like GPS, Pentile matrix, not-so-good TW3 and improved on their strong points - hardware. GS3 "should" be something revolutionary.
I believe that GS3 will be something which would totally blow the market away. Sammy had already shown they can make great dual core device. That would (imho) represent a crowning glory.

i have never understood how people call thing best of the year since we are only half way through it..
Its like when i hear ads on the radio..Fast Five: "BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR".... 1month later X-Men First Class: "BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR"
.. and when transformers 3 comes out.. i will hear the same thing.
but yeah.. i would say SGSII is the best phone out right now.. but not best of the year..

Phone truly does take Android to new heights. First real phone that combats the iPhone's "smoothness" or fluidity, not to mention it looks stunning!
If other phones follow in its footsteps...Android will reign supreme!
And I think it is definitely the best phone of the year, hands-down - seeing as 3D is still (mainly) viewed as a gimmick (plus they're really fat)
HAVING SAID THAT, I'm excluding the Nexus 3/4G and whichever OTHER quad-core devices that are coming this fall. But I imagine quad-core will mainly be the "topic" of 2012, as dual-core has been for 2011.

and like i said.. we still have 6months of the year left.. how can any one say this is the best phone of 2011?

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and like i said.. we still have 6months of the year left.. how can any one say this is the best phone of 2011?
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Because people know, what is coming out. Films aren't like phone. Few phones come out, that can ever contend for the best phone of the year.
There aren't meant to be any big releases now, until the end of the year, in which there's no point in saying "BEST PHONE FOR 2011!" (for a month of two) as we move into 2012.

Lots of time left this year indeed. But is there anything really big on the horizon, except for next iPhone? And this phone is called one of the more "future proof" ones. Lets see what the times bring...

SGSII is the best so far

I don't see anyone pushing out anything better. The next iphone might be a worthy contender, but don't forget, it still has iOS *shudders*
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I don't see anyone pushing out anything better. The next iphone might be a worthy contender, but don't forget, it still has iOS *shudders*
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+1. the only contenders are the iPhone 5 (but the whole iOS Android think, kinda separates the two)
and the Nexus 3. If rumoured to have a 720p, 4.3"/4.5" display AND a quad-core KAL-EL - that will be the phone of the year for 2011 (or what's left of it) and 2012....until the S3/HTC's equivelant.
But there's no point crowning a phone, phone of the year, for 2 months. :/

Don't get me wrong, i love my Samsung Galaxy S 2, the specs and tests might recommend it as the best device of the year, until now, but i have another top in mind: "2011 dual-processor smartphone with the fewest flaws". Maybe someone collects all the weak spots of S 2, Optimus 2x and Sensation and makes a non-biased comparison to see which device wins from this point of view. Although i think S 2 was the best choice for me, it's still far from my concept of a perfect phone.

3 of my friends wer so impressed they jumped ship two from iphone 4 and one from nokia n8 and we all have this phone more of my mates are going to get it when ther upgrade is due
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Doesn't matter if a better phone comes out, the SGS2 is a significant milestone. The iPhone was a "phone of the year" kind of phone, and so was the Blackberry before that. Were the iPhone 2, 3, 4, 5, etc. "phone's of the year"? No, not really. SGS2 is where all the most important pieces came together for Android - processor, display, system integration, 3rd part apps, to where out of the box, it is a powerful tool, it SOLVES THE PROBLEM. There will be better phones on the horizon, but the SGS2 is the phone, like the Blackberry and iPhone, that redefined the industry.

The Sensation is possibly the most comparable phone to the SGS2 at the moment and seems to be getting a lot of attention. Some would say the HTC is better. To my eyes, it's ugly sitting next to the slim, sleek lines of the SGS2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2fAf5QC3SQ

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Hail SGS2.
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That's impressive, but I have no hot cakes to sell.

G2 Upgrade

So, I assume everyone browsing this forum has the G2. I really am still in love with this device. The main reason is the physical keyboard. I also know though that there are a lot of phones coming out that will probably blow the phone away.
So what are you guys doing with the releases of HTC One series? Also, what about phones from other carriers?
I thought it would be good to hear some opinions because I am carefully considering the HTC One S with TMobile.

The HTC One S looks like a nice device- the S4 seems to have mostly better specs than the quad core international version.
For me, however, it is missing a few things: microSD card and NFC. If it had more internal memory, then the microSD card would be a non-issue. If I am going get a new phone, then I would rather get a phone with newer features (NFC), rather than a slightly better phone than I have now. It would be like getting a phone that didn't have a front facing camera or bluetooth.
I like HTC phones, but I think the One S is a little too lean on features. I expect that there will be better phones later this year that have all the features I want.

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The HTC One S looks like a nice device- the S4 seems to have mostly better specs than the quad core international version.
For me, however, it is missing a few things: microSD card and NFC. If it had more internal memory, then the microSD card would be a non-issue. If I am going get a new phone, then I would rather get a phone with newer features (NFC), rather than a slightly better phone than I have now. It would be like getting a phone that didn't have a front facing camera or bluetooth.
I like HTC phones, but I think the One S is a little too lean on features. I expect that there will be better phones later this year that have all the features I want.
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Yeah, what do you think about the Nexus?

The Galaxy Nexus? That seems OK, but since the dual core S4 phones are announced, it seems a little dated. If I had to chose, I think I would wait for a better phone. If I was still running a donut rom on my G1, then the galaxy nexus or the One S would be an easy choice. But since I'm rocking my G2 with Audacity, I would rather wait for a phone that has all the features I'm looking for. Hopefully, T-mo will come out with a worthy phone in the G series.

Do you know what phones are supporting the Snapdragon S4? I thought that was a long time away? I haven't been in the mobile phone circle for some time now.

That makes 2 of us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
There are only a handful of phones and tablets that have been announced for the S4 - One s and XL, and EVO 4G LTE. At this point, my dream phone will be released late 2012. The S5 platform is a 28 nm process, so waiting for the S4 will have a lot of added value compared to the current state of the art 45 nm process.
For comparison, our beloved G2/DZ is a 45 nm SoC, while the Tegra 2 and 3 series are 40 nm processes. So 28 nm is the next milestone. Of course, process size is not the only measure of a phone, but I would use it as a benchmark to see how much of an upgrade you'll be getting.
I was pretty set on getting a One S, but the more I look into it, the more I want to wait for a bigger upgrade across the board. The one exception is size- the G2 is a great size and I don't won't to drift towards the phablet area. I want a cool phone, not a half-shrunken laptop.

Im wonder why the G2 is still the last worthy qwerty phone tmo has had. It sucks because when i needed a phone the G2x had just come out and i was upgrading from mytouch slide. I love my G2x but i miss having a keyboard. Now i am due for a full upgrade and still tmo has no worthy qwerty phones.

Yeah I am in love with the form factor of the G2. I also love the physical keyboard. I think a lot of users prefer that option, so I wish they would make more of these options available.
I do wish the G2 was a little bigger though. I don't think that phones like the Nexus or One X are too big, they are not the Galaxy Note after all.
I think I am going to hold off for the end of 2012 for multiple reasons. I will be more willing to upgrade then.
edit: I am actually waiting on TMobile to send me a replacement phone. Mine only boots in to the HTC screen and then never goes past. They offered me a Sidekick for free instead, but I don't know why that would be much better. I guess I research the ICS roms available and move that way until the end of the year. Thanks for the link, and the input.

@gee_one the architecture doesn't really increase performance, at least not directly. It does lower operating temperature and power consumption, which may or may not allow for even more overclocking, and thus more performance.
@joe333x have you tried the htc doubleshot (branded as mytouch4g slide). It's a fast phone and perhaps a decent upgrade from the g2/dz. Although I think it'd be better to wait for a phone with the newer s4/tegra soc's.
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@gee_one the architecture doesn't really increase performance, at least not directly. It does lower operating temperature and power consumption, which may or may not allow for even more overclocking, and thus more performance.
@joe333x have you tried the htc doubleshot (branded as mytouch4g slide). It's a fast phone and perhaps a decent upgrade from the g2/dz. Although I think it'd be better to wait for a phone with the newer s4/tegra soc's.
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So if I read tech specs correctly, you want see much difference from the cpu the HTC One S offers and the phones in the next year or so?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the One S is going to offer the Qualcomm S
4 Krait SoC, right? That's definitely going to last long enough till you upgrade.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the One S is going to offer the Qualcomm S
4 Krait SoC, right? That's definitely going to last long enough till you upgrade.
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You mean an additional 2 years?

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Do you know what phones are supporting the Snapdragon S4? I thought that was a long time away? I haven't been in the mobile phone circle for some time now.
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The One XL (US AT&T version of the One X) has the S4, and that phone is speculated to be released in the next few weeks. Some folks on XDA are even hoping for an announcement this week, and a release date next week (4/22?). An early test device has already been benchmarked by an AT&T employee, and it smokes every other Android device around, including tablets:
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-xl-benchmark-snapdragon-s4-tegra-3-67678/

if they come up whit One Z, and if it will look cool, might get.

I never thought I would say this, but I think I'll be able to live without the hardware keyboard. I won't qualify for the full upgrade subsidy until the end of September, and while the One S looks like a pretty nice phone, I'm much more interested in what Samsung is going to announce at the beginning of May. Then again, by the end of September, there may be something even better.

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I never thought I would say this, but I think I'll be able to live without the hardware keyboard. I won't qualify for the full upgrade subsidy until the end of September, and while the One S looks like a pretty nice phone, I'm much more interested in what Samsung is going to announce at the beginning of May. Then again, by the end of September, there may be something even better.
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Yeah, I have full upgrade as of now, so I am trying to read up on the One S and the SGS3 for now. I think the lack of hardware keyboard will not be too much of a big deal, even though I will miss it. I do like that the SGS3 should be bigger, but overall I am interested in processing power and what will last the longest.
There is no information on who will receive the SGS3 is there? I have started to just live with the fact that there will be new, better technology in the mobile world every few months, so I may just be going with the One S. But Samsung will release more only a week or so after the One S release, so I may wait it out all the same.
Decisions, decisions.

At bare minimum, the krait will definitely last 2 years before it ends up in a DZ esque situation, performance wise, that is. Right now, it seems that it's the fastest chip around, and I really don't see a how android is going to need faster performing devices for the forseeable future.
The One S would personally last me 2 and a half, maybe 3 years. I'm guessing 2 years for the average joe. The krait is a very promising soc and will last for a while. Although, I'd still wait to see what else HTC is going to offer. Still hoping for a keyboard device, heh...
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Yeah, I am awaiting a keyboard phone also, but with my current financial situation I might need to hold off until the end of the year to see what they release and what the SGS3 looks like.

That is in fact the better course of action. Right now it's a really bad time to buy a smartphone..
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I think the biggest draw for me will be stock ICS- when there is a new T-mo phone that has stock ICS, I'll be there. I can flex on the small things like sd card and physical keyboard, but Sense is a no-go.

[Q] Is it worth ?

Hi folks,
I was planing to buy the N4, but, seriously, after almost 6 months of the launch date, I don't know if it still is a great buy or if I should wait for the next wave of cellphones coming this spring (and if there are good phones upcoming).
Any clues on a better cellphone than N4 ? (I was also thinking about the Optimus, the one with the best hardware specs, but I have the same doubt, is it worth right now?)
Thanks!

I say if price is a concern then the N4 is the most bang for your buck.
I honestly did not need this thing but I am glad that I got it (coming from G2X running CM7).
Running stock unrooted (for now) and still happy (odd, I know)

Naa...
The Google I/O Come In May so wait two monthes for the X Phone or next nexus ...

From the phone that I have, I shouldn't even think and buy it right away (I'm using an old HTC Diamond touch, was using a BB but a thief robbed me 2 months ago...), but I'm not really sure if I buy it today, tomorrow I won't be sad due to a launch of a new version or really better phone, I mean, it's been around 6 months since the current generation of smartphones started (quad-cores @1.5Ghz [S4] 2GB ram), I wonder if the next gen (either 8-core or @2.5 or S5 or more ram, or even better video processors) will be launched really soon or will take at last more 6 months or so..
Anyone that has more information and is more into it, know something or have any hint on what to do ?

@Omer, that is my biggest concern, I wonder if they will really launch the next X Phone there (since they said that it isn't time yet for a new Nexus) and since I saw some news saying that the X-Phone won't be topmost hardware but will be the better price/hardware equivalency, I wonder if it will be really better than the upcoming Samsung S4 or perpahps the next gen upcoming HTC phone.

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From the phone that I have, I shouldn't even think and buy it right away (I'm using an old HTC Diamond touch, was using a BB but a thief robbed me 2 months ago...), but I'm not really sure if I buy it today, tomorrow I won't be sad due to a launch of a new version or really better phone, I mean, it's been around 6 months since the current generation of smartphones started (quad-cores @1.5Ghz [S4] 2GB ram), I wonder if the next gen (either 8-core or @2.5 or S5 or more ram, or even better video processors) will be launched really soon or will take at last more 6 months or so..
Anyone that has more information and is more into it, know something or have any hint on what to do ?
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And what do you want to do with an 8 core processor and more than 2 gigs of RAM? Dude, seriously. I can't even imagine how to use the Nexus while 2 gigs of RAM or all four cores at max frequency except for weird games with, for a phone, great graphics but generally bad controls.
That said I think the manufacturers should start focussing on other things than processors and RAM. Today's generation of phones got enough resources. It seems that in the future we will see big improvements in the phones displays. See 1080p and flexible displays. Especially flexible displays could really change the way we use smart phones but I doubt we will see that in 2013.
Just wait what manufacturers show on MWC. Then think about if you really need the ridiciulous specs shown there and furthermore think about the fact that the N4 will be supported by Google for at least two years.
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First of all, it's been exactly 4 months since the release, not 6.
If you keep the mentality of "waiting for the next best thing" you'll never buy anything because there's always a next best thing around the corner. Whatever phone you decide to buy, it's not gonna be the greatest thing for more than a few months and you'll just have to live with that.
There's already the wave of 5", 1080p, 13MP phones coming out, but the reason why the N4 is still attractive is all those new phones will still cost 600+ off contract.
No one's stopping you from waiting another 6 months, but that's 6 months you could've been enjoying a good phone. I had one before and that HTC Diamond is some hot garbage.

Yep I was thinking about this 2 things too, what will be the upgrade in Phone X / next Nexus ?
Google usually do have major differences between the releases, so I'm really curious about the next phone, I'm wondering if the features that this new one gonna have will be amazing (it doens't really need to be better proc. or ram, as you said, we currently don't even use it all), but will be the next "awesome feature", and I'm worried to buy now beucase there seems to be so little time left for the next wave that really holds me back of buying it today.
Btw, @100eyes that is another concern, the price, from the leaks, and news and blabla, it seems that Phone X will be coming with a lower price basis.
The mistery on it is holding me more than anything, if I already knew some of the new features, probably I would buy today the N4 as it seem to be more than good enough for me (I have a N7 and I love the proc and all the things, and it is slower than the N4 LG)
Btw, about the release date, the wide release was 4 months agora (end of october) but the first release to a restricted public and testing public was 6 months ago, I'm talking about knowing what you gonna get and not what I'll really have my hands on in 1 or 2 months, I was planning on a max 4 months from now timegap.
Anyway, those 2 answers were pretty good, this topic is more to make a discussion of the real value than to make me decide hehe

Get the Nexus 4, you won't regret!

I say pull the trigger. coming from a G2x as well I couldnt be happier with rooted stock. All of the threads you see around here with people complaining are either
a) legitimate issues that can only be resolved by RMA. Its very possible to receive a faulty unit.
b) complete and utter retardation.
The threads complaining about "washed" out colors and other things such as that are completely bias and you really shouldnt let that effect your decision. Hope that helps!