Guys, I've got a question.
I live in Germany and I've just installed the official ICS version over the air (4.0.3, LPY kernel). I have always been on stock roms before and have zero experiences in flashing custom roms whatsoever, but I have never been really content with some things about TouchWiz, so I decided to change to custom roms if Samsung's ICS does not suit my taste as well, which is the case.
Because of that and because of the issues with LPY, I decided I want to go back to gingerbread and go to Cyanogenmod9 or something else (do not really now anything about those, will just have to try them all out).
Since my English is not too great, and since I felt noone straight out answered this question, I want to make sure that I got this right.
First, wiping is not safe on LPY. Recovery mode is not either. Also, this so-called 'CWM' is dangerous as well.
1) From how I understood things, for flashing to other, custom roms, one uses either CWM or Odin. Is this correct?
2) CWM should not be used with LPY, while Odin seems to have no issues with LPY (at least none we know of), is this true?
3) Therefore, I could use Odin without issues, right? I know that noone can guarantee that nothing will happen, but I want to take the safest option.
4) It seems there are two versions of Odion, one for your device and one for your computer. Which one should I use?
5) How exactly do I flash roms with Odin anyway? I find it a bit hard to cope with the xda-forums, every thread name seems so bloated to me, making it really hard for me to find what I am looking for, so I could not really find a guide for that up until now.
Thanks in advance.
Hey mate, welcome to this board!
Since you´ve said that english isn´t your strength, my advice would be to check android-hilfe.de or pocket-pc.ch, where all theses topics have been discussed and explained in german as well! And as gorgeous as XDA is: the mentioned boards are very kind and very helpful as well!
Don't worry. I have problems expressing myself, but I have no problems understanding English text. I feel like there are more people here who can help me out. They are barely talking about the kernel issue on the German forums.
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you'll have to forgive if this is posted elsewhere but i haven't found it if it is, I'm new to this scene as i used to be used to the old apple stuff where i was quite happy jailbreaking etc. but now i have a nexus s and i'm quite happy with it and i've updated it to 2.3.3 no problems,
but now i'm a little confused/unsure. I am happy with the stock firmware but i'd like diffrent themes having looked around i see that to install them i need to install the CM7 rom but I've seen various roms some that need rooting and some that seem not to.
I've also seen a 2.3.3 rom thats a stock deodexed rom and a deodexed-voodoo-root rom. But whats the diffrence and which do i need etc.
sorry to sound like a complete idiot but this is all new to me and i'm trying to learn and get the best out of my phone, all advice is welcome
First off, all 3rd party ROMs will require root to "flash" (the android term for installing). You'll find a lot of information about all the ROMs, themes and kernels currently available for the NS here but the short answer to your question is that a deodexed rom is one which can be themed. If it has Voodoo, Netarchy, Trinity, or Honity listed what is being referred to is a custom kernel.
I'm also assuming you're not currently rooted and on that previous link you'll find a list of almost all of the rooting methods currently available (save for SuperBoot...I think I omitted that one by accident). Basically, all of the info you need is on that thread and if you have other questions I'm happy to help you but for now I think I've answered most everything.
Well with all the hype going on about custom (and sometimes stock) firmwares. I thought I would start a discussion and Perhaps a poll to see if you are using stock or custom ROMs.
As for my 2 cents: Samsung makes great hardware (at least to my experience) but sinks it down to sleep with the fishies with poor software support including bad very bad software suites (like Kies or Media studio the latter which installed a nasty rootkit on my laptop believe it or not for DRM), prematurely axing support to its newly launched devices (I remember hacking my samsung MP3 with korean firmware as I was really angry at samsung for axing the device 2 months after its release whats up with that ).
So what about you: Do u use custom ROMs or stick to late to almost never released stock ROMs?
Stock rom.
It does what I want. Internet-games-programs. It is fast and good.
I do not see a reason to go with a custom rom.
I use modaco. because its sooooo fast.
Overcome. Hands down the best rom/kernel IMHO.
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okay ... dumb question ... i've just ordered a Tab from T-Mobile, should have it Monday or Tuesday, so ... just what is a custom ROM/Kernal going to do for me?
Thanks,
pat----
Im sticking with stock atm...
As posted above, it does what i want.
Im on Overcome 1.3, undervolted, not overclocked
what it does for you is it removes bloatware, includes fixes to known bugs that samsung has not addressed with a proper firmware update, allows for overclocking and undervolting if you're into that, formats the file system to EXT4 making IO faster, installs a full backup and restore facility from recovery, and provides better battery life*
quadrant score from original firmware: 1000-1200
quadrant score from Overcome 1.3 no overclock: 1690
so yeah, custom IS better than stock until samsung gets all these tweaks into their official ROMs.
(*I don't know how it does that, but it does )
It should be said that in reality the split isn't just between stock and custom, but stock, "unreleased', and custom.
Most of the custom ROMs you can find here are based on Samsung's own unreleased test/dev builds (e.g. MoDaCo is based on JMI, Overcome is based on JMK). Even in their "raw" form, these unreleased ROMs are far better than those that actually ship on the device (BEWARE LOCKED BOOTLOADERS IF YOU ARE THINKING OF FLASHING ONE!!!).
If you take say Rotohammers build, it is stock JMI (JMK now?), without the locked bootloaders and pre-rooted. MoDaCo and Overcome go quite a bit further as they have completely rebuilt kernels and are tweaked for speed. Then you have Technomancers Gingerbread ROM, which is completely custom and based on CM7 rather than an existing Samsung build.
In my opinion, staying on a shipping Tab ROM means you are not getting as much out of your device as you could. Even the Samsung unreleased dev builds are way better than the shipping ROMs, so I don't know why Samsung haven't actually formally released them.
Regards,
Dave
I user overcome 1.4.4
Its much faster than the stock rom and seems to use less battery power in my particular use case.
Custom, as indicated in my signature. I have a T-Mobile Tab and in stock form, it was extremely slow. It sucked.
chicken roms is better ever
For those who say stock is fine i say you have no idea what you are missing. Try both, then make a decision. Custom all the way baby!
T-Mobile tab running latest Overcome
As a bell mobility tab user, i used the stock one (jj3) i think for about a month.
After that i decided to go with roto jme then jmg and after that went to modaco.
Was on modaco for about the last 3 months and i have decided to flash overcome.
There is a significant speed difference between modaco and overcome. I noticed lag in angry birds seasons with modaco but with overcome, barely any.
I am happy with flashing a custom Rom and would never go back to stock.
If only i could get a copy of the stock Rom just in case of any issues.
Hope that helps.
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The hardware is superb but it's let down badly by Samsung in not keeping it up to date with firmwares.
Using Custom roms solves this and provides an all round quality tablet so, yeah, custom roms for me.
I use a stock rom for now, but once my download for Overcome is done, I'll switch to it.
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I use a stock rom for now, but once my download for Overcome is done, I'll switch to it.
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Read the guides before flashing.
I had stock. It was excellent, good multi-language support, excellent hardware support.
Tried MoDaCo. Lost most of language support. Hardware support only for the basic stuff.
Replaced with Overcome. Language support even sketchier. Battery performance awful. Hardware support still only basic stuff.
Tried going back to stock. I could not find the stock firmware that was originally available on the device. All «stock» firmwares in the wild had the same issues as the MoDaCo and Overcome. I was shocked and seriously puzzled!
Went to the repair shop and asked them to flash the device with the original.
- Two days later I was told, that they need some special cable to flash the device, and it's going to take a week to get it from Korea(!).
- One week later I was told, that the device needed motherboard replacement.
- One more week later I got the device.
Now my device has Excellent language support, but still fails to report Neighbouring GSM Cells.
Eventually I installed a Winblows in a VM (Bleh!) to try Kies.
To my greatest surprise after eventually connecting Kies says that my device is 'Not Upgradeable'.
So my adventure with custom firmwares is MOST unfortunate.
My ¢2: new users should NOT replace firmware unless they BADLY need something that SUPPOSEDLY a custom firmware would give.
Lachezarian said:
I had stock. It was excellent, good multi-language support, excellent hardware support.
Tried MoDaCo. Lost most of language support. Hardware support only for the basic stuff.
Replaced with Overcome. Language support even sketchier. Battery performance awful. Hardware support still only basic stuff.
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Can you please elaborate more what do you mean by "hardware support", what would be the difference between "basic stuff" and "excellent"?
AFAIK, the custom ROMS are based on stock ROM, thus I can't understand there will be any difference over hardware support level.
With custom ROMs you are more free!
DarkPal said:
Read the guides before flashing.
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I did. I ended up installing Rotohammer's instead, though. It works fine.
Hey Guys
So i have been doing alot of searching and tersting and i simply cannot make up my mind on which rom to install on my s4. im honestly thinking of flashing the official 5.0.1 russian rom but i will lose the root ability which is what i require. the other requisites are:
good camera, mustnt crash as i will like to capture those important moments of my little one without having to wait and sometimes reboot.
no other crashes.
dont want bloatware.
no overheating.
decent battery life.
well thats about it. i dont really need much.
can somebody give me their suggestions based on that?
thanks
wrong thread
abukad said:
Hey Guys
So i have been doing alot of searching and tersting and i simply cannot make up my mind on which rom to install on my s4. im honestly thinking of flashing the official 5.0.1 russian rom but i will lose the root ability which is what i require. the other requisites are:
good camera, mustnt crash as i will like to capture those important moments of my little one without having to wait and sometimes reboot.
no other crashes.
dont want bloatware.
no overheating.
decent battery life.
well thats about it. i dont really need much.
can somebody give me their suggestions based on that?
thanks
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It seems you have opened this thread in the wrong location....
- For best camera, Flash official TW 5.0.1 firmware....
- After flashing, Root it with CF Autoroot...
What? This is original devolopment thread man!And people scold me for asking about a root method in QandA because "You should have researched first and now...wtf?"
Anyway flash Prism barebone which havr all your demands fullfilled
Keep calm.Coz IPL 8 belongs to KKR
Im on Stock Firmware: 4.4.2 on my LG G2 Verizon (VS98024A). Ive been doing alot of browsing on Custom Rom's and I want to hear some opinions. My question is Whats the BEST and most Stable ROM out there today? I was never a HUGE fan of Lollipop, but im not against it; and Cyanogenmod was never my "Favorite" custom ROM, But again; not against it!
I see ALOT of ROM's by Cloudyfa for 4.4 KitKat like CloudyFlex 2.8, CloudyG2 2.2, CloudyPro II 2.3 and I wonder whats the real differences between them all [REALLY?] and also LP 5.1 Roms like Cloudyfa's CloudyG2 3.3 and the comparions between that and the KK Versions with [PORT] like OptimusG3 Rom V1.5 and the OptimusPro Rom V4.5? and You cant forget Cyanogen Mod with KK and LP Roms as well, even 6.x MM.
Not to Mention ALL the others like Pac Rom, Slim Rom, Devient, and ect ect so on!
So what are the major categorys and differences besides the obvious of Andrioid Versions; What are the Kernels like? What makes one ROM (in your specific) better then others?
I See - A LOT- of people who are new to the G2 like myself; alittle late in the game just due to the fact the phone; "Out Of the Box" is still an AMAZING phone; and everyone who didnt follow these ROM's as they were in the making; seem to be out of the loop and not cought up, and not many replys to them asking. I was hoping I could start a thread that could help people and answer some of the multiple repeat questions and help give some people some insight on this topic!
Im inviting EVERYONE who ever ran a ROM other then STOCK to chime in and spread what you know! Thanks!!
if you dont know the difference between cloudy's rom then you should unroot your device because sooner or later you will brick it
I don't know why but I kept running into lag with the stock ROM on my D800 after a couple of months of use. Eventually, I became annoyed and installed this stripped D800 ROM, and never looked back. It's very fast and lightweight giving all stock functionality, without the bloat of dozens installed and running bloatware apps. Rather unfortunately, there is only the d800 version. Perhaps, such ROMs exist for other G2 editions?
Robles.... ROM's are very personal girlfriends of our phones and us users. Your likes might aggravate me and viceversa. Cloudy offers cleaned up variations of stock OS, and then you have CM-based roms (bliss pop, resurrection, etc). The best rom? Only you can answer that. You're asking a very annoying question even though this community is very helpful. Ask a waiter what they recommend, and what should their answer be? "it depends what you're in the mood for?" Right? How does he/she know what we like? Your question is similar, and has been asked too many times. As helpful as xda is, we all appreciate that a person investigates BEFORE asking. Learn or try, and then ask.
Go on the threads and read and read comments and posts, and slowly your gut will tell you to try a rom or not. As long as you make backups with twrp, you can always return to safety with what you had.
I'm on Slimsaber LP rom, and the battery life is amazing for a daily driver. There's a start, read, read more, and good luck.
Hello everyone,
I personally never owned a Samsung device (always Nexus and mostly with Paranoid Android or Dirty Unicorns ROM) but my girlfriend has one and she defeniately needs it to be flashed :good:
As I am completely new to Samsung devices, I have no idea about all the developers and different ROMs that are out there for the Samsung Note 4 (Snapdragon).
I don't have much time to try around with different ROMs as it isn't my phone.
I need one that is good, stable, fast (and also supports the stylus / samsung apps). So I can flash it quickly and have a happy girlfriend
So that is the reason I an asking in the first place. Else I would just flash around and keep trying until I find the best fit.
I saw CM is officially supporting the Note 4. So that one might be a good solution. But does it have all those stylus samsung stuff?
Any other ROMs I should check out?
Do I need to flash a new radio?
Thanks in advance and sorry for posting another "which ROM" thread. But I can't really test around to find out on my own as it is not my device that I am going to improve !
If n910g, this is highly recommended, although you have to disable or uninstall later all apps that you don't want if you want a debloated rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...n910g-official-mm-6-0-1-t3359211/post67201643
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If n910g, this is highly recommended, although you have to disable or uninstall later all apps that you don't want if you want a debloated rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...n910g-official-mm-6-0-1-t3359211/post67201643
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It is N910F.
The link you provided is simply stock android MM?
Yes stock MM, stock is in my experience the most stable and bug free rom build. But the link is for n910g unfortunately.
Stock ROM, and then debloat yourself. Quite honestly speaking, and no offence to anyone, there are no good ROMs available for Note 4. In fact I myself might have not got the phone if I realised the development section is like this. And I am not interested in ported ROMs, so even though there are many available I won't go that way, and I am too dumb to make a ROM for myself, so stock ROM it is.
I agree, stock rom rooted and debloat it, and apply msm tweaks. If you want, xposed as well.
Utini said:
Hello everyone,
I personally never owned a Samsung device (always Nexus and mostly with Paranoid Android or Dirty Unicorns ROM) but my girlfriend has one and she defeniately needs it to be flashed :good:
As I am completely new to Samsung devices, I have no idea about all the developers and different ROMs that are out there for the Samsung Note 4 (Snapdragon).
I don't have much time to try around with different ROMs as it isn't my phone.
I need one that is good, stable, fast (and also supports the stylus / samsung apps). So I can flash it quickly and have a happy girlfriend
So that is the reason I an asking in the first place. Else I would just flash around and keep trying until I find the best fit.
I saw CM is officially supporting the Note 4. So that one might be a good solution. But does it have all those stylus samsung stuff?
Any other ROMs I should check out?
Do I need to flash a new radio?
Thanks in advance and sorry for posting another "which ROM" thread. But I can't really test around to find out on my own as it is not my device that I am going to improve !
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You must flash samsung based rom to have all soen features and samsung apps. I reconnemed kurama rom which in using , its battery friendly, fast and stock based. If you going to flash kurama rom you must flash modem and bootloader for the rom to boot up (only can be flashed from pc with odin)