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so now that we have some options i'm having a tough time deciding what to stick with. i really don't have the time to back up and test each flavor so i thought i'd throw it out there..
it seems like the 3 main roms [fission, gummyjar and tanzinite] are all pushing for the most asop like experience possible. that being said, i'm finding it hard to choose one to stick with being that at this point it seems like none of them are bringing any real new features to the table aside from streamlining the asop experience.
i've been using fission since it was released for d2, and may be tempted to stick with it due to the consistency of updates.
can anyone explain why it may be worth switching to gummyjar or tanzinite?
There is also apex, used it and would recommend it.
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I personally like fission for the quick support and is updated often, but not too often. Its fast, stable, and there is a bunch of awesome themes for it.
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I'm currently running Ultimate Droid RC2 and love it. The only downfall is no GPS; I'm in a rural area that I know well so I don't need it right now but when i get moved back to a larger area I will want it back on. If the GPS isn't added by then I'll be going back to GummyJAR, which was snappy and never really gave me any grief.
As an aside, the AOSP thing is a big deal because it's ridiculously customizable and much easier on system resources. Spend some time messing with themes and different apps and you'll be able to create just about any experience on the droid that you want.
Fission is a pretty solid rom. I used it for a long time and with the new updates I am going to be checking it out again.
Currently I'm running GummyJar 2.5 on my D2. I would say the main advantage I have had with GJ is that it is fast, really fast. So much so that I actually find the other roms to be a bit sluggish compared to it. It's not a colossal speed difference if you are coming from another rom but it is noticeable. I also liked how there is a lot less blur in it than the other roms I tried. Fission slowly has more and more blur creeping back into it which is what is kinda pushing me away from it. Also as far as I know GJ is the only one with lockscreen sliders and some of the cyanogen mod apps built into it. It's also felt more stable to me.
My last reason is that after using fission for a few days mine always began to slow down a bit or throw a few errors here and there. It kinda feels to me like windows xp did, as you use it more it gets more problems. I haven't had any issues or slowdowns on GJ and have been using it about 2 weeks.
All that said, they are all good roms. I don't think tanzanite is stable enough for daily use so unless you are pretty savvy and don't mind having some stuff not work I'd wait on it for the time being. GJ, Fission and Apex are all stable and run much better than stock. If you like fission for the updater and are happy with it there is not really any huge reason to go jump on another rom.
Would like to point out that this is probably not the correct area for this.
All in all, it's a matter of choice, whichever one is more your cup of tea, there's no clear cut best one out there, just one that may fit you better and whatnot. Just try them all once and pick one, don't think there will ever be close to a consensus about this
Firstly, I want to say that I am doing this just to get everyone's own personal view on which EVO ROM is the best. Before I get all kinds of hateful posts just hear me out. I want to know what you think from your own personal point of view and why you think it's the best. For those who switch ROMs daily, post and tell some pros and cons of each maybe. Tell me why you like it, what you like about it, which of your needs it meets, which it doesn't. And so on!!! I think this could be a good thread for the noobs to learn different things about different kinds of ROMs and what the different ones have to offer. Thank you XDA community!!!!!
Edit: "Frequent flaher" I like that term and I'm sure it applies to a lot of people posting in this thread.
Destroyer is awesome. Very fast and awesome theming. VaelPak is also really good b/c it's so unique and customizable. IMHO, if you're new to flashing, you need to try, CM or variant of, Miui, VaelPak, and a Z ROM (MikZ or Warm Z).
For sense ROMs, Unleashed is really good. Very fast/smooth and awesome theme options. Best sense ROM IMHO. MikFroyo is also very fast. I can get good battery life out of almost any ROM, but EViO 2 stands out in that area.
ive flashed alot of sense and about all of the gingerbread roms. the gingerbreads are fast, but too high maintenance for me. sure some will say that its stable for them but 8 out of 10 in the cm threads are trying to work out bugs.
theres also a lot of fast and fully functional sense roms highly themed. depends on what the end user whants out of their rom, functionality, look, batt, etc..
i like a bare bones stock sleek looking optimized preferably lightly themed rom. thats why im currently running Miks 4.6b2 ODEXED themed by Chogardjr. i removed all of the useless stuff, its faast, rock solid stable, great battery life and everything works. IMHO!
I have used almost every setup there is, and most are pretty good, except they all have an issue or 2 that makes me feel incomplete when it comes to my phone.
Sense Roms: King's Ultra Froyo and Ultra Froyo 2, Koni's Elite 1 and Elite 2. ALL of those are pretty equal. Very fast, smooth, beautiful looking, but no matter what kernel I tried, battery life was garbage. One thing about my phone is I tried almost every NetArchy Kernel there is, I bet, and never got a good battery on a Sense ROM.
Miui: I can see why people like it, but I just don't like having all my apps on the desktop and switching to LPP takes away part of the allure of havng Miui. The theme changer wouldn't install any of the themes I downloaded. Plus, I had issues with screen flicker, but I understand I did the update wrong, so that may be where that came from. Also, I spent over an hour alphabetizing my apps... damn OCD!
CM7: By FAR the best battery life, with the kernel I use, SavagedZen 009, but the GPS navigation thing is an issue. I take my phone off the charger at 6AM, and by 11PM, after moderate to heavy use, I'm never below 50%. Still, I want those Sense Widgets. LPP has them, but in People, for instance, you don't get the user pics from Facebook, and all the entries are just the stock Android image. One other thing on CM7, that is intolerable, is that it takes a coon's age to copy anything to my SDCard. I did a back up, and reformat the other night and it took an hour and a half to copy my music back (just under a gig), for example
Right now, I'm running Destroyer, and the battery isn't as good as with nightly 14, but it's pretty good. BEtter than with any of the others I've tried. And whatever issues people have with this, I'm not having them. Everything is working good. Very fast, too.
For me, the best, most complete ROM there is, is VaelPak 3.2. It has everything you want. Almost like all the different Mods were combined to make one insane ROM. More custumization options than CM/Sense and MiUi put together, puls packs of goodies that come with the ROM installed on the SDCard. I can't remember why I took it off now, but I think it was the battery life, again, was horrible. Dropped 15% in less than 2 hours with the stock kernel. Although, I didn't keep it on long enough to really test other kernels with it, and there are a few that people using it say give them fanatastic battery life.
I love my CM7 nightlies. Nuff said!!!!!! <3
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Firstly, I want to say that I am doing this just to get everyone's own personal view on which EVO ROM is the best. Before I get all kinds of hateful posts just hear me out. I want to know what you think from your own personal point of view and why you think it's the best. For those who switch ROMs daily, post and tell some pros and cons of each maybe. Tell me why you like it, what you like about it, which of your needs it meets, which it doesn't. And so on!!! I think this could be a good thread for the noobs to learn different things about different kinds of ROMs and what the different ones have to offer. Thank you XDA community!!!!!
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still waiting for the best...
i like warm z.. but it dont have hdmi and 4G. ffc can be worked around.
what dont you give your thoughts???
Well I just started flashing ROMs about 9 months ago and started a basically sense roms. I didn't really like them bc of limited customization and they were a little slow and battery was horrible. From there I stuck with an AOSP rom for about the past 6 months until a few weeks ago and read up a little on MIUI and tried that out for a whole 6 hours and hated it. I couldn't stand all my apps on the screen and no drawer. Really got on my nerves. Then tried out that Unleashed and was happy with that for about a week til I really started doing some reading up on CM and decided to try it out, loved it and everything about it. So now I'm a supporter of them, but am super stoked to try out this new SZ ROM. Think that might be the new rom of choice for me.
Edit: That good Dan?
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^^^ that will work...
Not sure why anyone hasn't said this yet but Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 5 is the best in my opinion. Might not have been updated in a while, but in my experience is the fastest Sense rom with lots of eye candy while still looking sleek/professional without going overboard, the best battery life (16 hours heavy use 30 with light use/good signal), and everything works. I know that AOSP roms have wimax now but gps has been hit and miss with every one of them (for gingerbread at least, I don't care for any 2.2 AOSP roms). Navigation definitely did not work.
I loved Evervolv and Savage but again, not everything works the way it should. Myn's is just the best daily driver. Battery life is phenomenal, I haven't been able to get more than 16-20 hours out of an aosp rom.
IMO (never h):
All the Sense ROMs are the same. They are just the same stock ROM with some heavy theming and maybe a custom tweak here and there ... but IMO if you're going to flash sense you're better off just checking the themes section and getting the look you want... because that's what they are.
Also keep in mind that Sense is likely a dead end as it is. I have doubts 2.3 will ever land on EVO .from HTC/Sprint... meaning it will never come to fruition in any Sense ROM. So it's a dead-end thing to support anyway.
AOSP is a different story. These are truly custom, already ahead of Sense if you're a version buff (2.3.3) and tend to run faster, smoother, and with A LOT less bloat. That said they aren't all flowers and rainbows either. Because they are actually scratch written they tend to not be feature complete (though team WIN is quickly changing that) so make sure you know what feature is missing and if that's a big deal to you.
That said, CM is the AOSP leader. It has the dev support, and most AOSP ROMs you'll notice are based on CM because they are nice enough to release under GPL rather than the default Apache agreement most others use. I like it for what it is, and it's the "best" if you like vanilla Android and want to follow what Google is doing with thier OS.
The other "best" IMO MIUI. It's behind CM in terms of the latest Android base (though GB is finally in the works), and it's closed source so it is missing things available in other AOSP ROMS ... but what it does bring to the table is amazing. It's better in battery, faster, the built in apps are worth paying for if they ever make it to market ... its an amazing ROM.
I secretly have wet dreams of MIUI and CM having an Android love child and bringing me my dream ROM ... until then I flip back and forth between the two.
I'm running a special rom called "dirk diggler rom" and if you want to use it deposit 500 bucks in my PayPal . P.S its better than any rom YOU will ever run on your evo lol.
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^^^^^ uhmmm, nah. Can't be too much different than anything else on here. Pretty funny though. Ha
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The answer depends on your needs. For instance, I don't like the look of Sense but I also need 4G, GPS, Bluetooth and Camera working everyday. That limits me to a Sense based rom until CM7 stabilizes those things. For now, I'm getting by pretty well with Nonsense. It's not been updated recently and has minor flaws but the important things work for me everyday.
No one ROM does everything well. It's all about trade-offs. When you know your own needs, the filtering the choices should be a lot easier.
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The answer depends on your needs. For instance, I don't like the look of Sense but I also need 4G, GPS, Bluetooth and Camera working everyday. That limits me to a Sense based rom until CM7 stabilizes those things. For now, I'm getting by pretty well with Nonsense. It's not been updated recently and has minor flaws but the important things work for me everyday.
No one ROM does everything well. It's all about trade-offs. When you know your own needs, the filtering the choices should be a lot easier.
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Check my signature.
All those things work on my setup.
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Destroyer is awesome. Very fast and awesome theming. VaelPak is also really good b/c it's so unique and customizable. IMHO, if you're new to flashing, you need to try, CM or variant of, Miui, VaelPak, and a Z ROM (MikZ or Warm Z).
For sense ROMs, Unleashed is really good. Very fast/smooth and awesome theme options. Best sense ROM IMHO. MikFroyo is also very fast. I can get good battery life out of almost any ROM, but EViO 2 stands out in that area.
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+1 on destroyer buddy! and its very stable!
In my experience with cm7 at least, scrolling in the browser and touch response has lagged for me compared to sense. Savage and evervolv seemed to be better but nothing comes close to the responsiveness using myns warm
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I am currently using CM7 but looking for a sense 2.0 rom - any help?
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imho
been using mik4.5 w/4.1.9 sbc all works get 16 hours a day with everything on updates every hour,fps 54. love it
Tried miui and cant live w/o sense.
Heres my thing, all the sense based roms are pretty much the same just different icons(themes), but if I have to flash abunch of stuff just to make a rom work right, I'm out
Sense rom = Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS5
stable, fast, and it works...
AOSP rom = Ultimate Droid
http://www.udrom.com/forum/
Also stable, fast and completely working Gingerbread for the EVO and several other phones...
What is the best one running or able to wifi tether...I was using fresh and decided for a new look...since I been away I decided on CM7 but I discovered wifi is not working???....Anyone???
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Hey all...I was wondering what people thought was the most stable/customizable rom out there? I'm currently using CM7 stable..and not to happy with it at all. I usually use MODACO's ROMS and have been very pleased....I just want something new, and fun...Any suggestions?
If you usually use Modoco, and have tried CM7, I guess only thing left to feel something "different & customizable" is the latest Miui.
Very stable and fast for me, and there are a bunch of themes. I highly recommend using Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher, as the built in launcher is what turns people away and in my experience is the source of instability. You can even cherry pick any aspect from between themes using the built in Theme Manager. Oh and on the latest version, I got 37 hours of normal use .
It's quite different. On MIUI now because I like the animations and built in exclusives:
File Manager with awesome indexing and great FTP
Music App is nice, scrolling lyrics are a cool feature
MIUI Gallery is slow at times, but lets you easily hide and unhide media folders.
MIUI Cam is nice too, reminds me of sense camera.
Phone/Contacts/SMS app are awesome as default android is lacking.
Lockscreen is visually nice.
I dislike the default launcher and the search!!
Niether are better, CM7 or MIUI, its all part of the fun of owning a great android phone. You get bored after a few months, you switch it up!
If you want stable, go CM6...
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MIUI,all the time
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MIUI is nowhere near stable or bug-free. At least on Froyo it wasn't. And I don't believe that changing to a buggier Gingerbread as a base added stability to it.
If you want fun - go for it, in the worst case - keep your nandroid at hand.
If you want stability - stay with Froyo ROMs, CM6 or Enomther's. But it won't be fun then.
Yeah, I'm one of the people that have an amazing experience with MIUI, but others aren't so lucky. so like the guy above
Miui for new, fun and customizability
CM6 or Enom for guaranteed stable.
I've also had a great experience with MIUI. But, u'll only know by trying/flashing!
Thank you to all who responded. CM7 is going okay for me. I really like the customized features. But I'm having a terrible time with the Bluetooth feature. Every time I'm on a call, either the end user can't hear me or they hear static. I tried changing my kernel to REDSTAR, but yes, it made my phone screaming fast, but still I have the BT issue.
What do you all think of KANG-0-RAMA ROM? I'll check out the more stable roms you guys mentioned. I'm not a fan of MIUI only b/c I dont like the iPhone look. But what do you all like about cm6? and I emother? Can you all please list what are the pros and cons of those two?
AGAIN THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!
Same for me wrt MIUI. Kinda think it stands for Mimic Iphone's User Interface ;p. If I wanted an IPhone, well u know the rest ...
I've been using CM7 since nightly #3 and been lucky that the wonk has generally stayed away. (I just jinxed it, didn't I .....)
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Same for me wrt MIUI. Kinda think it stands for Mimic Iphone's User Interface ;p. If I wanted an IPhone, well u know the rest ...
I've been using CM7 since nightly #3 and been lucky that the wonk has generally stayed away. (I just jinxed it, didn't I .....)
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What the hell is this wonk everyone is talking about?
shockaholick said:
What the hell is this wonk everyone is talking about?
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http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20881-psa-lets-define-wonk-so-we-are-on-the-same-page/
Stop being lazy!
If you use ADW for MIUI or reformat/repartition sd card--wipe all several times-- and do fresh install--use VM Heap Tool and set it at 48--the new GB MIUI is very stable for me.
I use MyBackUp Pro to bu home screens etc and restore--so it didn't take long to get back up and running
Take a look to this room http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061648 I have been using it for a couples of days and it is really stable, I don't know that kind of customization do you like from cm7 or modaco roms, I used too but they have too many problems.
What about battery life? My screen is off and my phone doesn't sleep on CM7
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What about battery life? My screen is off and my phone doesn't sleep on CM7
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thats odd... sleeps for almost everyone else. might be an app that is constantly keeping your phone awake or your sync settings are really frequent. which would go hand in hand with battery life.
Hearing people say MIUI is stable blows my mind. I've never used a buggier rom... it's quite nice when it works though.
I find that since 2.3, there hasn't been any stable roms. I'm hoping CM 7.1 is better, as I find CM7 pretty bad.
I'm using CM 7 ExtremeMod 16.5.2011 + a2sd. so far its very stable and battery last long.
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Looking to install an aosp rom on my friends incredible, wondering which is the fastest and stable
this has been debated millions of times and will continue to be. MIUI has never been nice to me. CM7 has always been my phones home, and i havent flashed anything to my phone in about 3 weeks, and i can tell you that its the most stable ive ever had my phone. nightly 181.
Different people have different tastes, try em both out and see which one your friend likes more.
I'll second CM I haven't flashed anything since I got it.
thanks guys
MIUI has more UI tweak options and themes. CM7 is more stable and has better ROM tweaks and such.
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Miui is great. Fast. Stable. And battery is the best I've ever had. My question is which is better miui or stock and why?
I've weighed some reasons but like both. Thoughts?
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Okay, both of them are very stable and mature ROM's.
However CM7 leads in the majority of the Incredible's development.
MIUI has used many parts from CM7 to make it the ROM it is now.
MIUI has it's own custom UI implemented that tends to run a little sluggish as well.
CM7 is quicker and more solid, however it is pretty bare UI-wise. There are tons of options to customize it though:
-Android kitchen (google it!)
-Widget locker
-Custom Launcher (Launcher Pro+ ftw)
-Custom Icons/Dock background (easy to do with LP+)
and loadddss more
MIUI is a nice package and still is superb on battery, stability and performance.
While MIUI does run sluggish with he stock launcher all you have to do is replace it with a custom launcher and its as smooth as anything else. Ill second the issue that I get great battery life even better so than I did on CM7. One big feature for me since I work night shift is MIUIs ability to use the do not disturb feature. I haven't find even a third party app that comes close to the simplicity of this feature. Just my 2 cents
Miui has ran pretty good for me, but I am always changing roms
I don't find MIUI to be sluggish with the stock launcher, what in specific are you guys referring to that find it "slower" than CM7 / 3rd part launchers?
I typically end up jumping back and forth between MIUI and CM7, both run fast and are smooth. MIUI is based off CM7, so the performance should be similar.
Although MIUI is much more visually polished, it sometimes seems a bit gimmicky and a bit iph*ne ish. Both ROMs are great, I would say flash both and see, I still find myself jumping between these two ROMs quite often.
IMO, the iPhone-ish comment is misplaced. I thought the same thing at first. There are enough themes out there that you can make your MIUI look like sense. I have been running MIUI since June. I get some frustrating FC's from time to time but it has not been bad enough to make me change.
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I don't find MIUI to be sluggish with the stock launcher, what in specific are you guys referring to that find it "slower" than CM7 / 3rd part launchers?
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I don't find it to be sluggish either. Every once in a while, after reading people gush about CM7, I'll go back and give it a try, but IMO, MIUI is by far the better ROM. I experience no force closes and/or bugs, the ROM is very fast, the battery life is awesome, the theming is great and simple (love Phazed Orange), updates are regular and a no-brainer to apply, and I love the MIUI launcher. The only thing that the ROM lacks that I would like is the ability to use scrolling widgets.
When I had my incredible it was cm7 all day everyday... the rom is quick... customization need I say more than T-Mobile theme chooser pre installed.. there are themes on the market from team carbon that actually will theme essentially everything on your phone to one color.. for example I used the blood red and poison green themes. They theme the whole interface of the phone.. most thorough themes I have ever used by a longshot.. however u will eventually find what u like best.. the great thing about the incredible is there r tons of roms to choose from.. have fun!!
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In my experience MIUI eats more battery life. Also I just feel that CM7 was more user friendly in my experience certain things were hard to find and took getting used to in MIUI in my opinion
Chiming in a little late, but I'm all about CM7 right now. Very fast and stable (from my experience).
For me, CM7 has great battery life, gives me the stock Android experience I want and generally offers a good balance of performance and features while remaining stable.
(Just my 2 cents).
Nothing against Miui, in fact I'll give it another shot down the road and see if it sticks.
MIUI uses cm7's kernels so you are getting the same battery life. As for miui being sluggish? That is just silly.
MIUI's built in theme manager lets you browse themes from the app itself and gives you the option to mix and match your themes to make them look just how you want.
I have used both and prefer CM. However I wanted to try some others so I started looking back at some of the Sense based ROMs. I have been running Nils Business GingerSense 3.5 for about a week and like the look of it, but so miss all the customizing I could do with CM. Always looking for something better though...
Cm7 for me. I am philosophically opposed to MIUI's taking from open source and releasing closed source. Even if it's legal I find it distasteful.
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So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. I remember GB was a lot faster than ICS, but geez I did not remember it being this fast. EVERYTHING opens and closes quicker, touch responsiveness is amazing, screens swipe lightning quick, and I'm sorry, even though I did realize ICS improved battery life a little bit from my initial impressions, GB is giving me better battery life than most of the ICS roms I have used. Most importantly to me though, my phone has simply just become more of a joy to use. And less of CHORE. ICS makes texting a pain in the ass. And not only that, but basically doing anything, browsing, having to constantly re-press anything, scrolling.......omg scrolling. Going down your facebook newsfeed is definitely a chore on ICS. Seeing as it goes up a little, half the time you scroll down. But typing is probably the biggest thing for me, since I text a decent amount. I even installed the same GB keyboard I'd used on gingerbread roms (it's a modified stock gb keyboard called "gingerbread keyboard") which I had been able to type so quick and so accuretly with (except for the occasional double letter that the keyboard puts in), but on ICS it was just as inaccurate as any other crap keyboard I'd try out. You just have to type slowwwww, and press hard. Who the hell wants to use their phone like an old person? I sure don't. ICS makes my phone a chore to use.
I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
Things I'd be missing from ICS: brightness minimum and maximum (having a lower min is really appreciated in my room at night - some later GB roms have this implemented though), the updated Gallery (soo much better on ICS), some features that are nice to have but I don't really change anyway (screen mode, gamma sensitivity, etc.), Chome (LOL jk, chrome sucks **** on mobile), better default video player, having my phone say 4.03, 4.04, or 4.1.1 that's about it. Lemme know some other things you'd miss from ICS if you were to revert back.
Also, I have tried most roms for ICS, ranging from AOKP, AOSP based roms, CM9, Sammywiz ones, MIUI variations. Just for reference, I've tried Shishir, Ressurection AOKP, Foxhound's roms, Basically all of Kaffee's roms, cMIUI, RGUI, AdyScorp's V4, AOKP official, Rootbox, etc. My favorite of those personally was probably Ressurection, and cMIUI. Not a huge fan of AOKP (or the wole CM interface), so cMIUI a bit more.
Btw, the GB rom I'm referring to is AdyScorpius' MIUI GB. Fastest rom I've ever used, period. Battery life from what I remember was not even that good (I mean it's MIUI) even compared to other MIUI's. So considering that I'm noticing it to be on par, if not better than ICS I was running, is noteworthy.
Lay your comments down below.
EDIT: Oh and I've tried a few JB roms already, including CM10, Kaffee's CM10, and X-treme's CM10 based rom. To be honest it's really smooth (coming from ICS though), however it's wayyy too early in the game to compare it to GB for me. To be quite honest, it's really smooth and relatively fast, but since it's still based on ICS, I doubt it will ever feel as good as GB.
I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. [...] I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.
Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.
We already had these kind of threads before
i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread
The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I downgraded from ics back to GB 2.3.4 due to ics bugs, lag on the touch screen (sometimes felt like a resistive screen) jerky swipes between home screens, black screen of death, random shut down and disappearing widgets. Like the op says, GB was a revelation again and the galaxy feels reliable, responsive and fast again. I'm staying put now till next year when my contact ends, I came from iPhone to android and maybe it will be wp8 next, or maybe a galaxy s3.....
I miss the face unlock, swipe to dismiss notifications and the task manager of ics, that's about all
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ephraim033 said:
I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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I'm hoping the same thing man haha. But honestly I'm not having my hopes up anymore. I know that the CM10 preview builds don't have HW Accelerator working, and that the sensitivity does seem a bit better than ICS (more in the 'ok-eh' category instead of 'bad' like ICS), but I've seen a couple builds that claim to have HW Acceleration working, so if that makes a drastic improvement we'll see. Honestly I thought when ICS came out that it was just early in developemnt and that they'd work out the jags and stuff....yeah no. It's 3 months later and performance-wise it's relatively similar. AOKP has gotten much smoother though, but there's only so much you can do.
mialwe said:
Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.
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I really appreciate your comments, especially coming from someone who has experience with kernels, it gives the whole discussion a little more validity. Wake lag is definitely annoying, honestly that's one of those things that by itself, you would think could be dismissed, but when added to the touch sensitivty, and sluggishness, just makes you think..what the hell.
Btw I was actually looking at WIUI last night by chance and also saw that he actually is updating his GB version. I had to re-read it a few times to make sure I wasn't mistaken. He's got a 6.29 version out, and in the comments he said he would do 8.4 (around there). I'll probably flash that, as my April GB rom is probably really outdated....hah.
sabianadmin said:
Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.
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I agree with you that it probably would have made a lot more people happy had they stuck with a thoroughly upgraded GB instead of making a new platform. However although ICS sucks performance-wise (interface, anyway), it is actually pretty good in terms of efficiency. If you notice while restoring text messages or installing something via titanium backup, or shutting off your phone, things run quicker on ICS. ICS is more efficient, for sure. Which is why I hate even more how it is, because it has potential but for some reason still just completely sucks.
I'm gonna have to rant on google: *these are new thoughts just realized a minute ago* Google is definitely behind the ball in terms of what they're releasing. Google has always been out of touch with the people[/B. I'm only 20 but I was able to pick this up over the last couple years. They suck at knowing what people want, or at least are too hung up with their own projections that they don't see the people in which they're serving. You can tell google doesn't know what they're doing because you see it in everything they do. Example 1) Changing Android Market to Google Play Store. Obviously, there are plenty of reasons for them to do that (main probably being to get their name out - not everyone knows android is google based, and also to put all their apps into one [google music, google books, ect]), but they could have done that without changing the name to something EVERYONE HATES. Example 2) Google chrome (desktop). I use Chrome on my home PC. It's really fast. Other than that, I hate everything about it. The interface is styled, but looks like it was organized by an amateur, and is poorly structured. Functinoality is splintered and not well thought out. Firefox beats it in every single category, except for performance. Wish I could go back to firefox. Example 3) Chrome (Mobile), this app is unstable, and probably the slowest browser on the market...and yet it is the only video playing browser available on JB (no flash anymore)... Firefox BETA is 300% more stable than chrome's Non Beta app.
GB was fine, but ICS's regression is total bull (and I'm not talking to official update - samsung), and honestly as mentioned above it is just debasing them for the future. Honestly, I had an itouch for a couple years, and have used countless friends iphones over the years, so I know what it's like. Just the simple fact that going back to MIUI GB has made me the happiest I've been in a while...is saying something. I hate to be the ass who brings up negative things, but if they had been doing things right in the first place, things wouldn't have to be mentioned. I'm not too picky, but I do demand quality. Although I've never even considered it in the past, I'm looking forward to seeing what they're rolling out for the iphone 5, cus it may actually make a difference in my next phone.
sahibunlimited said:
We already had these kind of threads before
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I saw one, but it does not discuss the same thing..it meerly has the same subject. This thread heads in a much different direction, also the former post is outdated with the progression of ICS currently.
LastStandingDroid said:
i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread
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You may find one! I know finding official releases past 4.x.x is hard. WIUI is pulling from somewhere though, I know that. Could be it's all just his own input.
Dark Emotion said:
The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I know ICS has better range for WIFI, other than that I don't know the actual differences.
*Sorry for long post*
It is not the range, it is wpa2 thing...
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Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!
i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.
ithehappy said:
Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!
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Lol I hope you're not trolling. Honestly I doubt GB has much of anything that ICS doesn't have. Except ICS option menu is dumb (although samsung's gb is RETARDED), and GB has more simple, intuitive button layout (delete, menu key layout, etc.)
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i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.
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Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time
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Lol I hope you're not trolling.
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Whatever I do, I'll never troll.
after brick my phone with the so called chip bug and change the mb after paying 100 with the same chip with a bug, flashing XWLPO and then XWLPT I decided to go back to 2.3.4. My battery last +2 days (everything disabled and underclocked) and everything looks smooth enogh for me. If you want a cool interface like ICS has (I see no reason at all to run ICS other than the interface) just install the free version of Go Launcher
Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time
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no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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ithehappy said:
Whatever I do, I'll never troll.
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Good to hear it :good:
heavens dragon said:
no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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Oh I gotcha. Yeah honestly stock camera blows all the other cameras away. Stock ICS camera is pretty decent too, but the button on stock gb is the best. feels more secure, and focus is instantaneous with press. MIUI (GB) is decent too except I found the quality a little worse and instant focus a little less accurate. Anti-shake is terrible on MIUI camera too.
Wow GB. Amazing memories .I think the best GB was XXKI4. But what can I know... I had GB for 2 or 3 months since this year's winter and then Boom! Boot loop. You know why guys?? I had brand XWKI4 and there were battery mods for XXKI4.So I flashed those ;p. And then came XXLPS.Now I am on LQ7 but It's not the same. Thanks bro I was waiting for man wich will lead me to GB. BTW first rom for SGS2 is XWKDD so?! Coman guys we have Gingerbread to flash
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can someone link the "best" (in his eyes) gb roms ?
i would love to try a few if they are really faster than ics (smoother).
was so close to try cm10 but so much stuff needs to be fixed...
for me the most important thing would be cam and a smooth feeling.
and can i use nova launcher prime on gb (is it looking the same?)
i never tried gb (my s2 came with ics, so....)
I haven't used GB since I got my S2, but I used it exclusively on my original S. When I moved from phone to phone I found the speed increase of GB on an S to ICS on my S2 simply mind blowing. I know it's nearly a 200% processor boost, but still. Now I'm using JellyBean. I get a full day of near constant use with an extended battery. (I'm a teen, we text all the time, so it gets a pretty heavy workout.) and the speed BLOWS AWAY Gingerbread and ICS without question.
So no, I don't miss it personally. And I'm using SwiftKey, which is an absolute dream. Way better than any stock kb I've ever used.
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