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WARNING :
USE WITH OTA ANDROID SYSTEMS ONLY ! USAGE ON OTHER CONFIGURATIONS COULD CAUSE THE PROGRAM TO GO HAYWIRE !
WARNING :
CONSIDER DISABLING UAC AND SECURITY SOFTWARE BEFORE USING THIS PROGRAM
WARNING :
BY USING THIS PROGRAM YOU AGREE TO THE FACT THAT YOUR DEVICE MIGHT GET BRICKED IN THE PROCESS. BY USING
THIS PROGRAM YOU ALSO AGREE THAT I (Gersma) WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR BRICKED DEVICE.
Afterota v1.09
This program primarily targets A50X/G100W tablets with Ota Hc or Ota Ics.
It lets the user install a recovery and a bootloader, compatible with Hc or Ics.
Afterota offers no garanty for succes. You use Afterota at your own risk.
You can always end up with a bricked device.
Features
- auto retrieval of all your tablet ID's
- saving important tablet ID's for future reference
- one click installation of bootloaders, recoveries and optionally stock kernels
- return to stock Hc or Ics through update.zip method
- unsoftbrick your tablet if it gets stuck in apx mode
- root your tablet
- etc . .
Credits ( people who directly or indirectly contributed ) :
- Vache, Jasto, Civato, Scrilax and a lot of guides on Xda
Download ( 104 Mb ) : here
A lite version of the program ( 500 Kb ) is attached to this post, it lets you review and save all the important numbers associated with your tablet.
Changelog
v1.09
18/06/2012
- Afterota now detects if there are multiple android devices connected to the computer.
v1.08
17/06/2012
- Afterota should work with custom roms now ( hc bootloader + flexreaper )
- removed the warning and exclusion when kernel returns bl v0.03.11-ICS. ( see v1.07 changelog )
- added v8 ics bootloaders by Scrilax to the package
v1.07
04/06/2012
- Afterota should work for all models : A500, A501, G100W
- new method for retrieving information
- when kernel returns bootloader version 0.03.11-ICS all flashing is disabled
- program lets you install ics bootloader on HC roms now
- program layout simplified
- winxp and vista are back in the running
v1.06
31/05/2012
- bugfix in bootloader detection (again)
- added lite version to the package
- added v7 ics bootloaders by Scrilax to the package
V1.05
31/05/2012
- bugfix in bootloader detection
v1.04
31/05/2012
- when ics build is not recognized, all kernel flashing is disabled
v1.03
30/05/2012
- changed layout a bit to hold more information
- changed the way the id's are detected
- ics version detection for flashing correct kernel
- program restricted for usage on win7 only
- displays uac warning, uac sometimes causes nvflash to crash
v1.02
29/05/2012
- removed the auto reboot after pushing the root packet to the tablet
- updated thor recovery for ics to v1.73
- the program now displays a warning if the file containing serial, cpuid and sbk is not found
- improved the code to disable the "install-recovery.sh" script
v1.01
28/05/2012
- made some changes to the way the program acts in different situations
- when hc rom is detected all ics bootloader & kernel flashing is disabled
- when ics rom is detected all hd bootloader flashing is disabled, except on the "back to stock" tab
- several other changes to the interface as sugested by civato.
v1.00
27/05/2012
- initial release
Nice, will test later when I get home,
expand information please
I understand this correctly? (My English is very bad )
This program saves me installing the bootloader v3 v4 v6 etc? is that correct?
regards
civato said:
Nice, will test later when I get home,
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I'm looking forward to your findings.
Hopefully it will work in different situations, only had the chance of testing and debugging it on my tablet.
will this work on my PB Liberty Tab (G100W) running HC 3.0.1?
my android version is 3.0.1
and build Number is PB_G100_1.013.02_EMEA_GENS
great share!
peter33a said:
I understand this correctly? (My English is very bad )
This program saves me installing the bootloader v3 v4 v6 etc? is that correct?
regards
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short answer : yes
ZACQ8 said:
will this work on my PB Liberty Tab (G100W) running HC 3.0.1?
my android version is 3.0.1
and build Number is PB_G100_1.013.02_EMEA_GENS
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yes, with this you can install recoveries, root your tablet, and even return to stock through the update.zip method for eg. selling your tablet !
john9 said:
great share!
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thanks
So, this should work on the A501 too then...
Who wants to go first...
ultramag69 said:
So, this should work on the A501 too then...
Who wants to go first...
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If this a500 version works fine for everybody, i intend to make a a501 version of it. I advice not to use it on A501 because on ics it seems that the a501 has different bootloaders.
I want actually to install ICS Custom/stock rom with ICS bootloader,
Could you tell me the steps to follow,
Once I install ICS bootloader while I am on HC stock, then I cant boot, so should I flash a ICS rom from CWM immedietly after installing ICS bootloader? or I have to install ICS stock Rom first then ICS bootloader??
gersma said:
yes, with this you can install recoveries, root your tablet, and even return to stock through the update.zip method for eg. selling your tablet !
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ZACQ8 said:
I want actually to install ICS Custom/stock rom with ICS bootloader,
Could you tell me the steps to follow,
Once I install ICS bootloader while I am on HC stock, then I cant boot, so should I flash a ICS rom from CWM immedietly after installing ICS bootloader? or I have to install ICS stock Rom first then ICS bootloader??
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1) best to put the ota update zip on the root of your sdcard
2) boot your tablet with vol min pressed until you see recovery image loading
3) then you will end up or in the actual recovery you installed or it will begin flashing the ota ics
4) when you are on ics and you have enabled usb debugging, you can then flash the matching kernel for the ota you had installed (eg version 1.031)
(without the correct kernel on ics, certain recoveries wont work)
5) after reboot, flash recovery and bootloader again
6) remove the sdcard from your tablet, remove the update.zip and put for example flexreaper or any other cwm rom on it. put sdcard back in your tablet.
7) reboot your tablet into the recovery and flash your custom rom you put on your sdcard in the previous step, and your good to go.
you should have done the update.zip method in the first place, or go to ics through the official update system.
Many thanks for the Guide,
I will try as guided...
for Packard bell, official ICS updates are not rolled out yet...
only one doubt in the item 1 you mentioned is internal SD or external SD??
thanks again
Ok I tested it , my conclusions:
-Tablet info section= 10/10
Very easy getting your cpuid and SBK , one click , nice.
-Back to stock= 8/10
I get it but I do hope the new users get how it works so maybe more info with link to full packets thread and link to decrypter thread .
-HC= 9/10
In browse , I would remove the custom bootloader , for HC you only got the A501 and A500 bootloader , for some it would seem that they can flash a custom HC bootloader like on ICS. (My opinion , thinking on newbies)
-ICS=10/10
Everyhting what you need is there.
-Kernel and root = 7/10
Tricky stuff here , maybe better to provide the full stock kernels also (no sys rw hack)
Also I would make clear that only installing the root doesn't give you system/rw acces without installing the hacked kernels.
And make clear that these are not tweaked or OC kernels.
(you are free to add kernels from my thread and if you need a combination just pm me)
-extra stuff =10/10
Overall 9/10 , I flashed a few recovery's and bootloaders using the pre build in packages and using browse and picking my own stuff , really nice and easy !
Maybe a idea for later and do the same as my m8 blackthun3der and allow prebuild packages (.a500apx).
For the A501 , if you download the flash tool from my guide you will find the bootloaders for the A501 in there , if you can't find them let me know !
edit
One question , did you use the correct bootloader to go into apx because for ICS V6 it is a different one then to use when you install HC bootloader. (reason)
Download my tool package from the guide and look for
dlmodeblhc.bin = for a500 getting into apx when installing HC bootloader
dlmodeblhc501.bin = for A501 getting into apx when installing HC bootloader
dlmodeblics.bin = for a500 getting into apx when installing V6
dlmodeblics501.bin = for a501 getting into apx when installing V6
and then you got the HC bootloaders
hcbootloadera500.bin
hcbootloadera501.bin
And ICS bootloaders
ics_boot_unlk_V6_500.bin
ics_boot_unlk_V6_501.bin
Works perfect for me! Thanks! Makes things a lot easier
ZACQ8 said:
Many thanks for the Guide,
I will try as guided...
for Packard bell, official ICS updates are not rolled out yet...
only one doubt in the item 1 you mentioned is internal SD or external SD??
thanks again
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i meant external sd
I just went back to full stock hc 3.01 on my g100w, stock bootloader and stock recovery, through the update zip method. (one ive downloaded from vache's romlist), i enabled usb debugging on that system and imediatly flashed ics bootloader 3.14.6 + thor recovery v1.72 from the "ics" tab on my program.
Rebooted the tablet afterwords and i could not boot into honeycomb like you say. Then i removed the external SD card from the tablet and put ota ics version 1.031 on it, put it back in the tablet and rebooted the tablet with vol min pressed.
Thors recovery came up, and i did :
1) "choose zip from SD card"
2) in the next menu i choose "update.zip"
3) in the next menu i choose "yes install update.zip"
4) it starts flashing the official ota ics
5) after flashing go to "wipe menu" and do : "wipe data" , "wipe cache" and "wipe dalvik"
6) after that go to "power menu" and reboot your tablet
7) go through the initial android setup (choose wife, choose language etc)
8) enable usb debugging in your android settings (its in the "options for devellopers" section, just above "about tablet"
9) fire up afterota v1.00
10) go to the "kernels and root" tab
11) if you installed ota ics v1.031 then install the corresponding patched kernel, in case of v1.033 choose the other one etc. and start flashing the kernel.
12) if kernel flash is done, shutdown and reboot your tablet into android
13) once you see the android lockscreen press "reconnect tablet" on Afterota (on "tablet info" tab)
14) go to the "kernels and root" tab in After ota and press the "copy" button to copy the cwm root package to the internal sdcard of your tablet. If its done your tablet will automaticly reboot. If you see the android lockscreen proceed to the next step
15) press reconnect tablet in Afterota, if connected proceed to next step
16) go to the "ics" tab in Afterota and flash your recovery of choice again, the only difference between "install a500" and "install g100w" buttons is the bootloader logo, so its not a desaster if you think you've hit the wrong button. If see pass on the screen of your tablet proceed to next step.
17) shutdown and powerup your tablet holding the vol min button pressed to get to the recovery, go to "install from zip file", "choose zip from internal storage", choose "cwm_hc_ics_root.zip", choose "yes install ..", go back, "power menu", "reboot" and let the tablet boot until you see android lockscreen.
18) now in Afterota, reconnect tablet, go to the "extras" tab, and "remove recovery killer script"
Tadaaaaaaa : fully rooted ics + custom bootload + recovery
civato said:
Ok I tested it , my conclusions:
-Tablet info section= 10/10
Very easy getting your cpuid and SBK , one click , nice.
-Back to stock= 8/10
I get it but I do hope the new users get how it works so maybe more info with link to full packets thread and link to decrypter thread .
-HC= 9/10
In browse , I would remove the custom bootloader , for HC you only got the A501 and A500 bootloader , for some it would seem that they can flash a custom HC bootloader like on ICS. (My opinion , thinking on newbies)
-ICS=10/10
Everyhting what you need is there.
-Kernel and root = 7/10
Tricky stuff here , maybe better to provide the full stock kernels also (no sys rw hack)
Also I would make clear that only installing the root doesn't give you system/rw acces without installing the hacked kernels.
And make clear that these are not tweaked or OC kernels.
(you are free to add kernels from my thread and if you need a combination just pm me)
-extra stuff =10/10
Overall 9/10 , I flashed a few recovery's and bootloaders using the pre build in packages and using browse and picking my own stuff , really nice and easy !
Maybe a idea for later and do the same as my m8 blackthun3der and allow prebuild packages (.a500apx).
For the A501 , if you download the flash tool from my guide you will find the bootloaders for the A501 in there , if you can't find them let me know !
edit
One question , did you use the correct bootloader to go into apx because for ICS V6 it is a different one then to use when you install HC bootloader. (reason)
Download my tool package from the guide and look for
dlmodeblhc.bin = for a500 getting into apx when installing HC bootloader
dlmodeblhc501.bin = for A501 getting into apx when installing HC bootloader
dlmodeblics.bin = for a500 getting into apx when installing V6
dlmodeblics501.bin = for a501 getting into apx when installing V6
and then you got the HC bootloaders
hcbootloadera500.bin
hcbootloadera501.bin
And ICS bootloaders
ics_boot_unlk_V6_500.bin
ics_boot_unlk_V6_501.bin
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You have some really good tips here, i'll try to import them into the program in the next release. Thank you very much for reviewing the program !
Many thanks again mate,
You have already typed a lot for me, sorry to bother again,
OTA HC 3.0.1 was rooted before you flash ICS bootloader from your program??
If I need only a working ICS rom on my Tab, not rooted no CWM, can I stop at the instruction no.6
A500 / A501 bootloaders have tiny difference (aside from the bootlogo, which I changed back to "green Acer"). I shall probably make V7 universal.
However, can you update the tool packages not to flash V3 - it doesn't allow custom BL updates via. CWM (full support for that is in V5 via both CWM and fastboot).
I bought this tablet and I want to install a custom rom. I am not interested in dual booting. I found a thread titled
"[GUIDE]A500/501/G100W-Installing ICS V8 UNL-BL & CWM Or back to HC BL(24-6-2012) "
Information there is a little confusing to me. On my A200, the steps were simple, unlock boot loader, install CWM and then root/install rom. Then I was done. Seems like I have to do more steps on theA500, which I don't mind I just want to do it right. Is it my understanding that the thread is for dual booting, it also talks about CPU ID.
I found another thread that talks about Afterota v1.09, do I only need to just do this for what I want to do or do I need to do more? Why would I need to install a ICS bootloader, I have ICS now, stock, doesn't it already have it? I tried looking at the Q/A but I just ended up more confuse.
Could someone just give point me in the right direction so I can go about unlocking bootloader and installing CWM so I can install a custom rom.
I have Android 4.0.3 Kernel Version 2.6.39.4+ Stock
Side question, my unit is a 16gb model but its only reading about 12.71gb, does anyone know why?
A500 works differently: the stock ICS BL is locked and cannot be unlocked from fastboot. What we can do however, is to flash custom BL, since we know the device "Secure Boot Key". In general the term "ICS BL" means my patched BL, which you can find in my signature. There is a bunch of guides to get it flashed on the forum, and blackthunder made a tool to simplify the process.
Skrilax_CZ said:
A500 works differently: the stock ICS BL is locked and cannot be unlocked from fastboot. What we can do however, is to flash custom BL, since we know the device "Secure Boot Key". In general the term "ICS BL" means my patched BL, which you can find in my signature. There is a bunch of guides to get it flashed on the forum, and blackthunder made a tool to simplify the process.
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Alright, so I do not need to do
Option 1 use Afterota for A500/G100W IF YOU ARE ON OTA ICS and follow this thread
or
Option 2 , keep reading.... don't be a chicken , just do it !!.
then I just need to use blackthun3r tool? I tried it but when I launch A500APXFLASH.EXE it ask me for a SBK and the guide said this "the v0.4 APX flash tool will give your SBK automaticly !!" but its blank it has not given me SBK automatically. So I was directed to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810618
which has the "SBCalc "
which then directed me to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1624645
which reads
GET ME MY CPUID!!!
There are 2 different cpuid
ICS CPUID has only 13 digits/characters and is your "serial no." as reported in settings, on your sdcard cover and on the box
we are only interested in the 15 digit HC CPUID this can only be got:
(1) From a PC using Blackthund3rs A500 manager
(2) From your device using Terminal Emulator App
(3) From USBDeview must have previously used the Tab under HC with the PC you're using
(4) From a uid.txt in any Honeycomb-cwm backup in external_sd/clockworkmod/backup/"your_HC_backup" folder
(5) From adb devices if you're running honeycomb
(6) From cwm 1.7.2 via on screen display and a text file - great if you are on ICS already
(7) Master_Ellis has posted that he found the HC cpuid in /sys/firmware/fuse/acer_cpuid - add a zero to the front!!!
please if anyone uses this let us know if this is correct!!!
thanks Master for the heads Up!!!
(8) Gersma's most excellent OTA Toolmakes most of this thread obsolete!!!! Thankyou Gersma for all you've done OTA Tool is all anyone ever needs....
Features :
I don't get it though, I thought you said all I needed was the blackthund3r apx flash utility. I'm really confuse, can you specify what I need to do?
I went back to the original thread where the blackthund3r flash tool is and it clearly says
"3-When it askes for your SBK you need to type it in , the v0.4 APX flash tool will give your SBK automaticly !!"
But I do not see the SBK come up automatically. Man all I want is to be able to flash roms ;/ Can you specify what I need to do please I do not want to jump the gun here and brick my device. I see two files in the zip file, a500 Manager v1.0.2 and Apx Flash Utility v0.4
Alright I figured out what I was missing and manage to go through the whole process easily. I have Apex now but how do I install CWM or TWRP? WHen I go into recovery I get a dead android.
Lots of trials and errors lol so I figured out Recovery only works the first time, is there any way to have CWM on there permanently?
Update
Recovery always works now, wasn't sure if that was a glitch or what. Anyways, thanks Skrilax, that little piece was enough for me to get going. I understood the guide once I knew what I needed which required me reading a few threads. Guide kinda needs to be tweaked a little.
F9zSlavik said:
Lots of trials and errors lol so I figured out Recovery only works the first time, is there any way to have CWM on there permanently?
Update
Recovery always works now, wasn't sure if that was a glitch or what. Anyways, thanks Skrilax, that little piece was enough for me to get going. I understood the guide once I knew what I needed which required me reading a few threads. Guide kinda needs to be tweaked a little.
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Recovery not sticking is due to having a stock rom. Rooting with ICS Root 7.1.1 stops this
Sent from my Iconia A500 using Tapatalk 2
Just noting: stock recovery won't work, and if you ever applied OTA, booting Android will overwrite recovery, unless you remove the updater. And for the guides, all will work, some are more automated, some less.
I'm not able to flash V8 UNL BL and I don't know why.
I will describe every step I made:
My PB G100W was on stock HC 3.2.1 - stock HC BL so:
- Downgraded to unstable 3.0.1 Acer, rooted, installed recovery (1.7) by Acer Recovery Installer v3.03, backed up by TB and Full Nandroid Backup
- Downloaded both tools (AfterOTA & Blackthunder's tool), first try by AfterOTA, got all info (CPUID&SBK), started with "Bootloader ICS V8&Recovery Thor 1.7.3", ok it does its things, but stucks at "3/4 Recovery ...", no way to carry on. 5,10,15 minutes, no way. Aborted.
- Tried with the second tool, all done following the instructions, APX mode it's ok, but stops at "Flashing Bootloader (EBT) stage two - uploading image...", and no keep on.
- Tried with BT's tool, adding just BL file (Skrillax's site download) , now it's about 30 minutes that it's working and nothing.
What is wrong with the tab?
Please help me
EDIT: I think that I'm in the wrong section..
MadMav88 said:
I'm not able to flash V8 UNL BL and I don't know why.
I will describe every step I made:
My PB G100W was on stock HC 3.2.1 - stock HC BL so:
- Downgraded to unstable 3.0.1 Acer, rooted, installed recovery (1.7) by Acer Recovery Installer v3.03, backed up by TB and Full Nandroid Backup
- Downloaded both tools (AfterOTA & Blackthunder's tool), first try by AfterOTA, got all info (CPUID&SBK), started with "Bootloader ICS V8&Recovery Thor 1.7.3", ok it does its things, but stucks at "3/4 Recovery ...", no way to carry on. 5,10,15 minutes, no way. Aborted.
- Tried with the second tool, all done following the instructions, APX mode it's ok, but stops at "Flashing Bootloader (EBT) stage two - uploading image...", and no keep on.
- Tried with BT's tool, adding just BL file (Skrillax's site download) , now it's about 30 minutes that it's working and nothing.
What is wrong with the tab?
Please help me
EDIT: I think that I'm in the wrong section..
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Check this thread... I think it will help you. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425
Yep, I know, that was the starting-point, but no way to figure out how solve my problem.
Already tried few methods...
MadMav88 said:
Yep, I know, that was the starting-point, but no way to figure out how solve my problem.
Already tried few methods...
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Sent you a PM about running an RUUs file.
Other methods to try.
1. Make sure you have a good USB cable. They are not all created equal.
2. Try using a different USB port (use one connected to the PC mainboard).
3. Disable anti-virus on the PC.
4. Seems Win 7 gives the most consistent results. XP is also good.
MD
A very simple question, how to install any of the JB roms? Just because i can't find any good simple guide. And i am not familiar with this device, i know how to flash with CWM and such. (I have experience with other devices) But i see that there is someting with a CPUID and a SBK or something? Please explain how to install those roms.
I did some research and is it sufficient to install the acer recovery app to get cwm on your tablet, (3.x) and then install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930672 or this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935582
WITHOUT patching the unlocked ICS bootloader?
It's important to get your CPUID # and save it on .txt file on PC somewhere.
ALL ICS + JB Roms have Different Bootloader then older HC.
It is best to go to to Unlocked ICS Bootloader. Do lots of reading.
A great method to use is APX, then later once on you can change your Recovery to CWM, TWRP, etc
But either way you'll Need your CPUID.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425
Run a SBK Generator, enter in your CPUID #, and then Get your own SBK Code.
Later when using APX, enter your info.
ktmdave7 said:
It's important to get your CPUID # and save it on .txt file on PC somewhere.
ALL ICS + JB Roms have Different Bootloader then older HC.
It is best to go to to Unlocked ICS Bootloader. Do lots of reading.
A great method to use is APX, then later once on you can change your Recovery to CWM, TWRP, etc
But either way you'll Need your CPUID.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425
Run a SBK Generator, enter in your CPUID #, and then Get your own SBK Code.
Later when using APX, enter your info.
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Oke, so i should use that blackthunder program and get my cpuid and sbk. then i can use that program to flash my tab in APX mode? And is it dangerous to flash the bootloader? i mean, if your bootloader gets stuck on a galaxy tab or something it needs to be repaired.
I'm trying to explain it the best way I know (might be slightly Politically incorrect with terms) TRY to get the Knowldege as a whole...
-"ICS Unlocked Bootloader 0.03.14-MUL" is for Acer A500 Tablet (it's custom for our tab's) I would NEVER put another Tab's "Bootloader" on our tab.
- I think you meant Flashing another BASED ROM on tab...That is OK.
*** Example Thor2002 HC 14.2 is based on ASUS's ROM, but has CODE for ACER...
*** All Acer A500 JB ROM's (will be BASED on a LEAK from another source (AOKP, ACER A700 ?), then DEV adds/changes in some Acer A500 code to make them work)
-Fact (to my knowledge) : ACER A500 has not had a JB Leak, cus they have never Made a JB ROM
-Maybe a DEV would Use a ACER A200, A501, A700, etc ROM (which sounds more close to ours) then they USE it's JB (if there is a LEAK'd ROM out)
-Dev has to take into Consideration that Bigger ACER ROMS, Might not have Tegra 2 (Dual Core 1000 Mhz stuff) (One Had Tegra 3, some have 1200 Mhz (more Mhz probably doesn't matter) A501 has 3G (so DEV would make Custom ROM with only Wi-Fi , Rip out 3G stuff or change Code lines)
Back to your Question :
1a. I already have flashed a few of the JB roms on Acer a500 and can Flash to Any other JB or ICS Roms (Without changing BOOTLOADER)
1b. I only changed to my ICS Unlocked Bootloader ONCE. Never have to change again, (Unless I want to goto a HC ROM -then I would have to change to older HC Unlocked bootloader)
2a. Some Flash different RECOVERY's (but keep same Unlocked Bootloader)
2b. Current Versions Flash Recovery (for ICS Unlocked Bootloader) : TWRP-2.3.1.0, Thor2002ro-1.7.3 , A500PubRecovery-0.2, AmonRA-Iconia-3.17
***AmonRA v3.16 is for HC, AmonRA v3.17 is for ICS
Awesome ICS ROM: Lightspeed 4.8 (Acer 1.031 based). His ROM checks to see if u have HC, or ICS bootloader, then install the correct HC, or ICS (Kernel or boot.img).
The Way I Understand It is...
1. ICS Bootlader = ICS, JB Roms, Older HC Bootloader=HC ROMS
2. If you Start with any ICS, or JB ROM (the DEV had removed bootloader.blob + Recovery) so you can keep your Bootloader, and Recovery in tack.
3. if you are 100% STOCK Acer A500 ROM ({NO ROOT SuperSU or Superuser}, Stock Bootloader (which is LOCKED), Stock Recovery (can't change, or flash ROM's)
4a. In past on HC ROM's, many would get Stuck on locked bootloaders, and have to REVERT back to HC 3.01 methed, which means install a very unstable HC 3.01 rom just long enough (like 3 minutes) to get Acer Recovery (from market), ROM manager, CWM recovery...so you could flash Superuser.zip and eventually be on HC 3.2.1 with Stable ROM (or anything)
4b.***(NOW, we have to change out bootloaders to goto to ICS (for the most part) or JB {Exception example: Lightspeed 4.8 is ICS ROM (that will accept older HC Bootloader, I'm sure few others ICS have it}
More info here on stuff : Post #5
I got the bootloader but what now?
ktmdave7 said:
I'm trying to explain it the best way I know (might be slightly Politically incorrect with terms) TRY to get the Knowldege as a whole...
-"ICS Unlocked Bootloader 0.03.14-MUL" is for Acer A500 Tablet (it's custom for our tab's) I would NEVER put another Tab's "Bootloader" on our tab.
- I think you meant Flashing another BASED ROM on tab...That is OK.
*** Example Thor2002 HC 14.2 is based on ASUS's ROM, but has CODE for ACER...
*** All Acer A500 JB ROM's (will be BASED on a LEAK from another source (AOKP, ACER A700 ?), then DEV adds/changes in some Acer A500 code to make them work)
-Fact (to my knowledge) : ACER A500 has not had a JB Leak, cus they have never Made a JB ROM
-Maybe a DEV would Use a ACER A200, A501, A700, etc ROM (which sounds more close to ours) then they USE it's JB (if there is a LEAK'd ROM out)
-Dev has to take into Consideration that Bigger ACER ROMS, Might not have Tegra 2 (Dual Core 1000 Mhz stuff) (One Had Tegra 3, some have 1200 Mhz (more Mhz probably doesn't matter) A501 has 3G (so DEV would make Custom ROM with only Wi-Fi , Rip out 3G stuff or change Code lines)
Back to your Question :
1a. I already have flashed a few of the JB roms on Acer a500 and can Flash to Any other JB or ICS Roms (Without changing BOOTLOADER)
1b. I only changed to my ICS Unlocked Bootloader ONCE. Never have to change again, (Unless I want to goto a HC ROM -then I would have to change to older HC Unlocked bootloader)
2a. Some Flash different RECOVERY's (but keep same Unlocked Bootloader)
2b. Current Versions Flash Recovery (for ICS Unlocked Bootloader) : TWRP-2.3.1.0, Thor2002ro-1.7.3 , A500PubRecovery-0.2, AmonRA-Iconia-3.17
***AmonRA v3.16 is for HC, AmonRA v3.17 is for ICS
Awesome ICS ROM: Lightspeed 4.8 (Acer 1.031 based). His ROM checks to see if u have HC, or ICS bootloader, then install the correct HC, or ICS (Kernel or boot.img).
The Way I Understand It is...
1. ICS Bootlader = ICS, JB Roms, Older HC Bootloader=HC ROMS
2. If you Start with any ICS, or JB ROM (the DEV had removed bootloader.blob + Recovery) so you can keep your Bootloader, and Recovery in tack.
3. if you are 100% STOCK Acer A500 ROM ({NO ROOT SuperSU or Superuser}, Stock Bootloader (which is LOCKED), Stock Recovery (can't change, or flash ROM's)
4a. In past on HC ROM's, many would get Stuck on locked bootloaders, and have to REVERT back to HC 3.01 methed, which means install a very unstable HC 3.01 rom just long enough (like 3 minutes) to get Acer Recovery (from market), ROM manager, CWM recovery...so you could flash Superuser.zip and eventually be on HC 3.2.1 with Stable ROM (or anything)
4b.***(NOW, we have to change out bootloaders to goto to ICS (for the most part) or JB {Exception example: Lightspeed 4.8 is ICS ROM (that will accept older HC Bootloader, I'm sure few others ICS have it}
More info here on stuff : Post #5
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I installed the unlocked bootloader and wanted to load up the recovery, but it gives a yellow exclamation sign in an android logo. Also when i try to go into recovery mode with a500manager it loads up Honeycomb. When i check my bootloader it is the unlocked CZ bootloader V8. Also i can't enter fastboot with a500 manager. It seems that i do not have a recovery. So i downloaded the acer recovery installer but it requiers root wich i don't have. i already tried different bootloaders like the standard revcovery and the thor 1.7.3 but nothing works. When i load up the tab there is something like CZ Skrillax bootloader v8 Loading primary kernel image.
Do you know why i can't enter recovery?
P.S sorry for bad english.
XFXXFX said:
I installed the unlocked bootloader and wanted to load up the recovery, but it gives a yellow exclamation sign in an android logo. Also when i try to go into recovery mode with a500manager it loads up Honeycomb. When i check my bootloader it is the unlocked CZ bootloader V8. Also i can't enter fastboot with a500 manager. It seems that i do not have a recovery. So i downloaded the acer recovery installer but it requiers root wich i don't have. i already tried different bootloaders like the standard revcovery and the thor 1.7.3 but nothing works. When i load up the tab there is something like CZ Skrillax bootloader v8 Loading primary kernel image.
Do you know why i can't enter recovery?
P.S sorry for bad english.
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How did you try to enter recovery? "CZ Skrillax bootloader v8 Loading primary kernel image" indicates that you push just the power button. That commands the tablet to boot to whatever OS you have installed. You should hold volume down then push power until the device vibrates. Then you release power while holding still volume -. After a second or two, the "CZ Bootloader V8" would appear along with "loading recovery" on the second line. Then release volume.
Another way, and I've been able to replicate this numerous times on mine, is while the screen is showing "loading primary kernel image" to tap power and release it quickly. MIne would go into recovery that way.
graphdarnell said:
How did you try to enter recovery? "CZ Skrillax bootloader v8 Loading primary kernel image" indicates that you push just the power button. That commands the tablet to boot to whatever OS you have installed. You should hold volume down then push power until the device vibrates. Then you release power while holding still volume -. After a second or two, the "CZ Bootloader V8" would appear along with "loading recovery" on the second line. Then release volume.
Another way, and I've been able to replicate this numerous times on mine, is while the screen is showing "loading primary kernel image" to tap power and release it quickly. MIne would go into recovery that way.
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I already tried that but it did not help at all. It just show the android logo with exclamation sign. I update the tap with the OTA ICS update and root it and install acer recovery and reflash the bootloader and see what happens. Do you have another idea?
XFXXFX said:
I already tried that but it did not help at all. It just show the android logo with exclamation sign. I update the tap with the OTA ICS update and root it and install acer recovery and reflash the bootloader and see what happens. Do you have another idea?
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The original question from you was how to install JB Roms. But you keep insisting on installing ICS stock (OTA). What are you really trying to do? I'd suggest that you help yourself by reading the relevant threads in here first before asking for more help. For example, are you aware that mixing unadulterated ICS stock with V8 is a no-no?
XFXXFX said:
I already tried that but it did not help at all. It just show the android logo with exclamation sign. I update the tap with the OTA ICS update and root it and install acer recovery and reflash the bootloader and see what happens. Do you have another idea?
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u r running stock rom and its overwriting yr custom recovery.....this is all explain ed in the OP of the bootloader guide....reflash bootloader/cwm
1. if u r stock ics then root it
2. delete boot.p file
3. nvflash bootloader/cwm
4. boot to cwm flash jb rom
done...
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Fixed
Sorry for late response.
I updated the tab with OTA ics, and used the blackthundr program to root, then i saw a option to remove the recovery protection. So i used that, and reflashed the unlocked bootloader. Everything worked! I could boot into recovery and installed JB. Everything's fine now. Thx for advice!
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XFXXFX said:
Sorry for late response.
I updated the tab with OTA ics, and used the blackthundr program to root, then i saw a option to remove the recovery protection. So i used that, and reflashed the unlocked bootloader. Everything worked! I could boot into recovery and installed JB. Everything's fine now. Thx for advice!
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Since your problem has been solved, you might want to edit the title of your thread and add the word "SOLVED" so other members know you don't need help anymore.
Hello every one
After i try the new Android v4.2.1 rom by randomblame i want to get back to v4.1.2 but i did not format data this is what i think that brick my A500
So i recovered my device via EUUs_SBK_Acer_A500_1.016.05_COM_GEN1
but after that i couldn't flash any ics rom or ics bootloader
every time i try to flash ics bootloader with "blackthund3r_A500_APX_Flash_Tool_v0."@ the device stock during the process and stock in apx mod so i have to recover it again and so on
i have try : BabSector to format partition and try Afterota after th euus recovery but without luck
i can't even flash ics on hc bootloader "lightspeed 4.8"
now i'm running hc 3.2.1 rom by civato
what i'm doing wrong ? Help Please
I'm really missing CM10
bad English ....sorry
haytham-88 said:
Hello every one
After i try the new Android v4.2.1 rom by randomblame i want to get back to v4.1.2 but i did not format data this is what i think that brick my A500
So i recovered my device via EUUs_SBK_Acer_A500_1.016.05_COM_GEN1
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So you can boot into the OS OK??
Did you root it?
You may have to take an OTA or update.zip to 3.1 first and flash the v8 from that as I'm unsure it will work from 3.0.1
but after that i couldn't flash any ics rom or ics bootloader
every time i try to flash ics bootloader with "blackthund3r_A500_APX_Flash_Tool_v0."@ the device stock during the process and stock in apx mod so i have to recover it again and so on
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is their an "apx device" listed in hardware and printers or in your pc system tray?
do you get "acer apx mode" displayed on your tab?
now i'm running hc 3.2.1 rom by civato
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go to the root guide in my sig and Make absolutely certain you do the first 4 steps in that guide.
d/l the latest apx Flash manager tool v 1.0.2 and use the bundle market in it to install bundle #17
OR
use civato's nvflash package instead as this requires your tab to be in apx mode (black screen/pwr lite on) to work AND will give you a more specific error if it fails.
Once the flash is complete BOOT STRAIGHT TO CWM and flash your cm10.1 rom
THEN Do a factory/data reset and enable wipe of /data/ media (in mounts/storage menu) wipe cache and dalvik cache too. Reboot to cm 10.1!!!
Please do all the steps in the order they are given -
If "it doesn't work" we will need you to tell us what is or isn't happening and where in the process it fails!!!
Good luck
Thank you for reply
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So you can boot into the OS OK??
Did you root it?
You may have to take an OTA or update.zip to 3.1 first and flash the v8 from that as I'm unsure it will work from 3.0.1
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Yes I can
It's rooted because it is a custom ROM with CWM Recovery 1.3.4 by Thor
Is it OK to flash the ICS Bootloader from HC 3.2.1 "Civato-FLEXSTRIKER-HC.3.2.1 R6-BASE"?
is their an "apx device" listed in hardware and printers or in your pc system tray?
do you get "acer apx mode" displayed on your tab?
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Yes their is an "apx device"
and my tab shows "entering apx mode..." or something like that ! with ACER logo
go to the root guide in my sig and Make absolutely certain you do the first 4 steps in that guide.
d/l the latest apx Flash manager tool v 1.0.2 and use the bundle market in it to install bundle #17
OR
use civato's nvflash package instead as this requires your tab to be in apx mode (black screen/pwr lite on) to work AND will give you a more specific error if it fails.
Once the flash is complete BOOT STRAIGHT TO CWM and flash your cm10.1 rom
THEN Do a factory/data reset and enable wipe of /data/ media (in mounts/storage menu) wipe cache and dalvik cache too. Reboot to cm 10.1!!!
Please do all the steps in the order they are given -
If "it doesn't work" we will need you to tell us what is or isn't happening and where in the process it fails!!!
Good luck
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"USB drivers from the Android SDK" on step 1 maybe that is what I need
So I'll give it a try and tell you what happens.
And again thank you for your help.
Well..
I followed your root guide and used Civato's nvflash package, lots of things happened.
file no 1 is the first result
then file no 2 , here is where I get stuck in apx mode again !!
errors i get :
error formating partition 4
error formating partition 6
The thing is, not every time I try to recover my tab it works
I succeed only once of every 15 tries to recover my tab.
so maybe some partitions are messed up or something.
One time, I tried to flash Civato's nvflash package again , and after few times the bootloader was flashed correctly, but the recovery wasn't !!
So, I tried to use fastboot to flash the recovery ... and it went O.K
After that, I restarted to recovery, formated data (factory reset) , cache , delvik cash, flashed the rom, rebooted the tab ...... but nothing happened !!
and i'm stuck here
I've done lots of searching around the forums and most of them recommend BabSector or tdv4_rollback_rom or EUUs .
only EUUs are working, and even that would work one time of around 10 to 20 tries.
do i have to flash the primery kernel via fastboot , and if so, how to get the kernel from the rom?
thanks in advance
haytham-88 said:
Well..
I followed your root guide and used Civato's nvflash package, lots of things happened.
file no 1 is the first result
then file no 2 , here is where I get stuck in apx mode again !!
errors i get :
error formating partition 4
error formating partition 6
The thing is, not every time I try to recover my tab it works
I succeed only once of every 15 tries to recover my tab.
so maybe some partitions are messed up or something.
One time, I tried to flash Civato's nvflash package again , and after few times the bootloader was flashed correctly, but the recovery wasn't !!
So, I tried to use fastboot to flash the recovery ... and it went O.K
After that, I restarted to recovery, formated data (factory reset) , cache , delvik cash, flashed the rom, rebooted the tab ...... but nothing happened !!
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Boot to fastboot mode
Fastboot erase userdata, cache, system and flexrom - use separate command for each partition, note any write errors and post back.
Fire up apxflash tool....you MUST dump, save then use your tabs BCT when u get to that window - this should repair the bct error shown in the 2nd text file.
Also tick "show nvflash commands " this will show any read/write or partition errors..
If you get partition errors run babsector (d/l in the root guide) and follow the steps I posted there.
Boot directly to recovery and try flashing a rom again
I've done lots of searching around the forums and most of them recommend BabSector or tdv4_rollback_rom or EUUs .
only EUUs are working, and even that would work one time of around 10 to 20 tries.
do i have to flash the primery kernel via fastboot , and if so, how to get the kernel from the rom?
thanks in advance
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No u shouldn't have to flash a kernel its included in the rom.
A full and complete erase is required first
(If there are errors here like can't read/write or bad data....your tab is toast) if not,
The bct error must be repaired next, else your tab won't flash any rom at all, even if the tool says PASS
Then reset your partitions with babsector.far
(Any errors like those listed above....your tab is toast)
With all the errors you're having its pointing to a faulty chip, flashing should not be this problematic.
Be sure to follow the direct order of repair....otherwise you'll be compounding errors
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk 2
Sorry for my late reply
I didn't run apxflash tool I have try something before that I have flash a HC rom over the ICS bootloder "it is wrong I know" but it went OK and the tab boot to the rom!!!!!!!!!
So now I have ICS bootloader with HC rom. what is going on ??
I have a new long work "13 hour" and I can't spend alot of time with my tab but I want to understand what is wrong with my tab
I'm really thankful for your time.
haytham-88 said:
Sorry for my late reply
I didn't run apxflash tool I have try something before that I have flash a HC rom over the ICS bootloder "it is wrong I know" but it went OK and the tab boot to the rom!!!!!!!!!
So now I have ICS bootloader with HC rom. what is going on ??
I have a new long work "13 hour" and I can't spend alot of time with my tab but I want to understand what is wrong with my tab
I'm really thankful for your time.
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Well, thats different!!!
Are you running stock HC or is it a custom one?
Which recovery are you using?
Download Acer Recovery Installer from the market, it will tell you your bootloader version. You will need root priveleges to run this
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Well, thats different!!!
Are you running stock HC or is it a custom one?
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A custom rom, Civato-flexstriker-hc.3.2.1 r6
Which recovery are you using?
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CWM Recovery v5.5.0.x(thor2002ro/digetx rev1.7.3)
Download Acer Recovery Installer from the market, it will tell you your bootloader version. You will need root priveleges to run this
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Bootloader Version: 0.03.14-MUL
and i can acsses Skrilax_CZ's bootloader V8 bootmenu Mode and all of it's functions
i think that i did not understand the bootloader thing yet!!!
haytham-88 said:
A custom rom, Civato-flexstriker-hc.3.2.1 r6
CWM Recovery v5.5.0.x(thor2002ro/digetx rev1.7.3)
Bootloader Version: 0.03.14-MUL
and i can acsses Skrilax_CZ's bootloader V8 bootmenu Mode and all of it's functions
i think that i did not understand the bootloader thing yet!!!
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ok lets start with the bootloader and why we need it...
On most android devices your first step to flashing a custom rom is to root so you can flash a custom recovery....
With our Acer Tabs since HC 3.2 the bootloader is locked...meaning even having root access did not give us the ability to 'flash' a custom recovery - its just not possible....the only way to do it is with the "patched" bootloader - I don't know how the magic works, but the devs managed to find a way to 'trick' the system into allowing their version of "patched bootloader" to be installed which would allow the flashing of a custom recovery....and there is a very specific way of getting this patched or unlocked bootloader onto your tab....this is with a program called "nvFlash" which runs via "apx mode" or "acer download mode" using our tabs unique ID, the cpuid.....to make it even easier The devs created a "package" which will nvFlash the patched bootloader AND a custom recovery all in one go!! Once we'd done that all we needed to do was to boot straight to recovery and flash our desired ICS or JB rom!!!
In the beginning, way back in the day....some folks weren't at all comfortable going to these lengths just to have a custom rom, so some of the rom cooks gave us the choice to upgrade to the patched bootloader or to stick with the HC bootloader, by flashing a custom HC kernel after the bootloader flash....this is what you were alluding to earlier??
Most roms now only work with the patched bootloader i.e. skrilax_cz 3.14 MUL -v8
keep in mind these are ICS and JB roms...
I hope that provides a bit more understanding on the bootloader thing and why we need it...
Now back to your original problem, not sure why you cannot flash a JB rom, have you tried it again??? I just cannot think of anything that would prevent you from flashing anything except an HC Rom - You might wanna ask the question in the JB rom thread...there might have been specific steps you needed to take to downgrade from 4.2 (can't think what though) or others may have posted similar problems...sorry couldnt help you out ....
...but let us know how you get on, good luck!!
Finally I have moved from HC to JB and that is how :
- ubdating the bootloader from v8 to v9
- nothing changed trying to flash any rom I already have
- then and I don't know why I download an Android 4.3.1 from TegraOwners forums [WIP]A500/A501 JB-MR2(4.3.1) - V8t6
link http://forum.tegraowners.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1312
flash the rom and everything went OK !!!
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Finally I have moved from HC to JB and that is how :
- ubdating the bootloader from v8 to v9
- nothing changed trying to flash any rom I already have
- then and I don't know why I download an Android 4.3.1 from TegraOwners forums [WIP]A500/A501 JB-MR2(4.3.1) - V8t6
link http://forum.tegraowners.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1312
flash the rom and everything went OK !!!