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Could someone please explain what nandroid is.
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jamietuffen said:
Could someone please explain what nandroid is.
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Hello,
nandroid is a backup tool. It is run from recovery mode, and makes a copy of the internal memory of the phone and saves it on the SD-card. It can also backup the apps installed on the SD-card in the same manner. It is often used when flashing new roms to the phone, since it provides a means to fully restore the phone to the previous state.
Br,
Henrik

So if i did a nandroid back up on my phone it would back up everything onto my sd card and then restore it to its original state (ie nothing).
J
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Yes, the nandroid image on the SD card is an exact copy of the relevant parts of the phones internal storage, so when doing a restore everything will be back as it were before. If, however, you have apps installed on the SD card using Froyos apps2sd (which stores the applications on the ordinary fat32 partition of the SD card) those applications is not backed up. Nandroid includes functionality for backing up apps installed on a ext partition, though.
Personally I use Titanium backup to backup applications when I'm changing ROMs.
Br,
Henrik

Does Nandroid overwite previously made backups, or will it make a new backup every time? In case of the latter, can you choose from recovery wich backup you want to restore?
(Before I flashed my Hero, I made a Nandroidbackup of the original ROM. I don't want risk loosing this backup when I make another Nandroidbackup.)

I think it overwrites, but i'm not sure.

No, it doesn't overwrite the old backups. You can choose which image to restore.
Br,
Henrik

Tanks for your reply!

How to backup old rom

Hi,
I want to install this rom over a old one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010498
How do I back up the old one and install this one?
And save all the info like Whatsapp, Facebook, Msn messenger data?

For me the best solution is Titanium Backup. Always does its job

xda_apprentice said:
Hi,
I want to install this rom over a old one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010498
How do I back up the old one and install this one?
And save all the info like Whatsapp, Facebook, Msn messenger data?
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It depends on what type of backup you want. Do you want to restore the apps onto new rom?
You can boot into clockworkmod and do a nandroid backup. This would backup entire nand. You would just simply then flash same nand partition and restore rom back when needed.
If you simply want to backups your apps/app data then you can either do the nand backup and then use appextractor to restore apps from the backup to new rom or you can use Titanium Backup to backup/restore all your apps/app data.

TheATHEiST said:
You can boot into clockworkmod and do a nandroid backup. This would backup entire nand. You would just simply then flash same nand partition and restore rom back when needed.
If you simply want to backups your apps/app data then you can either do the nand backup and then use appextractor to restore apps from the backup to new rom or you can use Titanium Backup to backup/restore all your apps/app data.
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but I use CWM to backup my typhoon CM7,
When I restore it,
the apps will lost thier icons
and all games savedata will lost too,,,

loselover said:
but I use CWM to backup my typhoon CM7,
When I restore it,
the apps will lost thier icons
and all games savedata will lost too,,,
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Really?! I've done this before and all worked fine, but I always use Titanium Backup as a failsafe method.

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loselover said:
but I use CWM to backup my typhoon CM7,
When I restore it,
the apps will lost thier icons
and all games savedata will lost too,,,
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You are probably using a buggy version of CWM and it isn't backing up your app data from sd-ext maybe.

Or he's only choosing to restore sd-ext and not data too.

TheATHEiST said:
It depends on what type of backup you want. Do you want to restore the apps onto new rom?
You can boot into clockworkmod and do a nandroid backup. This would backup entire nand. You would just simply then flash same nand partition and restore rom back when needed.
If you simply want to backups your apps/app data then you can either do the nand backup and then use appextractor to restore apps from the backup to new rom or you can use Titanium Backup to backup/restore all your apps/app data.
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Thanks for your reply everyone. The issue is I am in the process of changing my sd card as I currently have a 1gb card. And most roms recommend at least 2 gb or more.
Yes indeed I do want to copy all apps/memory into new rom if possible?

what happen to the paid app after flashing new rom

Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the destop settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?

wildcolor said:
Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the destop settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?
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Some launchers let you backup icon placements and such on the home screen. Also, as long as you use the same Google account you originally bought stuff from Google Play with on your new ROM or any other devic, you can download it again for free. Also Titanium Backup is an incredible app that will backup apps settings as well, so if you are thinking of getting it, go for the paid version, it's worth a least 4 times as much as it costs.
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krion64 said:
Some launchers let you backup icon placements and such on the home screen. Also, as long as you use the same Google account you originally bought stuff from Google Play with on your new ROM or any other devic, you can download it again for free. Also Titanium Backup is an incredible app that will backup apps settings as well, so if you are thinking of getting it, go for the paid version, it's worth a least 4 times as much as it costs.
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Thanks for the reply. I bought TitaniumB already. But, if I do a full wipe, I actually also delete the Titanium app and the file it backuped, didn't I?

wildcolor said:
Thanks for the reply. I bought TitaniumB already. But, if I do a full wipe, I actually also delete the Titanium app and the file it backuped, didn't I?
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Not if you leave the "sdcard" partition alone. You can wipe data and keep that data (which has your TB info) intact. Same goes for any backups/nandroids you performed with TWRP or CWR.

kpjimmy said:
Not if you leave the "sdcard" partition alone. You can wipe data and keep that data (which has your TB info) intact. Same goes for any backups/nandroids you performed with TWRP or CWR.
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It might be a stupid question, but What is TB short for? Also, the Nexus 7 only has one internal 'sdcard', by partition, did you mean that I could set many partitions like what we do under windows (i.e., C: , D: , E: ) ?

TB is titanium backup but I would just use es file explorer or something similar to back up the apps to the sd card
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wildcolor said:
It might be a stupid question, but What is TB short for? Also, the Nexus 7 only has one internal 'sdcard', by partition, did you mean that I could set many partitions like what we do under windows (i.e., C: , D: , E: ) ?
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You can but that's a totally different question/thread/answer. LOL What you want is to just flash a new rom after a wipe and to restore all your apps. It is ok to wipe your device, just do NOT wipe the internal SD card. That will wipe the rom you want to flash and other goodies. Another tip is to create an update.zip of your titanium backup program so that when you first flash your ROM, you can flash the update.zip right after. In Titanium backup, hit menu-"create update.zip". This will place the update.zip (titanium backup program) on your internal SDcard so you can flash it later.
Please delete the update.zip after you have your device up and running to avoid any confusions down the road. You can create the titanium backup "zip" file at any time and takes seconds to do. GL

thanks for all the reply.
I thought a full wipe would delete all user data (apps and all files) and was afraid to try to do the full wipe. Obversly, I was wrong. The wipe doesn't delete everything.

wildcolor said:
thanks for all the reply.
I thought a full wipe would delete all user data (apps and all files) and was afraid to try to do the full wipe. Obversly, I was wrong. The wipe doesn't delete everything.
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Nope the rom's data partition is seperate from the sdcard partition. A regular wipe of the data, cache, dalvic cache, and system doesn't delete the storage (sdcard) partition, they're kept seperate for that reason among others.
You have to actually tell it to wipe the sdcard partition in order to wipe it. Also, note that in recovery, wiping the data and cache partition is sometimes called "factory reset". I know in TWRP recovery it is, not sure about clockwork. If you know you're in recovery, the factory reset is perfectly safe, it only wipes data and cache. It's completely seperate from similar options that are in the rom (in settings) or in the factory bootloader.
When you see us referring to "Make sure you wipe completely" it's probably confusing, but we aren't referring to the sdcard and external storage. We are just referring to what's necessary for a proper rom install, which is data, system, dalvic cache, and cache.

CharliesTheMan said:
It's completely seperate from similar options that are in the rom (in settings) or in the factory bootloader.
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That is exactly what I confused about.
Thanks a lot. Thanks meter added again for the generous reply.

[Q] Backup procedure so tedious? Whats your method?

Im not a noob user, but im not obsessed with changing ROMS daily. However when I want to try a new ROM I procrastinate because I find the whole process so tedious. I have TB Pro, and backup all apps and data, without the system data though. After flashing a new ROM, the setup of everything takes so long. Nova launcher, all my widget placements, options etc. And often times, Im missing data from an app.
With the N7 as well I gotta transfer all the mp3s as well because a full wipe clears everything out.
Is there an easier way? Am I missing something here? What is your procedure for a quick way to change a ROM.
Thanks for your time and input.

You're wasting a lot of time and effort by wiping your virtual sd card partition when changing roms. You don't need to wipe it and copy everything back again.
Keep your mp3s and titanium backups on the device, though no harm in making a local copy of your TitaniumBackup folder on PC or cloud for safekeeping.
When you change roms, a full wipe just needs a wipe of everything except the sdcard.
I've also use titanium backup pro. the batch backup and restore of user apps and data has never failed me, never lost any data. it's time consuming with a lot of apps, but at least you can select all and let it do its thing.
nova launcher should also have an option to create a local backup of all your home screen preferences and settings etc, don't know if it includes the widget layout, possibly some limitations there.
Titanium backup pro can make flashable zips of all your user apps and data, which you can simply flash after installing a rom, though i've never tried it, just used to batch restore within the app. you may have to reboot in between flashing this zip. guide will be out there somewhere. EDIT: found it, menu->batch actions, then scroll down, there's an option under 'Recovery'.
So procedure:
- Titanium backup of all user apps + data (create flashable zip)
- Nandroid backup (just in case!)
- Full wipe (not virtual sdcard partition)
- Flash Rom
- Reboot
- Boot back into recovery and flash the zip of your backups.
Yeh can be time consuming, but a lot is automated. Saves a lot more time than needlessly backing up all of your sd card partition, wiping and restoring it :good:
Give it a try next time, might try it myself.

eddiehk6 said:
You're wasting a lot of time and effort by wiping your virtual sd card partition when changing roms. You don't need to wipe it and copy everything back again.
Keep your mp3s and titanium backups on the device, though no harm in making a local copy of your TitaniumBackup folder on PC or cloud for safekeeping.
When you change roms, a full wipe just needs a wipe of everything except the sdcard.
I've also use titanium backup pro. the batch backup and restore of user apps and data has never failed me, never lost any data. it's time consuming with a lot of apps, but at least you can select all and let it do its thing.
nova launcher should also have an option to create a local backup of all your home screen preferences and settings etc, don't know if it includes the widget layout, possibly some limitations there.
Titanium backup pro can make flashable zips of all your user apps and data, which you can simply flash after installing a rom, though i've never tried it, just used to batch restore within the app. you may have to reboot in between flashing this zip. guide will be out there somewhere. EDIT: found it, menu->batch actions, then scroll down, there's an option under 'Recovery'.
So procedure:
- Titanium backup of all user apps + data (create flashable zip)
- Nandroid backup (just in case!)
- Full wipe (not virtual sdcard partition)
- Flash Rom
- Reboot
- Boot back into recovery and flash the zip of your backups.
Yeh can be time consuming, but a lot is automated. Saves a lot more time than needlessly backing up all of your sd card partition, wiping and restoring it :good:
Give it a try next time, might try it myself.
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Thanks for the reply and detailed response. Just seems when I do the full wipe it wipes out the SD card on the N7 which is internal. Or perhaps its the flash of the ROM. Anyway, the standard wipe on TWRP is not supposed to include the internal storage. Ill try again listing your outline.
Thanks

Hightower68 said:
Im not a noob user, but im not obsessed with changing ROMS daily. However when I want to try a new ROM I procrastinate because I find the whole process so tedious. I have TB Pro, and backup all apps and data, without the system data though. After flashing a new ROM, the setup of everything takes so long. Nova launcher, all my widget placements, options etc. And often times, Im missing data from an app.
With the N7 as well I gotta transfer all the mp3s as well because a full wipe clears everything out.
Is there an easier way? Am I missing something here? What is your procedure for a quick way to change a ROM.
Thanks for your time and input.
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You probably already know it but nova launcher has its own backup/restore feature,that sets up your widgets/desktop layout/etc. Although I get your point it can be a chore getting everything setup again, like wifi passwords, alarms and other settings.
What holds me back from flashing rooms on the n7, is having multi user set up, as I haven't found a way to backup/restore the other persons apps/settings/data which is a pain.
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Hightower68 said:
Thanks for the reply and detailed response. Just seems when I do the full wipe it wipes out the SD card on the N7 which is internal. Or perhaps its the flash of the ROM. Anyway, the standard wipe on TWRP is not supposed to include the internal storage. Ill try again listing your outline.
Thanks
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Dont use the manual wipe data option. Just do factory reset from recovery. No need to do anything else to wipe
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Changing Roms

Hi all,
When I visit XDA I always notice a new ROM for the moto g4 plus. I immediately wanted to try them but whenever I install a ROM I will lose all the data. Sometimes I try to dirtly flash the ROM but I doesn't work most of the time. My question is how can I backup most of my data so I can use it on the new ROM?

There is 3rd option for backup in TWRP, It will Backup your current ROM and Installed apps and their data only, but not your photos/videos or any personal data....
And now read this carefully - if you are wiping partitions read their name before wiping, dont wipe internal memory, external memory or OTG... Wiping them will erase everything on your phone or pendrive(if connected), wipe only those partitions whose backup you have made ( delvik-cache, cache, data, system )
Note again- don't wipe SDcard partitions, it will erase your personal data....
For safety it's better to copy your personal data to PC or Computer....
I hope you read my ENGLISH carefully.....

__Madddy said:
There is 3rd option for backup in TWRP, It will Backup your current ROM and Installed apps and their data only, but not your photos/videos or any personal data....
And now read this carefully - if you are wiping partitions read their name before wiping, dont wipe internal memory, external memory or OTG... Wiping them will erase everything on your phone or pendrive(if connected), wipe only those partitions whose backup you have made ( delvik-cache, cache, data, system )
Note again- don't wipe SDcard partitions, it will erase your personal data....
For safety it's better to copy your personal data to PC or Computer....
I hope you read my ENGLISH carefully.....
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But I still wouldn't have the apps installed right?

claytoncamilleri100 said:
But I still wouldn't have the apps installed right?
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Yes...
If you wipe DATA and install ROM then you will have to install all apps again... But when you restore Backed ROM then everything will be same as when you backed that...

You can save your app and data with titanium backup, it can help too.

What I do is
Backup ur apps using titanium backup
Now flash a new ROM , wiping cache , dalvic cache, system, data..
Now restore all ur apps using titanium backup pro ( crack titanium backup using lucky patcher)
Why I m saying to use pro version because you don't need to tap install on every app, it automatically installs WITH DATA ..it also doesn't take much time..
So finally you have ur apps with data !
Note : don't wipe internal storage while flashing new ROM ..so ur media files will not be lost
Hope this helps!

I think you mean "buy" titanium backup pro? :angel:

titou4488 said:
I think you mean "buy" titanium backup pro? :angel:
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No, just install lucky patcher with BusyBox ..
Than apply custom patch for titanium backup ..
No need to buy pro !
If you still have doubts ..pm me