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i had a very bad experience with nand backup/restore very recently and wanted to share it with the community and hear any feedback or suggestions where i eventually did wrong.
First of all i have to state i am a newbe on Android and have just started learning how to do some mods via the great help of this forum.
here is my case: I have partitioned my SD and moved all existing apps to the newly created partition via recovery mode. When I reboot no apps showed (i am not sure apps2sd is missing or what) therefore I decided to restore my earlier backup which went trhough succesfully but guess what ? ..... the phone did not reboot anymore and it arrived only up to the HTC flashing logo and got stuck there.
I had to find the stock rom again (sorry i forgot to mention i was using the stock rom) and reflash it from scratch which finally made it to work. thanks to shipped-roms.com !!!
My first guess is that for some reason the restore did not work and i got into a sort of loop mode because i tried moving all apps to SD before rebooting and this did not work properly.
does anyone have any idea of what could have been the problem ? I will provide any addiotional specifics if needed.
pardol said:
i had a very bad experience with nand backup/restore very recently and wanted to share it with the community and hear any feedback or suggestions where i eventually did wrong.
First of all i have to state i am a newbe on Android and have just started learning how to do some mods via the great help of this forum.
here is my case: I have partitioned my SD and moved all existing apps to the newly created partition via recovery mode. When I reboot no apps showed (i am not sure apps2sd is missing or what) therefore I decided to restore my earlier backup which went trhough succesfully but guess what ? ..... the phone did not reboot anymore and it arrived only up to the HTC flashing logo and got stuck there.
I had to find the stock rom again (sorry i forgot to mention i was using the stock rom) and reflash it from scratch which finally made it to work. thanks to shipped-roms.com !!!
My first guess is that for some reason the restore did not work and i got into a sort of loop mode because i tried moving all apps to SD before rebooting and this did not work properly.
does anyone have any idea of what could have been the problem ? I will provide any addiotional specifics if needed.
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hi
app2sd has to be cooked into the rom and cannot be installed separately into the rom so have u used a rom with apps2sd in it im using Jacobs 1.5 which has apps2sd and i have done ext3 part & to my knowledge u need to do ext3 part for apps2sd to work
hope this helps
Actually you can install apps2sd after flashing a rom without. Just flash the darktremor skript you find in the forum. It depends on the rom if it's working fine or not. It worked for me with modaco r3.
Thank you for your help. As I stated originally i am using the original shipped rom and I have flashes a modified recovery where I can both partition the sd, do an ext2 to ext3 and eventually move all applications to the sd, however when I did it they all disappeared. Because all seemed to be available via the recovery menu is did it without checking more but I will need to do so since my Tattoo is already full.
I have not read around anyone saying that original Roms cannot install apps2sd. Am I wrong?
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pardol said:
Thank you for your help. As I stated originally i am using the original shipped rom and I have flashes a modified recovery where I can both partition the sd, do an ext2 to ext3 and eventually move all applications to the sd, however when I did it they all disappeared. Because all seemed to be available via the recovery menu is did it without checking more but I will need to do so since my Tattoo is already full.
I have not read around anyone saying that original Roms cannot install apps2sd. Am I wrong?
Sent from my HTC Tattoo using XDA App
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As I already said you can install the apps2sd script. But it is not installed by default. So if you want to use it you have to install it first. The rom can not detect your apps on the ext partition because you have not activated a2sd. You can find it here.
sandrome said:
As I already said you can install the apps2sd script. But it is not installed by default. So if you want to use it you have to install it first. The rom can not detect your apps on the ext partition because you have not activated a2sd. You can find it here.
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this is great thank you. just a last request: is it possible to remove and return all apps to the internal memory in case I want to restore as it is now ?
in addition does this work for all apps even if they are not setup to be running from SD card ?
sorry if i am asking so many questions but given my previous bad experience i want to make sure i am not going to screw up everytning again....
I don't know if there is a command in the a2sd script that can remove those files from your sd. Maybe a2sd remove in an adb shell, but I'm not sure. You can move any app to your sd with this script. The other thing is for froyo. I think you don't even need an ext partition on 2.2.
Thank you very much for your help!
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Ok so I installed an Android NAND Rom on my HD2, this is my 3rd ROM I have tried, all the others were fine, but with this one I have no internal memory, it shows up as 0.00b (completely empty) and I am trying to figure out what I can do to fix this problem.
I tried switching back to old ROM's but that did not work. I have also cleared my cache on my phone, that did not work either, anything you guys can do to help me?
Is there anything I can do to use my SD card as my default memory? I have a 16GB card but I can't install apps onto it. I can't install any apps at all. Nothing works.
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TechBurrow said:
Ok so I installed an Android NAND Rom on my HD2, this is my 3rd ROM I have tried, all the others were fine, but with this one I have no internal memory, it shows up as 0.00b (completely empty) and I am trying to figure out what I can do to fix this problem.
I tried switching back to old ROM's but that did not work. I have also cleared my cache on my phone, that did not work either, anything you guys can do to help me?
Is there anything I can do to use my SD card as my default memory? I have a 16GB card but I can't install apps onto it. I can't install any apps at all. Nothing works.
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Which ROM you used?
Please goto ROM Thread and ask cooker about that and flash follow his suggestion
thats what im trying to say to everyone - read through your ROM thread, there must be some instructions on how to make it work.
but i never had this problem.
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ok so i installed an android nand rom on my hd2, this is my 3rd rom i have tried, all the others were fine, but with this one i have no internal memory, it shows up as 0.00b (completely empty) and i am trying to figure out what i can do to fix this problem.
I tried switching back to old rom's but that did not work. I have also cleared my cache on my phone, that did not work either, anything you guys can do to help me?
Is there anything i can do to use my sd card as my default memory? I have a 16gb card but i can't install apps onto it. I can't install any apps at all. Nothing works.
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boooooooo !
Har har har har !
hum ...................
It may be lame suggestion, but try to install stock WinMo rom, and again MAGRLD and different version of CWM_Recovery.
But first try only whit different version of CWM_Recovery.
vasil.domuschiev said:
But first try only whit different version of CWM_Recovery.
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+1 on this answer, @OP,sounds like you have flashed a large cwm partition layout that has taken up all the space for the system partition, a 400 one perhaps?
Same problem
TechBurrow said:
Ok so I installed an Android NAND Rom on my HD2, this is my 3rd ROM I have tried, all the others were fine, but with this one I have no internal memory, it shows up as 0.00b (completely empty) and I am trying to figure out what I can do to fix this problem.
I tried switching back to old ROM's but that did not work. I have also cleared my cache on my phone, that did not work either, anything you guys can do to help me?
Is there anything I can do to use my SD card as my default memory? I have a 16GB card but I can't install apps onto it. I can't install any apps at all. Nothing works.
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Same issue here. Installed MIUI 2.9.29 on HD2 Leo. Internal memory shows 0.00B, which cannot be true. I did a complete wipe before installing ROM. Actually, after installing I did also factory reset/wipe cache/ wipe Dalvik, but nothing helps.
Searched for solution on this site and elsewhere, the only plausible advice is "clean reinstall", which is cumbersome for me.
Thanks if you share your thoughts.
EDIT: I used 150MB partition.
samsamuel said:
+1 on this answer, @OP,sounds like you have flashed a large cwm partition layout that has taken up all the space for the system partition, a 400 one perhaps?
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lol, this is what happened when I partitioned my NAND to 400/5 & installed Boxmax Sense 3.5 after flashing I have 0.00mb meme left :silly:
I'w got annoying problem after coming from wp7 to android. All my installed apps will disappear after i reboot my phone, even those that are in internal memory. Why is this happening and is there any solutions?
which rom do you use,have you formatted your sd properly, very strange case, i've heard first time...
mutil said:
which rom do you use,have you formatted your sd properly, very strange case, i've heard first time...
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Rom i'm using now is this. I formatted my sd card with cwm
E: Now i'm trying HD2 coredroid hd
now i exactly use tyween's typhoon rom with no problem.
mutil said:
now i exactly use tyween's typhoon rom with no problem.
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okay installed original winmo, partitioned sd card and changed rom to this. Now its working properly.
Strange bug anyways
E: I think it happened because of coming straight from wp7 to android
can someone link me a how to or guide, i have the android on my sd running smoothly but i beed a guide on how to install it to the phones internal memory, i mean do i have to install windows stock rom in order to get it on the phone? or can i install it like it is now??? i just dont see any info on this partiicalluar situation
you cant (easily) move an sd build onto nand. You would probably do better to backup your contacts and stuff and go find a NAND rom you like the look of. start fresh.
i guess what im asking is there anything i need to do to prepare the device for the internal android install? i dont wanna copy and paste the install from sd to internal but im asking do i need to install windows 6.5 the original rom first or ican i just flasj it aka load it how my phone is now??? this i havent encoutered yet, and i want to make sure im doing all my steps right, if i need to just find a rom (NAND) and install it how they say???
and btw, the sd andorid version said it was nand but just on a sd build, weird huh? lol im also hearing that some of the sd builds are running faster than the NAND internal ones, can anyone speak of this?
ah well you may find that there are two download links in the thread perhaps? cant really comment, never taken much notice of sd android, , it never worked through haret/winmo for me, so i went straight to nand.
im using the gingerbread 2.3.7. by the way, is there any new ones or ones that you reccomend? im not picky just want somethign stable, fast and nice, htc sense or not doesnt matter let me know NAND btw
geezy21unc said:
im using the gingerbread 2.3.7. by the way, is there any new ones or ones that you reccomend? im not picky just want somethign stable, fast and nice, htc sense or not doesnt matter let me know NAND btw
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which one? half the roms are 2.3.7, just saying 'im on gingerbread 2.3.7' doesnt help much, , ,, far better to give the name, since there are so many variants.
here is the one i have
http://hottipscentral.com/how-to-install-android-gingerbread-2-3-7-on-the-t-mobile-htc-hd2/
is that the process you followed? If yes, then its already on nand rom. That article is about flashing typhoon (one of the most popular roms) to nand.
yes i followed it to a Tee, lol so your saying its already on the internal phone memory??? ok then so your saying i can take out my SD and it will still boot? hmmm and typoon is what the zip file i have says, can you help me a bit further im following you so far but want to make sure im seeing this right and doiong it step by step thx for replying
watch the video at the bottom of the page from youtube thats on there, thats the step i followed
sorry this is the one i have installed not sure how i got the other , but this is the correct one :Cyanogen MOD 7 Gingerbread 2.3.7
yea thats NAND. there isn't an sd version of typhoon.
yes you can take your sd out and it should boot. (if you have an EXT partition on your sd card ((i didn't watch the whole vid, but it wasn't mentioned)) then any apps you have installed wont be there till you reinsert teh sd card.)
you need to read read read, there are four or five important parts to nand android.
bookmark THIS starting point, and start browsing threads in the Q&A section and NAND development.
basically, your key components are
hspl 2.08.hspl - don't touch this again, android wont work on any other.
radio - fine, you wont need to touch this again any time soon, as with the hspl.
magldr, hold power to start it, the only option you will use is 8 - ad recovery, which starts cwm
cwm (cwr, clockworkmod clockwork, clockwork recovery) which is what starts when you choose AD recovery in magldr, you flash your roms from here, wipe your data from here, factory reset (back to android, not a real factory reset), , you can usb transfer in cwm, the one in magldr corrupts large files.
The cwm 'partition size' is 150 ( i think thats what he chose?) This is the inportant piece of info you need if changing to a different rom, since different roms need different sized system partitions.
You can change this in the tookit you used.
thx thx and thx!!! thats what i needed to know
Check out EasyAndroid, with it you can flash NAND Android from stock HD2 in 30min.
I like useing the clk loader as you do not see it load as you boot the phone, and you can use the android boot to recovery option.
if you already have and SD Android i would download TitaniumBackup and make a backup of all of your aps, as you can use this to save your aps across any Android Rom.
Have fun with NAND Android,
ive thanked everyone that has responded to this thread why does my thanks meter still say 0...lame
geezy21unc said:
ive thanked everyone that has responded to this thread why does my thanks meter still say 0...lame
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Lol mate, that's how many thanks you've received, not how many people you've thanked. i.e. if someone thanks you, your thanks meter increases. If you thank someone else, nothing is affected for you, only for the other person. Hope that's cleared it up
geezy21unc said:
ive thanked everyone that has responded to this thread why does my thanks meter still say 0...lame
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Don't get mad bro As soon as you understand all these NAND and android things you can help new members, they will thank you when you help them
i flash my htc hd2 with (nand) Android gingerbread 2.3.2
everything goes fine
but after installation my ph didnt support sd card and my data connection is not working.
i searched whole forum but didnt find help regarding this
please help thanks mandeep
msbhamrba said:
i flash my htc hd2 with (nand) Android gingerbread 2.3.2
everything goes fine
but after installation my ph didnt support sd card and my data connection is not working.
i searched whole forum but didnt find help regarding this
please help thanks mandeep
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well first off we need alot more information
like what rom did you flash for starters
msbhamrba said:
i flash my htc hd2 with (nand) Android gingerbread 2.3.2
everything goes fine
but after installation my ph didnt support sd card and my data connection is not working.
i searched whole forum but didnt find help regarding this
please help thanks mandeep
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Whichever ROM you're using is extremely old, so it may have even been a known issue of that ROM (although I highly doubt that) but we need more information as Kamerius said. For the mobile network issue, have you checked that the APN settings are correct?
thanks for reply but...
Thanks to all who replied but as I am new I tell you how I proceeded
I installed active sync in my PC then I flash my HTC hd2 with HSPL4
Then I flash radio 2.15.50.14
Then magldr 113
Then android 2.3.2 all by DFT
Problems that I am facing are
When I insert SD card (on top of the phone)-message. Comes SD card safe to remove and when I try to mountt same message appear, and some times it says SD card is busy. But I tried new sd card and same problem appears
Second problem mobile is not sync up with PC.
Thanks please. Help
msbhamrba said:
Thanks to all who replied but as I am new I tell you how I proceeded
I installed active sync in my PC then I flash my HTC hd2 with HSPL4
Then I flash radio 2.15.50.14
Then magldr 113
Then android 2.3.2 all by DFT
Problems that I am facing are
When I insert SD card (on top of the phone)-message. Comes SD card safe to remove and when I try to mountt same message appear, and some times it says SD card is busy. But I tried new sd card and same problem appears
Second problem mobile is not sync up with PC.
Thanks please. Help
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Well, can you link me to that ROM please? I wasn't aware that there were any ROMs by DFT outside of the Stock Desire one, so I'd like to see it (although it isn't necessary of course).
You're using an extremely old and outdated method of flashing anyway, everything nowadays is flashed via CWM. See this guide and start by using the wipe data thing in MAGLDR, then just skip to flashing CWM with the correct partition sizes etc. It might not necessarily solve your issue, but you might as well do it nonetheless.
Are you trying to insert the SD card after the phone has booted? Just leave it in the phone and turn it on, I don't see any reason it shouldn't work other than if it was a known bug of the ROM or if your SD card is the one with the issues.
I'm confused about your second issue. The OP says that your data connection isn't working (data being mobile network) but the second post says that it's the USB connection to the PC that isn't working? Which one is it? Or are both of them not working?
msbhamrba said:
Thanks to all who replied but as I am new I tell you how I proceeded
I installed active sync in my PC then I flash my HTC hd2 with HSPL4
Then I flash radio 2.15.50.14
Then magldr 113
Then android 2.3.2 all by DFT
Problems that I am facing are
When I insert SD card (on top of the phone)-message. Comes SD card safe to remove and when I try to mountt same message appear, and some times it says SD card is busy. But I tried new sd card and same problem appears
Second problem mobile is not sync up with PC.
Thanks please. Help
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My suggestion - flash HSPL 2.08 - from what I heard it's much less buggy and I haven't heard anyone having issues with that.
one thing more
Mine mobile
is anomaly htc hd2 its not from T-Mobile, I purchased it in India only.
msbhamrba said:
Mine mobile
is anomaly htc hd2 its not from T-Mobile, I purchased it in India only.
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That's fine, it just means it's an EU/International HD2 rather than a TMOUS. The only difference (spec-wise) is that it has 512Mb ROM rather than 1024Mb
Daycrawler said:
My suggestion - flash HSPL 2.08 - from what I heard it's much less buggy and I haven't heard anyone having issues with that.
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HSPL4 means the package which is used to flash HSPL2.08, it's not a SPL version in itself. The highest SPL/HSPL version is 3.03.
sync
Sync with PC is not working ,mobile conn
ction started after setting. Apn manually.
msbhamrba said:
Sync with PC is not working ,mobile conn
ction started after setting. Apn manually.
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OK, well as I said try following the guide I posted, as nobody uses the DAF.exe flashing method anymore.
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Is it possible to get window6.5 back, please provide me the link and way.
Or any other android which is fully compatible with. HTC. Hd2
msbhamrba said:
Is it possible to get window6.5 back, please provide me the link and way.
Or any other android which is fully compatible with. HTC. Hd2
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Please, just read the guide I posted. Every single version of Android which is in the NAND Development section is 'fully compatible' with the HD2. If you don't do some more reading I refuse to help you, sorry.
Nigeldg said:
Please, just read the guide I posted. Every single version of Android which is in the NAND Development section is 'fully compatible' with the HD2. If you don't do some more reading I refuse to help you, sorry.
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thsnaks for the guide
one last thing could you please suggest me best rom a2sd or nand which works with cwm
msbhamrba said:
thsnaks for the guide
one last thing could you please suggest me best rom a2sd or nand which works with cwm
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There is no 'best ROM', it's all a matter of opinion. I prefer ICS ROMs such as NexusHD2 and IceCreamTosti because of the HWA capabilities, but you may not like them. It varies between each user. If you decide to flash one of these, you can create an EXT partition on your SD card and use the app Link2SD from the Play store to use that partition.
Nigeldg said:
There is no 'best ROM', it's all a matter of opinion. I prefer ICS ROMs such as NexusHD2 and IceCreamTosti because of the HWA capabilities, but you may not like them. It varies between each user. If you decide to flash one of these, you can create an EXT partition on your SD card and use the app Link2SD from the Play store to use that partition.
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thanks for you help till now
i succ sefull y installed [16 MAY 2012][MAGLDR/cLK]TyphooN CyanogenMod 7.2 RC2 v3.8.3[2.3.7][A2SD+][tytung r14] through cwm everything is workign fine
but iw ould like to ask you one thing like you said "If you decide to flash one of these, you can create an EXT partition on your SD card and use the app Link2SD from the Play store to use that partition" i created partion using cwm and installed aap2sd from the market its working great,
but i dont that the partion created by cwm is ext or not
one thing more wht is the difference between ics roms and other roms
msbhamrba said:
thanks for you help till now
i succ sefull y installed [16 MAY 2012][MAGLDR/cLK]TyphooN CyanogenMod 7.2 RC2 v3.8.3[2.3.7][A2SD+][tytung r14] through cwm everything is workign fine
but iw ould like to ask you one thing like you said "If you decide to flash one of these, you can create an EXT partition on your SD card and use the app Link2SD from the Play store to use that partition" i created partion using cwm and installed aap2sd from the market its working great,
but i dont that the partion created by cwm is ext or not
one thing more wht is the difference between ics roms and other roms
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Did you follow the guide I linked fully? Including step number 2 - partition your storage card for a2sd ROMs? If so, then this is an EXT partition which you have created on your SD card with CWM. If you meant repartitioning the NAND with CWM (i.e. in your case flashing a 150Mb partition) then this is NOT on the SD card and isn't an SD EXT. However, since you have stated that the app App2sd works fine, I think you've done everything correctly. Congrats, you now have a fully functional Android HD2.
The ROM you chose (TyphooN) is a very good one, I used it myself as my standard ROM for the whole of 2011 and a bit of 2012 and it was absolutely great, but right now I personally feel that ICS ROMs are better. ICS is simply the latest version of Android (GB is Android 2.3, ICS is Android 4.0) and it's the best version of Android by far. As well as this, ICS ROMs have full Hardware acceleration. This basically means that games and videos will play a LOT faster on ICS than on GB.