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How to keep the WiFi on?

Does anyone know how I can keep the WiFi on when the phone goes into snooze mode? (i.e. when it turns "off" after a few minutes, or when you tap the power button.)
I'm curious, because I've loaded Skype on it. I've configured Skype to WiFi only, and when I'm home, it's WiFi connected. But after a few minutes of inactivity, the phone goes into snooze mode, and the WiFi is turned off. So if I want to be able to receive Skype calls, I've got to keep the phone fully on all the time. Ideally I'd like to let the phone go into snooze mode but keep the WiFi part running so I can receive Skype calls. (Just like I can receive cell calls when the phone is in snooze mode.)
Any ideas?

you can set skype to keep the phone ON. check settings [or options in skype]

Keeping WiFi on
I did enable that setting in Skype. It didn't seem to help. Whenever the phone goes into snooze mode, the WiFi always seems to be disabled.

odd mine stays on what version of skype are you using?

Hmmm, perhaps an old Skype?
I've got v2.1.0.65. I know v2.2beta is out, but I fear all beta software
Perhaps this is related: I've noticed that every time my phone wakes up, the WiFi cycles and reconnects. I've turned off the "Auto turn off WLAN if not connected" setting. It's acting like the WiFi is always turned off when the phone goes into standby/snooze mode. I'm wondering if there's a setting somewhere that I'm just missing.
BTW: I'm on HTC ROM 1.35.255.2 (if that makes any difference).

WiFi does not stay connected when any device goes into suspend mode (8525, laptop, etc). That is why MS Direct Push only works over cellular connection. Your best option for skype is to force the phone to not go into suspend. Curious to know your battery usage.

We have the same ROM [1.35.xx] I have beta 2.2 of Skype on my device. Just tested it device stayed on as long as I was signed in. My device shut itself down after 1 minute [this is what I set in Power] once I exit Skype.

Ah, then perhaps the beta version fixed that setting.
Can you try this and tell me if it works?:
1. Log into Skype via WiFi.
2. Tap the power button to go into standby.
3. Ask someone to call you on Skype.
4. Does you phone wake up and ring?
nickshertzer:
Yeah, that's what I'm seeing. I'm wondering if there's a way to keep the WiFi on in standby mode. I've tried keeping my phone on all the time, but:
1. It gets a warm (worries me a little)
2. All the buttons are active, so if I put it in the belt holder, some of the buttons eventually get pressed
3. Battery life is...concerning (dropped from 100% down to 50% for a good 10-hr work day.).

bnycastro said:
We have the same ROM [1.35.xx] I have beta 2.2 of Skype on my device. Just tested it device stayed on as long as I was signed in. My device shut itself down after 1 minute [this is what I set in Power] once I exit Skype.
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I think what he is trying to tell us is, if he has skype running his phone wont go into standby. it keeps running...

tapping the power button will put the device in standby and power down wifi and I will be disconnected from skype. try skype 2.2 beta and see if the device stays awake.

Right. I should have been a little more clear in my question.
Is there a way I can keep the WiFi on when the phone goes into standby mode?

I think it's been commented that VJEschaton keeps wifi on (it wasn't designed for Hermes) - I tested it briefly on my Hermes and it just seemed to lock up the phone after switching off.
However, VJEschaton (on other devices) forces the wifi on and doesn't register it for power management features. Which means that it doesn't (or shouldn't) respond to requests to disable it. This could be considered a bug that I intend to fix when I get around to it, but could potentially be considered a plus depending on your disposition.
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Interesting. Can you tell me how VJEschaton kept the WiFi on?
Was it a registry setting, or a program?

Was there ever a solution to this to keep Wifi on when the Hermes goes to standby. I am not interested in Skype though, I just want the Wifi always on just like the GPRS stays on when device goes to standby.

your battery will probably not last a day if you do this

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your battery will probably not last a day if you do this
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I only want to do it sometimes. When I am at my house I would rather have the Wifi on instead of using GPRS, but i still want the device to go to standby to conserve a little power.

still no solution ? I am also trying to find out how to turn off power management for WIFI so that if it goes into standby, wifi is still working.
It is annoying if I am downloading a large file and if I set power off to a few mins. When I turn on the device from standby, download disconnected and Wifi only starts to reconnect.
Hope there is a way to do this. Any reg key ?

Wifi functionality relies on OS functions that wouldn't be available in standby mode. Even if the wifi radio could be left powered on when the phone is in standby, it wouldn't be able to wake it up on activity like bluetooth does.
And for the record, according to BatteryStatus: TyTn on, with BT and phone enabled (Edge), backlight off = 35mA current consumption.
Same with WiFi on = 270mA
I let you figure out the saving. For the key thing, just use the device lock today plugin...

if you use skype or im+ they have a setting to keep the device awake while connected.

That's not the point, the question was about how to still have WiFi on without having to keep the device awake...

Screen off but not sleeping??

Last night I used my phone for about 43 minutes before going to bed. Then I put my phone into Airplane mode and turned off the screen. When I woke up this morning, my phone was 10% less battery, and then I find this:
How the heck is my phone off but not sleeping? And what is using the battery???
I couldn't get a screenshot of other stuff before the plugged in stuff reset, but Partial wakelock usage was Android System. In About Phone -> Battery, the largest was Display followed by Cell Phone Idle. (Again, screen was off, and phone was in airplane mode.)
Why is it off but not "sleeping"?? What the heck is going on here??

I'm having the exact same issues.
Which process on your phone is using the most network usage?
battery history>select networkusage
Mine is 1013, and I don't know what it is.
I also put the phone in airplane mode at night, and compared to your 10% loss, mine was 45 in 4 1/2 hours

cypher21 said:
I'm having the exact same issues.
Which process on your phone is using the most network usage?
battery history>select networkusage
Mine is 1013, and I don't know what it is.
I also put the phone in airplane mode at night, and compared to your 10% loss, mine was 45 in 4 1/2 hours
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Yep, 1013.
Unfortunately, it's hard to tell if this is really the top used overnight, since the "unplugged" history resets as soon as I plug in power. I'll check again tomorrow morning if it is the most used for overnight.
I doubt it is though, because in airplane mode, there should be 0 network usage, shouldn't it?...
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When in airplane mode nothing should be using network since there is no network available. However i am guessing some process is trying to usenetwork and maybe it lists that under battery history.

Yay! I woke up this morning and my phone did not lose a single percentage of battery life!
I used TasKiller to absolutely kill all running apps before going to bed And of course, made sure to start the clock app again (even though ignored) just in case!
I guess apps in the background really do waste a ton of battery!!!
No idea what 1013 is or what else might be causing it to not sleep, but killing all apps before going to bed seems to be the only solution.
I'm not sure if this is an Android issue, or badly written apps issue.

You almost had it, let me fix...
Paul22000 said:
I guess badly written apps in the background really do waste a ton of battery!!!
Need to find out what 1013 is or what else might be causing it to not sleep so I can uninstall it.
I'm sure this is a badly written apps issue.
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Much better
I do not have this 1013 on my phone, so it has to be something you have installed. Further my phones sleep and onscreen times fairly closely match up, and I do not kill any app what so ever. If you're unable to run debugging directly, I would suggest uninstalling app's one or two at at time starting with the lesser main stream ones.

AHA!!!! I've figured it out!!!
I've been closely monitoring my phone over the past 11 days, trying to spot when it goes into non-sleep mode. I've noticed this happens every few days, and trying to get the pattern down for what was causing it was extremely difficult since I seemed to always be running different things (or nothing at all). I have a Battery History shortcut (mapped by AnyCut) on my home screen, which I've been checking frantically every few hours (crazy yes ).
Well today I finally figured out what was causing it! It's not an App. And it's not an Android System app either. I finally found the pattern that this is frequently caused (but not always obviously) when putting the phone into Airplane Mode. For some reason, it seems closing down the connection sometimes will randomly prevent sleep mode, regardless if absolutely nothing was using the phone or data connection at the time the phone was switched to Airplane Mode.
This would explain why in the picture of my first post, it went into non-sleep mode immediately after I turned off the connection and went to sleep.
As for a fix, I've found that switching Airplane Mode off and back on (cycle the connection on/off) will allow it to sleep properly.
WOW, that took some detective work I can't believe it, but damn, that is weird. Anyone know why this would be happening? Anyone out there experiencing the same issues? (It's hard to tell unless you look at Battery History often, as in my first post. But I suspect if some of you do, you'll see the same thing I'm seeing.)

Yes I have seen the same thing but clearly it was happening prior to the first N1 update. Are you still seeing this problem after the update?
Paul22000 said:
AHA!!!! I've figured it out!!!
Well today I finally figured out what was causing it! It's not an App. And it's not an Android System app either. I finally found the pattern that this is frequently caused (but not always obviously) when putting the phone into Airplane Mode. For some reason, it seems closing down the connection sometimes will randomly prevent sleep mode, regardless if absolutely nothing was using the phone or data connection at the time the phone was switched to Airplane Mode.
WOW, that took some detective work I can't believe it, but damn, that is weird. Anyone know why this would be happening? Anyone out there experiencing the same issues? (It's hard to tell unless you look at Battery History often, as in my first post. But I suspect if some of you do, you'll see the same thing I'm seeing.)
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vsc said:
Yes I have seen the same thing but clearly it was happening prior to the first N1 update. Are you still seeing this problem after the update?
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Yes, quite often. Pretty much every time I put it into Airplane mode and turn the Wifi on.

[How-To] Better battery life, reduce Time Without Signal.

Alright, I don't remember who it was, but first off, I would like to thank the person that figured out how to check the radio mode.
UPDATE: You need to do this with the current IRC FroYo build as well.
First things first, I have personally tested this with DamageControl 1.0, with Flipz's .03 radio, and found it increased my battery life by 30-40%. I am using the stock 1500mAh battery. Please note that the option to change the preferred network type is not available in 1.5 ROMs, as 1.5 is GSM only. (HTC hacked in CDMA support)
NOTE: when you first open the testing menu, it will show it as CDMA auto (prl). This is a visual glitch, in reality, it is set to GSM auto (prl). If your TWS is around 50%, it means it's GSM auto (prl)
First things first, go into Settings> About Phone> Battery> Battery Use> Cell Standby. Assuming your phone has been on, or off the charger for ~10 minutes, it should show Time Without Signal at around 50%.
Next thing, press HOME, and bring up the dialer. Dial *#*#4636#*#* (Do not press "Call"). After a second, it should bring up the "Testing" menu.
Go into Phone Information, press MENU, and tap "select radio band." You should experience a Force Close, don't panic, this was supposed to happen. Scrolling down shows that the preferred network type is GSM auto (prl).
What this means is that even though you are connected to a CDMA network, your phone is trying to find a GSM network, preventing the radio from sleeping, and causing excessive battery drain.
Remedy this by tapping GSM auto (prl), and changing it to CDMA auto (prl).
Now your done, your TWS should drop dramatically, and you should experience much better battery life!
Note: You need to do this every time you reboot.

Confirmed. I did this a week ago. Even after a couple reboots, the setting sticks. I didnt see a huge increase but that is probably me.

Just followed your instructions but mine was already set to CDMA auto (PRL).
Thanks for the info though, I'll make sure to remind my friends to check theirs.

kbizzle said:
Confirmed. I did this a week ago. Even after a couple reboots, the setting sticks. I didnt see a huge increase but that is probably me.
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It doesn't actually stick. It's a visual glitch, the setting itself is still GSM auto (prl), but it displays CDMA auto (prl). First post updated to be more specific.

Thanks for this! I had tried the airplane mode toggle method before but it didn't work. Looks like this fix is holding.
Now, if only there was a way to make this survive (or at least start up after) a reboot.

watzone69 said:
Thanks for this! I had tried the airplane mode toggle method before but it didn't work. Looks like this fix is holding.
Now, if only there was a way to make this survive (or at least start up after) a reboot.
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Maybe someone more knowledgeable then I will make a script that runs at bootup to automagically change it,

As has been noted elsewhere, the application "Network" from the market also provides quick access to this setting.

5tr4t4 said:
As has been noted elsewhere, the application "Network" from the market also provides quick access to this setting.
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This is XDA. Let's do it the old fashioned way!

wow this really works.. thanks!

Should I assume I don't have this problem if I have no TWS showing in the battery usage?

abcdfv said:
This is XDA. Let's do it the old fashioned way!
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Then don't use Spare Parts.

I go in and make the change then I hit the home button and then go back into the Testing menu and check to see if the change stuck. After the force close it shows the GSM is still on. Is this a glitch or do I need to do something else to make it stick.

hmmm, wonder if the "Time without Signal" is a visual glitch, and the "better battery life" is the placebo effect...
nah..

I was the one that started the other thread about better battery life. Doing these steps does not help me at all. I have to go in and turn on airplane mode and then turn it off before I see my "time without a signal: start to go down.

sph33r said:
Should I assume I don't have this problem if I have no TWS showing in the battery usage?
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If you're not having a problem, TWS should be 0%.
srb7215 said:
I go in and make the change then I hit the home button and then go back into the Testing menu and check to see if the change stuck. After the force close it shows the GSM is still on. Is this a glitch or do I need to do something else to make it stick.
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When you Force Close, it resets back to the default.
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Then don't use Spare Parts.
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Spare what now?
regaw_leinad said:
hmmm, wonder if the "Time without Signal" is a visual glitch, and the "better battery life" is the placebo effect...
nah..
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I would agree with you, but after about a week of testing I've come to the conclusion that the amount of increased battery life I've seen is too big of a difference to be a placebo effect.
Any established dev want to back me up on this?

#1) This is the second time I have went in to change the network and it has never showed GSM (PRL). It is always CDMA (PRL). (Otherwise the first time I ever went in it already showed CDMA.)
#2) Even though it says CDMA if I try and change it and change it back I do not get a force close.
#3) I do have TWS issues as it creeps up throughout the day, the airplane trick does seem to help some.
#4) At my work my signal strength is very low and I normally have no bars or one bar. My battery seems to drain like crazy at work.
Did not know if anyone could help me make sense out of all of this.

crash447 said:
#1) This is the second time I have went in to change the network and it has never showed GSM (PRL). It is always CDMA (PRL). (Otherwise the first time I ever went in it already showed CDMA.)
#2) Even though it says CDMA if I try and change it and change it back I do not get a force close.
#3) I do have TWS issues as it creeps up throughout the day, the airplane trick does seem to help some.
#4) At my work my signal strength is very low and I normally have no bars or one bar. My battery seems to drain like crazy at work.
Did not know if anyone could help me make sense out of all of this.
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Thank you, I needed that diagram since I guess I refused to read instructions two different times. I really, really appreciate it.

as the famous andrew w.k. always says "these hips don't lie"

crash447 said:
Thank you, I needed that diagram since I guess I refused to read instructions two different times. I really, really appreciate it.
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You don't change it and change it back. You press menu> change radio band.
Then it force closes.

[Q] "Google Services" = "Battery Drain" , why the hell ??

Since a couple of days "Google Services" are serving to drain my battery when my device is in "idle state" ....
Yesterday night my battery was 97% charged & when I woke up it was 92% .....This was not the case earlier !!
Then I checked my battery usage which showed "Google Services" eating up 52%......
What may have triggered this "Google Services" to run in the background & eat up my precious battery ?? Any clues & any solution ??

I don't know why, but I've seen plenty of Play reviews complaining about it. You're not alone. Hopefully a patch comes out.
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turn location services off. That is what is causing it to run so high.

check this link:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...lay-services-seems-to-be-a-battery-hog-today/

Mine was running 40% Plus until I turned network locations off. randomly appeared out of the blue once I'd turned location on.

This ^. Same experience. Picture attached is from when I had location sources - use wireless network (on), after I unchecked it google services doesn't even show up in my battery stats anymore.

Known bug. You can improve it but never get rid of it until it's patched. I believe the bug is worse on versions earlier than KitKat, especially 4.3.
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I noticed battery drain after installing MJ7.

I had this problem, too, while location services were switched off but was able to solve it by switching the phone off, removing the battery for a minute, then performing a cache wipe in recovery mode and finally a reboot. IAW: a soft reset.
Batter Battery Stats widget showed me almost immediately that I was successful, after keeping my phone in stand by for a few minutes after the reset.
Normally you wait for at least an hour to get a good view on wake lock performance.
Before the soft reset the widget showed that my phone was awake all the time (no deep sleep bar, awake bar as big as phone on bar) although the screen was switched off,
After the soft reset the deep sleep bar showed a normal value (almost as big as the phone on bar, which it should be in stand by).
What puzzled me was that before the reset the wake lock bars were small while the awake bar was as big as the phone on bar. Very strange (no wake locks, but still a phone that won't go into deep sleep?), had not seen that before. But I'm a beginner on wake locks. Any expert cares to explain?
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I went on to uninstall the Google Play services update after awhile I notice deep sleep kicking in shown via the cpu spy app.
Is Google aware of this?
I was about to go down to a samsung service centre and ask for a battery replacement. Thank god for xda!
Cheers!
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the same here.
i have solved erasing cache and data from the proces.
now it's gone.
and i have localisation always on.
do that: trust me!

I also had this issue but after using the donated version of greenify it allowed me to hibernate both google play store and the services. My devices batterylife is very very epic now, even better then I had on my note 2!
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marci4na said:
the same here.
i have solved erasing cache and data from the proces.
now it's gone.
and i have localisation always on.
do that: trust me!
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Confirmed. It works.
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Yesterday, I got an update from Google Play Services (dated 22 nov 13)...
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After updating from MJ4 to MJ7, it happen the same to me. So i done a factory reset via recovery mode and solved the problem. My battery life improved a lot! So my recommendation is to do a factory reset in recovery mode.

WiFi always on.

Hi there, I'm writing from my Zuk now and I have a WiFi issue.
As from this screen of battery drain, my WiFi results always on, but it isn't.
I thought it was the "always scanning" feature, but it turned out it was disabled too.
I also tried to turn it on and off again, and it didn't work.
It's 6 pm and my battery is only at 43% whith non a deep use...any clue with that?
Others have this issue? Tried to Google on this forum but I didn't find anything.
Thanks to anyone who can help.
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After yesterday post, I tried to reboot the phone with WIFI turned OFF.
At the reboot, the WiFi was not in use and the indicator in battery stats was right.
Then i tried to TURN ON the WIFI, was connected several minutes, then i disconnected it, but the indicator in battery stats was still counting it as "WiFi on".
After a sencond reboot, the indication goes on normally as WiFi OFF".
So, my conclusion is: when i turn the WIFI ON, it's start to count as IN USE; then when i TURN IT OFF, it's still counted as IN USE, untill i apply a reboot.
I'm not sure if it's just a bug of indication, or if the WiFi really remain ON, despite of the indicator.
Curious to see if anyone else have this problem.
More, i would like to submit this bug, there is any way to do it?
thank you.

I suppose it's a google/lollipop bug because I had it on my note 4 and on any version of lollipop on it! Nothing I could do to make it go away!
However, to see this bug on a zuk is kind of a surprise to me because cyanogen usually fixes those nasty bugs!

Small update:
After yesterday post, I tried to reboot the phone with WIFI turned OFF.
At the reboot, the WiFi was not in use and the indicator in battery stats was right.
Then i tried to TURN ON the WIFI, was connected several minutes, then i disconnected it, but the indicator in battery stats was still counting it as "WiFi on".
After a sencond reboot, the indication goes on normally as WiFi OFF".
So, my conclusion is: when i turn the WIFI ON, it's start to count as IN USE; then when i TURN IT OFF, it's still counted as IN USE, untill i apply a reboot.
I'm not sure if it's just a bug of indication, or if the WiFi really remain ON, despite of the indicator.
Curious to see if anyone else have this problem.
More, i would like to submit this bug, there is any way to do it?
thank you.

Dagon84 said:
Small update:
After yesterday post, I tried to reboot the phone with WIFI turned OFF.
At the reboot, the WiFi was not in use and the indicator in battery stats was right.
Then i tried to TURN ON the WIFI, was connected several minutes, then i disconnected it, but the indicator in battery stats was still counting it as "WiFi on".
After a sencond reboot, the indication goes on normally as WiFi OFF".
So, my conclusion is: when i turn the WIFI ON, it's start to count as IN USE; then when i TURN IT OFF, it's still counted as IN USE, untill i apply a reboot.
I'm not sure if it's just a bug of indication, or if the WiFi really remain ON, despite of the indicator.
Curious to see if anyone else have this problem.
More, i would like to submit this bug, there is any way to do it?
thank you.
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Man that's what I told you! I have the same bug on my note 4! Exact same behavior! After reboot it goes well until I turn wifi ON again!
But rest assured that's a graphical bug only as far as my investigation revealed! Wifi is turned off and it's not ON!

Life Engineer said:
Man that's what I told you! I have the same bug on my note 4! Exact same behavior! After reboot it goes well until I turn wifi ON again!
But rest assured that's a graphical bug only as far as my investigation revealed! Wifi is turned off and it's not ON!
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Well, from your previous message I didn't understand you meant all you wrote here, because you wrote only that you had the same bug on note 4, nothing more ?
I hope they will fix this bug in the following updates.
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I am having this issue in CM13, any fix or workaround?

nimmur2000 said:
I am having this issue in CM13, any fix or workaround?
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Disable location scanning. It's not a CM but rather a google apps issue.

MrColdbird said:
Disable location scanning. It's not a CM but rather a google apps issue.
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How would I go about disabling location scanning?

I have disabled same bro.. But issue still exists..i am on nuclea Rom....

I did some testing myself and found out the issue. Even if you disabled some of those general wifi scanning features some apps have permission to scan for wifi and so you will see wifi is always on in the battery menu. The only way to truly fix that is if you go to privacy guard, if your ROM has it, go to advanced and then go through every single application and disable wifi scan. After doing this whenever i turned wifi on or off it showed in the battery stats. :highfive: