AT&T Tethering Plan Auto Upgrade Failure - Networking

So the other day AT&T sent me a text notifying me that they would start the 5 gig tethering plan rather than my 2 gigs that I always went over anyways. My billing period ended about thirty minutes ago, yet when I check my data usage it says that I still have only 2 gigs of data. They even mailed me notifying me that they changed it. I want the 5 gigs of data, but should I just go and change it on the account or what? I checked the account info just a minute ago and it said nothing about me having a 5 gig plan, just my normal 2 without tethering. I am posting this both for AT&T employees and 15 year old teens alike. I would like this to be corrected but since the account isn't in my name I don't want to change it currently. It is my dad's account and he just said it's still your bill, just a bit larger now. I just felt that I should notify people, however I am still a huge noob to these forums.

I got this same letter, the Tethering plan is $50 more a month. Right now im still on their Unlimited data plan, Im not sure how they know if im tethering or not. Im useing CM Internet Connection cab on my HTC TP2 running WM6.5 pro. tethering to my Ipod Touch 4, useing about 3-4 gb ah month ..

Anyone know a way to hide usage?

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T-Mobile DATA Plan Question ??

I currently have the Blackberry internet + 400 messages for $24.99.I just received my Nexus one today and checked the t mobile website for the android data service.Since when did the plan jump to $30 and no messages included?.
It used to be the same price when I had my G1.Will I be able to just use the Nexus one with the blackberry plan??
it's that way ever since the Nexus One was released. It's still $25 for G1, or mytouch.
So far my nexus is working just fine on the blackberry web plan.I'm not gonna change anything...don't want to loose the 400 messages.
I went from a MyTouch to Nexus and didn't change anything (even though someone told me I needed the Nexus data plan) and all is working well.
I went from Blackberry to Nexus and haven't changed my plan. Nexus works fine. Although I was trouble shooting some exceptionally poor battery life problems and on a different message board a couple people were indicating that battery life is affected poorly if you don't call TMO and have them switch something.
Sounded like crud to me, but a couple people were buying into it *shrug*
There is no Nexus data plan, there is only the Android Device data plan. Which is 30 bucks. So if you already have it your fine.
McFroger3 said:
There is no Nexus data plan, there is only the Android Device data plan. Which is 30 bucks. So if you already have it your fine.
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completely right.
it shows up as Android data or G1bogo data in the computers.
also for even more and even more plus, the pricing will be different.
It changed when the moved to the 'Even More' and 'Even More Plus' plans at the end of last year (I think that's when they did it). They also dropped the MyFaves at the same time.
Still using my suncom account with BB internet. Works fine no issues. Not changing a thing since I have unlimited everything for $59 a month.

ATT can detect unauthorized tethering. Forcing customers onto capped tethering plans

I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
This is old news. The release of Android 4.1 enabled carriers to see the difference between using data, and redistributing or tethering data.
There are work arounds for this. Some devs even remove this feature from their roms. You have to do your research on it though.
This is still good info though for new users.
Wow wish they would have threatened to cancel my service. I would have said thanks.
I just switched to the mobile share 8gb plan, which includes mobile hotspot, and have never gone over 6gb for the whole family ever with my old plan with 4 lines having 3gb and my unlimited costing nearly 400 a month now costs around 300. I don't think its too bad.
440bro said:
This is old news. The release of Android 4.1 enabled carriers to see the difference between using data, and redistributing or tethering data.
There are work arounds for this. Some devs even remove this feature from their roms. You have to do your research on it though.
This is still good info though for new users.
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would it be frowned upon if you posted said information?
jonrobertd said:
Wow wish they would have threatened to cancel my service. I would have said thanks.
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If they cancel your service you have to pay off the remainder of your contract agreement. For some it might not be to bad. But for someone that just renewed it could be costly!
krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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Hotspot shield from the play store really helps in this situation...
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FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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110gb this cycle (8 days left)
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Geez. You have no idea how jealous I'm of people who still have Unlimited Data.
Thank you for making AT&T pay for being douche of a carrier. :good:
Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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haha good man
I'd stick to the atrix unless you know you can spoof/vpn the traffic (or what ever preventative measures). Just frustrating cause i dont even abuse my tether... like 3 gigs a month on an unlimited plan (and using unauthorized tethering)... they should pay me for NOT abusing it... lol.
Needless to say... now there is nothing "keeping" me at ATT once my contract is up... since i dont have my unlimited plan anymore! Hopefully in next year or so the other carriers (tmobile/sprint) will be just as good at half the price... i dont mind an ocassional dropped call/spotty coverage if it means i'm paying half :good:
Edit: Also made this post so others will know... so they don't "lose" unlimited plan and get screwed if they are new to the scene
Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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Please share your secret with me!!! I hit 5gb's and AT&T throttles me so hard it takes 10 minutes to download a 4mb app from the Play Store.
Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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110 GB?! What are you doing with your phone? Streaming 4K video 24/7?
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Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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I have these phones. Looks like I'll be flashing back to gingerbread! Woo! No more battery drain from experimental jelly bean.
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krushin said:
haha good man
I'd stick to the atrix unless you know you can spoof/vpn the traffic (or what ever preventative measures). Just frustrating cause i dont even abuse my tether... like 3 gigs a month on an unlimited plan (and using unauthorized tethering)... they should pay me for NOT abusing it... lol.
Needless to say... now there is nothing "keeping" me at ATT once my contract is up... since i dont have my unlimited plan anymore! Hopefully in next year or so the other carriers (tmobile/sprint) will be just as good at half the price... i dont mind an ocassional dropped call/spotty coverage if it means i'm paying half :good:
Edit: Also made this post so others will know... so they don't "lose" unlimited plan and get screwed if they are new to the scene
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T mobile will pay your early termination fees if you want out of your contract.
http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/switch-carriers-no-early-termination-fee.html
To the Op, are you 100% certain that this is you very FIRST time being contacted by AT&T? I ask ask you because along with myself and several of my former GS2 users we received messages from AT&T telling us that they saw that we were tethering and told us to stop or be forced to a tethering plan.So I chose to stop and not lose my unlimited plan. We all were on unlimited and I'm still on unlimited on my Note 3.
DA_G what APN are you using on your atrix. May worth a try for those of us running SS ROMs and can change APN.
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440bro said:
T mobile will pay your early termination fees if you want out of your contract.
Only works if you give up your current phone and buy t mobile ones for a monthly charge.
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I must have been a lucky one! BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME!
krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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I was warned about 3 times about tethering with my phone. I too am an original unlimited data plan grandfathered in at $30 Bucks a MONTH! MUHAHAHA! The 1st time it happened it said on my bill "TETHERWARN" $0.00
Kind of scared me a bit but I continued to do it anyway and received 2 more warnings this way. I guess because it was only for a couple MB of data here and there. Some months nothing and other months just a tiny bit because I was scared at that point. Didn't want to lose my unlimited plan. :victory:
Unfortunately I found out we really don't have TRUE unlimited data anyway. After you go over 4.5GB used for the month you will receive a text message saying after 5GB you will be throttled big time!!! I was so SHOCKED by this! I can't believe I'm really only getting 5GB of data when it's supposed to be unlimited. I guess they changed everything after the family share crap started.
Figured I'd share this if anyone still has the grandfathered "Unlimited Data" plan. THEY ARE LIARS!
PS. I still tether THOUGH!! I have a windows surface tablet and use PDA NET for desktop and the FOXFI app in the play store! I can ONLY tether using bluetooth or USB though because the WiFi tether is disabled in settings now, which doesn't really bother me because it is fast enough to browse the web or even play World of Warcraft with the bluetooth tether option. It is actually decently fast with USB tether also. HERE'S THE BEST PART! PDA NET SCRUBS all PC data from the packets sent and received! There is an advanced addon feature you can download from FOXFI that does this for you. The free version shuts off at 50MB of data transferred and you just have to click the checkbox off and back on to get it to reconnect for an addition 50MB. OR, you can pay the 7 or 8 bucks for the full version and never be interrupted. I'm about to buy it because I haven't received any TETHER WARNS from att since I started using PDA NET! I think it does the scrubbing of PC data from the packets very well. I drive for a living so tethering for me is mandatory on my windows tablet. So if you are about to lose your data plan JUST BE CAREFUL and do your research! There is always a way with computers! Hoped this helps someone...Thanks for reading and sorry this is so LONGGGGGGGG!
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I still tether THOUGH!! I have a windows surface tablet and use PDA NET for desktop and the FOXFI app in the play store! PDA NET SCRUBS all PC data from the packets sent and received! There is an advanced addon feature you can download from FOXFI that does this for you. The free version shuts off at 50MB of data transferred and you just have to click the checkbox off and back on to get it to reconnect for an addition 50MB. OR, you can pay the 7 or 8 bucks for the full version and never be interrupted.
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This was what I've been looking for! Thank you.
I also have a grandfathered data plan, and get throttled after ~4.5GB of use. I've received several warnings about tethering but thankfully my family plan wasnt botched - I've just had to stop tethering... Until Now! PDA Net FTW.
Question!
If you tether from one ATT phone to another ATT phone or tablet (but not ATT), can they tell? (without having to use PDA NET)
krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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I received and email like that a couple of years ago except they told me to stop or else. Needless to say, I stopped.
That is a good question. I really don't know for certain because I no longer use my nexus 7 anymore since I got my windows surface. I do believe PDA Net has an android version which I would assume does the same thing as my desktop version. But then if you consider it's a mobile device with no PC info to scrub(I think that was your question) it might just look like it's your actual phone using that data. Really is a good question that I cannot answer with certainty. Sorry, I can't help with that one. :what::what::what::what:
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Mobile Hotspot free to Unlimited Data Plans

I just got off the phone with a Verizon representative about adding the hotspot to my unlimited plan. Now yes I'm rooted and already had access to the hotspot, but I'm fixing to go on a trip where I would probably use enough data through it to get noticed. The woman I spoke to asked if I wanted to add a line and use the jetpack or just use the hotspot and let it use my data. Well obviously with a unlimited plan I wanted the latter. I asked two times during the call if this would change my plan and or cost extra and was told no. So I guess I will find out at the end of the month.
Now it was my understanding that the data share plans had the hotspot already but I was unaware of the old unlimited plans having this and Verizon not charging the extra $30. As I said I will find out at the end of this cycle if my plan goes up $30 or not but I though I would put it out there to the others who still have there unlimited plan.
This makes me nervous. I hope you are safe and they don't try any funny business.
I no longer talk to Verizon if possible. They almost had a heart attack last time I was in there. I then realized having over 30GB per month is not normal. So over 59GB this month would be even more crazy.... If that was true... Because I am not really saying that is me..... Just saying....
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Well they don't have a plan to accommodate my usage. Last month was around 25 gig and so far this cycle I'm at 11 gig. I was ready to pay the $30 so I'll buy have to see what happens. I haven't received a email saying anything has changed so "fingers crossed".
When I upgraded from my Droid X (3G) to a Droid Razr Maxx (4G) the VZW store rep told me that because I have unlimited data, I could add hotspot too, and said it would cost more (don't remember what it was), but it would also be unlimited. I didn't do it, because I didn't need it, and if I did, I could probably root and get it.
I've never had a major need for it, but will be interested to see what happens with this. I seem to remember reading stuff about the FCC ruling that customers should be allowed by the carriers to use their data any way they wish, whether on their phone or tethered (wired or wireless) to other devices as they choose. But there was some strange wording that meant it only applied to people on non-unlimited plans, so Verizon never honored it.
I bought my Moto X outright to keep my unlimited data, and rarely use more than 2-3GB anymore. I used 10-12/mo when I didn't have internet at home for a while watching lots of stuff on Netflix and listening to Pandora a lot.
Keep us posted...
In the past I had the hotspot on my account because where I lived there was no internet but there was cell service then when I was able to get internet I canced it. I would think that it would still show that it had been on my account in the past but who knows. There is a possibility that she didn't know what she was talking about because at one time she said that there wasn't a option for a hotspot in my phone settings. I told here there was and the app was on my phone. Then she saw it. So there are some questions in my head and I will keep a close eye on it and come back with what I find.
My fingers are crossed for you. If that girl was clueless and the change forces you off unlimited there is practically no chance you will get it back unless you know the right someone on the inside. I don't see any way Verizon would allow a user with unlimited data to tether at no extra charge... especially when you consider unlimited data was explicitly disallowed from tethering when then FCC dropped the hammer on their use of band 7.
What if I have an old Verizon unlimited data plan? Can I download an app and avoid the $20 tethering fee too?
Unfortunately, the answer to this question is no. Verizon says that customers under the unlimited plan are required by the company's terms of service to pay an additional fee to tether their device.
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-http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ns-fcc-tethering-settlement-means-to-you-faq/
I tether off my unlimited here and there but don't make a habit of it... plus I rarely go over three gigs of usage so whenever I hear all these 30, 40, 50+ gig users brought up I think I have very little to worry about for the foreseeable future. I've heard any changes to the account will force you onto a tiered plan so I only talk to Verizon when absolutely necessary, and only in a store, on the off chance that just having them look at my account would constitute a change.
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My fingers are crossed for you. If that girl was clueless and the change forces you off unlimited there is practically no chance you will get it back unless you know the right someone on the inside.
I tether off my unlimited as well but I rarely go over three gigs of usage so whenever I hear all these 30, 40, 50+ gig users brought up I think I have very little to worry about for the foreseeable future. I've heard any changes to the account will force you onto a tiered plan so I only talk to Verizon when absolutely necessary, and only in a store, on the off chance that just having them look at my account would constitute a change.
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I agree that I am very wary about any potential changes to my account. When I brought my Moto X in to activate it (bought it from Moto directly, off contract), I asked to speak to the manager and made it very clear that I ONLY wanted to activate the phone if I would absolutely NOT lose unlimited data. He chuckled and told me that they get a lot of people who are super paranoid about it, and there are always shady employees who want to upsell on stuff so they will tell you that you can get XYZ new feature for only $5 more per month, but not tell you that making that change will also take you off of unlimited data. I told him that was EXACTLY what I wanted to avoid and he again chuckled and said I wouldn't lose unlimited, then proceeded to upgrade my device, and then exited out of the computer program and pulled up my account a second time to show me it was still in there as unlimited.
My girlfriend used to work at Radioshack and there were people there (including managers) that did those shady "upgrades" all the time just to get more commission. People at authorized phone stores do that stuff too. Never deal with those people.
I have checked my online account twice today and its still showing unlimited. And she said it would not change or make me lose the unlimited. I did let her know that I didn't want to lose that.
I remember when I had an unlimited data plan and got a new cell + new "subscription" that meant that it wasn't unlimited anymore, lol.
Anyway, I forgot all about it and downloaded a few movies during that weekend.
The following monday they blocked all outgoing calls from my phone and directed me to their customer service (I was furious because i didn't know why) and told me that my subscription fee was around 2600usd (one MB was like 3usd at that time when you reached your limit).
I totally **** my pants and told them the story (acted kind of dumb, pretended to be technically handicapped) and they erased the whole amount.:laugh:
I'm still faithful to that carrier
canezila said:
This makes me nervous. I hope you are safe and they don't try any funny business.
I no longer talk to Verizon if possible. They almost had a heart attack last time I was in there. I then realized having over 30GB per month is not normal. So over 59GB this month would be even more crazy.... If that was true... Because I am not really saying that is me..... Just saying....
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You can relax sir I use the least 40 gigs per month and Verizon is very well aware of this any **** to do with anything about it other than they think its quite funny
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ghostt021 said:
You can relax sir I use the least 40 gigs per month and Verizon is very well aware of this any **** to do with anything about it other than they think its quite funny
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This. I routinely use between 80GB & 200GB a month and no problems as of yet. The last time I was in a Verizon store the guy asked me what the heck I was doing, I told him I watch a lot of Netflix. (Which isn't a lie, my last phone had HDMI out and I would Stream Netflix/GPM&TV/HBOGO/HULU through my phone) What I DIDN'T tell him was that about 20-30 of those gigs were through hotspot to other devices.
Yea that doesn't sound right. Where I work there is no "unlimited hotspot" option at all. If anything you'll probably see the 5 GB hotspot option for $50
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Ok I got my bill the other day and there is no extra charge for the hotspot. So I figured that I would go ahead and update to 4.4.2 and when I tried to turn on the hotspot I got the familiar sign that I needed to contact verizon. But after rerooting and unlocking the wifi tether it worked. So obviously the rep that I talked with just didnt know what she was talking about and figured that it was on my plan or something as she didnt activate the hotspot. So scratch the free hotspot on unlimited plans.
I just updated my two computers at work and have to teather them. I also have an enormous music library because I am an elementary school music teacher and occasional DJ. This month I am at 109+ GB. I need to add my fiancée to my family plan by creating a data plan on her current number (not my unlimited plan) and just worry they might pull something. Maybe I should wait until the 13th when billing cycle resets current usage?
Also, my old phone (the one she will use) is x912 Droid RAZR Maxx. Will putting my old sim card that is used with that phone be able to get switched to her info? Just curious because I would rather hear information on this thread then at the Verizon store. Thanks!
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canezila said:
I just updated my two computers at work and have to teather them. I also have an enormous music library because I am an elementary school music teacher and occasional DJ. This month I am at 109+ GB. I need to add my fiancée to my family plan by creating a data plan on her current number (not my unlimited plan) and just worry they might pull something. Maybe I should wait until the 13th when billing cycle resets current usage?
Also, my old phone (the one she will use) is x912 Droid RAZR Maxx. Will putting my old sim card that is used with that phone be able to get switched to her info? Just curious because I would rather hear information on this thread then at the Verizon store. Thanks!
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I think you should be able to add her to your family plan for an extra 10 bucks a month plus the data plan. She will only be able to get a capped plan, but I'm sure you know this already. Even still she should be able to get 2gb for 30 bucks I think. They will probably try and get you to switch to their Share Everything plan.
As far as the Sim card is concerned, just trash it. They will give her a new one for the RAZR and assign it to her account. They're free anyways.
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How to keep unlimited data when buying phone?

I'm currently on a family line with 2 phones having a 2GB data plan and 2 other phones having unlimited data. I currently have unlimited data on my line with an upgrade and I'm planning on purchasing this phone at a subsidized price.
My plan was to transfer my upgrade to a 2 GB line. Activating it on that line and then simply swapping it over to my line and inserting the SIM card into it. Now it appears that I cannot simply insert the SIM as it takes a nano SIM card and not the micro SIM that my galaxy s4 currently uses. How would I be able to switch over the line and keep my unlimited data?
Can I just grab another nano SIM from Verizon or is that not possible? I'm getting a little worried I'll lose my unlimited data if I swap lines. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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graymonkey44 said:
I'm currently on a family line with 2 phones having a 2GB data plan and 2 other phones having unlimited data. I currently have unlimited data on my line with an upgrade and I'm planning on purchasing this phone at a subsidized price.
My plan was to transfer my upgrade to a 2 GB line. Activating it on that line and then simply swapping it over to my line and inserting the SIM card into it. Now it appears that I cannot simply insert the SIM as it takes a nano SIM card and not the micro SIM that my galaxy s4 currently uses. How would I be able to switch over the line and keep my unlimited data?
Can I just grab another nano SIM from Verizon or is that not possible? I'm getting a little worried I'll lose my unlimited data if I swap lines. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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I think we're the same person. I'm in an identical situation and I'd like to know the answer to this as well. I have upgraded other lines to keep my unlimited in the past but I haven't had to have a new sim to do it until now.
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They give Sim cards away at Verizon for no charge. Just ask.
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I think we're the same person. I'm in an identical situation and I'd like to know the answer to this as well. I have upgraded other lines to keep my unlimited in the past but I haven't had to have a new sim to do it until now.
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Just tell Verizon your buying a phone from a friend. Like perhaps a iPhone or a moot x. They all use a nano SIM
Verizon gives out some cards for free.
Here is the latest update to keeping unlimited I have seen. Transferring upgrade may no longer work. See Method 5.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/09/25/upgrade-verizon-keep-unlimited-data/
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Here is the latest update to keeping unlimited I have seen. Transferring upgrade may no longer work. See Method 5.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/09/25/upgrade-verizon-keep-unlimited-data/
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I've upgraded on a non smartphone line before since the other 2 have unlimited data, but it looks like you cannot remove the data anymore so your stuck paying the data fees for 2yrs.... Sucks
I believe they make SIM cutters. Might want to look into those.
Or just ask Verizon to send you a new SIM card.
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I've upgraded on a non smartphone line before since the other 2 have unlimited data, but it looks like you cannot remove the data anymore so your stuck paying the data fees for 2yrs.... Sucks
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I did it two years ago and I was able to remove it. Went into Verizon today to ask since I saw your comment, and they still said it's okay, but you have to wait maybe 12 or so hours to reactivate it on your line. I guess I'll ask somewhere else to confirm it tomorrow.
Please let me know. Can't wait to get this phone. Thank you
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Please let me know. Can't wait to get this phone. Thank you
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Talked to two different reps today. One store wouldn't give me any information since it's against policy I guess. The other rep at my usual store (this makes 4 people from this store saying it, one person has done it for me) confirmed it again. He said that transferring upgrades is okay but it may come back on the employee. Not really sure about that part, but it may be why they're hesitant to do it or admit it. But activating the phone and transferring it to your line is okay. Again I was told you may have 12 hours of down time to avoid suspicion or something like that. Again, not sure about that since 2 years ago they activated it on my line within 5 minutes and had me out. You can remove data lines from basic phones too by calling Verizon and having the CSR remove it from the system, which I did last time.
As far as SIM cards go, this should not be an issue. I forgot to ask the reps today, but yesterday I was told that it doesn't matter. They'll activate the phone on your non unlimited line, toss the SIM, and put in a new one for your line. I'm not sure which line gets the 12 hours of downtime here though, since I was in a bit of a hurry and forgot that too. I'm a little worried about that since I don't want my mother to go phoneless for a day since she has work and all. But as far as upgrades go, you'll be set and keeping your unlimited data with it. I'll be buying my phone next Thursday on the 30th, so if you want, I can let you know how it goes. I just hope I don't run into a rep that won't help me with this, since I guess technically they're not allowed to. If anybody has any conflicting information, please let me know. I'll try to clear it up with my store since they don't seem to have an issue with this method and are surprisingly honest about it.
After keeping my HTC Thunderbolt since its release (warranty claim recently upgraded me to a Droid DNA!), I finally have succumbed to relinquishing my unlimited data plan. I fully understand why you would want to keep it and admit that it felt like tearing my heart out when I switched to the more everything plan but I will say a few things:
1. Earlier last month I read that Verizon wanted to start throttling unlimited plans after 5gb of use. Recently I saw that they decided not to, so yay for you! I do however think that they are going to make it harder and harder to keep your plan as time passes. As it is, you are probably paying significantly more per month to keep the plan.
2. If you downgrade to a more everything plan there is a "month to month" promo that gives you the same Edge plan perk of $15/smartphone per month line access fee (as opposed to the $40 one). Again this is a promo for out of contract people and I know it is active because it was just applied to my account. (Note, you must select at least the 10gb plan and of course be out of contract)
3. By switching out of the unlimited data plan I now have unlimited minutes per month, 10GB of monthly data (family's average was 5gb-7gb anyway), and am paying ~$65 less per month on my bill now.
I'm not trying to convince anyone to switch, but $65 less a month is a lot of money saved when I wasn't even using 10gb per month.
I hope this helps someone like me who kept unlimited out of principal but didn't actually utilize it.
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Talked to two different reps today. One store wouldn't give me any information since it's against policy I guess. The other rep at my usual store (this makes 4 people from this store saying it, one person has done it for me) confirmed it again. He said that transferring upgrades is okay but it may come back on the employee. Not really sure about that part, but it may be why they're hesitant to do it or admit it. But activating the phone and transferring it to your line is okay. Again I was told you may have 12 hours of down time to avoid suspicion or something like that. Again, not sure about that since 2 years ago they activated it on my line within 5 minutes and had me out. You can remove data lines from basic phones too by calling Verizon and having the CSR remove it from the system, which I did last time.
As far as SIM cards go, this should not be an issue. I forgot to ask the reps today, but yesterday I was told that it doesn't matter. They'll activate the phone on your non unlimited line, toss the SIM, and put in a new one for your line. I'm not sure which line gets the 12 hours of downtime here though, since I was in a bit of a hurry and forgot that too. I'm a little worried about that since I don't want my mother to go phoneless for a day since she has work and all. But as far as upgrades go, you'll be set and keeping your unlimited data with it. I'll be buying my phone next Thursday on the 30th, so if you want, I can let you know how it goes. I just hope I don't run into a rep that won't help me with this, since I guess technically they're not allowed to. If anybody has any conflicting information, please let me know. I'll try to clear it up with my store since they don't seem to have an issue with this method and are surprisingly honest about it.
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I for one would love a follow-up. Thank you for the information.
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2. If you downgrade to a more everything plan there is a "month to month" promo that gives you the same Edge plan perk of $15/smartphone per month line access fee (as opposed to the $40 one). Again this is a promo for out of contract people and I know it is active because it was just applied to my account. (Note, you must select at least the 10gb plan and of course be out of contract)
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I assume this did not include getting a new phone. If you want to keep that offer when upgrading, I assume you will have to use Verizon edge, right?
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I assume this did not include getting a new phone. If you want to keep that offer when upgrading, I assume you will have to use Verizon edge, right?
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At the moment we still have all our old phones, yes. I was told that the promo would last until we decide to upgrade. At that point, if we use "Edge", the line access fee is still $15/smartphone per month plus the monthly cost of the phone (this is a permanent price feature for all edge plans 10gb and over AFIK). I asked what happens after the phone is payed off and was told that the line access fee jumps to $40/smartphone per month unless we "re-Edge" another phone or jump onto the "month to month" promotion again which may or may not be available. Note: I have been told many things about what happens after an edge plan phone is paid off. I am not 100% sure if the line access fee changes or not. I know that while paying off phones on the edge plan, plans 10gb or over have a $15/smartphone per month line access fee and all other non-edge plan devices have a $40/smartphone per month line access fee. Tablets are $10 per month on or off of edge which is cool.
Also, because I would have to pay full price for a phone on my old unlimited plan anyways, I did not incorporate the additional cost(s) of the phone(s) into my monthly savings mentioned above. I figure that with unlimited data or edge you have to pay the full price of the phone anyway so technically if we got new phones at full price and swapped them out, we would still have the promo active. Then again, not everybody (me included) can fork out $600+ per line on their account all at once. Lastly, so many great new phones are coming out every quarter that I kind of like edge because after 60% of the phone is paid off I can jump to a new one and continue payments as normal. It allows me to stay current with technology instead of holding on to a crappy thunderbolt just because it had unlimited data
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After keeping my HTC Thunderbolt since its release (warranty claim recently upgraded me to a Droid DNA!), I finally have succumbed to relinquishing my unlimited data plan. I fully understand why you would want to keep it and admit that it felt like tearing my heart out when I switched to the more everything plan but I will say a few things:
1. Earlier last month I read that Verizon wanted to start throttling unlimited plans after 5gb of use. Recently I saw that they decided not to, so yay for you! I do however think that they are going to make it harder and harder to keep your plan as time passes. As it is, you are probably paying significantly more per month to keep the plan.
2. If you downgrade to a more everything plan there is a "month to month" promo that gives you the same Edge plan perk of $15/smartphone per month line access fee (as opposed to the $40 one). Again this is a promo for out of contract people and I know it is active because it was just applied to my account. (Note, you must select at least the 10gb plan and of course be out of contract)
3. By switching out of the unlimited data plan I now have unlimited minutes per month, 10GB of monthly data (family's average was 5gb-7gb anyway), and am paying ~$65 less per month on my bill now.
I'm not trying to convince anyone to switch, but $65 less a month is a lot of money saved when I wasn't even using 10gb per month.
I hope this helps someone like me who kept unlimited out of principal but didn't actually utilize it.
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For some of us, like me, I am trying to stay on my unlimited data plan because it is cheaper (or pretty much the same price) for me than anything else Verizon currently offers. I have a plan with Unlimited Data, 450 minutes, 400 texts and I pay about $65 a month total. The only comparable plan would be the new single line plan which is Unlimited Talk/Text and 2Gb data for $60. Thing is, I don't need any more talk or text because I never use what I currently have. I do use a lot of data. If I were to switch to a More Everything plan I would be paying heaps more every month for less data than I get now.
Verizon just simply doesn't have plans anymore that cater to people like me who want limited minutes/texts and lots of data.
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For some of us, like me, I am trying to stay on my unlimited data plan because it is cheaper (or pretty much the same price) for me than anything else Verizon currently offers. I have a plan with Unlimited Data, 450 minutes, 400 texts and I pay about $65 a month total. The only comparable plan would be the new single line plan which is Unlimited Talk/Text and 2Gb data for $60. Thing is, I don't need any more talk or text because I never use what I currently have. I do use a lot of data. If I were to switch to a More Everything plan I would be paying heaps more every month for less data than I get now.
Verizon just simply doesn't have plans anymore that cater to people like me who want limited minutes/texts and lots of data.
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Yeah, I would stay on your current plan too It is harder to manage with a family plan and everyone wanting new phones though... Good luck!
Can someone confirm if this would work....
I have a 5 line family plan. 3 smartphones and 2 dumbphones. 2 of the smartphones are UDP and one is 2GB. I have an upgrade available on a dumbphone line. I would like to move that upgrade from the dumbphone line to the 2GB tier smartphone line and get a new smartphone. Once the new smartphone is activated on the 2GB line, could I then swap the sim from the new phone and give my existing phone to the 2GB line and then put my UDP sim in the new phone without changing my UDP? I was hoping this could work as the upgrade is not from my UDP line which would cause me to lose my unlimited as I have read on the net. So would this scenario allow me to preserve my UDP? Thanks for any help!
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Can someone confirm if this would work....
I have a 5 line family plan. 3 smartphones and 2 dumbphones. 2 of the smartphones are UDP and one is 2GB. I have an upgrade available on a dumbphone line. I would like to move that upgrade from the dumbphone line to the 2GB tier smartphone line and get a new smartphone. Once the new smartphone is activated on the 2GB line, could I then swap the sim from the new phone and give my existing phone to the 2GB line and then put my UDP sim in the new phone without changing my UDP? I was hoping this could work as the upgrade is not from my UDP line which would cause me to lose my unlimited as I have read on the net. So would this scenario allow me to preserve my UDP? Thanks for any help!
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Yes, i did a variation of this two years ago, it works. And according to the reps i spoke to, it still does. Although there is no need to transfer the upgrade. Activate the phone on your dumbphone line, then reactivate the dumbphone on that line. It will drop the data plan from the line and then you can activate the new phone onto your udp line. This is called an alternate upgrade. The reps i spoke to know what it is, and they probably will help you with it.
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Yes, i did a variation of this two years ago, it works. And according to the reps i spoke to, it still does. Although there is no need to transfer the upgrade. Activate the phone on your dumbphone line, then reactivate the dumbphone on that line. It will drop the data plan from the line and then you can activate the new phone onto your udp line. This is called an alternate upgrade. The reps i spoke to know what it is, and they probably will help you with it.
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Unfortunately this is no longer true. If you update one of the dumb lines and get a smart phone, the dump line will be locked in to a tiered data plan for 2 years. The carriers closed this loophole a few months ago.
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kph3 said:
Can someone confirm if this would work....
I have a 5 line family plan. 3 smartphones and 2 dumbphones. 2 of the smartphones are UDP and one is 2GB. I have an upgrade available on a dumbphone line. I would like to move that upgrade from the dumbphone line to the 2GB tier smartphone line and get a new smartphone. Once the new smartphone is activated on the 2GB line, could I then swap the sim from the new phone and give my existing phone to the 2GB line and then put my UDP sim in the new phone without changing my UDP? I was hoping this could work as the upgrade is not from my UDP line which would cause me to lose my unlimited as I have read on the net. So would this scenario allow me to preserve my UDP? Thanks for any help!
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Great idea, but I'd double and triple check the new contract when you sign them though. Since the carries are doing it to the UDPs, they may apply the same restriction to all lines. IE., since the update comes from the dumb line, they may force you to sign up for a tiered data plan for 2 years on the dumb line.
... Just make sure you read the contact closely when you update
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On Verizon unlimited data, will I be able to continue with tethering with my 6p?

Oh my, I'm lost. I've currently have a Verizon S5 and with a custom Rom and have an grandfathered unlimited data plan. I have Wifi Hotspot active toggle and it's letting me tether so I can use my tablet and sometime my laptop away from home and be internet connected. About a month ago I purchased an S6 Edge and even unrooted I was able to use Foxfi to have tether and all was great until Verizon on November 20th made Foxfi obsolete. So I sold my Verizon Edge and went back to my trusty S5. Yesterday I ordered the 6p as I know it's fairly straight forward on rooting and I assumed that by having a custom ROM I would be able to have Wifi tethering again. But I've spent quite a while on searches and I cannot find out if that will be an option for the Nexus 6P. So I know this is a noob question, but if it's not an option to open the Wifi tether then I'll just not get 6p and stay with with my S5. I was really looking forward to the 6p but...
If anyone has an answer I would be most appreciative and thanks in advance.
Yes you'll be able tether no problem. I'm on Verizon and my 6P worked right out of the box.
Thanks, best news I've had today!
I was on unlimited data with Verizon...the lone hold out on our account. But since Verizon is upping the monthly cost by $20.00 if you stay on unlimited, I finally just moved our account off to the extra large plan, which comes with 18 GB of shared data and tethering and by doing so I dropped out monthly bill by $26.00 a month. I could have upped the monthly GB's higher and our bill would have stayed about the same cost, but we just don't use that much mobile data. I say that to say this...I hung on as long as they didn't charge extra. I never even got close to exceeding 6 GB on my line except one month just recently...I tethered my sons IPad for him and let him download and install some big games and watch videos. Even then I only used about 6 GB. If you don't mind paying the extra $20.00, and you use an excessive amount of data, then unlimited is still probably a good option for you...it wasn't for me.
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I was on unlimited data with Verizon...the lone hold out on our account. But since Verizon is upping the monthly cost by $20.00 if you stay on unlimited, I finally just moved our account off to the extra large plan, which comes with 18 GB of shared data and tethering and by doing so I dropped out monthly bill by $26.00 a month. I could have upped the monthly GB's higher and our bill would have stayed about the same cost, but we just don't use that much mobile data. I say that to say this...I hung on as long as they didn't charge extra. I never even got close to exceeding 6 GB on my line except one month just recently...I tethered my sons IPad for him and let him download and install some big games and watch videos. Even then I only used about 6 GB. If you don't mind paying the extra $20.00, and you use an excessive amount of data, then unlimited is still probably a good option for you...it wasn't for me.
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I will never give up my freedom of unlimited datat
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I will never give up my freedom of unlimited datat
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I feel the same way, but eventually Big Red will price us all out! Not tomorrow but if they raised $20 this month what's preventing them from making it $120 next year? Makes me think about that, just there are no guarantees. Gezz I hope Richard Branson or some Trillionaire with vision can create another carrier and makes DATA fast and inexpensive, oh and have great coverage everywhere - "I have a dream"
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I will never give up my freedom of unlimited datat
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I don't see it as being anything to do with freedom...it is to do about economics. Why pay more for something you never use or at least in my case. By switching to the current plan I am now saving $46.00 a month (that is including after Verizon went up $20.00 on the unlimited and the $26.00 drop in my bill from changing plans). Unless you are one of these that does not have land line hard wired internet and you use your wireless internet for everything like downloading massive movies, streaming video...etc. I can't see how you benefit from unlimited. To me a $46.00 a month drop in my bill is a big difference. But, to each his own. If you don't mind paying the extra then great!
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I was on unlimited data with Verizon...the lone hold out on our account. But since Verizon is upping the monthly cost by $20.00 if you stay on unlimited, I finally just moved our account off to the extra large plan, which comes with 18 GB of shared data and tethering and by doing so I dropped out monthly bill by $26.00 a month. I could have upped the monthly GB's higher and our bill would have stayed about the same cost, but we just don't use that much mobile data. I say that to say this...I hung on as long as they didn't charge extra. I never even got close to exceeding 6 GB on my line except one month just recently...I tethered my sons IPad for him and let him download and install some big games and watch videos. Even then I only used about 6 GB. If you don't mind paying the extra $20.00, and you use an excessive amount of data, then unlimited is still probably a good option for you...it wasn't for me.
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You could of sold your unlimited plan on ebay and made some bank!
zetsumeikuro said:
You could of sold your unlimited plan on ebay and made some bank!
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yep, i dumped mine a couple weeks ago too for fi.
thought about selling it. i had unl data and unl hotspot, so i could have got way more than the 2g or whatever they are going for on ebay,
just was done with vzw and didnt want the hassle of selling it.
im saving about $70-80/mo now.
sure i cant burn through 600-800g/mo like i used to, but really i only did it because i could, and to F vzw, not because i need to. i have wifi at home.
i only miss the thought of having it, there hasnt been a situation yet where i needed it and dint have it.
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I don't see it as being anything to do with freedom...it is to do about economics. Why pay more for something you never use or at least in my case. By switching to the current plan I am now saving $46.00 a month (that is including after Verizon went up $20.00 on the unlimited and the $26.00 drop in my bill from changing plans). Unless you are one of these that does not have land line hard wired internet and you use your wireless internet for everything like downloading massive movies, streaming video...etc. I can't see how you benefit from unlimited. To me a $46.00 a month drop in my bill is a big difference. But, to each his own. If you don't mind paying the extra then great!
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I user an average of 65gb's a month between the wife and I. We both watch a lot of movies on Netflix, Hulu, and both use GG play music

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