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AT&T Pure owners: Did you have a data plan added to your account?

So I'm curioous how this new data plan requirement works. Is there anyone out there who didn't have a $30 data plan when they got the Pure, and still doesn't have a $30 data plan?
If you had a $30 data plan added when you bought the Pure, was it added automatically by the system when you stuck your SIM in, or did the sales rep add it?
If you did not have a $30 data plan before you bought it, and the rep didn't add it, can you check the Online Account Manager and see if the Pure shows up but your data plan is still not the $30 plan?

Prior to purchasing the HTC Pure I had the unlimited family data plan for $10.00. I purchased the Pure at full retail price, as I was waiting to see if At&t would come out with some new devices before the end o f the year. As of today my data plan has not changed. The retail clerk did not offer or suggest or state that I was required to change my plan at the time of purchase. So I still have the $10.00 unlimited family data plan on my account.

I used my upgrade to buy the Pure so I was required to get the $30 data plan. Before I was still using an old 2125 (aka htc tornado). The unlimited plan for that was only $15 per month.
The data plan requirement is supposedly based on the device you are using, but when you buy a phone they only check your account if you are getting the upgrade discount for the phone.
If you buy the phone without the contract then that would explain why your data plan hasn't changed.

For those of you with ATT you may be able to pay less for data like I do on T-Mo. Not sure what the equivilant Data plan to the $9.99Web2Go(formerly T-MoWeb $5.99) is but I get full web capability off of it with my unlocked phones. If I log onto My-Tmobile online and I put my phone as a WinMo phone My T-mo Web (GrandFathered in @ $5.99 ) goes away and I have to choose one of the $20+ Plans. So what I do is choos a low end phone as my device and I have the option of using my T-Mo web service. (Unlimited Data Baby)
This may work for ATT. I'm not familiar with ATTs site so I can't give direct directions for this but mebe you can do it. After doing it go to settings>all Settings> Connection and connection setup and your phone will automatically configure the settings. You probably wont even have to reconfigure the settingd. But you will have to be carful on what you DL because the low end data plans now have caps on them so you can only DL so much.

flyboy009 said:
I used my upgrade to buy the Pure so I was required to get the $30 data plan. Before I was still using an old 2125 (aka htc tornado). The unlimited plan for that was only $15 per month.
The data plan requirement is supposedly based on the device you are using, but when you buy a phone they only check your account if you are getting the upgrade discount for the phone.
If you buy the phone without the contract then that would explain why your data plan hasn't changed.
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Well I don't have the phone. I am just trying to confirm that if I buy a Touch Pro 2 no commit my data plan will or will not automatically change. I figured there must be someone out there who bought a Pure that can confirm this once and for all- one way or the other.

I'm waiting on the Pure which I ordered online on attwireless. I bought it retail, no commitment and didnt't change my current plan. I will be adding the $15 data on the line I will be using the Pure. I currently have an unbranded phone on that line and can add any feature myself on their website. Something tells me that I'll get by.

loriolus said:
I'm waiting on the Pure which I ordered online on attwireless. I bought it retail, no commitment and didnt't change my current plan. I will be adding the $15 data on the line I will be using the Pure. I currently have an unbranded phone on that line and can add any feature myself on their website. Something tells me that I'll get by.
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Nice. good to see that AT&T has a way to bypass the expensive plan like tmobile. Not many peolp know they can change plan options online.

Well we're all hoping that the "back door" way to use a $15 data plan works. But AT&T has been saying your plan will automatically get a $30 data plan added to it when you put your SIM card into any AT&T branded smartphone.
That's why I started this thread- to find out if they were bluffing or if they are serious.

SaltyDawg said:
Well we're all hoping that the "back door" way to use a $15 data plan works. But AT&T has been saying your plan will automatically get a $30 data plan added to it when you put your SIM card into any AT&T branded smartphone.
That's why I started this thread- to find out if they were bluffing or if they are serious.
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I give you an example. I gave my 3GS to my wife and she had the first generation iphone with the $20 data plus messaging and they're yet to figure out that she's using the 3GS with a cheaper plan.

SaltyDawg said:
Well we're all hoping that the "back door" way to use a $15 data plan works. But AT&T has been saying your plan will automatically get a $30 data plan added to it when you put your SIM card into any AT&T branded smartphone.
That's why I started this thread- to find out if they were bluffing or if they are serious.
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Intresting. I know T-mobile can see what phone I have (Topaz) and that it's not Branded. But if ATT automatically switches your plan with what phone you have that is total BS. Unlocked or Branded it shouldn't matter. It's non of their buisness.
loriolus said:
I give you an example. I gave my 3GS to my wife and she had the first generation iphone with the $20 data plus messaging and they're yet to figure out that she's using the 3GS with a cheaper plan.
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That's cool. They only say you need the high data plan to use all the phone features so they can make extra money. They could sell the phone without the data plan if they wanted and leave it as a side option.

AT&T finds out quickly what phone you use. I changed my sim from my unlocked Tilt to a Sony W580i, received 2 calls, made none, loged in to my AT&T account & there it appears my phone as a Sony W580i.
How do they find out& is there a way to get them from finding out?

AT&T finds out quickly what phone you use. I changed my sim from my unlocked Tilt to a Sony W580i, received 2 calls, made none, loged in to my AT&T account & there it appears my phone as a Sony W580i.
How do they find out& is there a way to get them from finding out?

Nope. They find out from the SIM card. It tells them which phone it's inserted in. Whenever I call Customer support for T-mobile they know I have an unlocked phone. They don't care. Not sure if AT&T cares. But on T-mobiles website I have the option of choosing which phone I'm "using" on my account. It doesn't automatically choose it for me unless I put my sim in a T-mo Branded phone.

I have been with AT&T for >7 years now. For the last 4 years or so, I've had a MediaNet plan that's $20 for All-you-can-eat data and 200 text messages. I've had 4 phones since then, 3 of which have been smartphones. I just checked my plan a minute ago, and it's still the same one.
There is an inertia built into the system. Unless someone goes in and specifically changes codes, they stay there forever. I'm still getting a company discount for a company I haven't worked for in over 2 years. Whatever codes you have in place will stay there. They know what phone you have because of the SIM card, but that has no effect on the codes.
The exception is the iPhone.

I have the $25 unlimited data plan that has 200 messages and unlimited "in-network" messaging (SMS and MMS).
AT&T is sending me a Pure as a warranty replacement when their 4 broken Fuzes didn't work. They never said anything about automatically upgrading my account.
We also upgraded my wife's old a$$ samsung Blackjack to the new Samsung Jack because it is supposed to get a WM6.5 upgrade soon. The guy said the upgrade was supposed to require a data plan. I just said she doesn't use data just likes the keyboard for SMSing... he quick to move on. No problem at all.
I think it's stupid that they even had 2 different data plans based off what phone you have. Total crap. They tell me that my phone is "too fast" for the cheaper data package and the internet can't keep up with it. lol.
AT&T is already expensive for their services. We pay like $140 for 2 freakin' phones; 1 with unlimited SMS and mine with Data. Outrageous. We almost pay more for the 2 addons then we do our actual voice plan.

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AT&T is already expensive for their services. We pay like $140 for 2 freakin' phones; 1 with unlimited SMS and mine with Data. Outrageous. We almost pay more for the 2 addons then we do our actual voice plan.
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Holy wow that's expensive. I pay $56 a month with taxes with unlimited data and 1500 messages. My sis and mom are on a family plan and pay 80 some odd dollars with messages. (No data for them).
Crazy how 3 phones is nearly the same as 2.

I just bought a Pure for 49.99 as an upgrade and one condition was to add the 30 dlls Data Plan. Att they don't sell you the phone if you don't add the data plan, thats what I've been told for one of their representatives. I had a Tilt for the past 2 years paying only $15 dlls for unlimited data, on my account appeared the tilt but on their system showed a Nokia 6682 phone. They didn't make the change from Nokia 6682 to the Tilt I don't know why. I bought the Tilt two years ago over the internet on Black Friday. Now it shows the Pure but with the 30 dlls data plan added. One thing is for sure if att finds out that you are using a Smartphone they will add you the 30 dlls data plan automatically and may charge for past months.

How did you get them to sell it for 49.95?

I thought I'm paying a lot for my phones but yours is worst. I have the Tilt with Unlimited data+200 message, my wife has the iPhone 1st Gen and my son has a Samsung phone with unlimited msg (no data). My monthly bill is about $140.
Since I'm already on the $30 unlimited data plan on my Tilt, is there a way to switch back to the cheaper plan?
player911 said:
I have the $25 unlimited data plan that has 200 messages and unlimited "in-network" messaging (SMS and MMS).
AT&T is sending me a Pure as a warranty replacement when their 4 broken Fuzes didn't work. They never said anything about automatically upgrading my account.
We also upgraded my wife's old a$$ samsung Blackjack to the new Samsung Jack because it is supposed to get a WM6.5 upgrade soon. The guy said the upgrade was supposed to require a data plan. I just said she doesn't use data just likes the keyboard for SMSing... he quick to move on. No problem at all.
I think it's stupid that they even had 2 different data plans based off what phone you have. Total crap. They tell me that my phone is "too fast" for the cheaper data package and the internet can't keep up with it. lol.
AT&T is already expensive for their services. We pay like $140 for 2 freakin' phones; 1 with unlimited SMS and mine with Data. Outrageous. We almost pay more for the 2 addons then we do our actual voice plan.
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badersk said:
How did you get them to sell it for 49.95?
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On tigerdirect.com they have it as an upgrade for 49.99 and the Tilt 2 for 199.99 free activation also.

Aria IMEI

I know it is a sensitive topic, but I'm so frustrated with ATT, and was wondering if I could get any directions from you guys.
I bought for my wife new Aria (full price) so she can collaborate with me without using her brain. Few days after the change I realized att changed her unlimited data plan to tiered one. That move really pissed me off, and I had to switch her back to old nokia to preserve unlimited plan. I used to have an iphone with this plan (unlimited data for $15/month), and it looks like they are enforcing new, more expensive plans not only on new customers, but also on existing ones.
Enough said... I would like to get some hints on changing imei, so I get to keep my old plan...
Thanks

Not 100% sure but just swap the sim and it should work. ATT are assholes for doing away with unlimited data made the mistake of losing my unlimited data plan when the iPhone 4 was released thanks iphone!
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I upgraded to the aria And had the unlimited data plan transfered..if u just call customer service and tell them that u have been a loyal customer for a long time now and u should be able to keep the plan u have had..u should mention being grandfathered in, be polite and tell them if they can't help u then u might be looking at other carriers. U would be amazed at the things I have gotten for free or discounted by just calling and talking to customer service..if they say they can't do it ask to be transfered to to the person who can, u might be on the phone for a minute but u can get it done I promise u
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Post this same info on ATT's Facebook.
Same thing happened to me, I went from an iPhone to the Aria, and had the unlimited data removed, put a post on ATT's facebook, and within the day, I was talking to a guy who gave it back, credited my account, and gave me an additonal discount, to make my bill cheaper.

Interesting... if that's what they did to you then I may actually get somewhere. I just pulled the plug on one line to get G2 from tmo, and may threaten to close another line if they refuse to keep my plan...
If it comes to sim swap then it won't work with att branded phones. The only thing that may work (it worked with my old line) is to use unlock phone and ask them to update imei. They will mark your line as unlocked phone and never update your plan again. It worked for iphone...
Thx for your input.
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How much data do you actually use on your plan? I use my phone's data very regularly throughout the month and the most I've ever managed to use in a month was a gigabyte, making the $25 plan a cheaper solution than the $30 PDA Smartphone plan that preceded it.
I work in a retail position in which I handle AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile customers on a daily basis, and I have yet to meet anyone who uses more than 2GB a month, and some of these people use the phone as if they do not have a home internet service!
Thankfully AT&T has a very easy way of checking to see the monthly data usage you use, and even gives you a nice graph of the last six months of data usage, so you can decide for yourself what data plan is right for you.
"Unlimited" 3G data (w/ 5gb limit) for $30 on a smartphone is going the way of direct connect. Verizon will not be far behind with unveiling their new data plans and T-Mobile is talking about doing the same thing. I think once it is all said and done, we won't even see unlimited plans on 4G networks, especially once Sprint gets enough people back onto their service.

Just do the switch yourself. If you bought the phone full price you could have gotten it anywhere besides AT&T, swapped the SIM and been on the same plan. that's what i did coming from my Fuze. I just moved the SIM card to the new phone, and it worked flawlessly. kept my unlimited plan and everything.
as for data usage. When i had my Fuze i used maybe .5gig a month, but as soon as i got the Aria my usage spiked. I use consistently well over 2 gigs a month, breaking 4 gigs in August. I don't use it for tethering, i don't download huge video files, in fact i'm pretty tame with my phone usage. I'll be keeping my unlimited plan when i get a free upgrade in January.

shark0807 said:
How much data do you actually use on your plan? I use my phone's data very regularly throughout the month and the most I've ever managed to use in a month was a gigabyte, making the $25 plan a cheaper solution than the $30 PDA Smartphone plan that preceded it.
I work in a retail position in which I handle AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile customers on a daily basis, and I have yet to meet anyone who uses more than 2GB a month, and some of these people use the phone as if they do not have a home internet service!
Thankfully AT&T has a very easy way of checking to see the monthly data usage you use, and even gives you a nice graph of the last six months of data usage, so you can decide for yourself what data plan is right for you.
"Unlimited" 3G data (w/ 5gb limit) for $30 on a smartphone is going the way of direct connect. Verizon will not be far behind with unveiling their new data plans and T-Mobile is talking about doing the same thing. I think once it is all said and done, we won't even see unlimited plans on 4G networks, especially once Sprint gets enough people back onto their service.
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You sound like att spokesperson addressing all dumbasses that purchased smartphone thinking it will make them look smarter. Your data usage statistics are off, and just because you ask your customers about their data usage, it doesn't mean it makes you right. I have observed the data usage by mobile devices in the enterprise I manage in the past 3 years. It seems people spend more time using internet driven apps when their experience improves. That pretty much means the faster mobile network becomes the more bandwidth is consumed. Another huge impact on data usage comes from pushed advertisement. People love free apps, but in order to support brightminded developers those apps have to display small banners. lets do quick math here... each banner is about 5KB. Popular apps rotate them in intervals of 10s, or display new ad whenever you go to new page. If your phone supports multitasking, for example new iphone, then if you don't close the app (for example weather app) it may actually keep rotating those ads in the background eating up your bandwidth. That's 5KB every 10s throughout billing cycle gives us total of about 1.3GB each month. That's based on single app that probably won't be running 24/7, but you may have few of such apps running at the same time, so this will definitely bring you close to that number.
Now, lets talk about 4G, and your assumption of all carriers going with tiered plans. I've been enjoying my G2 over HSPA+ so much. You tube videos are actually in visible quality now. Those very same videos over att 3g were just a joke, and waste of time. What do you think how much bandwidth those HQ videos consume? How about video calls? How about flash driven apps? Limiting users to tiered plans would mean blocking all those services, and worse it would bring technology development for mobile devices to a halt (at least in US).
Mobile carriers are facing very hard times. There is more bandwidth demand than they estimated. ATT for example chose greed, and decided to oversubscribe their infrastructure hoping iphone will save them. Verizon however, invested in their network to ensure they can handle the growth. They all should be thankful to Apple for stealing the name "smartphone", and introducing it to masses in the form of a dumbphone. That move changed the industry, and right now we're all paying for it through higher cost, development by spending more time rooting devices than coding new apps, and reliability. I love my mac, but I hate Jobs for the iphone so much...

cegna09 said:
Just do the switch yourself. If you bought the phone full price you could have gotten it anywhere besides AT&T, swapped the SIM and been on the same plan. that's what i did coming from my Fuze. I just moved the SIM card to the new phone, and it worked flawlessly. kept my unlimited plan and everything.
as for data usage. When i had my Fuze i used maybe .5gig a month, but as soon as i got the Aria my usage spiked. I use consistently well over 2 gigs a month, breaking 4 gigs in August. I don't use it for tethering, i don't download huge video files, in fact i'm pretty tame with my phone usage. I'll be keeping my unlimited plan when i get a free upgrade in January.
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Aria is the only woman friendly (small) android phone that supports att 3G. I paid for it $300 (new). Legacy, which seems to be pretty much same phone is $200 more, and doesn't support att 3g frequencies. It looks like att is getting better in cat/mouse game. I may just have to threaten to leave, to get something done...
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any android phone is concidered by att as smartphone, and they require smartphone plan with it. My wife previously had unlocked nokia, so they did not know what kind of phone it was, and allowed regular $15/month unlimited data plan. Once you put your sim into device that they have in their database they enforce on you smartphone plan that's currently available. If her previous plan was unlimited data for smartphone ($25/month), then I agree, she would be able to keep it.

chopperpl said:
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any android phone is concidered by att as smartphone, and they require smartphone plan with it. My wife previously had unlocked nokia, so they did not know what kind of phone it was, and allowed regular $15/month unlimited data plan. Once you put your sim into device that they have in their database they enforce on you smartphone plan that's currently available. If her previous plan was unlimited data for smartphone ($25/month), then I agree, she would be able to keep it.
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didn't realize you came from a non-smartphone. I came from a Fuze (touch pro), so i was already on the $30 unlimited smartphone plan. I made the phone switch right after they announced the end of unlimited plans, and just swapped the phone on my own. Their system caught it, changed my profile on AT&T's site, but did nothing to the plan. I still have the unlimited plan, and will be keeping it as i foresee my usage staying hight.

Do what i did.
Change the sim into a dumb phone and turn it on, wait about an hour, then log into your account online. The options for the medianet packages will reappear. Remove the smartphone data plans then enable the medianet plan for unlimited data. After switch the sim back to the smart phone, if you get a text or email saying they detected your smartphone just call them up and tell them you do not have a smartphone and give them the IMEI number of the dumb phone and have them remove the data and restore the medianet.
I know its a bit much to lie to them but it is robery that pay as you go data is $2 per 1MB, $15 for 200MB and $25 for 2GB when the service sucks inside any building in lower Manhattan.

joshua54 said:
I upgraded to the aria And had the unlimited data plan transfered..if u just call customer service and tell them that u have been a loyal customer for a long time now and u should be able to keep the plan u have had..u should mention being grandfathered in, be polite and tell them if they can't help u then u might be looking at other carriers. U would be amazed at the things I have gotten for free or discounted by just calling and talking to customer service..if they say they can't do it ask to be transfered to to the person who can, u might be on the phone for a minute but u can get it done I promise u
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this is what i did.

I called cancellation dept, and they still refused to roll my old plan back
Going back to my initial request... Any hints on changing imei?
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Is it doable at all?
I don't want to waste anymore time on it. Can some of the bright ones just tell me, if imei on this phone is "burned-in" or is it changeable via software?
Thanks

So... I've done more research, and seems people are saying it is illegal to change imei... Illegal???? I think, if changing/spoofing for criminal activities then it is illegal. Carriers clearly abuse that id to rip more money from people. Where is the government to protect us? I wouldn’t mind, if there was an alternative, but there is none. How come I pay full price for the smartphone, and can’t deny data plan? I want to roam through local hot spots offered for free by my cable provider to sync phone instead of X fuc…ing G!!!! I think it is time for people to start filing complaints with FCC...

chopperpl said:
I don't want to waste anymore time on it. Can some of the bright ones just tell me, if imei on this phone is "burned-in" or is it changeable via software?
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First off AT&T can see immediately when you switch, and to what phone you are using, as well as the kind of traffic, to categorize your phone... so spoofing an IMEI won't get you anywhere - the bandwidth usage from a regular phone vs a smartphone is miles apart.
Second and more importantly Unlimited data for smartphones ($30) vs unlimited data for a regular phone ($15) are two completely different plans. Your old nokia was clearly not a smartphone if you were paying $15 for unlimited data.
I had a blackberry 9700 and went to an Aria, smartphone to smartphone. They let me keep my same smartphone unlimited data plan.
Bottom line you can't switch from a regular phone unlimited data to a smartphone unlimited data plan and keep the same plan.
You're SOL.
Your best bet is to talk to a manager in a retail store - as they are the only people who can work miracles. AT&T grants them special privileges, like allowing you to "early upgrade" (essentially re-start your contract) for a fee + regular advertised phone prices (way cheaper then a new phone at full retail price), and then allowing you to spend that "fee" as a credit on retail store accessories.

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First off AT&T can see immediately when you switch, and to what phone you are using, as well as the kind of traffic, to categorize your phone... so spoofing an IMEI won't get you anywhere - the bandwidth usage from a regular phone vs a smartphone is miles apart.
Second and more importantly Unlimited data for smartphones ($30) vs unlimited data for a regular phone ($15) are two completely different plans. Your old nokia was clearly not a smartphone if you were paying $15 for unlimited data.
I had a blackberry 9700 and went to an Aria, smartphone to smartphone. They let me keep my same smartphone unlimited data plan.
Bottom line you can't switch from a regular phone unlimited data to a smartphone unlimited data plan and keep the same plan.
You're SOL.
Your best bet is to talk to a manager in a retail store - as they are the only people who can work miracles. AT&T grants them special privileges, like allowing you to "early upgrade" (essentially re-start your contract) for a fee + regular advertised phone prices (way cheaper then a new phone at full retail price), and then allowing you to spend that "fee" as a credit on retail store accessories.
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I'm afraid you're wrong, and this is why. I've had iphone 3gs on unlimited data plan ($15/month) for over a year. Before that I had Nokia N95 (which is still much smarter than iphone 4) on the same plan also for about a year.
You're saying they monitor bandwidth usage... How come they never picked up on my international SIP calls, and radio streaming? and yes, spoofing will get me somewhere. ATT holds only imeis from att branded/approved phones. If my imei is not found they assume it is simple multimedia phone. How do I know that? I talked to cancellation dept manager two days ago, and was ensured I will get my plan back once my imei doesn't match any of those from att smartphone lineup.

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Bottom line you can't switch from a regular phone unlimited data to a smartphone unlimited data plan and keep the same plan.
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So what you are telling me is that basically, you want people on here to help you do something which is admittedly illegal in many counties, so your new smart phone appears as a multimedia phone and you can pay less and keep your unlimited data plan.
*scratches head*
edit: you would have been better off just getting an Aria for free with a 2yr contract and then paying for a 2G plan.

dexmix said:
So what you are telling me is that basically, you want people on here to help you do something which is admittedly illegal in many counties, so your new smart phone appears as a multimedia phone and you can pay less and keep your unlimited data plan.
*scratches head*
edit: you would have been better off just getting an Aria for free with a 2yr contract and then paying for a 2G plan.
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Well, not exactly. I've had that plan since gen 1 iphone, which was running on Edge, and three months later I switched to n95 3g. Basically I'm trying to retain my old data plan, and that's because I have not received any special treatment, or services in order to pay more... If they rolled out LTE, and use that for justification then I would agree.

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edit: you would have been better off just getting an Aria for free with a 2yr contract and then paying for a 2G plan.
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Better off????? 2 year contract means locked in with old technology. Those contracts don't do any good to people. By signing, you let att screw you any way they want. You can't walk away, or negotiate. If I wasn't tied up with the contract when att announced new plans, then I would switch to verizon long time ago... If you are real smartphone user then you better off buying unlocked phone, and use it the way it was designed to use without extra fees (tethering $60 ), but if you are one of those guys thinking "smartphone will make me look smarter", then your best bet is to buy discounted phone with the contract.

Mobile Hotspot free to Unlimited Data Plans

I just got off the phone with a Verizon representative about adding the hotspot to my unlimited plan. Now yes I'm rooted and already had access to the hotspot, but I'm fixing to go on a trip where I would probably use enough data through it to get noticed. The woman I spoke to asked if I wanted to add a line and use the jetpack or just use the hotspot and let it use my data. Well obviously with a unlimited plan I wanted the latter. I asked two times during the call if this would change my plan and or cost extra and was told no. So I guess I will find out at the end of the month.
Now it was my understanding that the data share plans had the hotspot already but I was unaware of the old unlimited plans having this and Verizon not charging the extra $30. As I said I will find out at the end of this cycle if my plan goes up $30 or not but I though I would put it out there to the others who still have there unlimited plan.

This makes me nervous. I hope you are safe and they don't try any funny business.
I no longer talk to Verizon if possible. They almost had a heart attack last time I was in there. I then realized having over 30GB per month is not normal. So over 59GB this month would be even more crazy.... If that was true... Because I am not really saying that is me..... Just saying....
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Well they don't have a plan to accommodate my usage. Last month was around 25 gig and so far this cycle I'm at 11 gig. I was ready to pay the $30 so I'll buy have to see what happens. I haven't received a email saying anything has changed so "fingers crossed".

When I upgraded from my Droid X (3G) to a Droid Razr Maxx (4G) the VZW store rep told me that because I have unlimited data, I could add hotspot too, and said it would cost more (don't remember what it was), but it would also be unlimited. I didn't do it, because I didn't need it, and if I did, I could probably root and get it.
I've never had a major need for it, but will be interested to see what happens with this. I seem to remember reading stuff about the FCC ruling that customers should be allowed by the carriers to use their data any way they wish, whether on their phone or tethered (wired or wireless) to other devices as they choose. But there was some strange wording that meant it only applied to people on non-unlimited plans, so Verizon never honored it.
I bought my Moto X outright to keep my unlimited data, and rarely use more than 2-3GB anymore. I used 10-12/mo when I didn't have internet at home for a while watching lots of stuff on Netflix and listening to Pandora a lot.
Keep us posted...

In the past I had the hotspot on my account because where I lived there was no internet but there was cell service then when I was able to get internet I canced it. I would think that it would still show that it had been on my account in the past but who knows. There is a possibility that she didn't know what she was talking about because at one time she said that there wasn't a option for a hotspot in my phone settings. I told here there was and the app was on my phone. Then she saw it. So there are some questions in my head and I will keep a close eye on it and come back with what I find.

My fingers are crossed for you. If that girl was clueless and the change forces you off unlimited there is practically no chance you will get it back unless you know the right someone on the inside. I don't see any way Verizon would allow a user with unlimited data to tether at no extra charge... especially when you consider unlimited data was explicitly disallowed from tethering when then FCC dropped the hammer on their use of band 7.
What if I have an old Verizon unlimited data plan? Can I download an app and avoid the $20 tethering fee too?
Unfortunately, the answer to this question is no. Verizon says that customers under the unlimited plan are required by the company's terms of service to pay an additional fee to tether their device.
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I tether off my unlimited here and there but don't make a habit of it... plus I rarely go over three gigs of usage so whenever I hear all these 30, 40, 50+ gig users brought up I think I have very little to worry about for the foreseeable future. I've heard any changes to the account will force you onto a tiered plan so I only talk to Verizon when absolutely necessary, and only in a store, on the off chance that just having them look at my account would constitute a change.

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My fingers are crossed for you. If that girl was clueless and the change forces you off unlimited there is practically no chance you will get it back unless you know the right someone on the inside.
I tether off my unlimited as well but I rarely go over three gigs of usage so whenever I hear all these 30, 40, 50+ gig users brought up I think I have very little to worry about for the foreseeable future. I've heard any changes to the account will force you onto a tiered plan so I only talk to Verizon when absolutely necessary, and only in a store, on the off chance that just having them look at my account would constitute a change.
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I agree that I am very wary about any potential changes to my account. When I brought my Moto X in to activate it (bought it from Moto directly, off contract), I asked to speak to the manager and made it very clear that I ONLY wanted to activate the phone if I would absolutely NOT lose unlimited data. He chuckled and told me that they get a lot of people who are super paranoid about it, and there are always shady employees who want to upsell on stuff so they will tell you that you can get XYZ new feature for only $5 more per month, but not tell you that making that change will also take you off of unlimited data. I told him that was EXACTLY what I wanted to avoid and he again chuckled and said I wouldn't lose unlimited, then proceeded to upgrade my device, and then exited out of the computer program and pulled up my account a second time to show me it was still in there as unlimited.
My girlfriend used to work at Radioshack and there were people there (including managers) that did those shady "upgrades" all the time just to get more commission. People at authorized phone stores do that stuff too. Never deal with those people.

I have checked my online account twice today and its still showing unlimited. And she said it would not change or make me lose the unlimited. I did let her know that I didn't want to lose that.

I remember when I had an unlimited data plan and got a new cell + new "subscription" that meant that it wasn't unlimited anymore, lol.
Anyway, I forgot all about it and downloaded a few movies during that weekend.
The following monday they blocked all outgoing calls from my phone and directed me to their customer service (I was furious because i didn't know why) and told me that my subscription fee was around 2600usd (one MB was like 3usd at that time when you reached your limit).
I totally **** my pants and told them the story (acted kind of dumb, pretended to be technically handicapped) and they erased the whole amount.:laugh:
I'm still faithful to that carrier

canezila said:
This makes me nervous. I hope you are safe and they don't try any funny business.
I no longer talk to Verizon if possible. They almost had a heart attack last time I was in there. I then realized having over 30GB per month is not normal. So over 59GB this month would be even more crazy.... If that was true... Because I am not really saying that is me..... Just saying....
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You can relax sir I use the least 40 gigs per month and Verizon is very well aware of this any **** to do with anything about it other than they think its quite funny
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ghostt021 said:
You can relax sir I use the least 40 gigs per month and Verizon is very well aware of this any **** to do with anything about it other than they think its quite funny
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This. I routinely use between 80GB & 200GB a month and no problems as of yet. The last time I was in a Verizon store the guy asked me what the heck I was doing, I told him I watch a lot of Netflix. (Which isn't a lie, my last phone had HDMI out and I would Stream Netflix/GPM&TV/HBOGO/HULU through my phone) What I DIDN'T tell him was that about 20-30 of those gigs were through hotspot to other devices.

Yea that doesn't sound right. Where I work there is no "unlimited hotspot" option at all. If anything you'll probably see the 5 GB hotspot option for $50
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Ok I got my bill the other day and there is no extra charge for the hotspot. So I figured that I would go ahead and update to 4.4.2 and when I tried to turn on the hotspot I got the familiar sign that I needed to contact verizon. But after rerooting and unlocking the wifi tether it worked. So obviously the rep that I talked with just didnt know what she was talking about and figured that it was on my plan or something as she didnt activate the hotspot. So scratch the free hotspot on unlimited plans.

I just updated my two computers at work and have to teather them. I also have an enormous music library because I am an elementary school music teacher and occasional DJ. This month I am at 109+ GB. I need to add my fiancée to my family plan by creating a data plan on her current number (not my unlimited plan) and just worry they might pull something. Maybe I should wait until the 13th when billing cycle resets current usage?
Also, my old phone (the one she will use) is x912 Droid RAZR Maxx. Will putting my old sim card that is used with that phone be able to get switched to her info? Just curious because I would rather hear information on this thread then at the Verizon store. Thanks!
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canezila said:
I just updated my two computers at work and have to teather them. I also have an enormous music library because I am an elementary school music teacher and occasional DJ. This month I am at 109+ GB. I need to add my fiancée to my family plan by creating a data plan on her current number (not my unlimited plan) and just worry they might pull something. Maybe I should wait until the 13th when billing cycle resets current usage?
Also, my old phone (the one she will use) is x912 Droid RAZR Maxx. Will putting my old sim card that is used with that phone be able to get switched to her info? Just curious because I would rather hear information on this thread then at the Verizon store. Thanks!
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I think you should be able to add her to your family plan for an extra 10 bucks a month plus the data plan. She will only be able to get a capped plan, but I'm sure you know this already. Even still she should be able to get 2gb for 30 bucks I think. They will probably try and get you to switch to their Share Everything plan.
As far as the Sim card is concerned, just trash it. They will give her a new one for the RAZR and assign it to her account. They're free anyways.
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Upgrading with 2 year contract and keeping unlimited data

I did this with the original Turbo, but I have an upgrade available on my unlimited data line and my sister has 2GB of data on our family plan. I plan on transferring my upgrade to her line, upgrading the phone and activating it. Then just slip my nano sim and... profit. Anyone successfully upgrade their phone and keep their unlimited data? Does the best buy method still work as well?
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I just upgraded last night I have three phones on my line. My wife had an upgrade I used. the phone was put on her phone number I then about 20 minutes later swapped my sim card for her SIM card and I kept unlimited data.
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Thanks for the reply. I just placed my order today. I went with the 64GB blue ballistic nylon with blue accents. I can't wait. Everything went well with ordering since I ordered online and transferred my upgrade to my sister's.
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I have no idea how this works, can you please elaborate? I know it's a common method but I really want to upgrade my phone. I'm currently on an UDP and I have two tiered data lines. You just have to transfer the upgrade to theirs, and when the phone comes in, put in your SIM card instead of activating the card it comes with? That's all you have to do?

Xelios029 said:
I have no idea how this works, can you please elaborate? I know it's a common method but I really want to upgrade my phone. I'm currently on an UDP and I have two tiered data lines. You just have to transfer the upgrade to theirs, and when the phone comes in, put in your SIM card instead of activating the card it comes with? That's all you have to do?
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There are two methods I have 2 lines 1 udp and 2 tired 2 gig plans wife/daughter.
1. My wife's line had an upgrade went to version upgraded walked out to the car swapped Sims now its mine.
2. Transfer your upgrade to another one of your lines on the computer before hand. Go to verizon upgrade walk outside swap Sims.
Number 2 some people say you should not swap Sims immediately. Make some calls and in a few hours swap. I don't know why it would make a difference but it is what I have heard. I have done both methods and did not lose udp. However number 2 I gave my udp update to my daughter 2 months ago for a turbo. However it was for her so I never swapped my sim to the phone.
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bigv5150 said:
There are two methods I have 2 lines 1 udp and 2 tired 2 gig plans wife/daughter.
1. My wife's line had an upgrade went to version upgraded walked out to the car swapped Sims now its mine.
2. Transfer your upgrade to another one of your lines on the computer before hand. Go to verizon upgrade walk outside swap Sims.
Number 2 some people say you should not swap Sims immediately. Make some calls and in a few hours swap. I don't know why it would make a difference but it is what I have heard. I have done both methods and did not lose udp. However number 2 I gave my udp update to my daughter 2 months ago for a turbo. However it was for her so I never swapped my sim to the phone.
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Thank you. I'll definitely be saving this for future reference. Also apparently with the new increase in UDP prices, you can use your upgrade and keep the UDP too. I'm still looking into that but this will be a great back up plan in case.

graymonkey44 said:
I did this with the original Turbo, but I have an upgrade available on my unlimited data line and my sister has 2GB of data on our family plan. I plan on transferring my upgrade to her line, upgrading the phone and activating it. Then just slip my nano sim and... profit. Anyone successfully upgrade their phone and keep their unlimited data? Does the best buy method still work as well?
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I only have a single line. BestBuy method still works!, just did it at the start of this week.

Xelios029 said:
Thank you. I'll definitely be saving this for future reference. Also apparently with the new increase in UDP prices, you can use your upgrade and keep the UDP too. I'm still looking into that but this will be a great back up plan in case.
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I thought that as well but it would seem not. What the increase for udp will allow is you to purchase a phone on a payment plan like everyone else. If you try to update using upgrade buh buy unlimited.
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Transferring an upgrade from a line which has an unlimited plan, to another line will result in a change to the unlimited plan line as well. Since that contract changed, the data plan changes as well. That was my last conversation with VZW today, Nov 11, 2015 @ 2:49 CST. Also, with the increase on the Unlimited data plan, if you opt to go on a device payment plan, the Unlimited data plan will be discounted back down to $30/month. So device payment plan = $30 data plan + monthly phone price increase(Maxx 2 would be $16/monthly) and you would still save the $20 per month, net savings $4 monthly. This will begin on Nov 15th. They will slowly phase out 2 year Contracts is the end game there.

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Transferring an upgrade from a line which has an unlimited plan, to another line will result in a change to the unlimited plan line as well. Since that contract changed, the data plan changes as well. That was my last conversation with VZW today, Nov 11, 2015 @ 2:49 CST. Also, with the increase on the Unlimited data plan, if you opt to go on a device payment plan, the Unlimited data plan will be discounted back down to $30/month. So device payment plan = $30 data plan + monthly phone price increase(Maxx 2 would be $16/monthly) and you would still save the $20 per month, net savings $4 monthly. This will begin on Nov 15th. They will slowly phase out 2 year Contracts is the end game there.
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Your first mistake was asking a verizon rep they lie like a rug. I transfered my udp upgrade to my daughter's line she upgraded my contract extended and I don't have to pay the 20 dollar udp increase for 2 years. I just did this in June.
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Even from the VZW website, when I go to transfer my upgrade, it makes me change the Unlimited data plan on my line to the 2GB plan. Did you do the upgrade at a best buy like menational above? Or yourself online at the VZW website? The Increase in price will start on Sunday, Nov 15th.

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Even from the VZW website, when I go to transfer my upgrade, it makes me change the Unlimited data plan on my line to the 2GB plan. Did you do the upgrade at a best buy like menational above? Or yourself online at the VZW website? The Increase in price will start on Sunday, Nov 15th.
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Nope I just transferred the upgrade to my other line. Went to verizon upgraded and my lines contract got extended two years. I guess in the 3-4 months they could have changed it. You could try to switch the upgrade then go to verizon and upgrade. I am assuming you tried it on the computer that may be the issue.
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Your first mistake was asking a verizon rep they lie like a rug. I transfered my udp upgrade to my daughter's line she upgraded my contract extended and I don't have to pay the 20 dollar udp increase for 2 years. I just did this in June.
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This, Verizon reps from 3 different stores fed me that line as well. I just upgraded online so I didn't have to deal with them.

I will go to Verizon Tomorrow, but even transferring the upgrade from another line at Best Buy said it would get rid of my unlimited Data plan, So at the VZW Store the same thing would happen as well.

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Even from the VZW website, when I go to transfer my upgrade, it makes me change the Unlimited data plan on my line to the 2GB plan. Did you do the upgrade at a best buy like menational above? Or yourself online at the VZW website? The Increase in price will start on Sunday, Nov 15th.
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there is a way to do it through the Verizon website, there is a trick during the checkout to keep your existing plan and keep unlimited, I did it on my single line (nationwide 450 talk and text), upgraded my phone to a droid turbo 2 and my contract got renewed to 10/31/2017. You still will need to swap your existing SIM to the new phone though. some people on another forum said it was risky but it worked for me. if you want more info you can pm me.

Jimmy8881 said:
there is a way to do it through the Verizon website, there is a trick during the checkout to keep your existing plan and keep unlimited, I did it on my single line (nationwide 450 talk and text), upgraded my phone to a droid turbo 2 and my contract got renewed to 10/31/2017. You still will need to swap your existing SIM to the new phone though. some people on another forum said it was risky but it worked for me. if you want more info you can pm me.
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But maybe after 30 days, it might drop. Just keep an eye on it. The paper work that came with your device, does it state that your data plan is no longer Unlimited? And is now 6GB for $30? I can do the transfer upgrade on the VZW website, and it seems like it won't change the unlimited data plan. I was really hoping for the best buy deal of a galaxy S6 for $1 for a renewal. Worst case scenario, I do a device payment plan, on my lines, and the over all be only goes up $10-$20 instead of $40( for two unlimited plans). Sams club on the 14th will have the Galaxy S6 and note 5 for $0.96 with a 2 year Contracts . So we shall see what happens by Saturday.
Worst case scenario, I do a Device payment plan to keep the data an at $30, I will have to pay at least $20 more per UDP, so I might as well get phones out of it, rather than paying for air.
Thanks for the support.

bamabamboogy02 said:
But maybe after 30 days, it might drop. Just keep an eye on it. The paper work that came with your device, does it state that your data plan is no longer Unlimited? And is now 6GB for $30? I can do the transfer upgrade on the VZW website, and it seems like it won't change the unlimited data plan. I was really hoping for the best buy deal of a galaxy S6 for $1 for a renewal. Worst case scenario, I do a device payment plan, on my lines, and the over all be only goes up $10-$20 instead of $40( for two unlimited plans). Sams club on the 14th will have the Galaxy S6 and note 5 for $0.96 with a 2 year Contracts . So we shall see what happens by Saturday.
Worst case scenario, I do a Device payment plan to keep the data an at $30, I will have to pay at least $20 more per UDP, so I might as well get phones out of it, rather than paying for air.
Thanks for the support.
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I already received the contract paperwork through mail, I'm locked on nationwide 450 talk and text with unlimited data with no price increase until 10/31/2017. According to the paperwork I will get the $20 increase after 10/31/17 unless I can figure out a way to extend the contract again before then.

Jimmy8881 said:
I already received the contract paperwork through mail, I'm locked on nationwide 450 talk and text with unlimited data with no price increase until 10/31/2017. According to the paperwork I will get the $20 increase after 10/31/17 unless I can figure out a way to extend the contract again before then.
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I don't think that's possible once the contract is up you will have to pay. I can't think of anyway to extend a contract before it is up. If anyone has an idea let us know.
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I don't think that's possible once the contract is up you will have to pay. I can't think of anyway to extend a contract before it is up. If anyone has an idea let us know.
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So you were able to upgrade and keep data on your single line plan? If so can you tell me how you did it? I usually transfer my upgrade to my dad who is on a tiered data plan and it works.
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lucasbohanan said:
So you were able to upgrade and keep data on your single line plan? If so can you tell me how you did it? I usually transfer my upgrade to my dad who is on a tiered data plan and it works.
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No I have 3 lines mine udp wife's 2gig daughter 2gig. I transfered my udp upgrade in June to my daughter and she got the turbo and my contract was extended.
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Unlimited Data Under Contract

Anybody get the S7 on a 2 year contract that had unlimited data and was still able to keep it with loophole? If so, how were you able to do it?
And I am not talking about Verizon $20 increase and making payments on phone.

When I go to the corporate verizon store they are able to upgrade me with the payment plan. When I do I overly stress that I can not lose unlimited. The last time they said this can only be done at a corporate store. Not sure about 2yr contact.
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reggie cheeks said:
When I go to the corporate verizon store they are able to upgrade me with the payment plan. When I do I overly stress that I can not lose unlimited. The last time they said this can only be done at a corporate store. Not sure about 2yr contact.
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Correct. Under 2yr deal you will lose unlimited. But was hoping to upgrade under the previous loophole.
I can make payments but have to wait until my contract is up in May and then have to wait another month so they can charge me the extra $20 then I can make monthly payments.

I still have UDP. We have 4 lines, I used an upgrade from a different line to get the S7. That lines upgrade has been used up and the contract on that line has been extended by 2 years whereas my UDP is unaffected
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sumepls said:
I still have UDP. We have 4 lines, I used an upgrade from a different line to get the S7. That lines upgrade has been used up and the contract on that line has been extended by 2 years whereas my UDP is unaffected
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Yes, there is that option, but I was able to use both lines upgrades under 2 year deal and still keep unlimited data without having to use another lines upgrade. I have a theory that I will try and report back later if it works. They may have already plugged the last loophole to keep unlimited and stay under contract.

anrichardson said:
Yes, there is that option, but I was able to use both lines upgrades under 2 year deal and still keep unlimited data without having to use another lines upgrade. I have a theory that I will try and report back later if it works. They may have already plugged the last loophole to keep unlimited and stay under contract.
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http://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ver...a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-nationwide-basic-line
You could use the UDP upgrade to get the phone at the subsidized price, NEVER activate it, sell it, and buy whatever you want with it afterwards.

Could this new carrier sim lock have anything to do with people losing UDP through loophole now?
I tried to do the slickdeals way cause I was able to do it my last 2 phones (LG G2 & Note 4). The only thing I can think of is that my S7 shipped from store. So I think they activated before I got it.
Anybody got any possible solutions that I could try?
I am thinking about upgrading my wife's line then activate it on my line then switch it back to her line?

Just did this today on VZW successfully Grandfathered unlimited data still. The rep told me that the old strategy of activating on another line and then swapping would no longer work but he essentially did that and moved my old SIM from my Nexus 6 over and it worked perfectly.

djh816 said:
Just did this today on VZW successfully Grandfathered unlimited data still. The rep told me that the old strategy of activating on another line and then swapping would no longer work but he essentially did that and moved my old SIM from my Nexus 6 over and it worked perfectly.
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Are you paying the extra $20 on either line?
And your signed up for another 2 years?

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Are you paying the extra $20 on either line?
And your signed up for another 2 years?
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If you are refering to the extra $20 Verizon charges grandfathered data users now, yes (afaik this is done automatically by their billing department, not much you can do to avoid it except change the plan which loses unlimited data). Otherwise, not sure what you mean. I currently pay $50 per month for the unlimited data. The phone's contract is on the other family plan line but yes extended for another two years and subsidized S7 price of $200
Edit: To be clear, when you upgrade to a subsidized phone using another line, the contract gets extended (and updated) on that other line, not the unlimited data line. That's how the loophole works. The rep told me that now they are actually looking at MEID when you swap the phone onto the unlimited data lines in their system and if they see it's a newly activated Verizon phone (phones bought elsewhere or off contract are safe) they force you to lose unlimited data. Somehow my rep got around this by just inserting my existing SIM card in the phone during activation rather than using VZW's computer system. Then he reverted the other line to the old phone so my unlimited data line was untouched.

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If you are refering to the extra $20 Verizon charges grandfathered data users now, yes (afaik this is done automatically by their billing department, not much you can do to avoid it except change the plan which loses unlimited data). Otherwise, not sure what you mean. I currently pay $50 per month for the unlimited data. The phone's contract is on the other family plan line but yes extended for another two years and subsidized S7 price of $200
Edit: To be clear, when you upgrade to a subsidized phone using another line, the contract gets extended (and updated) on that other line, not the unlimited data line. That's how the loophole works. The rep told me that now they are actually looking at MEID when you swap the phone onto the unlimited data lines in their system and if they see it's a newly activated Verizon phone (phones bought elsewhere or off contract are safe) they force you to lose unlimited data. Somehow my rep got around this by just inserting my existing SIM card in the phone during activation rather than using VZW's computer system. Then he reverted the other line to the old phone so my unlimited data line was untouched.
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So what I did was order the S7 on my wife's upgrade line and we both have unlimited. I took out the new sim card and inserted her old one and it automatically switched the data to 2gb. So I took the phone back to get my unlimited back. That was the old loophole. Take out new sim and put old sim in.
But the only thing I can think of is that my phone was shipped from best buy store instead of warehouse maybe. So will try again from another retailer and see. Then bypass the activation on the phone and then insert my wife's sim after activating it on my line by inserting my sim card in it.

anrichardson said:
So what I did was order the S7 on my wife's upgrade line and we both have unlimited. I took out the new sim card and inserted her old one and it automatically switched the data to 2gb. So I took the phone back to get my unlimited back. That was the old loophole. Take out new sim and put old sim in.
But the only thing I can think of is that my phone was shipped from best buy store instead of warehouse maybe. So will try again from another retailer and see. Then bypass the activation on the phone and then insert my wife's sim after activating it on my line by inserting my sim card in it.
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Ah yeah that's trickier. The main rule of thumb now is don't change or update plans period.The only way I've been able to do that is use an already tiered data line to upgrade and then swap it to my line. Bummer that just activation switched you to the new tiered plan though Best of luck getting it back

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Ah yeah that's trickier. The main rule of thumb now is don't change or update plans period.The only way I've been able to do that is use an already tiered data line to upgrade and then swap it to my line. Bummer that just activation switched you to the new tiered plan though Best of luck getting it back
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I did get it back. But it does seem like they plugged all the loopholes now.

I used to keep up with my wife and I unlimited data. We never used to go over 10gb a month combined. I ditched it because VZW offered me 20gb for $100 to share with my family, wife and two kids (who are cellphone less). Plus I get a 20% discount. So 20gb for $80. Those way I just buy my phones out right or pay monthly. I did this for the S7 edge. Sold my 6p and paid off the rest of the phone. Plus I got an additional 2gb for the upgrade so 22gb for $80.

I just upgraded to the S7 yesterday at BestBuy. They ran it through as a straight 2yr upgrade with no change to my UDP.
DOES NOT WORK!!! Had to reverse upgrade and go back to my note 4. They submitted a ticket, and now I'm waiting on my UDP to be restored.
Same rules still apply....
1. You CANNOT transfer/use the upgrade from a UDP line, or you will loose your UDP.
2. You CAN either buy a phone at full retail or on the device payment plan (on top of your current billing).
3. IF you have another non-UDP line on your account eligible for an upgrade, you can upgrade and activate the new device on that line. THEN, you can swap the SIM's.
**Meanwhile those VZW A$$HATS are still making bank on my plan (with the subsidized phone costs included) + the $20 bump they added last year.

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I just upgraded to the S7 yesterday at BestBuy. They ran it through as a straight 2yr upgrade with no change to my UDP.
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How did that happen? Can you be specific?
I just read one of your older post from the note 4 "unlimited data". So technically you are already paying the extra $20 for each one of your lines with UDP. I am still under contract. 1 line is up in May and the other is up in March 2017. I am trying the loophole without having to pay the extra $20 fee for UDP per line.
But if I am putting the pieces together from an older post that you have, you are paying the $20 fee per line with UDP and you were able to sign up for the the 2 year deal to get the S7 at $200? OR you upgraded 1 of your tiered phones and switched?
I only have 2 lines on my account and both have UDP. It's not worth it just to add a line to get the the phone to keep unlimited data before the $20 increase. BUT if what you are saying that you upgraded the line with UDP to a 2 year deal that has the $20 extra fee for unlimited data, then there is still hope. I just may have to wait until May so they can charge me the $20 fee then upgrade.

anrichardson said:
How did that happen? Can you be specific?
I just read one of your older post from the note 4 "unlimited data". So technically you are already paying the extra $20 for each one of your lines with UDP. I am still under contract. 1 line is up in May and the other is up in March 2017. I am trying the loophole without having to pay the extra $20 fee for UDP per line.
But if I am putting the pieces together from an older post that you have, you are paying the $20 fee per line with UDP and you were able to sign up for the the 2 year deal to get the S7 at $200? OR you upgraded 1 of your tiered phones and switched?
I only have 2 lines on my account and both have UDP. It's not worth it just to add a line to get the the phone to keep unlimited data before the $20 increase. BUT if what you are saying that you upgraded the line with UDP to a 2 year deal that has the $20 extra fee for unlimited data, then there is still hope. I just may have to wait until May so they can charge me the $20 fee then upgrade.
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@anrichardson I edited my post. You cannot touch an upgrade on/from a UDP line and keep unlimited data.

Reporting my experience on #3. No need to activate then swap SIMS, I simply removed the shipped SIM before first boot and inserted the SIM from my UDP line. UDP still intact after new billing cycle.

schoolage1080 said:
Reporting my experience on #3. No need to activate then swap SIMS, I simply removed the shipped SIM before first boot and inserted the SIM from my UDP line. UDP still intact after new billing cycle.
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Can you explain further?
Because I upgraded my wife's line with UDP and turned old phone off and took out old sim out as well as taking out new sim before turning on. I then put old sim into S7 then booted up and that is where I lost my UDP.
Edit: By your expierence, did you try this after Verizon implamented the $20 price increase for UDP? Because I have done twice before they charged $20 extra and worked just fine for me too, but trying now with the S7 doesn't seem to work and like others as well.

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Can you explain further?
Because I upgraded my wife's line with UDP and turned old phone off and took out old sim out as well as taking out new sim before turning on. I then put old sim into S7 then booted up and that is where I lost my UDP.
Edit: By your expierence, did you try this after Verizon implamented the $20 price increase for UDP? Because I have done twice before they charged $20 extra and worked just fine for me too, but trying now with the S7 doesn't seem to work and like others as well.
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OK so I upgraded my UDP line on 11/14/15 (The LAST day for the Best Buy "Keep Existing Plan" method), ordered online, shipped S6 Edge+ to home removed the SIM before first boot, placed my wife's SIM (Non-Unlimited Line) in new phone, destroyed toxic SIM that Best Buy shipped, thus avoiding the $20/month UDP price hike. Then, I pre-ordered the S7 Edge, received on 3/9/16, before first boot removed SIM, swapped SIM from my UDP Device. Activated fine, avoided activation fee, kept $30/month UDP (until 11/15/17) left everything completely the same on my wife's tiered data plan.
No issue whatsoever, even got my new bill two days ago after using S7 Edge on UDP for exactly two weeks. To be clear, I never activated the S7 Edge on the line which I used the upgrade, never switched upgrades, just used my wife's upgrade and never let the S7 activate on that line. No issues with initial activation.