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coreplayer mobile - buy it, its fantastic!

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They did the same thing with coreavc, all sorts of things promised yonks again and never delivered.

Thanks for your post, though personally I've not rencoded anything for Coreplayer, everything plays fine.

O and O said:
Thanks for your post, though personally I've not rencoded anything for Coreplayer, everything plays fine.
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Try playing some 800*480, the processor isn't capable of it alone. Album and WMP can use acceleration on mp4/h264, so are capable of running higher res/bitrate files.

DVD rips play way better on Coreplayer. And most people just can't be arsed to encode a file for an hour while they can just play it instantly and fluidly with coreplayer.

dvd rip
yawn...........

I found coreplayer to juddery for full resolution movies. I find myself re-encoding most stuff anyway since there is no AC3 support and then i play them through windows media player. Works fine for me then.

As an interim measure they could just have implemented DirectShow support.
PocketPlayer has it and consequently it has hardware acceleration.
It may not allow CorePlayer to give us support for additional codecs but at least people wouldn't get mad because they've spent good money on a program that runs far slower than the free one that came with the phone.
I'm disappointed that almost 5 months since I bought CorePlayer it's still sitting there unused. For me it's been a waste of money, and I heard that they're expecting us to pay to upgrade to version 2.

Core player 1.3
I've used CP1.3 and it playes Rips without a problem (axxo, fxg, you name it) no conversion needed. 700mb straight on SD. Word of advice from the wise Don't buy, first you try.

They don't have a trial version available... but they claim on the forum that they do offer a refund if you buy it and aren't happy.

arghness said:
They don't have a trial version available... but they claim on the forum that they do offer a refund if you buy it and aren't happy.
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Be creative...

I have to say i to have run out of patience with Coreplayer. None of the core products seem to do anything to be honest. I tried Corecodec on my netbook, but it didn't improve performance over ffdshow at all, if anything it just made the output look worse.
For the HD i just use MP4forHD, conversion takes but moments on my quad core anyway.

Bugblatter said:
As an interim measure they could just have implemented DirectShow support.
PocketPlayer has it and consequently it has hardware acceleration.
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Pocket player is very slow when playing a .mp4 vide on my HD.
But WMP can play it fine. So either pocket player don't use the hardware acceleration or there is a settgin somewhere to enable it (so if you know about it please..pleas...).
I'm looking ofr a software that can remember where I am in a video (coreplayer can do it, I think pocket player can also do it). And that can use the hardware acceleration like in WMP.
Is there a plugin for WMP that could help me ?

Dogtag said:
Be creative...
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MOD EDIT
coreplayer is not freeware......please don't promote warez here.
thank you

Wow... nice flame, how about inviting me?
As far as stoolzo he was warned and then banned for not following the forum rules, no diff then he would here if he posted here out of line.
As far as the other posts/flames...
arfster... pls be specific to CoreAVC.... we have delivered everything we stated for 1.x including NVIDIA CUDA support. What we you looking for, higher res video not created for mobile devices? Come on.
arghness... correct we have no trial but we also have a no questions asked refund policy for CorePlayer. If it does not work for you, then you deserve your money back, simple.
Bugblatter... directshow is coming and as of now I am unaware of any other media player that supports as many hardware GPU schemes that CorePlayer does; Xscale, QtV (overlay), RMI, PS2, ATI Imageon and Coming later this year is both CUDA and OpenCL.
Bugblatter... also please tell me when PP added hardware accelleration support. For what GPU's?

beta_boy said:
Coming later this year is both CUDA and OpenCL.
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Will the Blackstone make use of this? The QTv support isn't useful at all, at least it doesn't improve the playback .
You have announced (here) that you plan to support QTv, how is it going on this matter?

stoolzo said:
After reading various reviews and the bumpf on their website about qtv and codec support i decided to purchase copeplayer for my touch hd. I soon found that where it was definately better than tcmp it wasnt £20 better. The main reason for the purchase though was the promise to have full QTV support which was promised by one of the developers "betaBoy" in various forumn threads. When it because clear that these promises where becoming empty I created a few threads to discuss this and question where the delays wre coming from. For this had all my threads deleted and after question "betaboy" through the private message forum I was banned for suggesting that it would be better to rencode existing media and use the HTC album player as it had full acceleration. Coreplayer are clearly hiding the fact that coreplayr will never have full support for the TOuch HD chipset and DO NOT PURCHASE THIS..!!!. Re-encoding is a pain but the results are nothing less than miraculous.
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Thank you for the useful news. But does TCPMP really work on Touch HD ? When I tried it I got an error and a log file to submit to developers... but it seems the project was discontinued. Maybe do exist more versions ? Some advice, please

forum ban
yawn............

its amazing what you can find on google
yawn..................

I've said this before and I will say it again in case you may have missed it.
We are ALL limited for supporting Qtv and by 'WE' I mean _ANY_ developer. Qualcomm has never released an SDK with any details of Snapdragon/Qtv's API's and what we have done in CorePlayer is reverse engineer what we could to support 'overlay only'. No other media player has attempted to do this and we did this are the specific request of our Community, including here at XDA.
Now as far as fully supporting Qtv/Snapdragon... we are working on directshow support atm for Windows and Windows CE/Mobile and it looks on the surface that we 'may' be able to full support the embedded CE/WM directshow filters that are on the supported devices.
The question is if we will need to finish the CE/WM port of the Haali Media Splitter. We are still a few weeks away before we get to the point but I'll fill everyone in as we continue to work on it.

Snapdragon hardware multimedia support, possible?

Hi!
I've been trying to find any documentation on Snapdragon's DSP and hardware based video and audio decoders. So far, nothing. I'm just thinking if it would be possible to cook the support into custom ROM as it is quite ridiculous that decoding something like MP3 or AAC takes any CPU time at all, as according to Qualcomm's web site Snapdragon has hardware support for decoding MP3, AAC and H.264. I take it Qualcomm only provides the documentation to partners, as it is impossible to find?
Hopefully full support for hardware acceleration comes with WM7, if it can not implemented on 6.5. Should be doable with custom driver (in kernel mode) anyway by cooking, provided the documentation is leaked or something.
Mikko.

It's not possible to have the SnapDragon documentation because Qualcomm will never release it.
It's possible instead to have the missing SnapDragon drivers for Linux or I hope for Windows CE only when a QSD based smartbook that will have these drivers will be out.
With Windows Mobile 7 it's a whole new story, new CE7 kernel and support for all the new ARM instructions. I hope that we'll get that things and soon

kholk said:
It's not possible to have the SnapDragon documentation because Qualcomm will never release it.
It's possible instead to have the missing SnapDragon drivers for Linux or I hope for Windows CE only when a QSD based smartbook that will have these drivers will be out.
With Windows Mobile 7 it's a whole new story, new CE7 kernel and support for all the new ARM instructions. I hope that we'll get that things and soon
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That's a waste of potential, but we can only wait (or not? )

you Cant really expect qualcomm to release documents on its IP.
but it would be nice if they and htc worked together to release a dev sdk.
if they are serious about developing the platform then its a step they really do need to make.
if samsung can get a sdk out for the omnia ii then it seems sensible to think htc need to play catchup.. the chipset does have potential,and it appears qualcomm are becoming more dev friendly.
look at what southend have achieved with some decent support from QC..

documentation?
Qualcomm should be giving documentation to ISVs its just a matter of it falling in the wrong(or right) hands. In the meantime, Snapdragon uses ARM Cortex-A9 core and you can find more details here:
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARMCortex-A9_MPCore.html
Not sure if that includes DSP.

My acer s200 has support for H.263, H.264 out the box =]

Ca5c4d3 said:
Qualcomm should be giving documentation to ISVs its just a matter of it falling in the wrong(or right) hands. In the meantime, Snapdragon uses ARM Cortex-A9 core and you can find more details here:
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARMCortex-A9_MPCore.html
Not sure if that includes DSP.
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Snapdragon is Cortex A8 based and yes it does have DSP

mightymn said:
Snapdragon is Cortex A8 based and yes it does have DSP
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Do you know are the hardware multimedia decoders really silicon or SIMD/DSP based? From the QC's documentation you get the feeling they are ASIC stuff, but it might be marketing and in reality they are IP cores.
Mikko.

mikolas said:
Do you know are the hardware multimedia decoders really silicon or SIMD/DSP based? From the QC's documentation you get the feeling they are ASIC stuff, but it might be marketing and in reality they are IP cores.
Mikko.
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Nope, don't know that

CoreAVC for Android

FYI for those looking to get MKV support & accelerated H264 playback on the Xoom, may want to petition Moto and ask them to license CoreAVC for Android,
http://twitter.com/CoreCodec/status/42963261569777664
Hopefully, CorePlayer to come soon.

e.mote said:
FYI for those looking to get MKV support & accelerated H264 playback on the Xoom, may want to petition Moto and ask them to license CoreAVC for Android,
http://twitter.com/CoreCodec/status/42963261569777664
Hopefully, CorePlayer to come soon.
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I used that years ago on an older Windows desktop that would not play any MKV reliably and it worked great.

posted it on their forum:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/46992

onicrom said:
posted it on their forum:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/46992
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Thanks... added my two pennies.

http://twitter.com/corecodec
GunmanTheH:
@CoreCodec Hope retail will come soon
CoreCodec:
@GunmanTheH the plan is to get it out asap, preferably by mid-month to retail.

Excellent. CorePlayer was my go to player on Windows Mobile. Hopefully this'll be available when I get my Xoom next month.

I dunno if moto would even be able to include this in the zoom, because it's a Google experience device. I will post on their forums tho along with you all.

Maybe Google needs to be made aware of this.
It would be awesome for MKV vids, but will it help out with other formats, as well?

I think getting the retail version will be the faster and more expedient route for most, as waiting for the firmware route, even if Moto is responsive, will take weeks or months.
However, it's important to let Moto know that you, as their customers, consider this feature as important and want it incorporated into the firmware. This allows derivative custom ROMs to also include the software on a quasi-legal basis, as the OEM license could be argued as being applicable for the device regardless of the firmware used.
@arrtoodeetoo
Supported formats in the link below are for CorePlayer,
http://corecodec.com/products/coreplayer
Note that the two popular audio codecs used mostly in "downloadable" HD videos (DTS and AC3) are not among the list. Betaboy (CC dev) has explicitly confirmed that AC3 won't be supported.
That means that those who have said videos will need to convert their audio tracks. This is fairly simple and fast (and can be batch processed), taking only minutes per full-length video.

Looking forward to this going live and hearing how it plays out.

Here are the platform-specific errata notes for CorePlayer.
http://forums.corecodec.com/threads/402-**-CorePlayer-Platform-Specific-Limitations-and-Notes
Ignore the list (it's 4 years old). The thing to note is the CC dev's remark below:
"Limitations are gonna be hard to pinpoint atm as there really is none other then bluetooth limitations. Codecs will become less of an issue as we will have in app purchasing for additional codecs."

Damn... I haven't used Core since my last winmo phone... I hope they don't charge to much for codecs. 1 or 2 bucks a pop each.

Wow I still have my COreplayer install file from my 5 year old phone! I would Love to see this on Honeycomb
PLz Moto Make it so!

I just posted on the thread at the Motorola Owner's forum. I am not holding out a tremendous amount of hope for OEM licensing, but CorePlayer should do the trick.

Regardless of whether Moto will or won't license Core, they need to know that the Xoom's multimedia support is awful. They won't know unless we tell them. From the Moto admin's responses, they're clueless.
http://twitter.com/corecodec
Re: Core - To clarify, the retail version mentioned as being released soonish is likely the CorePlayer 2.0 for Android & iOS. CoreAVC 2.5 is available to devs & OEMs, and will be available to Win/Lin/Mac (not Droid/iOS) end-users later.
CorePlayer notwithstanding, I still can't imagine that Nvidia would be content with having the entire wave of Tegra2 tabs being stuck with no accelerated multimedia support.
You can voice your queries about the Tegra2 multimedia support here,
http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forums/tegra-forums/android-development

OpenMax Armv6! Sign here!

Come on guyz!
We have to fight for OpenMax (important for camera and camcorder) for our beloved armv6 devices!
Sign Here:http://www.change.org/petitions/openmax-release-openmax-codecs-for-arm-v6#

Well, this is ARM7 device, not ARM6

Done

Help getting H/W encoder on our x8...

http://www.groubal.com/ics-compatible-openmax-il-compiled-for-armv6-from-qualcomm/#signatures
guys please check out this link and sign it for getting ICS-compatible OpenMAX IL compiled for ARMv6 from Qualcomm on our x8.
These drivers are required for making H/W encoder to work on ics roms and also better camera features. But we have to rely on Qualcomm for those drivers. Please sign the petition for getting those drivers from qualcomm to make all the ics roms completely functional.
For those who suggest using S/W decoder in MX player. Even using S/W encoder with the help MX player will have audio missallignment with video.
Hope you will sign it.:good:

Signed the petition! just waiting the response from Qualcomm
**Sorry for bad English

What???
Another petition..
Qualcomm already stated clearly that it wouldnt be providing the codecs..
Good day..

gowthamachandran said:
http://www.groubal.com/ics-compatible-openmax-il-compiled-for-armv6-from-qualcomm/#signatures
guys please check out this link and sign it for getting ICS-compatible OpenMAX IL compiled for ARMv6 from Qualcomm on our x8.
These drivers are required for making H/W encoder to work on ics roms and also better camera features. But we have to rely on Qualcomm for those drivers. Please sign the petition for getting those drivers from qualcomm to make all the ics roms completely functional.
For those who suggest using S/W decoder in MX player. Even using S/W encoder with the help MX player will have audio missallignment with video.
Hope you will sign it.:good:
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Looking at your Joining date i thought you already know that qualcomm already turned down that request... We are not going to have fully working ICS/JB on our X8 or any other ARMv6 device. NEVER!

aren't the JB or ICS ROMs good as they are? and Qualcomm won't provide the codecs, so yeah, no matter how many petitions you create, it won't make any difference at all. hope you understand.

sgt. meow said:
aren't the JB or ICS ROMs good as they are? and Qualcomm won't provide the codecs, so yeah, no matter how many petitions you create, it won't make any difference at all. hope you understand.
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Ofcourse they are good in performance... But what do you do to play videos in ics/jb roms.. using mx player doesn't sync audio and video..And sorry for the thread....i didn't know that qualcomm has turned down the petitions...
But what to do with the video playback on these roms.. I tried vitamio ARMV6 VFP plugin with supervideo player it is quite better when we minimize the video size comparing to mx player on these roms...
Try it and post your opinion...

This petition was already made. Qualcomm responded. They said they'll see what they can do. Joy was spread throughout ARMv6 device forums. Some time later Qualcomm responded. They basically told us they were not going to support us. Like ever. Our architacure is ancient. So basically they said to go f*ck ourselves. Happy ?