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Is it still worth it buying the vega. I have finally saved up £250 but it it still worth it ??
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I think it's still bang for the bucks. However, maybe you can try to find some model called Viewpad S or something like that, it's the same internals but with an LED screen.
Does it really have a other/better screen? Perpaps you have a source with images or video?
If thats true i think about sending my pov mobii back the 10s is available in some german online shops.
I was in the very same dilemma are yourself and took the plunge a week ago. Since then I have been on the very of taking it backup several times.
Good points:
1.Its cheap, very cheap, very cheap indeed.
2.Its fast, its very fast and smooth, fast out of the box and faster with a modded ROM (I use Fuji)
3.Its light and fairly well built, plastic but pretty solid.
4.The screen is bright and clear
5.It plays games extremely well - you need to apply an accelerometer fix though.
6. I found battery life pretty good.
7. Its ripe for Honeycomb, although what is this really going to bring other than visual goodies??
Bad points
1. viewing angles are not great at all,the over all screen quality isnt that good, however you do get used to it and it is bright and clear.
2. sound quality is very poor in my opinion, it sounds like it has been set to loud out of the Ad converters and distorts at only 50% volume. (HDMI quality is perfect though, so probably poor AD converters used - although a firmware update could fix this). Alternatively it could be a codec issue as higher but rates sound a lot better than lower bit rates - disproportionatly so.
3. it cant play H264 high profile video, this however is a limitaion of Tegra that I was not aware of, so if you are thinking of playing those 1 gig 720p TV rips, think again unless you want to waste your time converting everything.
4.THink this really needs 3g, I found the wireless pretty good but others say its flakey, havent tried tethering yet but it looks complicated to get working.
5. No market out of the box, however anyone buying this tablet will want to immediately put a decent ROM on it so that not really an issue.
6. Only 512 NAND - 4 gig SD onboard. If you consider the screen is cheap and the SD card is only worth a few quid then spending another £50 on a better tablet might be worth it to get a better screen and 3G
conclusions:
If you are on a budget this tablet rocks, it really does. If money is not an issue consider waiting for the Xoom or even better the Galaxy tab 10.1 - I may sell this and get one when it arrives.
I agree , but it`s normally £150 or most to get a bether screen and 3g
I actually had a really good look around last night and could really find anything that came close price vs performance features. Most of the others have more onboard memory but some dont even have HDMI. The viewpad looked to be a decent option but has no HDMI and it quite a bit more expensive.
I was the same I looked and looked to try and find a better tablet for the price nd couldn't find one lol its a very good device and I'm happy the only thing is there's not much development going on but I'm hoping that will change
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I will buy it then currently I'm building a Rom for the desire with my cousin maybe we could make one for the vega
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For android devices I think it's still one of the best for the money... The screen could be better but really isn't that bad (if you're using it alone, it gets nastier when tyou want to show a video to someone).
You might want to consider an iPad now that those prices have dropped (sorry that I dropped that word here, but it's certainly a good alternative now that the price is more competative.)
To comment on the negatives above:
1. viewing angles are not great at all,the over all screen quality isnt that good, however you do get used to it and it is bright and clear.
As mentioned, only is really an issue when showing things to other ppl or looking at the tablet with more then 1 person.
2. sound quality is very poor in my opinion, it sounds like it has been set to loud out of the Ad converters and distorts at only 50% volume. (HDMI quality is perfect though, so probably poor AD converters used - although a firmware update could fix this). Alternatively it could be a codec issue as higher but rates sound a lot better than lower bit rates - disproportionatly so.
Speakers from the tablet are mediocre indeed (but not that bad), connecting it to speakers seems to generate a nice sound but have experiment some more with that.
3. it cant play H264 high profile video, this however is a limitaion of Tegra that I was not aware of, so if you are thinking of playing those 1 gig 720p TV rips, think again unless you want to waste your time converting everything.
Nothing to add
4.THink this really needs 3g, I found the wireless pretty good but others say its flakey, havent tried tethering yet but it looks complicated to get working.
Using another android phone as a wifi connection is easy as hell... Can't comment on other phones. You just check a checkbox in the phone to make it act as a mobile point and the vega sees it as a wifi connection. Works very nicely...
5. No market out of the box, however anyone buying this tablet will want to immediately put a decent ROM on it so that not really an issue.
True, but appearantly it's a limitation by google itself and not the manufacturer of the tablet. Also easy to circumvent.
6. Only 512 NAND - 4 gig SD onboard. If you consider the screen is cheap and the SD card is only worth a few quid then spending another £50 on a better tablet might be worth it to get a better screen and 3G
Make that 150... But yeah, would be nice to have some more ram and/or storage but must say it's sufficient for now (and just put in a 16GB or 32GB SDcard...)
Hmm nice ideas people I will buy at the weekend probably
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Also been looking around. And there seems to be nothing to touch this device at this price and build quality. It is currently available (in the UK) for £200. I played with the iPad 2 and this tablet and their build quality was very similar -- but the iPad 2 is around *three* times the price.
I will buy one over the next week
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I had the same dilemma but for the price it it definatly worth it I haven't looked back and it almost replaces my laptop now. Plus their are great Android tablet woos out their it just takes a bit more looking.
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There is also the acer iconia a100 probably will still bu the vega. Can't wait !!!!!!
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My Vega just arrived and i am loving it. Havent had too much chance to play with it yet but first impressions are very good. It is better out of the box than i was expecting, if this had google stuff out of the box i would recommend to anyone, as it is i would still recommend to anyone who can google competently.
Very glad i bought this now, i was considering just going for original ipad since the price drop, but this thing will blow it out the water when i get it hacked and fully working. Also loving the fact that i can just turn my phone into wifi hotspot at work and start using it straight away no need for any connection to computer at all. Suck that ipad/iphone.
If they get it updated with Honeycomb at some stage with google apps this would become a killer device.
Sorry for the rant just so happy to get the vega after around a week of waitign for it to be delivered.
Hi guys need a bit of advice iv been offered an advent vega for 140 pounds. Iv been wanting a tablet for a while now, what i want to no is should i buy this or should i buy another tablet. Im aware that im asking people who own one but i trust ill recieve good opinions.
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Hi its hard to say I picked one up for 160 with case. If I had paid 220 like the receipt showed I wouldn't of been happy. I find you have to watch out for double key presses of keyboard a lot unless using vega comb it doesn't seem to do it. Browsing the web is rapid. Reading books excellent with kindle app. Watching movies or series excellent speakers are not bad unless movie is recorded quiet just use head phones. It overclocks to 1.5ghz no probs. Hdmi is good bonus. Dock is cheap. Chinese tablets of equivelent price have crap CPUs. Rdp works well. Battery seems good. The screen is ok a bit shiny in portrait but useable. If you look at a transformer or iconia then it looks like a photo frame but then it does everything they do but its so much cheaper and I wouldn't spend 350 just to surf web, check eBay, emails book reading and watch odd movie. 140 is cheap considering they go on eBay for 190 ish still.
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Cool think i may go for it does flash work ok? Double keypress sounds a bit anoying
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Yeah it works get some lines on iplayer not much of a big deal. It's only annoying when you type a password but apparently new ones should be better although mine was bought in April it could have sat for a while. I wanted a tablet but knew it would never replace a proper laptop for researching around the net so the price was good otherwise I would have got a really nice portable laptop for the price of a better tablet like a transformer. If vegacomb gets finished it really is amazing value for money.
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Thanks for the advice i guess ill have a think about it this week
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I have a Vega, bought new and I switch between CM7 and Vegacomb both play iPlayer and Youtube,using flash 10.3 with no lines or any other artifacts. Hope this is of some help.
Stransky
(Douglas)
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It really is a good choice! I think it's good value for your bucks!
Well was guna wait a week an think but im going tommorow to buy is ther a more public forum thats active? Not that heres not active
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Yeah there's modaco forum just put advent vega modaco into Google. I was suprised that there isn't much going on but I think corvus5 Rom has figured it all out there doesn't seem anything else to do Rom wise except vegacomb and hopefully icecream one day. This isn't the best tablet in the world but for what you would use a tablet for i don't think the expensive ones do it any better. I'm going to play with this one to stop my hunger for having a tablet then pass it on and get a nicer one when they get to a reasonable price like the vega.
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LAG :-(
I bought a vega the other day! Would recommend it with normal stock rom, however, i bought it off someone who put VegaComb 1.7 on, and I've over clocked it to even 1.5 ghz and yet it still lags everywhere - would love help on how to fix this!!!
It's an 'old' model but still great value. Browsing is fast, video is ok, USB host and BT allows extensibility.
Hey guys, I am considering whether or not buying a KF. Honestly, it will not be used as a reader or used with any of Amazon's services. Rather I am buying it to have a solid piece of hardware that runs the Android operating system and hoping to see Kindle specific roms in the future (CM7 gives me hope). This will be a toy to use for media and occasionally on the go. Is it worth buying in hopes of future developing and tinkering?
Anyone have any input?
Just got mine yesterday and I would say yes it is worth the price tag for what you want to do. I rooted mine and put cm7 on it within minutes of opening it and haven't looked back.
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What is the status of CM7 at this point? Is it fully functional?
I'd want to install CM7 and use SetCPU (if anyone has overclocked this thing yet).
I think the Kindle Fire is a great device for the cheap price.
I have my Kindle Fire for about 2 Weeks. At first i rooted the device and used Go Launcher Ex for a while, but I didn't like it. Then i decided to use CM7. It is very usable I think. There some problems with the MAC address and some forced closes sometimes.
Today i flashed the early Version of ICS from JackpotClavin. It is very smooth and with ICS the Kindle Fire feels like a Tablet. With CM7 the Kindle Fire feels like a big smartphone for me. ICS isn't finished yet and there are some problems with sdcard and forced closes.
If you can wait until the Custom Roms are more perfect I think the Kindle Fire is a good decision to buy.
I bought mine to use solely as a tablet. I installed cm7 as soon as it was avaliable and haven't looked back. i bought it without any intention if using any of amazon's services. it's a great tablet plus it fits in a pocket. dual core, so it can run 720p h264 very well. plus with the overclock it'll be even better. the only complaint i have is it doesn't have an sd card slot, so you only have like 8-10 gigs of space to put stuff on, but it's not a big problem for me. cm7 is very stable. I have no fc's that i can remember, video works, sound works, plus there's a cifs module compiled so you can even mount samba shares. definately worth it in my opinion.
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Hey guys, I am considering whether or not buying a KF. Honestly, it will not be used as a reader or used with any of Amazon's services. Rather I am buying it to have a solid piece of hardware that runs the Android operating system and hoping to see Kindle specific roms in the future (CM7 gives me hope). This will be a toy to use for media and occasionally on the go. Is it worth buying in hopes of future developing and tinkering?
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I have put four of these on my network at home everyone always waiting for workstation time. Now more than enough browsers for everyone. They have been rock solid so far. Running CM7 rom on all of them.
Yes, it's the best tablet you can buy for 200 dollars. An iPad is not 2.5 times better than it. I honestly think if you know your way around adb it is a magical device, with endless possibilities. Buy one, you won't regret it.
Using splashtop and orb to stream, I haven't put the thing down. I never need to leave the couch. Best thing I ever bought for light browsing, massive media, and email. I'm always around wifi so the 5.5 gig memory constraint is not a problem. ymmv with what you intend to do with it.
Edit: Orb has a beta apk on their website if you don't want to buy. It works great on the fire, worth the money if you decide to buy since no memory card.
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Buy it!
It's great value for money. I've put CM7 on mine and now it's a pretty nifty tablet. In any case, I couldn't use any of Amazon's services (apart from buying books) being outside the US.
I own a few other tablets and the only features I miss on the Fire are the lack of hardware volume controls and mic. Otherwise, the performance of the tab (with CM7) is great and the size is pretty convenient too. It definitely doesn't feel like a cheap tablet.
Thanks for the replies guys, I decided to pull the trigger on one and it will be here Friday.
CM7 appears to not have functioning sound so I'm just gonna root it for now and wait until a fully functional ROM is released, shouldn't be long. ICS looks promising as well.
Read the "Standing on the shoulders of giants" CM7 thread. Sound and hardware acceleration are working just fine.
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Oh, I guess I watched an older video then that said it didn't work.
Love mine! Just got it for christmas. get it!
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So i am looking into getting my first tablet. I am debating between these two mainly for the price. I know the A500 is last years model but it has the hdmi and the rear camera which the A200 doesnt. However, Im sure the A200 will get the ICS update first being the newer model... Im leaning toward the A200 because i know i wont use the rear camera but im not sure i will be using the hdmi. Ideas?
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So i am looking into getting my first tablet. I am debating between these two mainly for the price. I know the A500 is last years model but it has the hdmi and the rear camera which the A200 doesnt. However, Im sure the A200 will get the ICS update first being the newer model... Im leaning toward the A200 because i know i wont use the rear camera but im not sure i will be using the hdmi. Ideas?
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I'm not going to tell you which to get, but a refurb A500 32gig model is $300 today on woot.
http://www.woot.com/
Oh great. Now I have to hurry up in my decision! Haha... Thanks for the info
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I bought a refurb A500 from Walmart.com for $278 & it just arrived yesterday (it's the 16gb model & the woot one is a 32gb)...I absolutely love the a500!!! I played wit hthe a200 at Best Buy after I placed my order for the a500...and I am VERY happy I got the A500. The a200 is a nice tab...but no HDMI out and no rear camera...not major things but any advantage is good...
I've had the A500 since July and I do not think I have ever tried the camera or the HDMI. To me, it's all about the custom roms (currently rocking the Honeylicious 3.2.1). I don't see the need for a rear facing camera and I'm sure we will get ICS in some form or another eventually. All comes down to $ imho.
Can go wrong with either. One drawback of the A500 is the microphone. Its crap
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Depends entirely on how you plan to use it, if you see a time in the future that you might want to play a movie over HDMI then go the A500 or A501, If you are happy just using the tablet as a tablet and not using the feature on the A500/501 then go for the A200...
I know its nice to save a buck or 2 but I have found that occasionally I have used the HDMI out and its good I don't have to stuff around to share movies at friends places...
But as I said, that was good for me....
i really like the feel of the a200. feels like a high-end device.
although i dont use the rear cam a lot, its one of those things where i would be kicking myself when a time comes that i do need it, such as taking pics of documents for pdf conversion
same with the hdmi port. i barely use it but the time i do i am happy i have a tab with hdmi and full size usb.
as for the front cam on the a500, be cautious tho that the alignment is fudged up. not sure if its like that on all a500 but it makes is useless and very awkward to use because u have to tilt the tab at an angle
I'm looking to get my first Android tablet. I've always rooted and run custom firmware on my Android phones, so I need a "cheap" Android tablet with a healthy developer community and a lot of support.
My first thought was to go for the $250 Nook Tablet, spec for spec it's better than the Kindle Fire; but didn't an update come out for it recently that made rooting it near impossible or so highly difficult that it hasn't been done yet?
Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore? I need a working Android Market (Oh I'm sorry, I mean <sarcasm>Play Store</sarcasm>) and good custom ROM's including ICS.
Then I see a $189 Lenovo A1 Tablet at Best Buy with decent specs. It's running Android 2.3 which I'd normally prefer over Android 3.0/Honeycomb but now that ICS/Android 4.0 is out, I'd definately want to run that on my tablet.
So is ICS running very good/stable on any sub $300 Android tablet? I wonder when the $250 Tegra3 based tablet from Asus (or is it Acer...) comes out. Suggestions on which route to go?
I'm interested in this too. Are you not interested in going the used route though?
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I'm interested in this too. Are you not interested in going the used route though?
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I have no issues with going used, in fact it could even be preferred. I can get a used Kindle Fire from the local Craigslist for $140-$160.
I can get a $250 Nook Tablet (not the new cheaper one) for about $195 on Craigslist.
I wonder what the status is of Android on the HP TouchPad's are, did they get Android 4.0/ICS running on it? The HW specs are quite good.
I am very happy with CM9 on my HP Touch pad..
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I am very happy with CM9 on my HP Touch pad..
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Not to hijack this thread, I know I'm in a Kindle Fire forum, but what are the known issues with CM9 on the HP Touchpad? The HP Touchpads specs are superior to the Kindle Fire's (naturally considering the Touchpad is originally a $500 tablet), but CM9 on the Kindle Fire only has 3 known issues (HW Acceleration, 720p video and Bluetooth); Doesn't CM9 on the HP Touchpad have a lot more known issues "HD Video/codecs not working, Speaker farting noise when screen is off, Wifi hit or miss, Sound still has some major issues to be worked on, Camera doesn't work yet (therefore no skype and what not), Reboot to recovery hit or miss, No Mic"?
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Suggestions on which route to go?
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You are in KF forum, so probably most common answer will be Kindle Fire
Anyway, IMHO
KF pros
Very good build quality
Powerful proc
Gorilla glass & good screen
Price
Existence of excellent CM7 ROM (see my sig)
ICS on the way
KF contra
No SD card slot
No bluetooth and never will be
No USB support (as far as I know there are theoretical possibilities to hack this).
Personaly I am very pleased with KF for $200
I thing you would get a better Tablet for 350 $. Maybe the huwei Mediapad wich is pretty awsome.
But the Kindle had a very good dev community.
I dont like the Lenovo A1, of course the community is ok, but hardware is not so good as the fire one is. Take a look at the Display its awfull and the CPU is a single core.
I buy a used Fire in germany for about 190$ and they sell a new A1 for about 180$ here.
Look at the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545172 Hashcode is in development for a 3.0 kernel, dont know if somwone does for Lenevo.
no matter ICS is tunning very well with the 2.6 kernel
My only con with kf is connecting to wifi. I heard it was a kernel thing and it may also be my router. Hopefully it gets fixed with the new 3.0 kernel, if not I'm thinking of selling my kf. It's a good device, but it gets really annoying when I can't connect, makes it pointless
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It is actually super easy to root the kindle fire
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My only con with kf is connecting to wifi. I heard it was a kernel thing and it may also be my router. Hopefully it gets fixed with the new 3.0 kernel, if not I'm thinking of selling my kf. It's a good device, but it gets really annoying when I can't connect, makes it pointless
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I never had a problem to connect to any wifi. Explain your issue.
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My only con with kf is connecting to wifi. I heard it was a kernel thing and it may also be my router. Hopefully it gets fixed with the new 3.0 kernel, if not I'm thinking of selling my kf. It's a good device, but it gets really annoying when I can't connect, makes it pointless
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i used to have the same problem i started using raven's kernal now no problems it actually will now connect to my home and work and switch between the 2 without doing anything. this may or maynot help but worth a try
I wouldn't recommend the fire unless you plan on using it as Amazon intended with prime. Most apps do not behave right on CM7 and the lack of volume controls make it even worse.
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I'd hold out for the "Nexus Tablet" that is supposedly launching very soon. It's rumored to be like the Kindle Fire size-wise, run Tegra 3, and be $150!
I'm on cm9 from bl1nk thread and if one of my rooms in my house has a weak wifi signal I'll lose connection. I noticed in a few days of flashing a rom it gets worse and worse. I'm going to try another kernel like someone suggested, see if that helps
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I'd hold out for the "Nexus Tablet" that is supposedly launching very soon. It's rumored to be like the Kindle Fire size-wise, run Tegra 3, and be $150!
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That will be pretty sweet if it's true
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Kindle can be rooted easily
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Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore? I need a working Android Market (Oh I'm sorry, I mean <sarcasm>Play Store</sarcasm>) and good custom ROM's including ICS.
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I actually rooted my Kindle fire on the newest 6.2.2 update (it did take me a little while cause it's the first time ive used a computer to root) and I even got ICS to work on it swimmingly... but i took it off because it's still in beta. As for the market every single app ive downloaded from there works too.
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I wouldn't recommend the fire unless you plan on using it as Amazon intended with prime. Most apps do not behave right on CM7 and the lack of volume controls make it even worse.
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Disagree completely. I have had CM7 on two Kindles for months now with absolutely zero problems. If you experienced problems with "most apps" then I am guessing you had serious user errors, not CM or KF errors. Plus, having an onscreen volume slider with the Volume Control app works beautifully.
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Not to hijack this thread, I know I'm in a Kindle Fire forum, but what are the known issues with CM9 on the HP Touchpad? The HP Touchpads specs are superior to the Kindle Fire's (naturally considering the Touchpad is originally a $500 tablet), but CM9 on the Kindle Fire only has 3 known issues (HW Acceleration, 720p video and Bluetooth); Doesn't CM9 on the HP Touchpad have a lot more known issues "HD Video/codecs not working, Speaker farting noise when screen is off, Wifi hit or miss, Sound still has some major issues to be worked on, Camera doesn't work yet (therefore no skype and what not), Reboot to recovery hit or miss, No Mic"?
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The TouchPad's version of CM9 took a few revisions for hardware acceleration for HD video content, but alpha 2 fixed that. I've been using the TouchPad's since alpha 0.5 as a daily driver. In all those revisions and ROMs I have never had the speaker issue you mention in android. Before CM9 I would get that occasionally in webOS. I have only had wifi issues with CM7, CM9 and webOS have had solid stable wifi. From what I understand its more about the router channel than anything else. Overlapping SSIDs on the same channel causes the issue, and changing the channel on the router usually fixes it. My sound is great. Now that HW accel works HD YouTube looks and sounds great. Hulu+ and Netflix look great and sound perfect. There is no camera support, and I think that's very low on the priority list. You can always switch to webOS for video chat. Note that you cannot remove webOS, you dual boot. That's part of the issue with reboot to recovery. You cannot boot directly into recovery. When you power up you get a boot menu, after 5 seconds android boots. But, from that menu you can select recovery or webOS. I use a delay of 1 second because its very rare for me to need to boot to recovery or webOS. I have never checked the mic, so I can't comment on that, again though, it will work in webOS. With the TP don't discount webOS. Its stable, snappy, elegant, and intuitive. I thought it was better than CM7. The only thing it lacks is apps. The browser is great, and supports flash.
On Black Friday I had a Kindle Fire in my cart on Amazon, hoping for a black Friday deal. I saw an ad for the TouchPad for $99, and after 30 seconds of research I knew I wanted that instead. I ended up getting one for $195 NIB. To me a tablet is mainly an internet device, and a web browsing device. The 10" vs 7" screen makes a world of difference. Its still just as portable, but that extra screen makes web browsing basically desktop class. The TouchPad also has the TouchStone, the inductive charger. I never have to mess with cables, and never see battery below 75% because after a few hours of use I put it on the charger. Those sold for $90 new, but you can get then $40 easy. Plus the HP case is really nice for $15 usually. To me is was a no brainer. But I'm someone that has been on xda for years, flashing a ROM every week. When my family ask what to get I always recommend the Kindle Fire over the nook, and over the TP. The Amazon app store alone tips the scales over any nook advantage. But, those are users that need the device to work out of box, and consistently, without any hacking. I would still bet on the Kindle Fire getting more support here.
Sorry to derail the thread ...
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ive got a Kindle Fire and for 200 bucks, you cant beat it. i rooted mine before the update, so i dont know how difficult it is to root on 6.2.2 (which i believe is the newest firmware), but i believe someone has gotten it done
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Disagree completely. I have had CM7 on two Kindles for months now with absolutely zero problems. If you experienced problems with "most apps" then I am guessing you had serious user errors, not CM or KF errors. Plus, having an onscreen volume slider with the Volume Control app works beautifully.
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Right lol...If your intention is rooting and using cm, buying a first gen android tablet for about the same price makes much more sense. It is something with the aspect ratio, I had numerous apps not behave correctly when going from landscape to portrait, and the software volume control options on cm7 were hideous. The tablet is great if you intend on using it in conjunction with prime as amazon intended though.
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