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HTC Desire HD vs Nexus S

Hello, guys, it seems that Nexus S is finally announced but it has almost the same tech specs, that Samsung Galaxy S had and probably completely the same design.
The problem is that my Samsung Captivate is broken and I am coming to UK in 1 week just for 3 days and Nexus S will not be in stores at that moment. I am not sure wheather to buy DHD in England for a lower price than in Moscow or to wait 1 week more and to buy Nexus S.
What would you advise? Is DHD a GOOD phone? Shouldn't I wait for that Samsung' made phone?
BTW my Captivate was broken because of that Super Amoled screen, I even don't know why (and can't replace it).... Just advise me something
And could you please name some retail stores in which I can buy DHD in London? Not using online stores

The DHD has far better specs than the SGS. Until someone tests the new Nexus S against the SGS & DHD no-one is the wiser.
Hopefully Samsung fixed all the issues with the SGS when making the Nexus S, otherwise you've just got baking hot Android on a really poor handset.

Nexus S is only pre order it won't be in stored anytime this year.
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Aamir.Badat said:
Nexus S is only pre order it won't be in stored anytime this year.
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Yes it will, december 16th for UK and 20th for US. Other countries I don't know.

Before the Nexus S was announced I was excited and thought I will be buying it as my next device.
Now that its been announced i am dissapointed to say the least. All it is is a samsung galaxy s with a NFC chip and gyro sensor. I also just found out that it doesn't come with a sd card slot which is unacceptable . The only good thing about the samsung is the S Amoled screen. The build quality on the samsung is poor and cheap.
The desire HD wins hands down for me, with its beautiful design and gorgeous big screen .
Hope this helps .

Aamir.Badat said:
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Nexus S is available on the 16th of December.
however dhd is a spec wise better phone ie more ram 2nd gen snapdragon ect...
however the nexus S is a developer phone you get updates and support from google and its designed to be a reference hence the todays average specs nfc chips front camera ect....
personally id just by the dhd and use a 2.3 stock rom that will no doubt be released soon
as for waiting for dual core android phones ...well if the nexus S is the new reference phone for devs then chances are that our dhd's will be viable till the next dev reference after the nexus S

ethe DHD has higher specs, 720p video recording against 480p, 8MP cam against 5MP, 768RAM against 512, dual flash against one, 4.3 inch screen against 4, metal unibody construction against light plastic, real pixel density against virtual
the nexus S pluses feature better screen coating, much better view angles and deeper blacks but pentile matrix virtual density, frontal cam, NFC & gyro, better battery, less cell radiation and ofcourse enjoyable official OS support
both feature similar processors at 45nm 1GHZ, the DHD processor is optimised can be easily OCed to 1.5, both have great GPUs, the S gpu stronger in theory
the nexus S feels refined and subtle, the DHD is a badass big daddy
looking at the nexus S its clear the DHD is already HTC's answer, I expect them to announce 2.3 soon

hamdir said:
the nexus S feels refined and subtle, the DHD is a badass big daddy
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Sorry couldn't help...Loved this quote. Seems like DHD is answer to all the phones featuring a Single core processor running android.
Just love the phone.

hamdir said:
ethe DHD has higher specs, 720p video recording against 480p, 8MP cam against 5MP, 768RAM against 512, dual flash against one, 4.3 inch screen against 4, metal unibody construction against light plastic, real pixel density against virtual
the nexus S pluses feature better screen coating, much better view angles and deeper blacks but pentile matrix virtual density, frontal cam, NFC & gyro, better battery, less cell radiation and ofcourse enjoyable official OS support
both feature similar processors at 45nm 1GHZ, the DHD processor is optimised can be easily OCed to 1.5, both have great GPUs, the S gpu stronger in theory
the nexus S feels refined and subtle, the DHD is a badass big daddy
looking at the nexus S its clear the DHD is already HTC's answer, I expect them to announce 2.3 soon
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seconded.
Just my 2 cents tho - in theory the SAMOLED and the coating give the Nexus S an advantage ( the blacks, the viewing angles, the power drain ). What they don't tell you is that in practice:
how much "blacker" can it get? trust me u got enough black on DHD to racially abuse it
The viewing angles on DHD are already ~160. I don't know how u hold ur phone but even 130 would be pretty much enough for me
And the less power consumption only counts if "black pixels" prevail in what u got on the display. Read : if u browse/read a book/have a light wallpaper it eats the battery for brunch (consumption is almost twice as high as SLCD)

They're really two completely different phones for different kinds of people. I will have both phones in the house so it's no biggie. But the nexus s gpu is superior and the phone has the benefit of full google support. As an android enthusiast I rate that support highly.

jivemaster said:
They're really two completely different phones for different kinds of people. I will have both phones in the house so it's no biggie. But the nexus s gpu is superior and the phone has the benefit of full google support. As an android enthusiast I rate that support highly.
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Yes but the DHD has Cyanogen !!!!!!!

jivemaster said:
They're really two completely different phones for different kinds of people. I will have both phones in the house so it's no biggie. But the nexus s gpu is superior and the phone has the benefit of full google support. As an android enthusiast I rate that support highly.
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yes me too my wife wanted the desire Z badly but now im convincing her with the Nexus S, the design plus weight is a little female
however i still feel the DHD is better, regarding the GPU we are yet to see a game that performs better on the galaxy S, lots of the sexy stuff in gingerbread we already have in the new sense if not better like copy paste functionality, i also found this interesting the nexus S got rid of the touchpad and has the speaker output at the bottom just like the DHD
as for super amoled, i had a desire amoled and it pissed the hell out of my eyes, i'm a graphics artist and the pentile grid just drove me mad, that was on a smaller 3.7 inch screen, i'm sure at 4.0 the situation is even worse
i wear glasses, sometimes the amoled screen looked so high res and sometimes it looked low, 1 pixels outlines looked doted, its just a silly solution and compared to retina it fails bad in pixel density
if the DHD had the sexy SLCD like the classic desire/Z it would have won hands down in my eyes

bahkata said:
seconded [...]
And one last thing - if the plastic feels as cheap as the galaxy s - f*ck it. People aren't paying 600 euros for the feel of holding their mom's €4.50 dildo.
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This is a hell of a badass statement! I will use it, if you allow me to.
And the point you make about the black/white backgrounds and S AMOLED screen is true. You just forgot to say, to the S Amoled advantage, that it has better contrasts too.
f.

we can't simply fool ourselves and deny the advantages of amoled like the infinite contrast, extreme angles and in case of super amoled the sunlight visibility
however equally reviewers can't just go and shout super amoled wooohoooo, both amoled and super have the active matrix grid, which give it much less pixel accuracy then the stated specs, ie its not 235ppi like they state
just put any amoled device next to slcd device or iphone 4 or even the DHD and you will see what i mean, the definition on amoled is fuzzier
also samoled had extreme colours saturation which isn't accurate but we don't know if this is the case with the nexus S
IPS LCDs or super LCDs are the best solution if you ask me

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Yes but the DHD has Cyanogen !!!!!!!
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true, but to be honest it would be nice to get updates officially without rooting and about a week after release of said updates.
But I do think the desire hd is the better phone more ram comparable cpu/gpu, but nothing comes close to unibody build quality
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Maybe the nexus s will get cyanogenmod too. Cyanogen does not officially support any Samsung at this stage, but that may change since the s is a dev phone.
Personally I don't give a flying **** for the samsung. Spec wise there is not much difference but the chitty plastic shell and lack of an sd slot make the nexus s a fail in my book.
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i'm feeling a little betrayal from google, after all it was the hero and htc's efforts that made android so popular
really interested to know the details of this google nexus deal

i think you will find its not something major for example the dev android tablet is a motrola one which was demoed the other day, i think you will find android is spreading its dev devices over the differnt manufacturers and not favoriting manufacturers.
i guess it kinda highlets their openness ?

yes i agree they can't favor a manufacturer

Samsung is a more widely known manufacturer. Its only recently that HTC started selling devices under the HTC brand name. Most would end up as a carrier branded handset.

Samsung Galaxy S2 over xperia aRc

Hi guys,
Currently m using aRc, can u help me to know the pros n cons of SGS2..
I am planning to buy one!!
Thanks in advance.
sent from Xperia Arc

SGS II has:
faster processors
A LOT BIGGER rom space (ROM space of arc is just unacceptably small)
more RAM
arguably better screen
thinner & lighter

I've had both but sold my Arc.
SGS2 is much faster and smoother in day to day use.
Lack of Ram seems to cripple Arc a little.
Camera is at least as good on SGS but video recorder is much better than Arc.
Codec support on music and videos ostensibly once again better on SGS2.
Screen quality is much more subjective - i actually thought the Arc screen was really good.
Arc has the better design although it feels a bit long and thin compared to the SGS2. The SGS2 feels like it has a much bigger screen?
Build quality wasn't great on my Arc - felt even more plasticky than the Samsung and the battery panel creaked all the time on the Arc. SGS2 feels much more sold.
Hope that helps
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gupta.anurag08 said:
Hi guys,
Currently m using aRc, can u help me to know the pros n cons of SGS2..
I am planning to buy one!!
Thanks in advance.
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It's kind of amazing as to how can you buy say Arc,Desire S & all those single core superphones & than try to compare them with Atrix/Optimus 2x/SGS 2.
All these phones Arc/Desire S{single core is what i meant} are more than a very capable smartphones,can do most of the daily work.
But put them next to any of the dual cores & differences are there.
Why have you gone for Arc when SGS 2 launch was so near?

victorinoxs said:
SGS II has:
faster processors
A LOT BIGGER rom space (ROM space of arc is just unacceptably small)
more RAM
arguably better screen
thinner & lighter
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you are right except 1 point and that is the screen. The colors of the ARC is more realistic and the screen is the best screen for in direct sunlight. No other screen comes close to it.

android_master said:
It's kind of amazing as to how can you buy say Arc,Desire S & all those single core superphones & than try to compare them with Atrix/Optimus 2x/SGS 2.
All these phones Arc/Desire S{single core is what i meant} are more than a very capable smartphones,can do most of the daily work.
But put them next to any of the dual cores & differences are there.
Why have you gone for Arc when SGS 2 launch was so near?
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Dual core is not everything, before the SGS2 comes out. Those dual cores like the LG and Atrix does not prove to be faster. Actually the LG pretty sucks for a dual core phone. Single core phone is faster then the LG and that says alot.

More ram on S2, if you do a lot of browsing on the device like me, you will come to appreciate the extra ram, something that used to piss me right off about my S1!

hung77 said:
you are right except 1 point and that is the screen. The colors of the ARC is more realistic and the screen is the best screen for in direct sunlight. No other screen comes close to it.
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Display
Sony Ericsson's Xperia Arc comes packing a dazzling 4.2-inch scratch-resistant LED-backlit LCD display, capable of excellent colour reproduction, which is hugely responsive. When you add to that mix Sony's Bravia Mobile engine you end up with a truly noteworthy screen, capable of rivalling, or even surpassing, virtually anything on the market – everything, that is, apart from the Samsung Galaxy S II.
The Galaxy S II brings the latest in a long line of amazing Samsung screens to market, in the form of a cutting-edge 4.3-inch Super AMOLED display, which not only renders colours faithfully, and offers unsurpassed sunlight legibility, but sucks up about 1/3 as much power as the LCD on the Xperia Arc.
Winner - Samsung Galaxy S II
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http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/771128/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_sony_ericsson_xperia_arc.html
In regards to the screen size, Galaxy S II offers a slightly bigger screen at 4.3 –inch compared to that of Xperia Arc (4.2-inch). Samsung Super AMOLED display provides excellent sunlight legibility and needs only 1/3 of the power amount used by Xperia’s LCD display.
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please dont compare the phones as they are not even in the same level.
Arc is more of an Galaxy 1 line. the difference is they have HDMI support.
hell the galaxy 1 has 2 cameras " at least for us in europe and asia "
the only 2 phones that are close to SGS2 but " dont beat " the SGS2 in terms of performance is the Atrix and Optimus 2x.

I had the Arc, don't have my Galaxy S2 yet, so I can't compare, so take my words with a grain of salt:
The Arc is a very nice looking phone, with a great screen, and it was running very smooth out of the box. But the ROM size was a joke, RAM could have been bigger for a high-end phone released in 2011, and the position of the headphone jack and the camera/lock keys were extremely annoying.
I love the design, but I don't like the form-over-function approach. Furthermore, I didn't find a single unit (not the two I had, not on any picture on the net), that didn't have a raised upper left corner of the screen, what was visible to me even when looking from the front.
It's by no means a bad phone, but the S2 offers much more on paper, and it's the price is only a little higher where I live.
I'll keep an eye on Sony's Dual-Core phones (they'll come sooner or later) though. And as far as I know, Sony even produces AMOLEDs, it would be nice if they'd use it for their phones.

You'll get dual core phones from Sony Ericsson when everyone else have started to produce quad core devices.

gupta.anurag08 said:
Hi guys,
Currently m using aRc, can u help me to know the pros n cons of SGS2..
I am planning to buy one!!
Thanks in advance.
sent from Xperia Arc
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I used both and sold S II. The main reasons I sold S II:
1. AMOLED colors are not for me. Looks too fake/retro.
2. Felt too wide. With screens over 4" it's already a pain to reach to the top of the screen. With the width, it's tough on thumb for my medium size hands.
3. Hated Samsung color selection on UI. Or, it could be I liked SE more classy interface.
4. Phone design has no style and looks like a copycat of iPhone.
Good things about SG II
1. In my two days of use SG II seems to perform buttery smooth while Arc starts to lag once you start to install some apps and widgets. Could be related to these apps.
2. Phone ugly and cheap but it atleast feels solid unlike Arc whose battery cover squeaks somewhere in the middle. I had to put a small folded tape in there to fill the gap inside to stop the squeaky feel. What's funny is most of the SE phones always had problems with battery covers :-(
3. Front camera + all the killer specs
Why I kept Arc?
1. Screen colors
2. Gorgeous style (Misty Silver) and phone feels more ergonomic in my hand
3. Almost everyone I showed pick Arc over Samsung. Of course, once I told the specs, SG II started to get selected.
4. I like SE UI. Dialer looks absolutely stunning compared to any other dialer I saw. I wish it had smart dialing feature.
You should seriously give S II a try if you think you can easily sell it. I was fortunate to make over $60 profit on it after using it for couple of days as it's not available easily to buy. If you are happy with the S II design and AMOLED colors, it's an easy choice to make. SE flunked big time with the specs on Arc. It almost feels like X10 came in a different package and Gingerbread.

Intratech said:
You'll get dual core phones from Sony Ericsson when everyone else have started to produce quad core devices.
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Or if they come up with specs similar to others, they will come out with old OS

kitsVA said:
I used both and sold S II. The main reasons I sold S II:
1. AMOLED colors are not for me. Looks too fake/retro.
2. Felt too wide. With screens over 4" it's already a pain to reach to the top of the screen. With the width, it's tough on thumb for my medium size hands.
3. Hated Samsung color selection on UI. Or, it could be I liked SE more classy interface.
4. Phone design has no style and looks like a copycat of iPhone.
Good things about SG II
1. In my two days of use SG II seems to perform buttery smooth while Arc starts to lag once you start to install some apps and widgets. Could be related to these apps.
2. Phone ugly and cheap but it atleast feels solid unlike Arc whose battery cover squeaks somewhere in the middle. I had to put a small folded tape in there to fill the gap inside to stop the squeaky feel. What's funny is most of the SE phones always had problems with battery covers :-(
3. Front camera + all the killer specs
Why I kept Arc?
1. Screen colors
2. Gorgeous style (Misty Silver) and phone feels more ergonomic in my hand
3. Almost everyone I showed pick Arc over Samsung. Of course, once I told the specs, SG II started to get selected.
4. I like SE UI. Dialer looks absolutely stunning compared to any other dialer I saw. I wish it had smart dialing feature.
You should seriously give S II a try if you think you can easily sell it. I was fortunate to make over $60 profit on it after using it for couple of days as it's not available easily to buy. If you are happy with the S II design and AMOLED colors, it's an easy choice to make. SE flunked big time with the specs on Arc. It almost feels like X10 came in a different package and Gingerbread.
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to each has his own. as hardware design. i like the Arc. and so i did like the xperia. sony has a style in everything they do. thats sony. their user interface is always sleek and high class. i dare to put them in the same level as apple if not higher.
but thats as far as it goes. everything else fall apart. specs wise. the arc is really old generarion. its same level as galaxy 1. and we passed that since the beginning of new year when dual core started showing up . there is no excuse to what sony is doing. they are 6 months late at LEAST in terms of technology. they are not keeping up with other companies.
HTC dual core within this month or next.
LG already out with new core. first in the market
Motorolla since Feb .
Samsung since May with 1.2 dual core.
Apple with Ipad 2.
what are they exactly waiting for. i am not going to get fooled again and buy a device based on its look like how i did with the xperia x10. one is enough. as long as they dont keep up. iam not going to bother.
also. 4.27 is big when 4 is ok ? its .27, its pretty much nothing. plus the phone is super slim. so that makes it up.
and you dont like the colors of SG2 when everyone praised it ? hell ok. even if you didnt. you could have picked the option " Movie " in the backlight option and you would get narutal colors.
again. i am not judgnig you. i just find it odd that you sell the best phone in the market and keeping and old tech one. unless there is another reason like money etc.

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and you dont like the colors of SG2 when everyone praised it ? hell ok. even if you didnt. you could have picked the option " Movie " in the backlight option and you would get narutal colors.
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That's the mode I used mostly as the colors look way too over saturated in the other two modes. But, like you said, "to each his own". I guess that is why there are so many phones. I happen to prefer Arc screen, style, and UI more than GSII.

All, thanks for ur comments..
To be very frank I never like samsumg phones. I knew that SG2 is just around the corner but still I gonne for aRc..
Arc has got class, it has best UI (other phones UI almost looks same n ugly)
I am Ok with single core atleast for a year, the only annoying thing is INTERNAL MEMORY...
I just wanted to buy one more phone, and from all comments recieved so far, i think I can give a try to SG2
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gupta.anurag08 said:
All, thanks for ur comments..
To be very frank I never like samsumg phones. I knew that SG2 is just around the corner but still I gonne for aRc..
Arc has got class, it has best UI (other phones UI almost looks same n ugly)
I am Ok with single core atleast for a year, the only annoying thing is INTERNAL MEMORY...
I just wanted to buy one more phone, and from all comments recieved so far, i think I can give a try to SG2
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Update us in Arc forum after you try SG2. I see SG2 as a Vegas Buffet. Arc as a fine dinner .

All, thanks for ur comments..
To be very frank I never like samsumg phones. I knew that SG2 is just around the corner but still I gonne for aRc..
Arc has got class, it has best UI (other phones UI almost looks same n ugly)
I am Ok with single core atleast for a year, the only annoying thing is INTERNAL MEMORY...
I just wanted to buy one more phone, and from all comments recieved so far, i think I can give a try to SG2
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Update us in Arc forum after you try SG2. I see SG2 as a Vegas Buffet. Arc as a fine dinner .
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Haha, sure..thats y I started this thread in SG2 forum to have an unbiased opinion
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Can't believe nobody's mentioned it here, but I originally chose the Arc for the camera and design. Come to find out the camera was a lot of hype and the design was pretty much ruined by the fact that it felt plasticky and I constantly had to clean it from finger prints.
Finally got fed up when the creaking back component showed up on mine. But the fingerprint issue is just awful on the Arc. Can't speak for the SGSII as I haven't got mine yet, but I returned the Arc within a week.

Quist said:
Can't believe nobody's mentioned it here, but I originally chose the Arc for the camera and design. Come to find out the camera was a lot of hype and the design was pretty much ruined by the fact that it felt plasticky and I constantly had to clean it from finger prints.
Finally got fed up when the creaking back component showed up on mine. But the fingerprint issue is just awful on the Arc. Can't speak for the SGSII as I haven't got mine yet, but I returned the Arc within a week.
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I was not going to bring up the creaking and weird way it felt in the hands just so that we can come back and read the complaints when people buy it. I don't or did own an Arc but one of my friends did, went through 3 of them in fact. They all creaked and the battery cover was weird so he eventually give up and got a refund.

Hardware optimization.

Why does everyone give HTC so much credit for not challenging themselves? They make a midgrade product and optimize it while their users thumb their noses at a company that may make a product that is overly ready for the software that's out. Should it be Samsung's fault for raising the bar or Google's fault for not meeting them? Should Samsung start lowering their standard so they can meet market demand for more updates? I find there are a bunch of conflicting business models here.

Software compatibility and hardware aren't always the same. We bought the epic [those of us who know our ass from our hands] bc it had the right hardware to stand the test of time which in the cell phone world means at least 2 years. Its all that can be expected. The rest is hope....
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qhd display, dual 1.2 ghz cpu and 1gig of ram is not good enough?
did samsung push themselves when they made the transform?
how about the continuum?
What about the infuse and charge?
Samsung vibrant 4G
how about the nexus S?
I thought this was suppose to be the showcase of what phones are to become but samsung dropped the ball on this one. It is nothing more then a downgraded epic! It should of at least had the 4.3" super AMOLED plus screen and have a dual core processor. Then googled might of optimized their future software on samsung specs which would of made more manufacture buy more samsung components.
No notification LED no SD card slot and you in love with samsung?
The only galaxy series phone that had everything was the epic. It had the best feel of quality, there other ones do feel cheap. It has flash, it has a front camera and it has a keyboard which I wish sprint had one without. Let just say sprint did great because I wouldn't of brought this if it didn't have a LED flash or front facing camera. Keyboard was just extra cheese on my cheese pizza.
I brought the epic because it had the best hardware during that time, now i would buy the evo3d because it would have the best hardware if i had to get a phone now.
an optimized 4 cylinder engine is better then a sloppy 6 cylinder. And this is what the epic feels like with the GPS, compass and keyboard issue, a sloppy 6 cylinder engine. It is minor problems and can be fixed through software updates, its too bad samsung doesn't even think twice about products that has already been released.
Samsung should be building towards google future design. If samsung wanted google to design to their future proof hardware they should of designed a better nexus S.
The only company out there that should be praised for pushing the standard is Apple. That is tough for me to say but it is true. No company has gotten to apple's feel of quality (not to be confused with build quality), samsung next gen phone is still a bit thicker then apple's even with the OLED display and the next gen resolution display are still below apple's current resolutions.

pkny said:
qhd display, dual 1.2 ghz cpu and 1gig of ram is not good enough?
did samsung push themselves when they made the transform?
how about the continuum?
What about the infuse and charge?
Samsung vibrant 4G
how about the nexus S?
I thought this was suppose to be the showcase of what phones are to become but samsung dropped the ball on this one. It is nothing more then a downgraded epic! It should of at least had the 4.3" super AMOLED plus screen and have a dual core processor. Then googled might of optimized their future software on samsung specs which would of made more manufacture buy more samsung components.
No notification LED no SD card slot and you in love with samsung?
The only galaxy series phone that had everything was the epic. It had the best feel of quality, there other ones do feel cheap. It has flash, it has a front camera and it has a keyboard which I wish sprint had one without. Let just say sprint did great because I wouldn't of brought this if it didn't have a LED flash or front facing camera. Keyboard was just extra cheese on my cheese pizza.
I brought the epic because it had the best hardware during that time, now i would buy the evo3d because it would have the best hardware if i had to get a phone now.
an optimized 4 cylinder engine is better then a sloppy 6 cylinder. And this is what the epic feels like with the GPS, compass and keyboard issue, a sloppy 6 cylinder engine. It is minor problems and can be fixed through software updates, its too bad samsung doesn't even think twice about products that has already been released.
Samsung should be building towards google future design. If samsung wanted google to design to their future proof hardware they should of designed a better nexus S.
The only company out there that should be praised for pushing the standard is Apple. That is tough for me to say but it is true. No company has gotten to apple's feel of quality (not to be confused with build quality), samsung next gen phone is still a bit thicker then apple's even with the OLED display and the next gen resolution display are still below apple's current resolutions.
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Really? Because gingerbread was optimized for the hummingbird chip. And you seem to forget the nexus was debuted some months ago, not recently. And that the original evo had a much outdated snapdragon and a camera that couldn't stand up to ours even with more megapixels.
And you also seem to ignore the fact that there are some evo 3d's shipping with crooked screens.
CROOKED SCREENS
Yeh, that's reaaallll good quality right there.
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pkny said:
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The only company out there that should be praised for pushing the standard is Apple. That is tough for me to say but it is true. No company has gotten to apple's feel of quality (not to be confused with build quality), samsung next gen phone is still a bit thicker then apple's even with the OLED display and the next gen resolution display are still below apple's current resolutions.
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Just to point out, the Galaxy S II is actually thinner than the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 is 9.3mm thick and the Galaxy S II is 8.49mm thick.. Now if you are talking about the bottom where the speaker is then you'd be right.

pkny said:
qhd display, dual 1.2 ghz cpu and 1gig of ram is not good enough?
did samsung push themselves when they made the transform?
how about the continuum?
What about the infuse and charge?
Samsung vibrant 4G
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um..the only devices that samsung themselves releases are the international ones..the customized ones you see in the states are at the request of carriers..
how about the nexus S?
I thought this was suppose to be the showcase of what phones are to become but samsung dropped the ball on this one. It is nothing more then a downgraded epic! It should of at least had the 4.3" super AMOLED plus screen and have a dual core processor. Then googled might of optimized their future software on samsung specs which would of made more manufacture buy more samsung components.
No notification LED no SD card slot and you in love with samsung?
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Again..all this was at Google's request..the point of the Nexus S project also includes giving every member of the alliance a chance to make hardware and every single cpu vendor have an os optimized for their cpus..one of the biggest goal of gingerbread was to make the optimization for the hummingbird processor.
The only galaxy series phone that had everything was the epic. It had the best feel of quality, there other ones do feel cheap. It has flash, it has a front camera and it has a keyboard which I wish sprint had one without. Let just say sprint did great because I wouldn't of brought this if it didn't have a LED flash or front facing camera. Keyboard was just extra cheese on my cheese pizza.
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All credit here goes to sprint actually for requesting it like that..not samsung...front facing camera is only thing that was in the original design.
I brought the epic because it had the best hardware during that time, now i would buy the evo3d because it would have the best hardware if i had to get a phone now.
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SGS2 has been out for a while..the international one works on AT&T bands too lol..so cant exactly say evo3d is best..maybe on sprint..
an optimized 4 cylinder engine is better then a sloppy 6 cylinder. And this is what the epic feels like with the GPS, compass and keyboard issue, a sloppy 6 cylinder engine. It is minor problems and can be fixed through software updates, its too bad samsung doesn't even think twice about products that has already been released.
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They are trying with the GPS last Ive seen..and I assure you grass is not greener on the other side..every manufacturer has some sort of issues..thats just how hardware is..
Samsung should be building towards google future design. If samsung wanted google to design to their future proof hardware they should of designed a better nexus S.
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Again, not the point of the Nexus S..the only standards Nexus S was meant to set was the NFC chip and attempt at curved display. All else is cpu optimization and the rest..it was not meant to set the bar for raw power.
The only company out there that should be praised for pushing the standard is Apple. That is tough for me to say but it is true. No company has gotten to apple's feel of quality (not to be confused with build quality), samsung next gen phone is still a bit thicker then apple's even with the OLED display and the next gen resolution display are still below apple's current resolutions.
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um...you just criticized samsung for not having of, notification leds and sd card...but apple doing it is ok? and in terms of specs and release dates SGS has better hardware then iphone 4...
And as stated sgs 2 is thinner..
See its not that apple sets a standard..its more so that Apple makes people believe that something is that way regardless of whether it is or not..
Psychology is very important and you will notice that 2 things can be viewed completely different based on it...

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Really? Because gingerbread was optimized for the hummingbird chip. And you seem to forget the nexus was debuted some months ago, not recently. And that the original evo had a much outdated snapdragon and a camera that couldn't stand up to ours even with more megapixels.
And you also seem to ignore the fact that there are some evo 3d's shipping with crooked screens.
CROOKED SCREENS
Yeh, that's reaaallll good quality right there.
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And i guess from the love from samsung that you read somewhere in my rant that the evo 3d had a better build quality? Please quote where i even stated that or even assumed it. So from this statement I did not have to state the crooked screen since i never said they were better or worse then samsung's quality in design.
The nexus S came out during the 1st Quarter of this year. They could of easily used the infuse or the charges hardware for the nexus S design or even delayed it for a month if they needed too. Why be like HTC and put in a outdated cpu?
Why are you arguing the fact that HTC did it and they are evil but samsung did it and they are ok. Nexus S should be the phone showing off the companies quality. There is a big reason why most of us stayed with our Epics even though we do not need the keyboard and would love to have a keyboardless epic.
Why are you ignoring that fact about that samsung also makes.
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Just to point out, the Galaxy S II is actually thinner than the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 is 9.3mm thick and the Galaxy S II is 8.49mm thick.. Now if you are talking about the bottom where the speaker is then you'd be right.
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I haven't seen the 8.49mm depth before. Most sites are stating 9.9mm. Thanks for the clarification. This is the only phone i am looking forward too now. I just wish it had a higher resolution.

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I won't argue with you because I know that i would loose no matter how the planets align .
You right about every manufacture having hardware issues. This is the main reason I have 5 evos and 1 epic on my sprint account. The bad taste of the touch pro 2 still lingers. I just don't understand why people are knocking on the evo 3d when it is really considered a good phone and on top of that, its on sprint. Were all team sprint aren't we?
I do have to argue about apple setting the standard though. It took phone companies over a year to become as thin has apples phones. Samsung should of been thinner to begin with the nature of OLED screens being thinner.
Well i own 2 lots Apple stock so i might have to keep saying this until i sell it.

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I haven't seen the 8.49mm depth before. Most sites are stating 9.9mm. Thanks for the clarification. This is the only phone i am looking forward too now. I just wish it had a higher resolution.
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9.9mm is the size of the original sgs aka i9000, vibrant etc...SGS 2 is thinner..
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I won't argue with you because I know that i would loose no matter how the planets align .
You right about every manufacture having hardware issues. This is the main reason I have 5 evos and 1 epic on my sprint account. The bad taste of the touch pro 2 still lingers. I just don't understand why people are knocking on the evo 3d when it is really considered a good phone and on top of that, its on sprint. Were all team sprint aren't we?
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People are knocking it because they expected the Evo 3d to blow people away.when the original Evo came out there really was not much of a competitive market and people chose purely HTC...with that the Evo was the best specced HTC phone..this time around things are A LOT more competitive, you have LG, Motorola, Samsung and other players enter the market with products just as good if not better..
Also a lot of competition in the 4G sector makes wimax not very competitive..(sprint needs to go wimax enhanced already >.>)
I do have to argue about apple setting the standard though. It took phone companies over a year to become as thin has apples phones. Samsung should of been thinner to begin with the nature of OLED screens being thinner.
Well i own 2 lots Apple stock so i might have to keep saying this until i sell it.
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its kinda playing a catchup game sgs 2 will be thinner then my guess iphone 5 will be thinner then sgs 3 will be thinner...get it? there are more factors though that go into this then just the screen..for one that thinness could have been done if they took out the sd card port..but would we want that? Apple had to do sacrifices on the Antenna to accomplish that thinness at the time..so whether it was worth it or not is another story..at what point do we go.."this is thin enough" lol
btw apple actually increased thickness on white iphone 4...

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btw apple actually increased thickness on white iphone 4...
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No, they didn't. that was a fallacy. White and black iPhones have been measured side by side with micrometers on several sites disproving this.

[Comparison] HTC One vs Samsung Galaxy S4

This looks like one of the hot comparisions out there right now. Many of you are probably wondering if you should get the One or S4. I was in the same boat as some of you guys before buying the HTC One. I had been using a nexus 4 which felt fast and good in hand, but after breaking the screen and getting quoted $250 to fix it, i decided to buy a new one. I didn't even look at any phones other than the HTC One, Galaxy S4 and XPeria Z. I removed the XPeria Z from my list after hearing that the snapdragon s4 feels laggy on the 1080p screen and the screen is a little washed out compared to the other two. It was really hard to choose from the remaining two, but here are things that i thought were pros and cons of both phones:
Galaxy S4 Pros:
- Has SD Slot
- Has Removable Battery
- Processor is clocked 200MHz higher at 1.9GHz (Doesn't make much difference)
- AirView is pretty cool and would be pretty useful if more apps implemented (I don't think the API is open though)
- Faster unofficial updates since Google announced they would be providing updates for the stock version of GS4 which means the roms can be ported faster.
Galaxy S4 Cons:
- Doesn't have a premium feel with plastic polycarbonate body (the phone's plastic felt like the plastic used on my motorcycle's helmet)
- Has too many gimicky features that just take up space but you can never use (the eye tracking features are useless at night or where there is no perfect lighting, Air gestures are not practical for most people.)
- Only 16GB of internal storage (at the moment), and only about 10 GB is free for users to use, which means you cannot download apps that are more than that on size. Almost all big games on the android market are at least 1GB and can go up to 3, and if you install like 5 or 6 of them, you will be pretty close to running out of storage for apps.
- When i held the device on my hand, it felt slimey (its kind of hard to explain) as if it was dipped in some kind of oil.
- Phone speaker is tiny. I don't listen to music through the speakers, but while trying my friends GS4's speakerphone to call while driving, i felt like the volume was little too low.
- TouchWiz is really cluttered. I checked how many apps that i didn't need were installed by default, and there were more than 20 apps that i would never use.
- Periodic Jitters. The phone seemed to freeze up for a quarter of second randomly while using the phone. And sometimes the UI would totally skip animations. These aren't big things, but they make the user experience feel less fun.
HTC One Pros:
- Smooth aluminum finish definitely makes the device feel premium in hand and gives overall better hand feeling.
- Ultrapixel camera works great at low light conditions.
- The infrared blaster merged into the power button just makes the device look less cluttered.
- The PPI is the higest out of anything i have ever used. The display is so sharp that it looks like you are looking at a printed photo when you are looking at the picture on the phone.
- HTC Sense 5 is great. I was always an aosp fan, but they have optmised sense so much that i like sense better than stock now.
- Boomsound speakers are great. I never thought i would be using speakers to watch videos on my phone, but the boom sound speakers are so loud and clear that i like using them over my $200+ headphones while watching movies and videos. The speakers are something that you will not notice how good they are unless you actually use them. Head down to a Sprint or Tmobile or ATT store and try it out.
- Beats Audio sounded like a gimmick at first, but it surprisingly works really well. Some songs sound so much better with beats turned on.
- It has a built in amp for the speakers, which helps the speakers perform really good.
- It is iPhone smooth. No matter what you guys say, i had never used an android phone that could match iphone's smoothness before using the htc one. The galaxy s4 is smooth, but the one feels a lot more smoother than the s4 when using side by side.
- Call Quality seemed much much better than S4 on my tests.
HTC One Cons:
- No Removable Battery. This definitely sucks.
- No SD Slot.
- Still uses 4.1.2 instead of latest version.
- Only 4 MP camera. Way more than enough on daily use, but if you want to print a photo in really large size, you might want to look for a real camera.
- It's almost impossible to repair.
Well these were pros and cons from my tests. I ended up buying the HTC one after a long research. Here are some deciding factors and solutions for HTC one's cons that made me get the HTC:
- The One came with 32 GB which was enough for me. And since i have good network and unlimited data with tmobile, i could always use cloud storage if i needed more.
- The One supports USB OTG like the S4 which means after buying a $1 cable from ebay, i could just plug in my USB flash drive and watch movies and other things from there. This would save me internal space, and i could always use the usb if i wanted to watch a movie. This would compensate the non removable storage in the HTC One.
- The non removable battery in the HTC One sucks, but according to a lot of reviews it would last for a day with moderate use which was good enough for me.
- The non removable battery problems could be solved by portable chargers.
- Even though the battery is non replaceable in the HTC One, i don't think i will need to replace it for at least 2 years, and i wont be using this phone for more than 2 years. The battery is rated for charging cycles of 1000 times. This means even if you charge and discharge your phone completely 3 times in two days (which we don't normally do), the phone would easily last 2 years. And the 1000 times rating is the minimum rating, the battery could last even longer.
- The One has much more premium feel in hand compared to the S4. If you hold both in hands at the same time, you can totally feel the difference.
- Samsung's 16GB internal storage feels like too low for apps. Since you can only use 10GB out of the 16, i feel like i am going to run out of internal storage pretty quick.'
- The Audio quality from headphone port as well as the speakers is much better than the S4. I tried both side by side and One was far better in terms or audio quality.
- The display in HTC One seemed better than the S4 probably because of the higher PPI or samsung's use of pentile display tech. You wouldn't notice this if you were just using one of the phones, but if you had both phones side by side, the difference was noticable.
- The display on the HTC One works much better on sunlight compared to the Galaxy s4's OLED display. The difference is pretty big.
- I noticed that most pictures that i took with my phone were in low light situations. HTC One was much better in low light, even when the Galaxy S4's night mode was turned on.
- I actually liked the looks of HTC's sense compared to Touchwiz. Touchwiz just feels cartoonish compared to Sense.
Let me know if there are any pros or cons or any of the phones that i missed to mention above.
P.S. I am pretty biased towards the HTC one on the last part (deciding factors) since those were the reasons i got one instead of other. But i've tried to be as fair as possible on the pros and cons.
Update: Check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41502507&postcount=27

Thanks for the info. I thought Verizon did me a favor and gave me one decision with the s4. Looks like there going to release it and I will have a decision. I've read all the pros and cons and you really have to hold the devices side by side and I did that yesterday for the first time.
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Fstall303 said:
Thanks for the info. I thought Verizon did me a favor and gave me one decision with the s4. Looks like there going to release it and I will have a decision. I've read all the pros and cons and you really have to hold the devices side by side and I did that yesterday for the first time.
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Honestly, both phones are pretty similar in terms of performance specs. But its the tiny little things that make a big difference. Try both phones and don't make your decision based on the fact that verizon doesn't have the one yet. Since sprint already got the CDMA version, verizon should be getting one pretty soon.

Yes, the HTC One is "feeling" good in the hand because of the aluminum. But how things works and functions is way more important than how things feels.
But that feeling comes with a big cost. Aluminum is spreading the heat way more than plastic does. And because the temprature on the HTC One is way higher than it is on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (according to NordicHardware here: http://tinyurl.com/brskpgw), then i wouldn't really say aluminum is a good thing to have on a phone when a phone gets that hot.
And good luck holding that phone under heavy usage, because you know, over 57 degrees celcius and aluminum is NOT gonna fell good in the hand at all.
You should write this down as a cons / negative side for the HTC One.

Tom-Helge said:
Yes, the HTC One is "feeling" good in the hand because of the aluminum. But how things works and functions is way more important than how things feels.
But that feeling comes with a big cost. Aluminum is spreading the heat way more than plastic does. And because the temprature on the HTC One is way higher than it is on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (according to NordicHardware here: http://tinyurl.com/brskpgw), then i wouldn't really say aluminum is a good thing to have on a phone when a phone gets that hot.
And good luck holding that phone under heavy usage, because you know, over 57 deagrees celcius and aluminum is NOT gonna fell good in the hand at all.
You should write this down as a cons / negative side for the HTC One.
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And if you would think about what you just posted, you'd know that heat dissapation is a good thing. Both phones have more or less the same processor, so they heat up about equally. The heat you feel on metal means that the heat is getting sucked away from processor and other electronics inside, preventing them from overheating. :good:

Tom-Helge said:
Yes, the HTC One is "feeling" good in the hand because of the aluminum. But how things works and functions is way more important than how things feels.
But that feeling comes with a big cost. Aluminum is spreading the heat way more than plastic does. And because the temprature on the HTC One is way higher than it is on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (according to NordicHardware here: http://tinyurl.com/brskpgw), then i wouldn't really say aluminum is a good thing to have on a phone when a phone gets that hot.
And good luck holding that phone under heavy usage, because you know, over 57 deagrees celcius and aluminum is NOT gonna fell good in the hand at all.
You should write this down as a cons / negative side for the HTC One.
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hey mate i been using htc one for 2 month and i wanna correct you even i watching movie and playing asphalt 7 or nova or modern combat
my battery highest rate will go till 41 degree and i never feel hot or watsoever just warm if u going to ask me how the hell i check now i teach u guys and that dont know just press *#*#4636#*#* if the device battery heat higher than 48degree will be consider defected battery as what HTC service center told me.lastly im not a HTC fanboy i own samsung s3 previous and my sister own s4 now,we compare side by side and my sister said wanna sell of s4 and get HTC one no offense and peace

OP, as you can see by reading the sticky by jotha in this very section, comparison threads aren't allowed in this forum.

Tom-Helge said:
You can't see ANY differences from 441 PPI to 468 PPI with the naked eye. It's that simple. You are only imagine in your head that you actually are seeing differences. But in reality, you don't. You can't see any differences here before you gets the screens under a microscope.
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Normally I would agree with you on this...But the fact that the S4 uses a pentile display I would have to disagree! I'm sure most people can tell a difference side by side.
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gutrrob said:
Normally I would agree with you on this...But the fact that the S4 uses a pentile display I would have to disagree! I'm sure most people can tell a difference side by side.
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Maybe you should read about the new Pentile technology that are in the Galaxy S4 before you claim it's bad because of earlier pentile techologies: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm
TLDR: The Super AMOLED screen on the Galaxy S4 are as good as the iPhone 5 screen is. It says enough.

Tom-Helge said:
Maybe you should read about the new Pentile technology that are in the Galaxy S4 before you claim it's bad because of earlier pentile techologies
TLDR: The Super AMOLED screen on the Galaxy S4 are as good as the iPhone 5 screen is. It says enough.
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The HTC One has a far superior screen compared to the iPhone 5! Your comment doesn't hold any water.
Find a article where the S4 screen is just as good as the One.
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The HTC One has a far superior screen compared to the iPhone 5! Your comment doesn't hold any water.
Find a article where the S4 screen is just as good as the One.
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When it's about PPI, then yes, HTC One are better than iPhone 5. But everything is not about the PPI on a screen.
Maybe you could find the article / proof that says the HTC One's screen are better than iPhone 5 when it comes to color accuracy?
HTC One and iPhone 5 uses the same screen technology (both have RGB stripes). So the only thing we can compare between those 2 are color accuracy.
And if you then can find me the proof that HTC One is doing a better job at color accuracy than the iPhone 5, then sure, i will use the HTC One over the iPhone 5 to compare the Samsung Galaxy S4's screen with.

gutrrob said:
The HTC One has a far superior screen compared to the iPhone 5! Your comment doesn't hold any water.
Find a article where the S4 screen is just as good as the One.
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Sorry if I'll make you upset or something but IMO the iphone 5 screen is one of the best LCD's out there.
It has excellent calibration, sunlight visibility is superior to everything out there (even better than HTC one), excellent viewing angles and very high (maybe even the highest) contrast among mobile LCD displays.
Yes, the SLCD3 (of Samsung and Sony) in the HTC one is excellent but it's not perfect and the only place it's superior to the iphone 5's screen is ppi. Other than that, it's on par or inferior.
Check it yourself, and I know I'll be backed up by you and any other person who've seen the iphone 5's in person.
BTW, I still prefer the HTC one display over the iphone 5 display.

Tom-Helge said:
When it's about PPI, then yes, HTC One are better than iPhone 5. But everything is not about the PPI on a screen.
Maybe you could find the article / proof that says the HTC One's screen are better than iPhone 5 when it comes to color accuracy?
HTC One and iPhone 5 uses the same screen technology (both have RGB stripes). So the only thing we can compare between those 2 are color accuracy.
And if you then can find me the proof that HTC One is doing a better job at color accuracy than the iPhone 5, then sure, i will use the HTC One over the iPhone 5 to compare the Samsung Galaxy S4's screen with.
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Funny how you keep bringing up the iPhone 5 when were talking about the S4 vs HTC One screen!
I'm done here Troll!
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gutrrob said:
Funny how you keep bringing up the iPhone 5 when were talking about the S4 vs HTC One screen!
I'm done here Troll!
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If iphone 5's screen superior (or on par) than the HTC one's screen than we can bring comparisons (that already made) between him and the S4 instead of the s4 against HTC one which we don't have professional comparisons unless you count the GSMArena comparison (for example) which gave the s4 the winning spot in the screen part:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p3.php

sindresv said:
Tom-Helge:
Why do you come here and try to destroy a perfectly good thread? The OP was trying to help others in the same situation as he was in, and he was not blindly butchering the S4. He had many valid points both pro and cons on both devices, so I don't really see the problem.
You tell us the One's screen isn't that good compared to the S4, but yet the only phone you compare it to is the iPhone 5. I struggel to see your point as this isn't an iPhone 5 VS One thread.
And for the dark screen on the S4: when you compare phones, you have to do it in stock condition. Not everyone roots and flashes.. In fact most people don't..
I still don't get the fuzz over the battery not being able to be changed. I personally have never had the need to change a bettery, and neither have any of my friends.
I guess this thread will be closed, but I kind of liked it and found it useful
Ind just for your information: yes, the One gets a bit hot, but it's never been a problem holding it, and far from any discomfort!
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No, there's no a problem in showing the pros and cons of the devices but the list the OP listed is total biased towards the HTC one.
Almost all of the cons of the galaxy s4 and the pros of the HTC one was a matter of opinion and preference.
So yes, it's good for non-techy people to have such thread but not as biased toward the HTC one as this thread is.

Tom-Helge said:
I'm not destroying this topic. I'm correcting some points the op talked about witch isn't true.
When wasn't that allowed to do?
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The SGS4 screen was engineered with a pentigon style layout making the screen more green/blue than it should be , also making the whites more gray than it should be.
in reality the statments that you were bringing up do have some weight, but the SGS4 is a refreshed the SGS3.
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Is there any reason that the only people who think that are owners of a S4?

EclipzeRemix said:
The SGS4 screen was engineered with a pentigon style layout making the screen more green/blue than it should be , also making the whites more gray than it should be.
in reality the statments that you were bringing up do have some weight, but the SGS4 is a refreshed the SGS3.
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Have you seen the professional test of displaymate? The s4 (in movie mode) have accurate colors.
The "diamond" pentile use different sizes for each subpixel so in the end you can get accurate colors and in movie mode it actually have accurate colors as stated in displaymate tests.

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None of your points have been valid, and when you realise that, you just bring in another phone to compare it with...
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So my links that explains why the Galaxy S4 screen is that good as i say isn't any valid points?
I bring in the iPhone 5 because it have been the mainstreamphone to compare other screen on other phones to, because the iPhone 5 screen is pretty mu7ch one of the best screens out there (untilk proven wrong).

The fact that the display is perfect in some situations doesn't change the fact that it is s**t in other key functions. Not being able to use chrome is kind of a big deal for many people!
And you showed us a link telling us that the S4 display is s**t when browsing. Is that explaining how good it is?

HTC One, should I buy it now?

Hi,
I know I'm pretty late to the game since this phone launched on Feb and it's Sept already.
I just recently thought of replacing my phone and I always liked the HTC One.
However as time goes, the One specs appear to be shadowed by other competing devices. I know Snapdragon 600 is nothing to sneeze at, but I'm talking about, well a year later or so. Will it still be relevant?
I had a bad experience with my Xperia Pro, while Sony is nicely handing ICS upgrade, its hardware simply can't cope with modern, multicore and ram-hogging apps.
I'm leaning to Xperia Z1 but more-or-less turned off by its screen size. (I hate gigantic phone).
Camera is not a deciding factor.
There are rumours saying HTC going to release One+ or something, but I'm taking it with a grain of salt, most likely the Tablet One will come first.
Should I buy HTC One? Or get another more recent device? Or wait for M8?
I'm sorta long term user, will replace phone every two years if nothing is wrong with the current one.
Thanks in advance, I could really use any One's user advice.
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I got one today, and it is by no means a slouch and I can't see it becoming slow anytime soon. Maybe in 18 months time, but it's perfect at the moment. It may not get Android 5.0 when it comes out officially next year (Maybe), but the developers on XDA will surely support it.

It's still one of the best phones available, however at this point in the year, I think I would wait to see what the N5 looks like officially.
I'm already tempted by the G2.

Same question. I know you all have the HTC one but to me what's the selling point? I got a gs4 and someone wants to trade me a 32g HTC one. Besides storage, beats audio, less bloat, and build quality. why would the HTC one be better than gs4? Sell me on it
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For OP I suggest Z1,G2 if you are looking from newest devices. If i were you i would buy one of this phones. But if you don't like big phones, then One is perfect choice. It's beautiful, strong, good software and not bad camera. Main disadvantage to me is battery and log charging. I came from S4 because of lag. but overall S4 is realy nice device - good battery, very nice camera (i used it when i was on my vacation in Greece), nice screen and size.
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[email protected] said:
Same question. I know you all have the HTC one but to me what's the selling point? I got a gs4 and someone wants to trade me a 32g HTC one. Besides storage, beats audio, less bloat, and build quality. why would the HTC one be better than gs4? Sell me on it
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If you are lucky with your S4 when i don't see why you should change to One

[email protected] said:
Same question. I know you all have the HTC one but to me what's the selling point? I got a gs4 and someone wants to trade me a 32g HTC one. Besides storage, beats audio, less bloat, and build quality. why would the HTC one be better than gs4? Sell me on it
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At this point, if you are an average user, which means you use smartphone just for read/reply email&news, social networks, gaming stuff, watch one or two videos, listen to music clips, then you are fine with this phone. The major features missing from other devices are Boomsound speakers, Zoe, Blinkfeed and soon to be released Android 4.3.
The other benefit is that you can find decent price. You can trade in an old iPhone or find special offers for HTC One easily. This doesn't happen for those latest devices.
ps. It might be better to keep the comparison stuff out of this thread. Otherwise this thread might be closed soon.:highfive:

@WhizzWr
you might want to see this
http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/123671-sony-xperia-z1-review
size, weight, screen and sound quality are issues on the Z1 as well as the high density camera sensors suffers in 1:1 precision due to the tiny pixel size

Came from the MK16i to the HTC One
After updating to ICS, the lag was horrible on my Pro. I rooted and flashed many ROM's but none were good enough.
So I bought the One.
If your main concern is that the phone will become slow within a year or so, then forget it. Google itself is pushing the new Nexus 7 which has a modified S4 Pro. The S600 on the One should be as fast as that one, at the very least. And because Google itself pushes new versions of Android every year or so, the One should be fast enough until after Android 4.4 Kitkat.
Now if you are worried about developers creating apps for S800 processors, then be cool. The S800 hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy line yet at which point it will probably reach maximum market penetration.
And when you say memory hogging apps and stuff, I can only think of one case: games. All other apps like Facebook, Twitter and what not are designed to work on the maximum number of phones. Their aim is again market penetration and not faster performance. You can argue that it is a combo of both but I hope you see the point I am trying to make.
Now if you are thinking about games: fret not. The best/most demanding/a large number of games are usually made for iOS and then ported over to Android. So in this case you should probably be praying that Apple doesn't come up with better hardware than it already has. Because until this point Android phones and specifically Qualcomm has been able to reach upto or in some cases beat Cupertino's best hardware.
So relax, have fun and buy the One.
P.S: If you feel that the One is slowing down after a year or so, then again unlock -> root -> overclock.

True in regards to gaming, currently the GPU is faster than the iPhone 5 even when running at 1080p
Its pure performance lies between the iPhone 5 and 5s however when games are scaled from 720p or less they can still match the iPhone 5s (like Asphalt 8)
keeping in mind gaming on the HTC one requires root if you want to disable thermal throttling and boost CPU for accelerometer heavy 3D games and if you want to unlock it to full speed 487mhz
iPhone 5s GPU, Egypt HD offscreen 1080p: 56fps
HTC One GPU 487mhz 4.3, 3.17 firmware, Egypt HD offscreen 1080p: 48fps
iPhone 5 GPU, Egypt HD offscreen 1080p: 29.7fps

Everyone, lot of thanks for your opinion, I'd expected some bias since this is HTC One forum, but I think a lot of your answers are quite impartial. :victory:
@I Am Marino @pokosik
One thing I liked of HTC is its physical design: the dimension, colour tone and material.
Nexus devices are great, but I'm not really into Google's plain design, that's about the same with Samsung and LG. Those phones are definitely not bad, but if I can choose HTC One, I'll choose HTC One, if design aspect is the only single consideration.
I think I'm going to emphasize on the hardware durability and future-proof-ness aspect.
what are you guys thinking? (e.g @Liam0102 said One won't slow anytime soon, perhaps in 18 months).
@hamdir thanks for the review. I have read it. Z1 has some quirks, but they are relatively minor compared to its form-factor.
Big screen is nice. A lot of things like watching movie is better of bigger screen, but my problem lies within holding and handling a large phone. 5 inch phones feels and looks awkward when I hold it. Perhaps it's just a matter of getting used to it, but holding those 5 incher feels strangely like being an attention seeker shouting "here look at my phone" I'm not sure but I think it's also gonna be easier for those prying eyes LOL.
Yet another runours there going to be Z1 mini.. will definitely look at it.
IMHO Z1's slab glass design is classy, but i'll choose One anodized aluminium any day of the week.
I'm still open to any suggestion.
Cheers! :victory:

Which one do you guys prefer HTC one or galaxy s4?
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Switched from the s4 to HTC one yesterday.loving it so far. don't miss any of the touchwiz gimmicks from the s4, had rooted and gone with pacman Rom anyway.
Loving the build quality of the one.
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@WhizzWr
Well the HTC One is not that small either but certainly lighter and more pocketable than the Z1
but there is one factor you are forgetting here
both the speakers, earphones and sound recording quality on the HTC One are still unmatched, out of this world even
if you ask me its worth the asking price itself, equally if you like shooting photos of your friends and family HTC Zoe, low light and video highlights are gold
as for durability the HTC One is a sealed single piece design, also the metal is a little slippery, a cover like the official double flip cover or at least a transparent slim cover is a must, it also prevents you from feeling the heat during heavy use since the HTC One body is design as heatsink for the CPU, it can heat but it quickly gets of rid of it as well

Hmm, thx guys, maybe I'll switch
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Don't forget there's the Z1 Mini! There are images rolling around with it next to the Z1. Rumored to have the same specs just with a smaller, iphone sized screen.
IMO I'd wait until after 4.3 if getting this phone. You may end up with one of the purple low light cameras. The final 4.3 release is supposed to fix it apparently.

getbacktosrinu said:
After updating to ICS, the lag was horrible on my Pro. I rooted and flashed many ROM's but none were good enough.
So I bought the One.
If your main concern is that the phone will become slow within a year or so, then forget it. Google itself is pushing the new Nexus 7 which has a modified S4 Pro. The S600 on the One should be as fast as that one, at the very least. And because Google itself pushes new versions of Android every year or so, the One should be fast enough until after Android 4.4 Kitkat.
Now if you are worried about developers creating apps for S800 processors, then be cool. The S800 hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy line yet at which point it will probably reach maximum market penetration.
And when you say memory hogging apps and stuff, I can only think of one case: games. All other apps like Facebook, Twitter and what not are designed to work on the maximum number of phones. Their aim is again market penetration and not faster performance. You can argue that it is a combo of both but I hope you see the point I am trying to make.
Now if you are thinking about games: fret not. The best/most demanding/a large number of games are usually made for iOS and then ported over to Android. So in this case you should probably be praying that Apple doesn't come up with better hardware than it already has. Because until this point Android phones and specifically Qualcomm has been able to reach upto or in some cases beat Cupertino's best hardware.
So relax, have fun and buy the One.
P.S: If you feel that the One is slowing down after a year or so, then again unlock -> root -> overclock.
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Aha! an ex-PRO user! you must also understand my lagging agony
...and your answer happens to be about the exact answer I'm looking for! :highfive:
The iOS port comment is especially insightful, I never thought of that! Thanks! that's a lot of explanation.
Additionally, While I'm a casual gamer, I'm a heavy multi-tasker (e.g switching a decent amount of apps, opening *a lot* of browser tabs, a little high on widget usage also).
Do any of you think One going to slow down in a year for that usage scenario??

hamdir said:
@WhizzWr
Well the HTC One is not that small either but certainly lighter and more pocketable than the Z1
but there is one factor you are forgetting here
both the speakers, earphones and sound recording quality on the HTC One are still unmatched, out of this world even
if you ask me its worth the asking price itself, equally if you like shooting photos of your friends and family HTC Zoe, low light and video highlights are gold
as for durability the HTC One is a sealed single piece design, also the metal is a little slippery, a cover like the official double flip cover or at least a transparent slim cover is a must, it also prevents you from feeling the heat during heavy use since the HTC One body is design as heatsink for the CPU, it can heat but it quickly gets of rid of it as well
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Indeed, 5inch vs 4.7inch isn't that far apart. You are spot on, pocketable is the keyword. I'm actually more a 4-incher guy, but One design is rather efficient in terms of space usage (no extra gaps, etc), thanks to it's unibody build.
Sound quality is a big plus, will note that.
I don't take photo a lot. Any decent camera will do.
Again I appreciate everyone who has give their share of opinion.

Thread closed,
Phone comparison threads are not allowed. Which this has turned into.