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I know there are already a lot of discussions on battery drain and believe me, I have read every single one of them. However, I think mine is slightly different:
When fully charged and using WIFI for 10 minutes, 10% of juice will be used. Listening to MP3 for 1 hour will also use another 10%. Overall, battery life is really bad but the key is it only happened suddenly. It have been very good up till now.
I have tested this on another battery and have exactly the same results so it is not battery related. I have also hard reset the phone and tested the battery with nothing installed and it still drains. A full charge only lasts me like 4 hour of very light use.
I installed Battlog and the power consumption is around 90 which I think is pretty low, but at times, even with this low consumption, I can see the battery usage literally falling before my eyes, like 5 % in 5 minutes.
I have also tried the HTC battery test, i.e. fully charged the battery, turned on plane mode and full brightness. After one hour, it only used 8% which I thought is normal. However, if I start using the phone by just simply clicking around, it will start dropping.
I believe the phone is fine on standby but once it starts doing things, even simple operations like moving around folders, it starts consuming a lot of power.
This all happens after an overnight charging episode when I noticed that the light stays amber in the morning and the percentage stays at 80%. I soft reset the phone and it immediately show 100%. This has never happen again but my battery usage is never normal since.
All in all, I think it is somehow hardware related, like the battery gauge is bad or the charging is never complete but it still shows green. It is still under warranty but I think will be very difficult to convince the service centre that there is something genuinely wrong with the phone.
P.S. Should also mentioned that I am using the stock telstra rom and have also cycled through the batteries twice before testing.
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
Fenixz said:
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
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I had actually "reset" the battery but only drain it to 5% before recharging as I have read that it is not safe to drain to 0%. I'll try to completely drain it tonight and recharge. Will report back.
btw, I noticed that when the battery is charged to 100%, the led stays amber for about 15-20 minutes before turning green. Is this normal or should it turn green immediately after reaching 100%?
Tried completely draining the battery and charge overnight but have no effect. The problem persists. So this is definitely not a battery problem.
I guess the last thing I can try is charging the battery with a standalone charger or another HD to see if there is problem with the charging mechanism in my phone.
The latest Telstra rom seems a bit better on battery
led amber
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
aidinali said:
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
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aidinali, can you please explain what you mean? I thought the led will go off if you unplugged the charger. My problem is that after reaching 100% as indicated on the phone, the led stays amber for another 15 minutes before turning green.
Well , I'll correct & explain more....
1-when you reach %100 ,the led will turn to green immediately (if you’r phone is plugged in).
2-if you unplug ,the led will turn off (as you said ).
The problem is that since the battery meter in HD has not been defined by percentage , it doesn't match with
Apps like battery level or battlog .so when you see %100 on them , it' s not "real % 100 ".
I believe there is something wrong with the phone as the percentage usage and charging status do not match. However, since the basic HTC software does not have any battery usage in percentage, it’s hard to convince the service centre that something is wrong.
Any software that shows the battery as a percentage all have the same reading, so I assume they all rely on the mainboard for that information. There is obviously something wrong with either the charging process of the phone or draining more battery than it needs during usage.
I have 100% exactly the same problem as in the original post.
Does anyone else?
I have also tried 2 batteries and had exactly the same results with both, so I also know it is not the battery. The only app I have installed other than Dutty's 6.5 rom is Tomtom which does not need to be run for any of these issues to occur.
Any chance on warranty? I think it's software...
Try a different ROM. I've been having the same problem. I just flashed a new ROM about an hour ago (partly because Dutty's 6.5 kept freezing). I'm hoping both problems will be solved now.
i've found the latest radio rom to make a big different to battery life. 1.14.25.24_radio
the previous radio rom (1.13?) did suck the juice and made battery last 2 days less than 1.14
Try charging with a different charger. Ie. connect a USB cable on your PC and charge it from there.
I've had very similar problems with the stock charger a month after i got my TouchHD, and ended up testing with my old P4350 charger and all problems went away.
I've had similar drains even witch WiFi off, no emails, exchange or 3G access...
Now i'm getting a whole day's usage and i'm left with 30-40% battery, with 2 hours average talk time
I've tried with a number of chargers.....battery still sucks.
I've just switched from Dutty's to Energy ROM, radio is 1.14
If anything...energy drains more quickly than Dutty's
It says it drawing 350mA
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
samlives said:
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
I had same problem when i flashed miri's rom, hd got warm and didn't last, it cooled down in standby, the answer to my problem was that the wifi was not set to save battery mode, once i set it to save power everything was ok
Used 8% in 24 hours
Fallen Spartan said:
Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
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Have been trying that for a month now....something seems to have suddenly worked It only used 8% of the battery in 24 hours! I live in the rainforest with no service so cellular was turned off...wifi on, but I only accessed it about 6 times......still,nothing has changed. The same conditions would leave me with a dead battery in 7 hours previously.
Time will tell if it keeps up this well.
By the way....Thanks
So basically you're saying people should drain down the battery to 1% or so and not to 0% (device dies when battery is out) to get a better battery strength?
Seems to be the general consensus. I'm still not sure if that's what made the difference for me but previously,I would put my device to standbye when I went to sleep at 10:30pm and it would be dead by 6am
I bought this Hero off eBay, and it was dodgy since the begining.
The phone had cyanogen, and was restarting itself occasionally.
So i wiped it, installed 2.1 and it got fixed, but now i have a problem with battery drainage.
Its insance, 10minutes-10% im pretty sure its not supposed to be like that. with or without wifi/3d turned on, its just riddiculous.
I borrowed battery from a friend, and that didint make any change, i installed latest update from the autoupdate in the phone and still its bad. I read somewhere here that its faulty email app that keeps on trying to sync and drains battery, how do i fix that ?
I did a full wipe, cleared cache and everything back to factory settings, with no apps installed it goes from 100% to 0% in an hour.
I downloaded 2.1 from some android forum, as i was unable to find one here (there are only links to 1.5 on the xda.wiki WHY?)
If you can point me to a proper 2.1 (or higher?) software to download that doesnt do this crazy **** i'll be happy as infant on crack.
Please help, here is my software information:
Firmware: 2.1-update1
Baseband version: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26
Kernel version: 2.6.29-063c4d24
Build number: 3.32.405.2 CL191507release-keys
Software number: 3.32.405
Browser version: WebKit 3.1
Try calibrating your battery it gave me a huge boost on my hero... went from getting 16hours day.. to about 30hours on a single charge!!
Every time you flash a new ROM you need to calibrate your battery. The battery meter in the OS (Android in this case) is generated based on the battery stats file.
Battery stats is erased when you flash a new ROM.
Easiest method of battery calibration when you're intending on flashing a ROM:
Ensure battery is fully charged according to the OS. Switch phone off, unplug charger and plug back in. Once light is green, leave charging for another 30 minutes (light goes green at approx 95% charge).
Switch on, flash ROM. Allow first boot to complete.
Shut phone off. Disconnect charger. Remove battery. Replace battery. Place on charge, light green, leave charging another 30 minutes, yadda yadda. Switch phone on, boot immediately to recovery. Wipe battery stats.
Boot phone up. Now would be a good time to install JuicePlotter. Use as normal. Do not charge, let the battery run down completely. When the phone shuts itself off, power it back on. Repeat process until it won't switch on anymore.
Remove the battery. Put the battery back. Turn the phone on. Repeat until it won't turn on anymore.
Now charge the battery on the mains to 100% while the phone is off, keep charging for 30 minutes after light goes green. Power on. Voila, fully calibrated battery.
The last part, run until completely dead and charge only needs to be done once in a while (this is calibrating the battery innards, not the battery stats)
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hah, yea thats what i accidentally figured. phone was switching off, but when i powered it back on it had 30%.. and it was like that 3 or 4 times.
I ran it down completely and now am charging it till max, we'll see what happens. at worst i'lkl start your process from the beginning thx !
I diidnt know you had to do that. i've been playing with my G1 and not even once i had to calibrate that.. maybe i should
How'd it go? Any improvement on battery life?
it diidnt help I did what you quoted step by step and its still running down the battery like crazy :/ what else can i do ? im thinking of switching to 1.5 but thats just not progressive and my friends phone is running fine on 2.1, with the same battery even.
Edit: i've installed task killer and killed all the mail checking apps.. hope that is the problem
Edit2: it didint help at all, in 5 minutes i lost 15% fcuking hell !
I just switched to 1.5 and its still happening ! I using a different battery and its just as bad... why is this happening to me
ill try second to latest radio from xda wiki.. im running out of ideas,what else can i do ?
That really wierd... its not the battery if you have tried using different ones. Its not the ROM if u have changed it.
Have you tried disabling auto-updates? and auto-checks for emails. Which email client do you have? you should find the option to "sync-never" in the app settings.
Buying it from ebay is kinda ominous though.. was it described as faulty? perhaps you could contact the seller and request a refund is all else fails?
you can try using setcpu to underclock the cpu.
i have similar situation as you. before going to bed around 11pm, it showed 50% left, turned on airplane mode, then in the morning around 6am, phone was powered off.
now it has been 2 days, still have 20% left.
Logan3D said:
I bought this Hero off eBay, and it was dodgy since the begining.
The phone had cyanogen, and was restarting itself occasionally.
So i wiped it, installed 2.1 and it got fixed, but now i have a problem with battery drainage.
Its insance, 10minutes-10% im pretty sure its not supposed to be like that. with or without wifi/3d turned on, its just riddiculous.
I borrowed battery from a friend, and that didint make any change, i installed latest update from the autoupdate in the phone and still its bad. I read somewhere here that its faulty email app that keeps on trying to sync and drains battery, how do i fix that ?
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Did you ever take into consideration that some part of the hardware might be damaged?
Devices that got water damaged, sometimes show weird symptoms as well:
- They still boot up and seem to work well from the first sight
- The battery drains very quickly
- Some of the peripherals are not working stable or not starting up anymore (e.g. wifi, bt, gps)
- Other crazy things might happen as well (e.g. random reboots, backlight flicker, etc.)
So you might have a look at the mainboard. Red stickers indicate water damage!
Regards,
scholbert
Yea but if it were damaged would it show 50% battery after restarting thinking it had reached 5% ? i dont have the tools or will to unscrew it.
i paid 100 pounds fo it, the normal price of a used hero, but the auction said "phone restarts for no reason" and they do not accept returns, so im propably screwed :I
I had an old blackberry 8300 curve, i had it in the bathroom while i was showering, got too moist, turned the detection pads red but phone seemed to work fine after i dried it out. But the battery went to crap progressively in the manner. I would charge to 100%, take it off the charger and maybe an hour it would say less than 10%, do a battery pull and it would go back up to maybe 80% and last maybr another hour and keep doing that till it would normally drain on top od the numerous reboots i would be doing until eventually it would just drain and die.
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Can dead pixels cause this ? i have like three.. but then again why would it show 50% after restarting from 5%..
the thing is its not draining the battery, just registering it wrong
Any updates on this? Any resolution?
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Any updates on this? Any resolution?
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sorry mate i have tried everything unsuccessfully and returned the phone to the seller.. dont tell me you bought it ? (london)
No, but i have a samsung galaxy tab and experience similar symtoms. It does not bother me too much, the battery life is still great. Just the percentage is off and i need to restart from time to time.
I read similar complaint from droid x forum too.
Hi all,
Basically a few days ago I updated the firmware via Kies from 2.2 to 2.2.1 on my Galaxy S. However, I instantly noticed a huge decrease in battery life - 50% gone overnight when in standby! So I factory reset the phone and had everything disabled - the phone only lost 10% in 24 hours. So I decided to try and eliminate the possible causes so first I turned on wifi and within 2 hours I have lost almost 30% of the battery life with no usage so wifi seems to be the culprit
In the wifi menu network notification is off, however, the device seems to be scanning for networks every 5-10 seconds even when connected! I had no problems like this on 2.2 where I could comfortably get 2 days usage with wifi on. Also as I would prefer wifi to be on constantly when connected I would prefer not to change the wifi sleep policy. Any suggestions would be much appreciated
Many thanks, and sorry if there's similar thread already
which version of 2.2 did you have before?
try a flash back and see what happens.
Or try to drain battery (do not charge till 1% or almost dead) then full charge it.
Always happen to me when I flash my phone to a new ROM.
Thanks for the replies. I've tried leaving the battery till it was almost drained but maybe I'll let it go completely flat and charge it see if that makes a difference?
Also trying juice defender from the market to see if that helps. Not sure if it is a problem with the firmware though been looking around and a few people seem to have had the problem with no real solution
Might have to go back to 2.2 but would prefer not to as I've noticed a big decrease in lag on 2.2.1. Also can't remember what version of 2.2 I had I'll see how the battery life goes over the next few days after trying a couple of drain/charging cycles hopefully won't have to downgrade it. Come on 2.3.2
Thanks for the replies so far
Battery Bug is Major issue with all the versions of 2.2.1, Battery life is very bad. Even the Browser is worst in 2.2.1. May be in 2.3 it will get fixed.
I have tested all the new releases of 2.2.1. I found its smooth and fast.
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... replies. I've tried leaving the battery till it was almost drained but maybe I'll let it go completely flat and charge it see if that makes a difference?
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Very very bad idea to let the battery go completly flat, it's the best way to damage it and even lose 20% of his initial capacity. Never go under 10%.
To calibrate it properly, wait 10% turn off the phone, fully charge it, restart. (do it again 3 times).
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Very very bad idea to let the battery go completly flat, it's the best way to damage it and even lose 20% of his initial capacity. Never go under 10%.
To calibrate it properly, wait 10% turn off the phone, fully charge it, restart. (do it again 3 times).
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The battery is calibrated to do this already, the charging circuit will not allow power to the device unless there is a certain amount of charge in the battery. It's there to protect the battery from this exact eventuality.
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The battery is calibrated to do this already, the charging circuit will not allow power to the device unless there is a certain amount of charge in the battery. It's there to protect the battery from this exact eventuality.
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That's how it's supposed to be in an ideal world.
I flashed original rom but my battery behavior is still like on 2.3.5 RC4. Charge to 99% and drains very fast. Did someone know how to get back it original life. I tried battery calibrators from the market and battery wipe from clockwork mod but no result
If your optimus is old it is normal that battery life will get worser and worser ... All you can do is get new battery of ebay like I did and now my battery life is normal ...
Mike
It's not old. Its younger than a year. Battery life was good and on swift it last long and charge to 100% but after last time i flashed 2.3.5 rc4 i calibrate it (to try it last longer like on other roms) and now even on stock it drains like on rc4 and not charged to 100%
Use spare parts to see is there app that drain battery.
install "batterycalibration" from market, charge to 100% and calibrate your battery for this rom
Yes i download two battery calibration programs but the problem is that it's not charging to 100% but to 99% and drains very fast after this. i'll calibrate it a few days hope to fix
yeah, that happens to most people.
unplug, use a few seconds or 1min or so and plugin and wait if its fully charged, it could be that you have to do that a few times (2-3x)
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I flashed original rom but my battery behavior is still like on 2.3.5 RC4. Charge to 99% and drains very fast.
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Your not alone on this, same thing with me.
I have ordered another battery from ebay but dont really know why all of a sudden this just began happening whilst using the same Rom which I think has something to do with it.
I use a program from Market called Android Booster to terminate running programs that start up or dont close once started, as sometimes if you use your camera, it will be still running, even if you close it up so hence battery life turns crap.
But also, if somebody phones me for 5 minutes this also nearly drains my battery, and I have everything also turned off. (WLAN, Blutooth, Data, GPS etc).
So dont know why this is suddenly heavy on the battery as it never seemed to do this when first installed.
There you have it, your not alone but think I will migrate to another or buy another phone as I think its pathetic to have to charge one's phone everyday, or twice a day if you chat to somebody for 5 minutes as it defeats the purpose.
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Yes i download two battery calibration programs but the problem is that it's not charging to 100% but to 99% and drains very fast after this. i'll calibrate it a few days hope to fix
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Try charging through the wall charger instead of through the USB port on your pc. Worked for me then, recalibrate.
Turning off 3G when not needed?
Try turning 2G Network only in Wireless and Network --> Mobile Network
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Try turning 2G Network only in Wireless and Network --> Mobile Network
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I got my brand new battery and even charged it up via Power Supply from the wall.
Have run the phone only on 2G network only box ticked and everything else turned off (and I mean nearly everything) and for whatever reason, the Battery new or old still does not last long.
Even after it charges to 99% says its charged, it discharges very fast, or if somebody phones you and you only talk for 2 minutes the battery drops to like near 30% which is pathetic.
Something is sucking the life out of the battery folks with these Rom's so can somebody exactly put the food on the table here and say, whats up?
zzsomebody said:
I got my brand new battery and even charged it up via Power Supply from the wall.
Have run the phone only on 2G network only box ticked and everything else turned off (and I mean nearly everything) and for whatever reason, the Battery new or old still does not last long.
Even after it charges to 99% says its charged, it discharges very fast, or if somebody phones you and you only talk for 2 minutes the battery drops to like near 30% which is pathetic.
Something is sucking the life out of the battery folks with these Rom's so can somebody exactly put the food on the table here and say, whats up?
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What ROM are you using? It takes some time to charge up the battery and even if it says '99%' that doesn't always mean that it is. What is the capacity of the battery? I'd say charge it for about 6 hours and see then.
Thanks Johnny,
Problem at present seems to be solved now.
Yesterday and before I had been using Mur4ik's CM7 2.0 RC4.
I then uninstalled a stack of apps that I only used every so often and now its like back to normal so I guess it must have been those apps installed.
Folks here is a big tip. Uninstall Apps to test your battery to find out which one is the Energy Hog because even if you are not using them, they seem to be running due to either bad programming of the app or a system management issue related connection between the two.
Now, I have just updated to Mur4ik's CM7 2.0 RC5 and will certainly think twice prior to installing a bunch of things for the sake of installing apps.
Cheers people~!
Hey everyone. So I bought a second hand note 4 recently and have been having battery problems.
I did a full wipe install of CM13 and the battery dropped to 0% at random times and I had to plug it in the charger for the phone to even boot as it would just restart as soon as it turned on. Anyway, i thought this is probably due to faulty battery. I purchased another one and now this one doesn't reboot at random times but seems like the phone keeps reading the battery percentage wrong, sometimes it doesn't charge over certain percent, just gets stuck at 77% or 63% or any percentage really. If I remove the battery and plug it back in, it shows a completely different percentage everytime. I have tried wiping battery stats, do a full discharge/charge, nothing seems to help. Battery drains fairly fast too, once I manage to get it to 100% it shows that expected time is like 2-3hrs if screen on. Thanks!
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Hey everyone. So I bought a second hand note 4 recently and have been having battery problems.
I did a full wipe install of CM13 and the battery dropped to 0% at random times and I had to plug it in the charger for the phone to even boot as it would just restart as soon as it turned on. Anyway, i thought this is probably due to faulty battery. I purchased another one and now this one doesn't reboot at random times but seems like the phone keeps reading the battery percentage wrong, sometimes it doesn't charge over certain percent, just gets stuck at 77% or 63% or any percentage really. If I remove the battery and plug it back in, it shows a completely different percentage everytime. I have tried wiping battery stats, do a full discharge/charge, nothing seems to help. Battery drains fairly fast too, once I manage to get it to 100% it shows that expected time is like 2-3hrs if screen on. Thanks!
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battery displaying different percentage after u remove it and put it back in is normal i have 3 note4s all do the same (up to 10 percentage change, it either increases or decreases) but the other issues like getting stuck on a certain percentage are not normal make sure u have the genuine battery and try stock rom.
yeah, i tried stock and the same thing really. such a random issue. I just noticed that battery charges once I turn the screen on and use it , so it only gets stuck on random percent only with screen off.
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yeah, i tried stock and the same thing really. such a random issue. I just noticed that battery charges once I turn the screen on and use it , so it only gets stuck on random percent only with screen off.
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U can try recalibraring the battery....
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U can try recalibraring the battery....
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yeah, i said I wiped battery stats, which is basically recalibration
once the battery is charged to 100% it also drops first 10-20% really fast and then it gets better but still I only get around 2hrs screen time
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yeah, i said I wiped battery stats, which is basically recalibration
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Oops my bad..Didn't read your whole post...
the only way to fix this replace your battery by new one
i tried all options (Format ROM - Wipe battery status - Getting back to stock ROM - Unroot - re Celebrate apps - Changing recovery-Removing battery from device for while sleeping - charge without fast charge - charge via USB)
i asked myself after that all of this headache doesn't worth 20$, i replaced the battery with new one and its working fine now
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the only way to fix this replace your battery by new one
i tried all options (Format ROM - Wipe battery status - Getting back to stock ROM - Unroot - re Celebrate apps - Changing recovery-Removing battery from device for while sleeping - charge without fast charge - charge via USB)
i asked myself after that all of this headache doesn't worth 20$, i replaced the battery with new one and its working fine now
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yeah, i replaced battery as well but it's still the same issue. old one at least charged fully but would randomly reboot on me, the new one doesn't reboot but drains extra fast and doesn't always charge fully. can't believe both batteries are faulty
I am sorry for summoning this old post but did you find any solution to your problem? I have exactly the same experience with my note 4.
Thanks!
Is there a solution for this problem?
Power down and then out-and-in same battery and my stuck-at78%... was 100% when started.
if you having problems with auto restarting.... download the app " WAKE LOCK" and put it on Partial Wake Lock setting... your restarts will be a thing of the past.