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I think I might hold off on the mytouch 4g for a couple of days until the announcement of the nexus 2. What you guys think?
source: http://androidspin.com/2010/10/25/samsung-to-announce-a-new-android-device-on-november-8th/
Idk, I guess I would wait just to see what the Nexus 2 will look like, and the specs. But I think the myTouch 4G will still be the better device.
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I think I might hold off on the mytouch 4g for a couple of days until the announcement of the nexus 2. What you guys think?
source: http://androidspin.com/2010/10/25/samsung-to-announce-a-new-android-device-on-november-8th/
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Samsung, YUCK!!! Get the HTC!!!
Dude get the MT4G, Nexus 2 isn't being announced on Nov. 8th (My birthday ). Whoever got the emails misinterpreted it. It's a Samsung Continuum.
There’s an ENORMOUS problem with this concept, the biggest of which being that it was dead wrong. Anyone who actually got the email from Samsung’s PR firm, or bothers to communicate with Samsung at all would know that the November 8th Samsung event is the launch of the Samsung Continuum. For those unaware, this device is completely Samsung, and a unique concept at that, but I will leave details out for the release.
In short guys, it’s bogus. The 8th will not yield a Nexus 2 and the Continuum will not have Gingerbread. Stay tuned though, it will still be a great party.
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Source: http://androidspin.com/2010/10/28/debunking-the-nexus-s/
I am not sure whether is i9020 nexus II or not, but i9020 passed FCC with AWS band (good for T-Mobile and Wind), so this phone will be on my purchase list.
I love mine. Would not trade for a nexus 1 but the nexus 2 may have a 1.5 Ghz processor when it launches. This time it isn't supposed to be on online exclusive either. No confirmation on that so don't hold me to it. Lol.
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i'm debating this as well. If the nexus 2 has better specs than my vibrant, I might just get that, but for now i'm leaning towards the 4g.
Even if the specs were similar, I might lean towards the upcoming Nexus phone because it will be unlocked and ready for root.
That will take half of the work and danger out of customization and I bet you will see a lot of community mods aimed at the device.
Nothing against the MyTouch, but HTC needs to offer you something in exchange for dealing with their bloatware and restrictions on the phone. Maybe some killer app or interface?
the nexus 2/S will also have the latest version of android. the mytouch will probably have to wait several months to see an upgrade.
Talk about ignorance, everyone hears Samsung as the manufacturer and automatically think the Nexus 2 is gonna suck. If it's going to be an actual Google phone, then Google will be doing the software updates and such. Damn people, stop the hate on Samsung because it's getting really annoying.
If Samsung is going to announce it, then just wait. You'll only have to wait one week, that's all. It's not like it'll be the end of the world within that time frame.
I doubt that it is the Nexus 2, Google said it isn't happening, the people are Gizmodo are like the troll on this forum; MY FRIEND IS A TMO EMPLOYEE AND HE SAYS SAMSUNG VIBRANT WON'T GET FROYO TIL NEXT YEAR. no, be patient, even then the Nexus can't have more than a first gen humming bird or a second gen snapdragon/scorpion. And if the nexus two is coming, and you want it... the event is on the 8th, return the mt4g and wait for the new device... its not really hard to do lol
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Thanks For Making my life easier. That was the exact EXCRUTIATING worry going thru my head.
That is what I will do.
Bottom line: The Nexus Two will be a great phone. Most agree HTC makes more solid (i.e. built like a brick ****house) and appealing phones (tmo employee and I agreed) phone.
But with the Nexus two being great, the best phone to date and will be for a year so they say, STILL, the Mytouch 4g is top notch until it comes out, Correct? (please validate me LOL ) And if I were to keep the Mytouch, the Nexus is not all THAT better is it
Do you know or can u find out if they will make that foolish mistake of NO Flash
Do you know why they would do that, being a Senior member on here
Again , Thank You and have a great Halloween
DKYang said:
Talk about ignorance, everyone hears Samsung as the manufacturer and automatically think the Nexus 2 is gonna suck. If it's going to be an actual Google phone, then Google will be doing the software updates and such. Damn people, stop the hate on Samsung because it's getting really annoying.
If Samsung is going to announce it, then just wait. You'll only have to wait one week, that's all. It's not like it'll be the end of the world within that time frame.
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Perfectly stated. That is exactly what I plan to do. I would have waited at least a week to get the MT4g anyway. I need to read at least 100 reviews, and see video samples, photo samples, yada, yada ...to death.
If Samsung anounces the Google Experience phone in the interim, so much the better, and I wait. Having owned the Vibrant for a month, I would love a Google Experience Samsung phone. I'm sure Google would ensure it's done right.
I read the pros and cons on Cnet and it seems like HTC's speakerphone still sucks. Meaning, it is low just like with the G1. I hope its not true, since HTC does make good hardware, but low speaker volume sucks.
I don't profess to know nearly as much as most on here...but fwiw, my friends old mytouch slide, which he had for a week before he opted for the Vibrant, ...he LOVED the music player and the volume on it and the speaker in general. The speakerphone technology itself could change that
http://www.thirdage.com/news/nexus-2-rumors-squashed-samsung_11-1-2010
GF?
Irritated to learn about the launch of the 10.1 version of the Galaxy Tab 2.
Can't we users and developers urge Samsung to release the official ICS update for our GT 10.1 instead of launching product after product with very little differences? I don't feel like buying Samsung products anymore.
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While I somewhat agree with you I think it would be a rep shame if you stooped owning their products due to the fact they are releasing alot of great, but albeit similar, products. Besides who'd want an official release when there's cyanogen. All I want off Sammy are the damn camera drivers.
Hopefully ppl will vote with their wallets but feels like Samsung are doing an Apple
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Samsung said it would release during Q1, why are people getting mad/frustrated that its not out when Q1 is not over yet? I understand if it was Q3 and still nothing!
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All I want off Sammy are the damn camera drivers.
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Yes! That would make me choose cm9 rather than wait for an official update.
Will we get them with the new tabs? They could be ported to our devices then.
nakedninja42 said:
Samsung said it would release during Q1, why are people getting mad/frustrated that its not out when Q1 is not over yet? I understand if it was Q3 and still nothing!
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Might be so because ASUS seems to be doing a good job by providing regular updates. At least more than Samsung.
anirudh24seven said:
Irritated to learn about the launch of the 10.1 version of the Galaxy Tab 2.
Can't we users and developers urge Samsung to release the official ICS update for our GT 10.1 instead of launching product after product with very little differences? I don't feel like buying Samsung products anymore.
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I dunno -- the Note 10.1 actually seems like a great idea to me! I love my 5.whatever" Note phone/tablet. That being said, I might prefer a 8.9" version (any smaller and it's no fun reading comics on it and for me 10.1 is a little largish for book-reading).
PS: Yeah, they should release an ICS update for the existing devices too.
Yeah! How dare they announce a new product! I can't believe the gall of these companies--what do they think we are? Consumers? Bah, I think that a company should be limited to releasing one product a year, and whenever they release a better product ours should be upgraded.
And you know why I'm so angry? It's because I have no idea that there's real things in the world to be angry about! I never watch the news or read a paper, or really anything other than forums and blogs! Because I pay no attention to the real world, I think that the worst thing in the world is when a multinational electronics corporation releases a new product! Don't they realize the harm they cause by designing and selling new products? Do they not see that when I buy a product, I expect that it will be the best thing available (or just announced...) for at least a decade? Oh man, I just can't understand what they're thinking. In a world like ours of total customer loyalty to brand names--In the quickly shifting category of consumer electronics--I am shocked they didn't at least send us a survey.
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Yeah! How dare they announce a new product! I can't believe the gall of these companies--what do they think we are? Consumers? Bah, I think that a company should be limited to releasing one product a year, and whenever they release a better product ours should be upgraded.
And you know why I'm so angry? It's because I have no idea that there's real things in the world to be angry about! I never watch the news or read a paper, or really anything other than forums and blogs! Because I pay no attention to the real world, I think that the worst thing in the world is when a multinational electronics corporation releases a new product! Don't they realize the harm they cause by designing and selling new products? Do they not see that when I buy a product, I expect that it will be the best thing available (or just announced...) for at least a decade? Oh man, I just can't understand what they're thinking. In a world like ours of total customer loyalty to brand names--In the quickly shifting category of consumer electronics--I am shocked they didn't at least send us a survey.
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Ouch! I just got flamed.
I have to admit it when someone makes more sense than I do.
Thing is, there is almost no reason for them to make ICS for the original 10.1 It just costs them money to make a few of their more techie customers happy. Time and time again companies have made it clear they could care less that a few people won't buy their products because they won't update software promptly.
The 10.1.5 with ICS makes sense. They barely had to do any engineering on the hardware so it was cheap, and they need ICS to attract customers to buy it. ICS now becomes profitable for them. Companies (aside from charities) exist for one reason, profit. As long as they are making that profit, they can care less what you as a customer think of them. Luckily we have a little control in what we do or don't buy which helps make companies care, but it is all for naught if they are still raking in billions each quarter. It sucks, but at the very least we have CM9
For all I care they can release 100 new Tablets this year because I will buy the one I want and won't care about the rest..
Choice is good...
x-ravin said:
Thing is, there is almost no reason for them to make ICS for the original 10.1 It just costs them money to make a few of their more techie customers happy. Time and time again companies have made it clear they could care less that a few people won't buy their products because they won't update software promptly.
The 10.1.5 with ICS makes sense. They barely had to do any engineering on the hardware so it was cheap, and they need ICS to attract customers to buy it. ICS now becomes profitable for them. Companies (aside from charities) exist for one reason, profit. As long as they are making that profit, they can care less what you as a customer think of them. Luckily we have a little control in what we do or don't buy which helps make companies care, but it is all for naught if they are still raking in billions each quarter. It sucks, but at the very least we have CM9
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Same thing was said with the galaxy s from 2.1 to 2.2, 2.2 to 2.3, just relax and wait for it.
10.1 and 8.9 will get the ICS, why would samsung leave is first real tablet with 6/7 months old without this major update?
I just read in another post that Samsung has to support devices for 18 months per some google agreement. So we would definitely see ICS, but who knows when?
Not info from me, just what I just read in another post.
If you can read this it was sent using my GT-P7510.
I think the figure was that 1% (not those guys) are running ICS, with so little usage it will take awhile for more quality development.
And more bugs to get worked out.... The CM stolen roms will work until then.
Also I thought dude worked for Samsung now... Perhaps he can make friends in the camera.apk department... Maybe an email like hey... you know, how about a little something for the effort.
I joke, I joke.....
Benzoman said:
I just read in another post that Samsung has to support devices for 18 months per some google agreement. So we would definitely see ICS, but who knows when?
Not info from me, just what I just read in another post.
If you can read this it was sent using my GT-P7510.
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Yup. That was announced originally at Google I/O spring 2011. That means we would qualify for the Android 5 update when that gets announced later during Q3 or late fall.
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And you know why I'm so angry? It's because I have no idea that there's real things in the world to be angry about! I never watch the news or read a paper, or really anything other than forums and blogs! Because I pay no attention to the real world, I think that the worst thing in the world is when a multinational electronics corporation releases a new product! Don't they realize the harm they cause by designing and selling new products? Do they not see that when I buy a product, I expect that it will be the best thing available (or just announced...) for at least a decade? Oh man, I just can't understand what they're thinking. In a world like ours of total customer loyalty to brand names--In the quickly shifting category of consumer electronics--I am shocked they didn't at least send us a survey.
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Actually customer loyalty is very low, especially with electronics, with the exception being apple, but even then its not as high as you might think. Also it would be impossible for the product to be "the best thing available for at least a decade" ... not only is computing exponential, the rate of exponential growth is itself speeding up.
Computing power doubled every 18 months in 1950, today it doubles every 11 months. That being said they could definitely make their products more upgradable, and in a sense you can do it yourself (rooting, overclocking, new ROMs) and above all they don't care as long as they are making their share holders happy.
Someone mentioned Apple earlier and say about Samsung, that choice is good. While Samsung do make great products,including much of the iPhone, I do believe Samsung could learn a lot from Apples product strategy.
The raft of new devices, like Galaxy Tab 10.1 2 which apparently isn't the real successor, only a sideways step, is an example of the lack of clarity and focus from Samsung. Then there the Galaxy Tab 7.0 plus followed by the Galaxy Tab 2. Which one follows from the original tab? Then there's rumours of the Note 10.1?
There is way too much product overlap and seemingly little focus. And with Galaxy minis and young's and aces, even the phone market seems confusing. At least we know the S is the pinnacle and the S3 won't be an S2 with ice cream sandwich and the real successor being something like a Samsung Galaxy Young Ultimate HD 4.8.
Put it like this, you want an iphone or an I pad, you get one. Like it or not, its a strong brand.
At first I thought the whole apple fanboy rage is what caused apple to release iPad2 then iPad3 in less than a year. I used to be an iOS owner, and was pretty proud of it without falling into the apple sheep or the cult that worships the half bitten apple. I had the initial 2G for both the iPhone and the iPod only to see what I was missing out, shortly then came the release for the 3G which was quickly discarded in about 4-5 months with the launch of the 3GS and the trend followed. I used to be so ENRAGED about how I as a consumer had to keep myself constantly in the mix of what was being released and If I wanted to get it with the same idea that
"This **** will last me for about a year, I mean hey ,I used my nokia for 2-3 years"
and then BOOM, the bloody mass corporates state "I am sad to say we are cutting off all support for previous Apple devices below the 3G series" that **** move made me swap to the green little buddy whom I feel I have spent my money's worth. I mean for the love of God, Apple, It's the same interface for like 4, no, 5 generations now! NOTHING in their interface has changed, just the price and look+feel.
Just when I thought that headache was over, I moved to Samsung which had the sexiest designs out of all the smartphones in the market. Purchased my first Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab 7 (Edition 1) and was proud, then development ceased for both due to developers being demanded in the latest S2 and Asus Transformer and I agreed one can't be stuck on one device permanently and so I hoped that the incoming ICS would give me some hope, then Samsung pulled another **** move and said "These following devices will not be getting ICS and Gingerbread 2.3.7 will be the last firmware" and hillariously, mines fell into that son of a gun list, and so I bought the HTC Evo 3D, same story with the development. And so I decided to play cat and mouse, grab the next "Hot item" that hit the shelves, and that was the Galaxy Tab 10.1 only to my dismay it's been less than what? 1-2months and I feel they are about to cease all support for this. Even worse? I have both the 10.1v and non V editions. **** just got real.
I am not angry, I an ENRAGED, If samsung decides to pull a Nokia stunt that releases a new bloody device EVERY SINGLE MONTH, Then fu** Samsung and the minds behind their marketing strategy. I will personally walk upto their sales rep and smash my Galaxy Tab on their faces, probably quote "NOPE SEEMS FACEUNLOCK DIDNT WORK, OH WELL"
I agree 100%..
Even Samsung admitted they are really failing in the tablet dept..
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Even Samsung admitted they are really failing in the tablet dept..
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Soon it won't be just the tablet's but they would be failing their consumers hard. When you are forced to spend over $1000 or more in less than a month for a device that doesn't last in the market for 2-3 months? Ridiculous!!
Don't know how accurate this is.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...m-beating-iPhone-4s-4m.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
It IS the most fastest electronic device to be sold in history.
With all the hype with Samsung they will.
And from each generation of the Galaxy S series, they've always gotten significantly better.
Hopefully iPhone 5 doesn't take over, but I know that they won't stand a chance against the S3.
Apple must be sitting back watching all of this thinking that they better pull something extraordinary out of the bag. Apple will no doubt be suing the pants off Samsung to coincide with the release of the S3.
I'm buying it on the release day, but I haven't pre-ordered it.
Wow, some of you really need to relax with the hate.
Honestly, do you want to know what the absolute best scenario is? For Apple to come out and blow the doors off of the GS3. Why? Competition. Without it, we wouldn't even be here to begin with. The SG1 doesn't exist without the I-phone. If Samsung has no competition, why exactly should they strive to improve?? They definitely wouldn't. So stop rooting for either one of them... and start rooting for your pocket.
At the end of the day, neither of them really care about you. So stop "celebrating" like you have something tangible to gain. You don't. You're merely a statistic. End of story.
I wonder how many of us have pre-ordered from different places? And not only that, people have pre-ordered both variants just in case of delays, and all memory sizes just in case.
So 9 million could well turn into only an actual 4.5 million phones based on colour alone.
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sjdean said:
I wonder how many of us have pre-ordered from different places? And not only that, people have pre-ordered both variants just in case of delays, and all memory sizes just in case.
So 9 million could well turn into only an actual 4.5 million phones based on colour alone.
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The same can be said about of most of the popular releases, so even the 4million that the iPhone got could easily be 2 million
Apple could make the most amazing hardware in the world, it'll still be **** because it'll be running IOS.
vapotrini said:
Wow, some of you really need to relax with the hate.
Honestly, do you want to know what the absolute best scenario is? For Apple to come out and blow the doors off of the GS3. Why? Competition. Without it, we wouldn't even be here to begin with. The SG1 doesn't exist without the I-phone. If Samsung has no competition, why exactly should they strive to improve?? They definitely wouldn't. So stop rooting for either one of them... and start rooting for your pocket.
At the end of the day, neither of them really care about you. So stop "celebrating" like you have something tangible to gain. You don't. You're merely a statistic. End of story.
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LeviathanPT said:
The same can be said about of most of the popular releases, so even the 4million that the iPhone got could easily be 2 million
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Absolutely,that is true.
First, I think this is a bunch of hype and probably overly exaggerated. If there were 9 million pre orders, wouldn't you expect just a little more people on this forum. Both the htc one x and gs2 forums on xda seemed to be more populated before their releases than this forum. Also, I know I live in the U.S. were the phone technically wasn't announced yet, but I only know of one person maybe two outside of the online forums that even knows about this phone. When the iphone 4s was announced almost everyone I knew was talking about.
On the apple talk, did apple ever have a global release? I am pretty sure apple preorder numbers are only on U.S. based customers but I could be wrong.
because this forum represents <1% of users. and people come here after release looking for softmods.
vapotrini said:
Wow, some of you really need to relax with the hate.
Honestly, do you want to know what the absolute best scenario is? For Apple to come out and blow the doors off of the GS3. Why? Competition. Without it, we wouldn't even be here to begin with. The SG1 doesn't exist without the I-phone. If Samsung has no competition, why exactly should they strive to improve?? They definitely wouldn't. So stop rooting for either one of them... and start rooting for your pocket.
At the end of the day, neither of them really care about you. So stop "celebrating" like you have something tangible to gain. You don't. You're merely a statistic. End of story.
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agreed.
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like, thumbs up.
you got a point on all your points.
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First, I think this is a bunch of hype and probably overly exaggerated. If there were 9 million pre orders, wouldn't you expect just a little more people on this forum. Both the htc one x and gs2 forums on xda seemed to be more populated before their releases than this forum. Also, I know I live in the U.S. were the phone technically wasn't announced yet, but I only know of one person maybe two outside of the online forums that even knows about this phone. When the iphone 4s was announced almost everyone I knew was talking about.
On the apple talk, did apple ever have a global release? I am pretty sure apple preorder numbers are only on U.S. based customers but I could be wrong.
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It's okay, the US is usually late for the parties anyway...
I find this hard to believe. If a new iPhone is coming out, everyone starts talking about it months before. When a new Samsung phone is coming out, only geeks like us talk about it. I haven't heard any buzz about SGS 3.
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First, I think this is a bunch of hype and probably overly exaggerated. If there were 9 million pre orders, wouldn't you expect just a little more people on this forum. Both the htc one x and gs2 forums on xda seemed to be more populated before their releases than this forum. Also, I know I live in the U.S. were the phone technically wasn't announced yet, but I only know of one person maybe two outside of the online forums that even knows about this phone. When the iphone 4s was announced almost everyone I knew was talking about.
On the apple talk, did apple ever have a global release? I am pretty sure apple preorder numbers are only on U.S. based customers but I could be wrong.
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Yeah because everybody in the world flocks to XDA.
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Yeah because everybody in the world flocks to XDA.
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No but $800 smartphone only tech addicts buy
MarkieSA said:
Apple must be sitting back watching all of this thinking that they better pull something extraordinary out of the bag. Apple will no doubt be suing the pants off Samsung to coincide with the release of the S3.
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The "pre-orders" are from carriers and resellers and are stretched out over a year. With the SGS2 selling 20MM copies to not have 10MM pre-orders for the SGS3 would be shocking. Samsung UK's said customer pre-orders are "in the thousands." But the UK carriers all confirmed it's the most pre-ordered device they've sold.
To put the SGS2's success and SGS3's potential in perspective, here's some statistics. In 2011 there were 488MM smartphones sold worldwide. Samsung sold 20MM SGS2's. That means the SGS2 made up 4% of 2011 global smartphone sales. There were 54MM iPhone's sold which represents 11% of the market. So 85% of the world bought something other than the two most hyped and recognized smartphones on the market.
And comparing the SGS2 against Samsung's total sales is interesting. They sold 90MM smartphones in 2011. With 20MM SGS2's sold, 78% of the smartphones they sold weren't SGS2s.
If the SGS3 doubles in sales (which is lofty) over the SGS2 it'll still be behind the iPhone (which itself will grow in sales) and have 8% of the market in 2012; meaning 92% of smartphone buyers will buy something other than the SGS3.
Samsung’s numbers are impressive and they and Apple share 90% of mobile device profit between them. But clearly the sun doesn't rise and set based on a single device; no matter how good it is. There's a reason for the Galaxy Y and One V which will outsell the SGS3 and One X by a large margin.
love the S3 But
There is always going to be a debate between apple and samsung, but I for 1 believe in the competition aspect of it also, I just hope that apple comes out with something that is going to challenge samsung and vice a versa the only winners here r us
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It IS the most fastest electronic device to be sold in history.
With all the hype with Samsung they will.
And from each generation of the Galaxy S series, they've always gotten significantly better.
Hopefully iPhone 5 doesn't take over, but I know that they won't stand a chance against the S3.
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I don't think apple has a chance either but hope apple give them something to shoot for should be interesting to watch -
aydc said:
I find this hard to believe. If a new iPhone is coming out, everyone starts talking about it months before. When a new Samsung phone is coming out, only geeks like us talk about it. I haven't heard any buzz about SGS 3.
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Because its an Iphone? And 13 year old girls tend to talk more than normal people?
I really surprised at this, I thought the iPad/Pad would have been well ahead with "most preorders".
Since Android was released, I've been a huge fan and my first Android phone was the HTC G1. All my phones since then have been Android with my current one being the Samsung Galaxy S2. While they have all been great, I have been really disappointed with not having timely Android OS updates. Some updates were skipped while others were delayed to the point that they were no longer the latest version by the time they were released. I then decided that my next phone would be a Nexus device. I was tempted by the Samsung Galaxy S3 when it came out by decided to hold out for the rumoured Nexus 4.
Everything I read about the N4 was looking promising but I'm not one to be an early adopter so when the N4 came out, I decided not to order it and wait for the early adopters to report any issues and make my decision based on that. When the 2nd wave of N4s came out, it was still too early as many people still had not gotten the N4 from the first wave so I decided to hold off yet again. I knew I'd be waiting until after Xmas for when I would likely be able to place my order.
Since early January, I have read a lot of user comments and I feel there is nothing being reported that has put me off. I am now in a position where I would be happy to purchase the N4 if/when it comes back on sale in the UK. I now hear rumours that this may not happen until mid-February. This would be around 3 months after it's initial release which is much longer than I hoped to wait for. I am really confused which way to go on this.
Reasons to skip the N4:
1. Being 3 months in probably means we're about 9 months away from the "Nexus 5". With JB update starting to roll out to the SGS2, I could quite possibly hold off until the N5. Also, there's no guarantee that the N4 supply won't be delayed further.
2. The flaky supply issues could indicate that LG accessories, spares and repairs could be affected as well. Even if available, they may charge a disproportional amount compared to the phone price.
3. I'm intrigued by the rumours of the Motorola X phone.
Reasons to buy the N4:
1. The N4 is still a great phone even if I only get my hands on it in late Feb. I don't use the phone for gaming so the spec of the phone could easily last me 2 years (or whenever I get tempted by another phone).
2. Google and LG have really shaken the market by bringing this phone at such a low price point. I'm hoping it will lead the way for other manufacturers that top end phones shouldn't be such a huge price. Buying the N4 shows my consumer support for this thinking. As a consumer, wouldn't we all love cheaper (top end) phones.
Any thoughts, suggestions?
Buy. It.
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The only thing REALLY bugging me about the N4 is that google hasn't restocked in over a month.
You said the thing that bothers you most is lack of timely updates. Buy it and be happy.
When the n5 comes out you can sell the n4 with minimal loss. Go for it.
Techno79 said:
Being 3 months in probably means we're about 9 months away from the "Nexus 5". With JB update starting to roll out to the SGS2, I could quite possibly hold off until the N5. Also, there's no guarantee that the N4 supply won't be delayed further.
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I don't really understand this part, where you basically say "I've waited 3 months for the N4, I'd better wait 9 more to the N5".
You waited until after Christmas before deciding to place the order, so you've actually waited 1 month more than expected as of today. I think that's not that big deal.
In either case you're gonna wait, so why wait more?
Following your line of thought, you should wait 2 months after the N5 launch (if you want to wait for the opinion of the early adopters as you did for the N4) before buying it. This'll make you wait roughly a year from now.
Are you sure the N5 launch will be as smooth as butter? What if the N5 is another really well-built and cheap device... and you have just the whole world waiting to lay their hands on it?
Who says you'll be able to get the Nexus 5 at launch?
To sum it up: waiting for the new Nexus device is not worth the time. The Nexus 4 is an awesome device, buy it (sic)!
And if the Nexus 5 will prove being that much better smartphone, you'll still be able to sell the N4 at a great price and buy the N5 without a hitch.
And if the declarations of LG France are truthful, you'll probably have to wait just one more month before unwrapping your brand new LGE Nexus 4
If you need a new phone get one. Thats the way I roll. I'll use this phone until its old and busted, doesn't hold a charge, Or I crack the screen.
DO you NEED a new phone? Can you afford 350 in throw away cash?
Those are the only two things I can see stopping someone from buying anything.
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I don't really understand this part, where you basically say "I've waited 3 months for the N4, I'd better wait 9 more to the N5".
You waited until after Christmas before deciding to place the order, so you've actually waited 1 month more than expected as of today. I think that's not that big deal.
In either case you're gonna wait, so why wait more?
Following your line of thought, you should wait 2 months after the N5 launch (if you want to wait for the opinion of the early adopters as you did for the N4) before buying it. This'll make you wait roughly a year from now.
Are you sure the N5 launch will be as smooth as butter? What if the N5 is another really well-built and cheap device... and you have just the whole world waiting to lay their hands on it?
Who says you'll be able to get the Nexus 5 at launch?
To sum it up: waiting for the new Nexus device is not worth the time. The Nexus 4 is an awesome device, buy it (sic)!
And if the Nexus 5 will prove being that much better smartphone, you'll still be able to sell the N4 at a great price and buy the N5 without a hitch.
And if the declarations of LG France are truthful, you'll probably have to wait just one more month before unwrapping your brand new LGE Nexus 4
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I was calculating the 3 months wait based upon when I reckon the phone will come back in stock in UK and the earliest I'd get the phone in my hands. However, I do accept your point that if the N5 came out then I wouldn't get it at launch and would be waiting a month or two like I normally do. I guess the frustration of waiting for it to come back in stock made me mis-calculate the timings
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If you need a new phone get one. Thats the way I roll. I'll use this phone until its old and busted, doesn't hold a charge, Or I crack the screen.
DO you NEED a new phone? Can you afford 350 in throw away cash?
Those are the only two things I can see stopping someone from buying anything.
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I don't "Need" a new phone but I do "really really really want" one. I'm assuming you're talking about $350? In the UK the 16GB is only priced £280 (plus a little for postage). I can definitely afford this amount for the phone.
Ok, thanks for all the comments. My mind is made up, I'm getting the N4 as soon as it comes back in stock in the Play Store. Hopefully the Google Wireless charger will have been launched by then as well so I can have phone + accessories from day 1.
I managed to place my order bang on 3pm went it came back in stock in UK on Wednesday. It's already been delivered at home so I'll get a chance to play with it when I get back. Less than 43 hours from placing order to being delivered is pretty good. Looks like Google has definitely gotten their act together. I also see that they are still in stock showing 1 to 2 weeks shipping (which is what it said when I placed my order) so it's all looking very positive.
Ignore this, you've already got it lol
Enjoy
Hahah this thread is a fail/tool/troll nothing is bandwagon about the nexus 4, without forums you wouldn't have known about it..and BTW the gs3/note 2 are bandwagon devices...so what if its been out for 3 months its only been available 3 times since release...not even iPhone or any device has sold like that
"Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's"
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Hahah this thread is a fail/tool/troll
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Actually it was a genuine question which everyone EXCEPT YOU seemed to have noticed.
androidfoshizzle said:
nothing is bandwagon about the nexus 4
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There's nothing negative about the term bandwagon (definition: joining a growing movement in support of someone or something). In my eyes it is a bandwagon as more and more people are starting to realise the benefit of a Pure Google Experience device.
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without forums you wouldn't have known about it
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Wrong again, do you honestly believe everyone gets new information just from forums? There are many other sources of information and I actually first heard about it from the many Android blogs I follow.
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so what if its been out for 3 months its only been available 3 times since release...not even iPhone or any device has sold like that
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Comparing based on the number of times it has sold out is pointless unless you factor in the number of units available each time. If they released it in smaller batches then I'm sure they would have more than 3 "sell outs".
The content of your post is both pointless and unhelpful as it is but the fact that you wrote it after I already posted that I've purchased the device AND taken delivery takes it to a whole new level. *slow clap*
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Actually it was a genuine question which everyone EXCEPT YOU seemed to have noticed.
There's nothing negative about the term bandwagon (definition: joining a growing movement in support of someone or something). In my eyes it is a bandwagon as more and more people are starting to realise the benefit of a Pure Google Experience device.
Wrong again, do you honestly believe everyone gets new information just from forums? There are many other sources of information and I actually first heard about it from the many Android blogs I follow.
Comparing based on the number of times it has sold out is pointless unless you factor in the number of units available each time. If they released it in smaller batches then I'm sure they would have more than 3 "sell outs".
The content of your post is both pointless and unhelpful as it is but the fact that you wrote it after I already posted that I've purchased the device AND taken delivery takes it to a whole new level. *slow clap*
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Thus thread is useless
"Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's"
Motorola is still looking for a product manager for the X-Phone, so it isn't THAT close, and it's biggest advantage over the N4 will be probably be a 1080p screen, which is nigh-moot on a phone. It will probably have LTE variants, too.
Buy it.
Techno79 said:
Actually it was a genuine question which everyone EXCEPT YOU seemed to have noticed.
There's nothing negative about the term bandwagon (definition: joining a growing movement in support of someone or something). In my eyes it is a bandwagon as more and more people are starting to realise the benefit of a Pure Google Experience device.
Wrong again, do you honestly believe everyone gets new information just from forums? There are many other sources of information and I actually first heard about it from the many Android blogs I follow.
Comparing based on the number of times it has sold out is pointless unless you factor in the number of units available each time. If they released it in smaller batches then I'm sure they would have more than 3 "sell outs".
The content of your post is both pointless and unhelpful as it is but the fact that you wrote it after I already posted that I've purchased the device AND taken delivery takes it to a whole new level. *slow clap*
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Nice one you made him look like a right tool.
Is everyone still in contract from the SIII or something? I remember the forums blowing up with discussion of when the SIII was going to be released, all the retailers carrying it and when they picked up their pre-orders, etc etc.... What's up, XDA, are we all asleep at the wheel here or is this phone just not going to be a success like the SIII was? I hate seeing a good device not being appreciated, but man, I'm hearing crickets chirping over here!
Hopefully when it releases, we'll have a ton of development just like there was with the SIII, but we're not even seeing root yet for the I337 - we had root a week before the I747 was released, and I rooted that sucker the day I got it home, launch day! I'm telling you, it's almost not worth having if we can't root it or there won't be anyone theming the S4.....
What is UP, XDA?
KryptosXLayer2 said:
Is everyone still in contract from the SIII or something? I remember the forums blowing up with discussion of when the SIII was going to be released, all the retailers carrying it and when they picked up their pre-orders, etc etc.... What's up, XDA, are we all asleep at the wheel here or is this phone just not going to be a success like the SIII was? I hate seeing a good device not being appreciated, but man, I'm hearing crickets chirping over here!
Hopefully when it releases, we'll have a ton of development just like there was with the SIII, but we're not even seeing root yet for the I337 - we had root a week before the I747 was released, and I rooted that sucker the day I got it home, launch day! I'm telling you, it's almost not worth having if we can't root it or there won't be anyone theming the S4.....
What is UP, XDA?
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You may be right about the contract thing. If most people picked up the S3 in June (I believe), they wouldn't be eligible for upgrade yet. I'm feeling the same as you are about the hype but it will pick up once the phone is out and available. The other thing is that many consider this a Apple style "S" iteration of the phone. Software tweaks mostly so if you recently put down for the S3 and/or have the option of getting the S3 at a very low price, more people might lean that way. Specially if you consider how much development there is already on S3.
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You may be right about the contract thing. If most people picked up the S3 in June (I believe), they wouldn't be eligible for upgrade yet. I'm feeling the same as you are about the hype but it will pick up once the phone is out and available. The other thing is that many consider this a Apple style "S" iteration of the phone. Software tweaks mostly so if you recently put down for the S3 and/or have the option of getting the S3 at a very low price, more people might lean that way. Specially if you consider how much development there is already on S3.
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Yeah, my upgrade isn't available since I used it on the SIII, but I'm stealing one from another account I manage and the authorized user on, so you're right, but isn't it a good thing that Samsung is coming up with new tech sooner than later? I just hate that this is being looked at a negative thing, to update the phones faster than once a year....
God, isn't that the worst thing possible, for the S4 / SIII to be compared to the iThing 4S / 4? I don't see the S4 being just a slight upgrade to the SIII, I think there's a lot of redeeming features that made me want to upgrade.... I see your point and have heard the same thing about the S model update, but I'm happy that I'm moving up from the SIII, there's a lot left to be desired on the SIII
Oh well, #firstworldproblems, haha
I think my upgrade comes comparatively early, since I'm on an ancient, grandfathered, 18-month upgrade cycle per two-year contract... One of my other lines got an S3 at launch, but they are not eligible to upgrade to the S4 yet.
Meanwhile, I'll be happily burning my upgrade this June.
I agree, there doesn't seem to be as much hype this time around. But I know a lot of people jumped on the S3 and it could be a contract thing. That's what happened to me. But I had decided back then that when the time came (and that time is now) I'll be adding an additional line. That way I can get the S4 (for contract price) and then next year when my S3 is up, I can upgrade to the S5. It basically costs around $10/mo for the ability to trade up each year.
RTBee said:
I agree, there doesn't seem to be as much hype this time around. But I know a lot of people jumped on the S3 and it could be a contract thing. That's what happened to me. But I had decided back then that when the time came (and that time is now) I'll be adding an additional line. That way I can get the S4 (for contract price) and then next year when my S3 is up, I can upgrade to the S5. It basically costs around $10/mo for the ability to trade up each year.
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That's quite a bit of money to spend just to get a new phone every year, but I hate it when people tell me how to spend my money, so I'm not gonna do that to you - I just manage a bunch of accounts since no one knows a damn thing about phones, and switch out upgrades so I can always get a new phone when they're available, I have two upgrades to use right now if I wanted to, but I like saving one in case of an emergency.... you know, someone drops their phone and doesn't want to pay the full $600+ for a replacement!
I just saw this come through on Twitter:
Overwhelming Demand for the Galaxy S4 Causing Inventory Issues with Samsung
pretty interesting read, nothing special, but at least it isn't this disaster I'm over here thinking it is.... there were only TWO pre-orders at my local BBY! The girls there told me that a lot of people have come in asking about it, and when prompted to make a pre-order for only $50 that they can use later on something else if they don't end up going with the S4, they all declined - cheap bastards!! Here I go again shopping out of my own wallet.....
Ive said since day 1 i dont see alot of hype for the s4. I do think development might be better on the international models.
Less hype hopefully means more available on launch day. I just tried the htc one and didnt like it, didnt wow me at all. I was going to stick with my nexus 4 until the nexus 5 but then read google will soon anounce the new nexus 4 with different radios and no signs of a nexus 5 so I believe for now s4 will do.
Yep definitely not as much hype. I bought my S3 off contract, and now the S4 I am getting on contract. Just gonna walk into the store on the 27th and pick it up, seriously doubt they will be sold out, or even a line or anything close.
Hopefully its not like the Note 1 launch. I came in day 1 of release and they were like what is a Note? We haven't heard of it.
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Yep definitely not as much hype. I bought my S3 off contract, and now the S4 I am getting on contract. Just gonna walk into the store on the 27th and pick it up, seriously doubt they will be sold out, or even a line or anything close.
Hopefully its not like the Note 1 launch. I came in day 1 of release and they were like what is a Note? We haven't heard of it.
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Hah, I hope not, but by now, if they don't know what the 4th iteration of the Galaxy line is, they probably shouldn't work in a mobile department.....
Good luck finding one on launch day, but if you do, post your results and let us know how many your store had in stock - I don't think stores are getting tons of them, but not many people pre-ordered, so you might be right!
Eh I actually changed my mind about going to the store. I'll just order it through the phone. I seem to be pretty busy this weekend and I am in no rush to get this one. Its prtty much same thing as my s3!
geoldr said:
Eh I actually changed my mind about going to the store. I'll just order it through the phone. I seem to be pretty busy this weekend and I am in no rush to get this one. Its prtty much same thing as my s3!
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Don't say that! Or at least don't let the iSheep hear you say it! This is NO "Galaxy S III S" damnit......
Pretty cool that you've had all the same Android phones I had, got good taste
Dude, why you tripping?? Want some xanax?
KryptosXLayer2 said:
Is everyone still in contract from the SIII or something? I remember the forums blowing up with discussion of when the SIII was going to be released, all the retailers carrying it and when they picked up their pre-orders, etc etc.... What's up, XDA, are we all asleep at the wheel here or is this phone just not going to be a success like the SIII was? I hate seeing a good device not being appreciated, but man, I'm hearing crickets chirping over here!
Hopefully when it releases, we'll have a ton of development just like there was with the SIII, but we're not even seeing root yet for the I337 - we had root a week before the I747 was released, and I rooted that sucker the day I got it home, launch day! I'm telling you, it's almost not worth having if we can't root it or there won't be anyone theming the S4.....
What is UP, XDA?
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Months later and much hasn't changed :/
It's BETTER!
FourPointedFreak said:
Months later and much hasn't changed :/
It's BETTER!
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Stop necro posting.
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graydiggy said:
Stop necro posting.
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I'm not necro posting - I am contributing my opinion to a thread that either hasn't been touched or I had relevant input. The only attempt to necro post here was your reply. Thanks anyway.
Obviously trying to up his post count.
FourPointedFreak said:
I'm not necro posting - I am contributing my opinion to a thread that either hasn't been touched or I had relevant input. The only attempt to necro post here was your reply. Thanks anyway.
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You have brought back multiple threads that were dead for at least 2 to 4 months. Regardless of your input, it is necroposting.
Your post that brought this back had no valid information. You have contributed nothing. Congratulations on outing yourself.
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Well everyone here does say search instead of creating similar topics. Now the same people are contradicting themselves by saying not to post on an old topic. The irony
Lol
j510 said:
Well everyone here does say search instead of creating similar topics. Now the same people are contradicting themselves by saying not to post on an old topic. The irony
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His post was completely unnecessary. It was not asking a question, it was not contributing any new found or valid information, it was completely pointless.
Yes, use the search function for finding information. Doesn't mean one needs to post on a old dead thread. When we say "don't necro" we mean don't bring back anything that is a couple months old. When we say don't make a new thread involving something that has been said, we mean don't post a new thread that is answered in any of the stickies or within the first few pages. The other day, there were 5 posts on the first page with people asking if they could put a custom recovery on MF3 and 5 more about people bricking by trying to put one on MF3. Do you understand?
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