In conclusion: Amazing. The work Turl, Jokersax, etc have done here is amazing.
Why do I say this? I just got a One X. And it feels slower than my Atrix
Thanks guys, and I hope it will go on being appreciated by my girlfriend (if I can pry her away from the world of physical keyboards - can't keep using a Desire Z forever!)
Some work to be done here, methinks. Plus, I used to think Sense made Android better. Since Google gave us ICS, it feels like an abomination
Did you get a 4G LTE one? That ones dual core just like the, and the unlocked HSPA+ ones are quad core. At least, thats how I understand it, correct me if im wrong.
But still, it being "just a dual core" shouldnt make it laggy, if anything it should be a similar experience to the Atrix, or more so. Very peculiar.
Anyways, it looks like an awesome phone, maybe you just need some good ole Cyanogen magic to bring it out of its shell.
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Did you get a 4G LTE one? That ones dual core just like the, and the unlocked HSPA+ ones are quad core. At least, thats how I understand it, correct me if im wrong.
But still, it being "just a dual core" shouldnt make it laggy, if anything it should be a similar experience to the Atrix, or more so. Very peculiar.
Anyways, it looks like an awesome phone, maybe you just need some good ole Cyanogen magic to bring it out of its shell.
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The Krait CPU in the dual core version is actually super competitive with the Tegra3 quad core version, so if it is slower than the Atrix, more power to the developers!
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Did you get a 4G LTE one? That ones dual core just like the, and the unlocked HSPA+ ones are quad core. At least, thats how I understand it, correct me if im wrong.
But still, it being "just a dual core" shouldnt make it laggy, if anything it should be a similar experience to the Atrix, or more so. Very peculiar.
Anyways, it looks like an awesome phone, maybe you just need some good ole Cyanogen magic to bring it out of its shell.
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I think you something...
Actually, I would've preferred a Krait-based version (krait owns a9s in terms of performance per core, so an app is going to have to be very well threaded to run faster on Tegra 3... Plus Adreno 225 is a good deal faster than Tegra 3s GPU) but here in the UK we don't have commercially available LTE yet, so mine's the standard Kal-El quad.
It's better now its rooted and running a bloat-free ROM, but it doesn't feel faster than the Atrix tbh. It's nice to finally have a phone with a non-pentile screen though
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Actually, I would've preferred a Krait-based version (krait owns a9s in terms of performance per core, so an app is going to have to be very well threaded to run faster on Tegra 3... Plus Adreno 225 is a good deal faster than Tegra 3s GPU) but here in the UK we don't have commercially available LTE yet, so mine's the standard Kal-El quad.
It's better now its rooted and running a bloat-free ROM, but it doesn't feel faster than the Atrix tbh. It's nice to finally have a phone with a non-pentile screen though
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That's so weird to hear that the quad isn't as fast. I know we don't need quad cores at all, its stupid and only for wow factor, but its still weird to hear that. Once more developers get on into the One X though, its going to be sick. A lot of devs are leaving the Desire HD to get the One X.
What is the One X overclock-able to?
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i wonder if a de-sensed ROM on the oneX would be smoother?
I wouldn't be surprised if next gen smartphones have a core i7 3960X and 24GB of ram.
Hah! You've hit on why I never bought into the hype for the SGSII. I think we've reached a point where, unless Android 5+ has something really heavy in it the OS is no longer bottlenecked by hardware. Dual core 1Ghz+ CPUs are enough for Android to run like butter, and as a result the screen or LTE are the only incentives to upgrade at this point in time.
I hear you on pentile, ever since I read about it I cant un-notice it on greens. But is a screen really worth $200(contract)-$600(no contract)? IMO its not.
Either way, enjoy your One X. Its popularity and HTC's track record with unlockable bootloaders should all but guarantee you'll see stock ICS roms pretty soon.
The HTC One X comes with Sense 4 so it already has ICS.
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Hah! You've hit on why I never bought into the hype for the SGSII. I think we've reached a point where, unless Android 5+ has something really heavy in it the OS is no longer bottlenecked by hardware. Dual core 1Ghz+ CPUs are enough for Android to run like butter, and as a result the screen or LTE are the only incentives to upgrade at this point in time.
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Sure are. To be honest, I was perfectly happy with my Atrix. With CM9, it's perfect - incredibly fast, stable and great battery life (at least as far as Android phones go ). The only reason I upgraded was because I came to the end of my contract, and as I have to keep paying the amount I am for the internet coverage anyway, I figured why not renew for another 2 years and grab a new toy with no up-front cost.
I hear you on pentile, ever since I read about it I cant un-notice it on greens. But is a screen really worth $200(contract)-$600(no contract)? IMO its not.
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Actually, the Atrix PenTile LCD (RGBW) annoyed me far less than the AMOLED (RGBG) on the Desire I had previously - at least with the Atrix arrangement, black on white/white on black are rendered at full resolution, so most text is very sharp, whereas everything but green renders at 1/4 res on the non-super AMOLED!
Either way, enjoy your One X. Its popularity and HTC's track record with unlockable bootloaders should all but guarantee you'll see stock ICS roms pretty soon.
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Yeah, I think I should be on to a safe bet, the Desire development community is massive, which I always appreciated when I had one And I guess the One X is 2012's Desire... I'm (rather impatiently) looking forward to S-Off, AOSP/CM9 and custom kernels though.
I just need to get used to this size tax that all Android device manufacturers seem to be applying to their high-end phones these days 'Want a powerful phone? Sorry, it's got to be unfathomably gigantic' [it's not the bulk - the One X is lighter and thinner than the Atrix... What really irks me that I can't reach the top corners of the screen whilst holding the phone securely in one hand walking down the road or whatever. But maybe that's just me....]
So even though CM9 is still in alpha, it works great? Is there anything about it that doesn't work?
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So even though CM9 is still in alpha, it works great? Is there anything about it that doesn't work?
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I don't think video recording works, plus the browser tends to crash if you rotate from portrait to landscape. I now just turn the phone before starting the browser as a matter of habit Hardware video playback/encoding acceleration doesn't yet work, so most flash video at high bitrates is choppy at best, though Youtube works fine, as does local video (the files I tried, anyway). As always for CM roms, Moto webtop doesn't work, although there is a tablet-view based alternative that I think is currently working - it appears this is the route Motorola are going for in their own ICS ROMs anyway, so it will probably be the case for the Atrix too upon release. I don't really know as I've never used it.
But aside from that: yes, it's amazing. Far faster than any Froyo or Gingerbread release I tried in feel. The browser is much faster both in terms of page rendering and scrolling/zooming smoothness. Even complex AJAX web pages scroll and interact smoothly. With Chrome Beta, it's even better! Scrolling and transitions in general are much smoother thanks to the hardware accelerated GUI. To me, the Atrix feels like a whole new phone with ICS. Oh, and I forgot: The battery life is much better with my usage too - I rarely see below about 60% when returning from work these days where as back when I was running CM7, it would often be closer to 30%...
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So even though CM9 is still in alpha, it works great? Is there anything about it that doesn't work?
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This thread inspired me to give CM9 a try. It's definitely not ready for prime time. I went back to CM7. The camera didn't work half the time. Video recording doesn't work at all. Can't use tabs in Chrome and it crashed often. No fingerprint unlock which isn't a deal breaker but still a bummer.
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This thread inspired me to give CM9 a try. It's definitely not ready for prime time. I went back to CM7. The camera didn't work half the time. Video recording doesn't work at all. Can't use tabs in Chrome and it crashed often. No fingerprint unlock which isn't a deal breaker but still a bummer.
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I've used phones with OEM firmware with more bugs
What's up with the camera? I have zero issues with stills... Although the Atrix's camera is so terrible it's not really worth using anyway! (I'm sure the camera on my old Desire was a lot better? As is, obviously, the One X - though even that doesn't compete with the cheapest 'real' camera...)
Personally, I found that despite the bugs, going back to <ICS feels like being in the stone age Scrolling, zooming and the render time for complex pages in the browser is so bad on GB I actually hated browsing the web on it before the (very buggy) early test builds of CM9 came along. You can't even use Chrome on previous versions, so why does that matter? The stock browser is infinitely better on ICS than GB...
All the work these guys have put in to bring us ICS, IMO is incredible. Maybe it's not ready for 'prime time' but I'd hazard a guess that Motorola's initial official releases will likely be just as/more buggy (although maybe in different ways) and probably a hell of a lot slower if previous AOSP/CM vs. Moto ROM rules apply... Having said that, the correct + working video drivers from the Moto release when they drop will likely fix everything that's wrong with CM9 on the Atrix at the moment.
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thats just not realistic...
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What don't work on CM9 Roms?
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thats just not realistic...
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Why cut off the parenthesis? He said in different ways, which is more than possible
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Why cut off the parenthesis? He said in different ways, which is more than possible
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because stating that the official release will have as many if not more bugs is not the same as stating it will have different bugs. my argument is against the former. do you really think an official release from motorola, a company that has all the resources they need available to them (including a QA team), would have as many or more bugs than a community-developed ROM, which itself was a best-effort attempt at porting ICS to a platform which did not already have it? i'm sorry, but that is just a brash generalization possibly rooted in some sort of loathsomeness for not having an official ICS release already.
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because stating that the official release will have as many if not more bugs is not the same as stating it will have different bugs. my argument is against the former. do you really think an official release from motorola, a company that has all the resources they need available to them (including a QA team), would have as many or more bugs than a community-developed ROM, which itself was a best-effort attempt at porting ICS to a platform which did not already have it?
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Unfortunately, many Android lovers tend to believe community devs can do no wrong and corporate devs are slow and retarded.
If so, then why is dev work SO much better when source code, drivers, and official builds are released?
CM9 will be absolutely beyond amazing once official Atrix ICS is out and drivers/source is out.
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So how do you like your Nexus S vs Vibrant...How about a comparison?
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The nexus s is identical to the vibrant, but it has what everyone wants from their vibrant a good camera even in low light but with flash, and a new os : gingerbread 2.3, in hardware specs its almost identical, software and flash is where it gets better than the vibrant
Dont have one because the only thing it has over the Vibrant that i care about is Gingerbread. The camera flash isnt a big deal to me.
So far so good.
JIT actually works on GB quadrant CPU score is now on par with snapdragon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9858387&postcount=1
I never had issues really with my vibrant GPS but notices quicker and more accurate locks haven't tested on road yet
Covering the bottom left corner on NS doesn't cause signal drop
Like the all around look of the NS doesn't have the cheap looking chrome the vibrant has and no more tmobile or samsung on the front just all black
and also has a rounder look making it look slightly smaller and more sleek along with curve glass
Took some getting use to unlocking and gaining root access but managed and also got clockwork recovery image flashed
Gingerbread is just fast and really snappy
that's about it for now
nothing really stands out in WOW factor its pretty much a vibrant with Google support.. And hopefully they port gingerbread to vibrant and hopefully its optimized to take full advantage of JIT because it makes a difference
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Tested on road and is very accurate and didn't run into any lost or spotty signal while navigating.
Probably due to the fact that they changed the cell and GPS antenna so they no longer interfere with one another like on my vibrant
Well my vibrants gps is perfect locks within 5 secs accurate compass works correctly and with the new google maps its faster, my vibrant being made recently 10-20 came with preinstalled ji6 which does fix the gps problems, as of now im happy with the vibrant just gonna wait till ota froyo comes which should be really soon, im done flashing custom roms they either made my gps worse or messed up my haptic vibrations ended up exchanging so many times at the tmobile store lol i took full advantage of my 14 day period i think i exchanged 2 vibrants got a G2 hated the G2 so horrible and back to another vibrant. Only thing the nexus really has over the vibrant for me is the flash and gingerbread, but i dont want gingerbread badly enough to sell my brand new vibrant due to froyo coming soon and theres no huge difference between 2.2 and 2.3 compared to 2.1 to 2.2
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So how do you like your Nexus S vs Vibrant...How about a comparison?
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Just got my Nexus S. The final straw for me was the fact that the official Samsung twitter is now saying that they "cannot pinpoint a date" for 2.2, yet they had previously been saying "by the end of the year." So they should be able to at least say by the 31st unless they were lying earlier. I have lost faith in them and will never buy a Samsung phone again unless it is a situation like the Nexus where they are not involved with OS/software.
Anyways, it is what you would expect. Basically a Galaxy S except without Samsung tainting the software and no restrictions of any kind. Samsung makes great hardware but, damn, they suck when it comes to supporting existing customers and software engineering. The camera is nice, though I hope that they add in support for HD video recording (which I'm sure it is capable of). Everything I have tried seems to be very fast and well optimized. I also like the small interface changes in 2.3. The phone actually feels a little heavier/thicker than the Vibrant to me, though it isn't in a bad way like the MT4G (which is ugly, too, IMO). External styling seems nice though not much different.
I'm happy. I got what I wanted: unmodified/unrestricted Android and not waiting forever (if ever) for updates.
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So far so good.
JIT actually works on GB quadrant CPU score is now on par with snapdragon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9858387&postcount=1
I never had issues really with my vibrant GPS but notices quicker and more accurate locks haven't tested on road yet
Covering the bottom left corner on NS doesn't cause signal drop
Like the all around look of the NS doesn't have the cheap looking chrome the vibrant has and no more tmobile or samsung on the front just all black
and also has a rounder look making it look slightly smaller and more sleek along with curve glass
Took some getting use to unlocking and gaining root access but managed and also got clockwork recovery image flashed
Gingerbread is just fast and really snappy
that's about it for now
nothing really stands out in WOW factor its pretty much a vibrant with Google support.. And hopefully they port gingerbread to vibrant and hopefully its optimized to take full advantage of JIT because it makes a difference
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Interesting the 3D doesn't score as well as the Galaxy S....
It also has relatively slow IO considering its EXT4 partitions.
edit: i guess the NS has an option that slowed the IO down, devs have 'fixed' it and its performing as you would expect..
Also think maybe its just a 2.3 problem with apps maybe causing the 3d scores? well see as time progresses.
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The nexus s is identical to the vibrant, but it has what everyone wants from their vibrant a good camera even in low light but with flash, and a new os : gingerbread 2.3, in hardware specs its almost identical, software and flash is where it gets better than the vibrant
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the nexus s is NOT identical to the vibrant. i'm just saying.
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Interesting the 3D doesn't score as well as the Galaxy S....
It also has relatively slow IO considering its EXT4 partitions.
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Supercurio found that they missed a mounting option he already released a voodoo kernel that fixes it
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The camera is nice, though I hope that they add in support for HD video recording (which I'm sure it is capable of).
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I hate to break it to you, but that's a hardware limitation. They may be able to add 720p recording at something less than 30fps, but that's the best you can hope for.
http://twitter.com/supercurio/status/15023985871814656
@dnaltews Is VIdeo Capture 480p choice due to WebM codec limitations on this SoC? software compressor Maybe? @kangsterizer
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@supercurio clock rate limitation of the SoC. Galaxy uses an external image processing part as a work around. Not enough PCB space in N.S.
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I hate to break it to you, but that's a hardware limitation. They may be able to add 720p recording at something less than 30fps, but that's the best you can hope for.
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I don't fully understand what is being said in that twitter reply... so there is a hardware difference between the Vibrant and Nexus S that prevents HD recording? Seems strange that Google would downgrade the hardware in the S. Then again, they took out the SD slot.
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I don't fully understand what is being said in that twitter reply... so there is a hardware difference between the Vibrant and Nexus S that prevents HD recording? Seems strange that Google would downgrade the hardware in the S. Then again, they took out the SD slot.
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Basically, the Vibrant had an extra chip that assisted with video recording. There wasn't room for it in the Nexus S, so it won't be able to do 720p.
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The nexus s is identical to the vibrant, but it has what everyone wants from their vibrant a good camera even in low light but with flash, and a new os : gingerbread 2.3, in hardware specs its almost identical, software and flash is where it gets better than the vibrant
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You don't quite grasp the meaning of the word "identical," do ya?
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Won't do 720p? We'll see.
Either way, the solid feel of the Nexus S makes the Vibrant feel so last year. The Nexus S is the most solid phone I've ever held.
Other than that, it FLIES out of the box. Oh and Gingerbread is hawttttttttttt
Don't say one negative thing about the Nexus S until you go personally hold it. You'll probably end up buying it within 3 seconds of grasping it's awesomeness first hand.
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Won't do 720p? We'll see.
Either way, the solid feel of the Nexus S makes the Vibrant feel so last year. The Nexus S is the most solid phone I've ever held.
Other than that, it FLIES out of the box. Oh and Gingerbread is hawttttttttttt
Don't say one negative thing about the Nexus S until you go personally hold it. You'll probably end up buying it within 3 seconds of grasping it's awesomeness first hand.
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I held one. See sigtag. Samaung build quality is nothing to rave about. NS feela cheepee than an HTC aria, and the only thing not last year about this phone is the os... At least for a couple of weeks.
Can care less about this phone. I want a 2.2 update for the one I paid for.
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Won't do 720p? We'll see.
Either way, the solid feel of the Nexus S makes the Vibrant feel so last year. The Nexus S is the most solid phone I've ever held.
Other than that, it FLIES out of the box. Oh and Gingerbread is hawttttttttttt
Don't say one negative thing about the Nexus S until you go personally hold it. You'll probably end up buying it within 3 seconds of grasping it's awesomeness first hand.
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Appreciate the enthusiasm but that's a bit of an exaggeration, no?
From the Nexus S forums there seems to be a few people that aren't all that happy with their phones. Various FC's, spotty GPS, poor call quality. I'm seeing more complaints that I thought I would have.
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From the Nexus S forums there seems to be a few people that aren't all that happy with their phones. Various FC's, spotty GPS, poor call quality. I'm seeing more complaints that I thought I would have.
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Are you unaware of the season? I know people expect their GPS to work underground but it doesn't ALWAYS work. That and Nexus owners have this sense of entitlement and ***** at the slightest problem as if battery pack just blew up when the battery meter jumps from 100 to 97 fresh off of the charger.
Thank Google for the FC's and poor call quality. Google has some type of noise compression that's software based. Of course, they're controlling the software which means it's supposed to be 100% awesome 100% of the time.
I held one in best buy, and while it is nicer then vibrant, its still nothing special. Gingerbread sucks, I have all gingerbread I need on my vibrant already, I don't really care about game optimization which was the main focus on Ginger. For me its a 50/50 betweeen upgrade and downgrade, the only problem is that its almost 600 bucks....
Hardware let me down, software let me down, maybe developers will surprise me.
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Appreciate the enthusiasm but that's a bit of an exaggeration, no?
From the Nexus S forums there seems to be a few people that aren't all that happy with their phones. Various FC's, spotty GPS, poor call quality. I'm seeing more complaints that I thought I would have.
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Yea might have FC but thats because software isn't working with 2.3 and needs to be updated. This is the developers responsibility not Google...Gingerbread is perfect and run absolutely fine.
Also FYI you will always find people complaining about one thing or another doesn't matter how revolutionary and stable a product is...even more so when you dont actually have hands on experience and seems to be looking for as much negative things possible to justify your decision on not getting it
Give it time apparently cryogen team are working on porting to galaxy s
Also dont think im just trying to justify my purchase and will say anything because this isn't the case i still have my vibrant and have 14 days to return to get my money back....so far im keeping it
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Gingerbread sucks, I have all gingerbread I need on my vibrant already
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LOL gingerbread sucks but yet you want your vibrant to look like it BTW how that JIT optimization doing for you on your Gingerbread themed 2.2 that's running on rfs
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LOL gingerbread sucks but yet you want your vibrant to look like it BTW how that JIT optimization doing for you on your Gingerbread themed 2.2 that's running on rfs
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I wanted to say that Gingerbread has very little to offer. It looks good, it has updated copy/paste, keyboard, and optimization for games. I have all those things and more (due to TouchWiz extras) except for optimization for games.....
And frankly speaking, Nero v1 (obviously with JIT) runs very fast and has zero FC.....and it only gets better day by day.
JIT has nothing to do with NS running a bit faster, its ext4. and even after that people are still reporting "laggy browser" in NS, which is THE ONLY issue I have with Vibrant right now.
So I have to ask... why keep the phone right now? Its obviously really sluggish at most anything it does in regards to the UI. Arent there more 2.3 dual core phone options coming out in the next month or so? Why wait until fall to enjoy your phones dual core power? 2.2 doesnt support it, so shipping it with that is borderline BS if you ask me.
Not to mention AT&T limited the data speeds on it is grounds for a class action.
Seeing that there is a GRHxx build from.atrix dev phones floating around the atrix dev forum, im going to assume that Gingerbread is going to make its way over to the atrix. When? No one knows. But it will and if id have to guess, id say mid year.
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Where'd you get the idea that 2.2 doesn't support multiple cores?
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Where'd you get the idea that 2.2 doesn't support multiple cores?
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Because of the wealth of people who offer answers and have no clue what they're talking about.
The kernel on the Atrix supports multiple cores. Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11586435&postcount=9
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Where'd you get the idea that 2.2 doesn't support multiple cores?
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The amount of misinformation on the atrix is completely insane. Stuff like not using all of the ram, and people thinking one of the cores is useless until 2.3.
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The amount of misinformation on the atrix is completely insane. Stuff like not using all of the ram, and people thinking one of the cores is useless until 2.3.
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That's actually good to know.
I had no idea about the core usage, but then again, the Atrix is my first Android phone...hell, it's my first smartphone, so it's been running great thus far.
I am curious about the RAM now though.
they're just jealous.
Well, it is AT&T we're talking about. But the Atrix is a flagship phone, so it could go either way. The fact that it didn't ship with Gingerbread is a bit disheartening, though. Here's hoping we see it before Ice Cream.
You wont taste icecream gingerbread mabey icecream Atrix 2 understand marketing.
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You wont taste icecream gingerbread mabey icecream Atrix 2 understand marketing.
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Says the guy who thinks a gyroscope is an important part of phone performance..... Seriously.... i've you have absolutely NOTHING good to say about the Atrix, don't own one, and apparently don't give a crap about it.... why keep trolling the Atrix forums? Besides.... what are the chances that your beloved Nexus S will see the light of Ice Cream? Probably just as likely as the Atrix, or even less so seeing as your Nexus S has half the memory and only a single core processor.
As for the OP.... i'm not sure where you're getting that it's "sluggish at most anything it does in regards to the UI". Even WITH MotoBlur, it's very responsive, and even moreso when using LauncherPro.
And I have yet to see you form a complete and puncuated sentence in all of your rant about gyroscopes and pretty much anything about the Atrix....
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Dude give it up you make a ass hole look good right now #Smh
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Keep it classy.
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they're just jealous.
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I doubt it has much to do with jealousy. I'm reminded of Agent K's (Tommy Lee Jones) quote from Men in Black:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119654/quotes said:
Edwards: Why the big secret? People are smart. They can handle it.
Kay: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
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The amount of misinformation on the atrix is completely insane. Stuff like not using all of the ram, and people thinking one of the cores is useless until 2.3.
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Actually, a lot of the people think that one of the cores is useless until 2.4. Though, to be fair, 2.4 will supposedly use the Tegra 2 MUCH better than 2.3.
According to that article that examined Froyo update times, Motorola was the fastest on average getting a Froyo update to market among manufacturers, and AT&T was the slowest among carriers, so between the two, I suspect we'll see Gingerbread in no worse a timeframe than average, hopefully better.
I'm almost positive HTC beat motorola in terms of OS updates.
Phones going back for a few main reasons:
No HSUPA support. Ridiculous.
Cant produce the color YELLOW... which is simply unacceptable.
Dock limited in resolution so it looks like crap on my LCD monitor.
UI is sluggish, very sluggish. It cant even handle the beautiful widgets animation or the animated gingerbread docks.
Guess ill wait for the Galaxy S 2.
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Phones going back for a few main reasons:
No HSUPA support. Ridiculous.
Cant produce the color YELLOW... which is simply unacceptable.
Dock limited in resolution so it looks like crap on my LCD monitor.
UI is sluggish, very sluggish. It cant even handle the beautiful widgets animation or the animated gingerbread docks.
Guess ill wait for the Galaxy S 2.
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Wow yours can't? I'm running a lot of programs in the background, streaming HD video from YouTube, and countless other things and I get no lag whatsoever.
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psufan5 said:
Phones going back for a few main reasons:
No HSUPA support. Ridiculous.
Cant produce the color YELLOW... which is simply unacceptable.
Dock limited in resolution so it looks like crap on my LCD monitor.
UI is sluggish, very sluggish. It cant even handle the beautiful widgets animation or the animated gingerbread docks.
Guess ill wait for the Galaxy S 2.
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I don't have my atrix yet, but from what I've read so far, coupled with common sense, I'd say:
- HSUPA is only supported for iPhone on AT&T. It is a network issue, not a phone issue.
- I am pretty sure it can. Maybe not the exact hue of yellow that you would like, but I would be very surprised otherwise.
- Isn't the dock putting out in HD or qHD? Should be good enough... also, check your settings.
- As mentioned many times across this forum, the UI seems to be quite fast. As you'd expect from a dual core 1GHz processor with kick-ass mobile GPU. It is possible, though, that some apps/widgets are not 100% compatible with it.
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I don't have my atrix yet, but from what I've read so far, coupled with common sense, I'd say:
- HSUPA is only supported for iPhone on AT&T. It is a network issue, not a phone issue.
- I am pretty sure it can. Maybe not the exact hue of yellow that you would like, but I would be very surprised otherwise.
- Isn't the dock putting out in HD or qHD? Should be good enough... also, check your settings.
- As mentioned many times across this forum, the UI seems to be quite fast. As you'd expect from a dual core 1GHz processor with kick-ass mobile GPU. It is possible, though, that some apps/widgets are not 100% compatible with it. Run the quadrant 2D benchmark. You will get around 14fps which in turn, is the fps you will get on your UI. captivate for me gets 24ish.
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HSUPA is a modem issue - if we could hack the boot loader, we could fix it... buuuuuuttt we cant.
The phone cant do yellow, it does brown. Go to wikipedia and scroll down to the actual color of html yellow. Put it next to another phone. Its Gold, not yellow. Might not seem like much but when you put all the other colors in the mix... most of them are way off.
The UI is anything BUT fast. I guess coming from a rom'd captivate I am spoiled. Imagine a phone running live wallpaper without getting choppy. This phone cant do it. It cant even handle beautiful widgets animation when it rains. You are pretty bias about it really, but thats ok. Thats why its the atrix board. Im a dose of reality
So..... again, how exactly do you know that the much-to-be-pointless animated weather widget isn't being choppy on the Atrix due to a software issue regarding the widget itself? You seriously need an animation to tell you it's raining?
I'm also fairly certain i've read in another thread that it is NOT an issue with the phone itself that HSUPA is not working... that someone i believe at AT&T mentioned it is so far only working with the iPhone on THEIR end, and that it should be fixed sometime soon.
And i have no idea what monitor you are using.... not that it matters, but i don't even have the dock... just plugged the phone into our 1080p HDTV using the supplied Micro-HDMI cable (or whichever it is.... mini... micro.... never can tell anymore, really).... and it looks just fine.... and playing a standard definition video (624x352 to be exact. Possibly less-than-standard definition) which looked not really any different than if i were playing it on my computer. I haven't tried hooking it up directly to my monitor since i don't really feel like disconnecting my PS3 right now.... but if i had to guess, if you're talking about an actual PC monitor.... have you ever thought that maybe something with the monitor scaling itself is causing it to not look the way it should?
Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I've had a nexus s and it does not lag at all, neither does my atrix. Single core or dual core it doesn't seem to make a difference to me. In my experience the atrix has better battery life. As far as the screens go that's a matter of opinion, the samoled seems more vibrant but is utterly useless in sunlight. As much as I hate BLUR, I chose the atrix over the nexus s and once we have an AOSP Rom I will have no regrets whatsoever.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I had the nexus s, it wasn't much of an improvement over my custom rommed Captivate, so I took it back. I was also looking forward to the Galaxy S2's release in America, until I got Gingerbread on my Atrix. There is no way the GS2 will be a substantial improvement over my Atrix now.
The Motorola Atrix was voted as the best phone at CES, and with Gingerbread it lives up to those accolades. Froyo and the ridiculous price of the lapdock killed this phone's initial release.
Take a look at the top results on Smartbench 2011, there is a reason Samsung delayed the GS2's release and overclocked it to 1.2ghz. Once the Atrix gets overclocked to 1.5ghz, those top results will change.
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Once the Atrix gets overclocked to 1.5ghz, those top results will change.
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So will the battery life lol
Also, does the lack of NEON support make a difference for the average user?
EDIT: reread my post, thought I didn't include the question, reread it again, realized I did.
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Also, does the lack of NEON support make a difference for the average user?
EDIT: reread my post, thought I didn't include the question, reread it again, realized I did.
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I was worried about lack of neon. But honestly it doesn't even matter at this point in time, apps don't even come close to making neon cpu make any difference whatsoever.
By the way, just got an atrix today! Found craigslist superb deal.
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I was worried about lack of neon. But honestly it doesn't even matter at this point in time, apps don't even come close to making neon cpu make any difference whatsoever.
By the way, just got an atrix today! Found craigslist superb deal.
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If you want to play normal or hi profile x264 it does.
Really annoying to have to re-encode to baseline x264. For xxxx's sake this phone can push 3D pixels like Samurai Vengeance II but can't handle HD video encoding, WTF.
I had nexus so and atrix together for two weeks. There is major performance difference between the two. Nexus s's 512 mb ram was the deal breaker for me, it was not enough. I think I'm spoiled by the 1gb ram.
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If you want to play normal or hi profile x264 it does.
Really annoying to have to re-encode to baseline x264. For xxxx's sake this phone can push 3D pixels like Samurai Vengeance II but can't handle HD video encoding, WTF.
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Saw a topic where someone played it with gingerbread, so no.
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I really like my Atrix, but I would wait and see what the next Nexus phone will bring.
Atrix ftw, i think its best phone so far for me
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Saw a topic where someone played it with gingerbread, so no.
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well thats welcome news. I'll do some research. A really time consuming thing to investigate (encode, copy to phone, see if it plays, rinse and repeat)
I own both and I prefer the Atrix.
With an AOSP ROM this phone will scream.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I would stay away from the Nexus S. Ya, it's Raw Goog but the sub-par RAM, single core chip and cheap plastic construction just aren't worth it especially on a new contract.
I'm loving my Atrix on GB, rooted, de-blurred (Titanium freeze) and running Go Launcher EX. I experience no lag, web browser is lighting fast, GPS is the best I've experienced from a phone. That's my experience and opinion. Considering the timing of your upgrade I would suggest checking the SG2 out as it may be more to your liking. Some people like Sammy HW some don't (I personally hate it, especially their damn "Chin" design philosophy).
That said, you cannot go wrong with the Atrix, it's an excellent phone. I traded in my Inspire 4G at a loss and don't regret my decision one bit.
Oh, and DL/UL speed in Houston, TX I've been averaging 3.5mb down (6 max) and 1.3mb up (2.1 max). Inspire 4G never made it over 2.5 down (1 Ghz. w/ 768mb RAM). Atrix is on par with my friend's EVO 4G (Sprint WiMax, he avgs 2-3 but has a max he's gotten of 7 once) and another friend's T-Bolt (Verizon LTE, 5-6 avg and a max of 8). And yes processor and RAM do affect your up/down as it's partially determined by the amount of data your phone can process, another reason to stay away from the S at this point.
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well thats welcome news. I'll do some research. A really time consuming thing to investigate (encode, copy to phone, see if it plays, rinse and repeat)
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Might have been my thread. I apologize, but I was wrong. Even tough performance has increased substantially (from 8-10 fps to an average of 24) when playing high profile h.264, it still isnt perfectly smooth and, for some reason, the episodes of Game of Thrones were mute for me, which indicates a continuing lack of support to audio codecs. After converting it with the Handbrake method, it worked flawlessly.
@OP
The Atrix and the SGS2 have different offerings. SGS2 has a standardly overclocked processor, a bigger, brighter screen, less weight, and a GPU accelerated browser. The Atrix has a much higher pixel density, better battery life, and a specialized game store (Nvidia Tegra Zone which, despite the lack of titles in numbers, the ones it DOES have possess highly improved graphics over standard versions).
And for many of us, it has a lapdock, which is a perfect netbook replacement if all you do is work with word, excel, and light web browsing, being lighter and having better battery life than many netbooks. Its also fun like hell to play at customizing it
I like the overall build with the Motorola Atrix, but without the GPU accelerated and NEON support, would I be at a significant hardware disadvantage for everyday use? I feel I wouldn't. Also, any complaints about the screen?
Okay. Opera provides a gpu accelerated browser that is blazing fast. The screen is really nice, but you may notice grainy greens.
Edit: oh, neon support isn't an issue, at least for me. Most of my videos can be played using moboplayer.
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The atrix also is not sized like a giant brick but weighing like a feather toy (the #1 reason I didn't go for the SGS2). Form factor wins for me. Not to mention in Australia, atrix is 150-200 dollars cheaper.
I would say though with froyo it is noticeably inferior. But that's no longer an issue, whether stock or unlock BL/custom ROM.
If you want a big screen and fast phone....sgs2, if you want sething new and try some mods atrix, if yu are a hard modder HD2
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Now that there's actual photos of the AT&T galaxy family, would anyone consider it a superior choice? I kinda like the idea of a physical keyboard but I'm used to portrait like on my blackberry.
Hey guys, i want to hear your opinions
Im a Samsung Vibrant user, and im very happy with my phone, but lately, i have been considering upgrading to a dual core phone because im starting to feel my phone a little laggy. I have my Vibrant updated to ICS, and it runs pretty good (better than with CM7 or any GB rom made for the Vibrant), but it still feels a little laggy. I have been considering the Atrix as a choice to upgrade, but im not so sure if its worth the upgrade.
I have seen tons of videos on YouTube, but all of them are reviewing the Atrix with Froyo, and i consider Froyo to be VERY slow and laggy compared to GB or ICS. I have also seen a few comparison with other devices like the SGS2, but again, all of them are comparing a device using Froyo with one using GB, so its not fair.
I wan't to hear from you guys in your experience:
1) How is the overall daily experience with the Atrix? Lagless? (On GB and on ICS please)
2) How active is the deving community for the Atrix 4G?
3) How long the battery lasts on the Atrix?
4) How far is ICS deved for the Atrix right now? Is it fully functional? Is it good enough to use it as a daily driver? The Vibrant have an almost fully working ICS. Everything works on the Vibrant, even some things that doesn't work well on GB (Lol).
5) You guys think its worth the upgrade? Or maybe should i go for something else?
What im looking for: SMOOTH AS SILK daily experience. (That's why im looking for dual core devices) 0 Lag. (i know its impossible 0, but you know what i mean ). Good battery life. Nice screen (i know it won't be better than the Vibrant's SUPER AMOLED screen, but im willing to give it up just for the sake of smoothness).
Give me your opinions guys. Thanks for reading and expressing your opinions! Everyone's opinion counts!
We have several threads about this already, I say wait for the galaxy 3
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The Atrix 4G is a great phone, thats my personal opinion. The battery life is amazing, lag is non-existent on all the CM7 based ROMS I've used (Using Neutrino EE for the time being) ICS is not fully functional yet - but will be in time. Most the questions you are asking could be answered by reading some of the threads here. It all boils down to personal preference...
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We have several threads about this already, I say wait for the galaxy 3
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+1, If I were you, I would wait for galaxy 3. There won't be a stable version of cm9 for the Atrix for quite some time. There's a version of cm9 that someone is working now and it's getting closer and closer to being stable but it won't be any time soon.
Galaxy s3 might be better than atrix
but it will also probably be $300 with 2 year activation when it comes out the first week or so
On the other hand, you can pick up an atrix used no contrct from about $150 to $250 depending where you buy it and in what condition
My stock 2.3.4 rooted debloated atrix running clemsyn's kernel and the 2.3.6 radio is blazing fast, no lag unless I'm doing something super intense, and the battery lasts me from noon til I come home with constant use
I have used a Vibrant AND Captivate, and this phone is in a whole different league. Same screen size much smaller handset, faster processor, way more memory of both kinds, and plenty of stuff to play with [webtop, hdmi out, fingerprint sensor, tegra 2 gpu]
Go for it, there is no better phone really, and it has a notification LED WHICH the galaxy series doesn't have even if it is so expensive.
Gingerbread stock and CM7 are super smooth, no lag.
I don't really have an opinion about ICS. To be honest, I am not really interested in it and will probably stay on the Atrix until my upgrade allows it or something that actually seems like an improvement [half a gigahertz, a few mb of memory, a half inch of screen, those are not true upgrades]
I'd say ---
if you were getting a new 2 year contract, get something else.
If you just want to upgrade the phone you have now, I bet you can find an atrix for $150 on CL, then barter down to $100 -- which is a STEAL for the atrix
The Atrix is a very good device with good battery life and a overall satisfactory user experience. The handset feels solid and GB is smooth with many ROM's to choose from. But like others had stated, there are better things out right now. I would look elsewhere for something newer with guaranteed ICS in the near future. You have the Skyrocket, Galaxy Note, and others to look at.
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Thanks for all your opinions guys! Yeah, i agree that the SGS3 will be a way better option, but its waay more expensive and i can't afford it. Im buying the phone used.
So the daily experience with the Atrix is pretty smooth eh? How about how easily can i brick the Atrix flashing roms?
Also, i would like to hear more opinions
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Bricking the Atrix is as risky as any other device when using CWM, RSDLite is an entirely different (and imho, most people should only use to unlock bootloader).
The only thing that brick an Atrix is the user itself, when they don't read everything or take shortcuts. There is a one click root and one click unlock available. How much easier do you want it. Most of the brick happens when they flash a ROM without unlocking the bootloader, start the process on a low battery, or try to revert back to Froyo from GB which is not possible once you are on GB. When you do this its an automatic brick. But as long as you follow instruction to the letter, it's easy and safe. Even using RSDLite is very easy, again, when you follow the instructions.
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Also once you have ROM manager installed and ROMracer over it. Switching ROMs is very easy. I tried DarkSide,Neutrino, Redpill and Redpill Hybrid with no issues, just remember to do a full wipe in between.
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The Atrix is my first smartphone I've had, but I did a ton of research before picking it up. It's been about 6 months now that I've had it, and from all the complaints that I've heard from others of nearly all of other phones (with the exception of a few here and there), it sounds like I made the best choice I could in getting the Atrix.
Runs everything flawlessly. Tons of memory. 32GB expansion slot. I've never come across an app that the phone couldn't run. and on top of all that, modded, this thing is essentially unstoppable and I don't think any phone even comes close to comparing once it's modded.
1) How is the overall daily experience with the Atrix? Lagless? (On GB and on ICS please)
I don't have any experience with ICS, but on GB, it was barely noticable.
2) How active is the deving community for the Atrix 4G?
The dev's are basically working around the clock, and the options of modding are seemingly endless.
3) How long the battery lasts on the Atrix?
With background data on and slight-to-moderate use, about 24 hours. Without background data on and slight-to-moderate use, 45-50 hours.
4) How far is ICS deved for the Atrix right now? Is it fully functional? Is it good enough to use it as a daily driver? The Vibrant have an almost fully working ICS. Everything works on the Vibrant, even some things that doesn't work well on GB (Lol).
ICS is definitely well on it's way, and everyday it seems to get picked apart more and more by devs.
5) You guys think its worth the upgrade? Or maybe should i go for something else?
Absolutely go with the Atrix. It's about as smooth as you can get. With Cyanogen, I've never had anything even slightly slow down.
Coming from the Vibrant/T-Mobile, the GPS works! The phone is fast because of dual core goodness. Phone call quality is ok though. Dual core plus custom ROM equal fast! You can't go wrong with the galaxy s 2 as well. If you can find this for $150, do it!
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Oh guys, im about to go with the Atrix, seems to be a pretty good phone.
What about the LG Optimus G2X?? Have anyone had any experience with this phone??
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Oh guys, im about to go with the Atrix, seems to be a pretty good phone.
What about the LG Optimus G2X?? Have anyone had any experience with this phone??
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NOOOOOOOO DO NOT go with the G2X. A quick google search will detail you the plethora of issues that phone has had since it's launch, relaunch, and re-relaunch.
Between the two, go with the Atrix. IMO.
Don't get this phone. Get a phone that will be supported for a while. Moto ditched this phone like a red headed step child.
Do some research to find what phones are the "flagships" of the carriers/manufacturers
Why haven't anybody talk about the Tegra 2? lol, Is a powerful one in front of other phones.
Theres always something new and faster comming out. It depends what you are gonna use the phone mainly for, gamming, business, or just your basic personal use. The atrix is a good phone that someone can use it for a long time, for everything. There are many roms to choose from. I love the phone. I payed .01 cent with a renewed contract. ( got me and the wife one. ( refurb) Its alot better than my old aria. The screen isnt too damn big, yet it isnt too small. It suports flash, which the aria didnt. its a dual core, which alot of phones out there are not, for a good price.
It depends how much you can afford too. the most expensive phone isnt always the best. ( hell look at the iphone, its so over rated.)
and the atrix is very easy to unlock, etc
Go to your local store and check out the phones there. Thats what i do before i buy one, atrix has a good feel in your hand. better with an otterbox case too.
Good Luck.
First of all, if u love the brand of Motorola, you can choose the Atrix, because the Crystal Talk can make the phonecall much more clear, and also the 1880ma battery is monster enough for your daily using.
But you have to know that the most of the moto-phones cannot get a rapid or fresh official support, so the ICS we now could only rely on the CM-Dev, but happily we got MIUI support by MIUI.us for the alpha ROM.
The Atrix has a duel-core of tegra II, so I havn't got any lag in either offical rom or the third firmware ROM.
Although we don't have a huge number of users than Galaxy serial, but the dev-s are still working hard for us, that would be very kind of them.
So, Atrix, or not...
It all depends on U.
Good luck...
One thing that I like about the Atrix is the screen resolution compared to other smartphones such as GS2. The resolution for GS2 is 480X800 while the Atrix's resolution is much higher, 540X960. There are some games that take advantage of high resolution such as Plants vs Zombies HD and a few other games and the graphics look amazing.
Hello everybody,
Im planning on purchasing the atrix only for the finger print security feature. Do you think its a good move. Im currently using samsung galaxy W.
Does it have a functional CM9 with camera and finger print scanner. Is it easy to use or just an over hyped feature?
Hows the battery life?
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Sensor is easy to use but you still have to press and then swipe. I am currently using it on CM7. I am not sure if it is working on CM9.
IMO, this phone isn't worth a penny now. You should look into a more recent phone that already has ics.
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IMO, this phone isn't worth a penny now. You should look into a more recent phone that already has ics.
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But isnt this the only phone with a finger print sensor? I love the galaxy nexus but the hardware on atrix seems good enough combined with this unique security feature.
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But isnt this the only phone with a finger print sensor? I love the galaxy nexus but the hardware on atrix seems good enough combined with this unique security feature.
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If you are 100% sure that you want a phone with a finger print sensor then yes, the Atrix is the only one. I personally find the screen size of the Atrix which is 4 inches too small nowadays. The CPU quickly overheats even with browsing the internet or watching a video. Yes, the 1GB of ram and the dual core are nice but I would personally go with the galaxy nexus since you will be getting Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) that Google just announced a few days ago.
She has been kicking butt.
I'm not sure why "Atrix_Owner" is being so negitive about the Atrix, unless there has been some trouble.
The specs on the phone are decent, and it has been very responsive. At the moment CM7 is still far more tested than 9, and If you want proper support for the array of docking accessories, I would suggest a blur rom (I have reverted to using NottachTrix).
I would say if it fits your budget and you are wanting a print scanner, it is well worth it. If nothing else, the battery life is pretty amazing once you are away from a stock rom. Just make sure to search the forums for instructions on battery calibration.
Atrix is a good buy considering price / performance ratio and its unique features.
This phone is really good, and there are many cm7 based roms with working fingerprint. If Motorola honours its commitment to give us ics, then we'll have really good cm9 roms as well. I do hope the ics drivers carry over to jelly bean as well, since I highly doubt Motorola will provide an update for that once its released.
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i have dual booted my atrix and it runs both the roms with zero lag !!
so hardware-wise you're not falling behind unless you want a quad core !
buying it now totally depends at the price you would be getting it !
also battery life and audio quality is excellent on this device !
still one of my favourite devices :good:
If you get the phone for less than $50, go for it. Otherwise...get a flagship phone.
I like the Atrix because of the scanner lock, I dont think it is a feature that most people use or need but for me it is a reason I am keeping my phone. If I want to surf the web or watch a movie I use my Xoom.
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Thanks alot guys for the help and your advises. Its always good to recieve feedback from actual users of the phone.
Brand new costs 400 usd but there is a guy selling a sealed brand new piece for 265. I guess id go for it.
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I have 2 atrixes. They are good phones for the price. I lucked out I think and got them both at 150 a piece used. Just found out my warranty is good on both still and sent one back to motor( there latest update messed it all up). If u want to spend more money you can get something better but in my opinion you get plenty bang for your buck
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If you are 100% sure that you want a phone with a finger print sensor then yes, the Atrix is the only one. I personally find the screen size of the Atrix which is 4 inches too small nowadays. The CPU quickly overheats even with browsing the internet or watching a video. Yes, the 1GB of ram and the dual core are nice but I would personally go with the galaxy nexus since you will be getting Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) that Google just announced a few days ago.
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Might as well wait for the Note 2 if you are going to waste money on a GNX.
ICS is overrated anyway for all the hoopla it gets.
Basically like when people go so excited over GB. *yawn*
I have 1 week with a used atrix (preview owner of a xperia play) i was always a sony fan but seen the screen of the atrix i have never seen any xperia (even the new ones) with a screen so nice.
If you check specs on new phones this one is on the top. Maybe the battery is weak (if you use it for intense gaming) .
ICS? i liked it on tablet but not on my phone. I own a motorola xoom and it was a relif when ICS came because it was made for table but on phones it only adds few changes worth the upgrade. Motoblur got it right with gingerbread. ICS looks to black and bland :S
The phone is pretty good if you get it REALLY cheap.
It has some hardware features which I adore such as dedicated HDMI port, the fingerprint scanner and a pretty decent battery but the tegra 2 chipset is just weak, unless you're using CM7 you'll have animation lag and the developers community is rather dedicated but relatively tiny compared to the flagship devices from google, samsung and HTC.
If you're just looking for great performance, ROM stability and variety
get a nexus or S3, the smoothness and the ROM variety is remarkable.
I purchased my atrix for the webtop. I really hoped that it would be something I could take for some light web browsing and note taking and it was a horrible, laggy and broken experience.
Only now with a relatively stable CM7 the webtop experience is getting pretty good but instead of utilizing the full screen resolution, it simply mirrors the phone with a sub-par resolution.
Current CM9 roms can't record video, have a really unstable cam and often have graphic related issues which are not in any way a developer's fault since they have to manage without any moto libraries for the ICS.
Motorola promised ICS sometime in Q3, which means it wont be available until the last day of September and I'm being optimistic.
The device is not bad. I've seen so much worse, however it's not a middle range or a cheap device. It might be more than a year old but it's still a flagship.
I personally feel offended that my old Samsung captivate has a smooth, fast fully functional ICS that works heaps faster than my CM7 atrix.
I really hope that sometime later this year I'll take my words back, but so far I can't recommend the device as it is.
andrew.cambridge said:
If you get the phone for less than $50, go for it. Otherwise...get a flagship phone.
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Somebody could offer me $200 for my Atrix and I still wouldn't sell it. This may be the first smartphone that I may NEVER sell. (I've owned close to 20 of them too).
Currently I just got a SGSII, and I keep putting my SIM back in my Atrix since there's too many things that don't work properly on the SGSII. For example text to fit (reflow or double tap manually doesn't work on the default browser) is just one issue. There's others.
IDK I keep looking over @ my SGSII and wondering if I may just sell it off to my friend willing to buy it. If i keep it, it will probably be for a few months. Sad that my Atrix without ICS does more than my SGSII with ICS. Really the only thing that I like about the SGSII is the screen. Yeah it really is that good, but the flaws are kinda bringing it down.
@OP yeah get the Atrix, IMHO $300 or less (being dead serious about that price) is still worth it for this phone... (and yes battery life is amazing)
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Well..
Atrix 4G's fingerprint security feature is
very cool.
But There are only unoffical CM9 and it has lots of problem.
You should wait until 3Q for offical ICS.
(This is plan for U.S)
So, it is better to do not buy Atrix 4G for
ICS
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I have a contract coming to an end and started looking around for a new phone. Did some research on ICS and found networks can detect tethering on ICS but not on Gingerbread.
Looking at new phones, Sony have nothing of interest. Why buy a Nexus with only 16Gb of storage? Galaxy S3 is too big. I love HTC phones but all the new HTCs are rubbish (like the Nexus, never buy an android phone without an sd card slot!). And I don't do Apple, I'm no fruit muncher.
Then I came across the Atrix. Brand new, unused, in box, 150. Webtop, hdmi, dual core, bluetooth keyboard/mouse, docks with full size usb sockets, takes 64gb sd card, mugen battery. Great custom ROMs, webtops etc. Name one new phone that does all of that!!
OK, at the moment it is gingerbread only, but Motorola will release ICS for ATT version later this year and there will be some good custom ROMs after that.
I jumped at the chance to own this android icon.
At $150 or 150 €, the Atrix is still a very interesting buy...