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Discussion thread: "Paid apps" are here!!!

I know the android market will start charging next week and I understand some apps have an expiration date on them and eventually they will expire. So this may not work for those apps and I could be totally wrong in my theory.
I'm going to try not updating my apps for a month or so because I fear some of the apps that were meant to be free the developer may decide to start charging and with an update put an expiration date on that app.
I know one app did this already. I forgot the name but it had the planet saturn as the icon and it was meant to be free but the developer decided to start charging and make it a demo version with an update. He got flamed in the comments and eventually took his app down.
Call me cheap but about 90% of the apps I have are not worth paying for but they are nice to have.
PLEASE POST ANY APPS THAT HAS STARTED CHARGING WITH AN UPDATE OR HAS TURNED INTO A TRIAL VERSION WITH AN UPDATE.
NOTE: I HAVE NOT TRIED SOME OF THESE APPS TO CONFIRM THE CHANGE. I AM SIMPLY GOING BASED OFF OF THE POSTS. PLEASE NOTIFY OF CORRECTIONS.
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Force Ring (If you still have it keep it. Is not look for stats555's sig.)
SMS Commander (The original app is dead. The developer has put the new app in the market. Dont uninstall the original.)
Park Mark (It was originally updated to a demo and now the words demo have been removed from the description. I don't know if it is a demo or not anymore. Keep pre demo.)
Dog Catcher Beta (If you downloaded it before you had to pay for it... there is no prompt to pay for it yet.)
World Clock (is now a trial version. Keep original don't update)
Advanced Task Manager (Is now gone from the market. You have to pay for the new version.)
Quickoffice (Also gone from the market.)
1 click direction (Is now a paid app. I don't think the new app has any changes except now its $2.99)

force ring is what you lost
i lost it too
good idea
keep us updated

drewfinkel said:
force ring is what you lost
i lost it too
good idea
keep us updated
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Ahh yes. It let you raise and lower your phone volume via sms. Kind of like sms commander.
Will do.

As soon as someone upgrades an app that adds an expiration date, they should mention it here.
Some of us don't mind having an older version for free
Depending on the app though. Some i'd pay for.

topdnbass said:
As soon as someone upgrades an app that adds an expiration date, they should mention it here.
Some of us don't mind having an older version for free
Depending on the app though. Some i'd pay for.
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Thats a good Idea and Ill try to keep the list updated on the original post. Any app that starts charging or any app that turns in to a trial version with an update we should include.

drewfinkel said:
force ring is what you lost
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I will keep force ring in my signature, will not update it as its very popular so if you need it grab it anytime.

stats555 said:
I will keep force ring in my signature, will not update it as its very popular so if you need it grab it anytime.
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Thanks for that.

If you have and use the app, it's obviously worth paying for.
The question is, how much is it worth If it's something valuable enough to keep on your phone, I'd think 99 cents is more than fair.

ParkMark & Geodroid
When I was browsing in the Market 12 hours ago I saw 'ParkMark Demo' instead of 'ParkMark'. I read the description and there was told about trail expires on march, 1st. When I read the comments the users were disgusted about paying for such an app.
Now I looked at ParkMark again and its name was switched back to 'ParkMark' and there isn't mentioned anything about "trial" in the description.
So it could be they reconisdered and kept ParkMark free or they hided every information about trial so everybody makes the (hidden trial-) update.
EDIT:
Found this at the developer homepage:
ParkMark (and all applications for the G1) is currently free. The update will be a low cost app once the market gets going and a demo version will be available.
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This is also the developer of the Geodroid -App, which also turned to demo.

MacFloid said:
When I was browsing in the Market 12 hours ago I saw 'ParkMark Demo' instead of 'ParkMark'. I read the description and there was told about trail expires on feb, 31st or march, 31st. When I read the comments the users were disgusted about paying for such an app.
Now I looked at ParkMark again and its name was switched back to 'ParkMark' and there isn't mentioned anything about "trial" in the description.
So it could be they reconisdered and kept ParkMark free or they hided every information about trial so everybody makes the (hidden trial-) update.
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Thats what I was worried about with the apps.

So if we have apps that are currently free&they add a fee to them in the future wed be charged for them even though when we downloaded them ,they were free?

World Clock
World Clock by Thinlet is now a trial.
It was free w/ over 10k downloads but then he/she/they had an update w/o notice of what's changed & that's when people started noticing it was now trial. Weak.

I accidently updated parkmark, indeed it's name on the phone is now ParkMark Demo...kind of deceptive imo :/

It's Park Mark free for me...
Does anyone have the old APK file?

cmavr8, yup, another updated version! seems the maker of parkmark watches out little forum They changed the app description to "This version free forever" "full paid version coming April 1st". So i think we're good for now.

What is the method of extracting the APK file from my phone for an application that i want to save?

As a user, I definitely understand the desire to have all apps be free. But I also know that in order for apps to continue to be developed and improved, there needs to be some sort of motivation to do so. A couple dollars or less is certainly reasonable for good quality apps. As a developer, I can tell you that it takes a lot of time and energy to produce a quality app and there comes a time when it is simply not worth it without some sort of compensation. Remember, developers have lives, families, etc... they don't exist to simply serve the user. That being said, I think that all apps that are already available for free (and are not demo versions) should remain free, and I think most will. At least it's not the Apple App Store, I mean come on all those folks paying for fart machines and other inane apps. I think it's good the Android Market has had some time to get some of those types of apps out of the way for free.
Feel free to download my app, as I will not be charging for it unless I do some major overhaul of new features, which would require me to charge. I don't see that happening, however. Not that I think there is a huge market for my app as it is a specialized tool for a certain industry...

I would hope that a 'new' version is created for the pay version, instead of forcing a paid upgrade. That seems like the solution that would encourage payment for additional "new and improved" features.

Of course. Besides, the terms of the Market require that to be the case.

Hey does anyone have the maverick.apk? I accidentally deleted it from my sd & its not in the market anymore. I looked in stats sig but I couldn't find it there either.

Thinking about offering some space to mirror roms

I really hate these MegaCrap mirrors. So I thought I'd offer to mirror some EVO roms. Perhaps someone can give me an idea of how much bandwidth we'd be talking about per rom?
I have a hosting account with Bluehost with "unlimited" bandwidth and diskspace, though I've never tested them to see what their idea of what unlimited means. I'd be willing to provide mirror space, so long as we're not talking about several terabytes of bandwidth for each rom. The TOS requires that any downloaded files have a link on a webpage hosted on the server, but that should be easy to do.
I think I'd like to limit this to a couple of roms to start with, but PM me if you'd like to be the first to try it out. The files would be stored at http://roms.renoiphone.com, which is a tad ironic, but I have other domains as well if the irony is too much for you.

I have started doing this for some of our dev's here...alone on a few leaks and some WIP ports I have seen a total of 380GB of xfr since 5/1/11. - last month I started doing this for them on the 13th and it was well over 500GB of xfr. Just a heads up from what I have seen...and like he said..I am willing to host roms as well if he isnt available

klept0 said:
I have started doing this for some of our dev's here...alone on a few leaks and some WIP ports I have seen a total of 380GB of xfr since 5/1/11. - last month I started doing this for them on the 13th and it was well over 500GB of xfr. Just a heads up from what I have seen...and like he said..I am willing to host roms as well if he isnt available
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Thanks for information. That's not too bad. I should be able to host a few and see if bluehost squawks about it. I should hope not.

Koush of rom manager and clockworkmod fame has free hosting for rom devs.

tjleeland said:
I have a hosting account with Bluehost with "unlimited" bandwidth and diskspace, though I've never tested them to see what their idea of what unlimited means.
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File sharing/storage is against their TOS, fyi.
tjleeland said:
Thanks for information. That's not too bad. I should be able to host a few and see if bluehost squawks about it. I should hope not.
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Don't host anything popular... too many http connections and they'll shut you down. And it's going to be hella slow transfer rates (they don't make any guarantees about speed) that will be killed at about 10 minutes if the file isn't downloaded fast enough.
You're better off getting setup with someone like http://www.mediafire.com/
Just sayin'
EDIT: Check this out: http://www.dreamhost.com/unlimited.html -- Bluehost has almost an identical stance on everything, they just don't have a nice little article like that on their website; it's buried in their TOS.

Ryjabo that was a great explanation...even more amusing as I work for a webhosting company and we were just talking about the "unlimited" thing yesterday.

Rem3Dy said:
Koush of rom manager and clockworkmod fame has free hosting for rom devs.
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If so, then why do so many developers use these ****ty file sharing services like megaupload? The one I really hate is whichever only allows you to download something like three files a day.

Ryjabo said:
File sharing/storage is against their TOS, fyi.
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Actually, I'm fairly sure you're wrong. I read the ToS before signing up, and I just read it again. The only prohibition is on using the space as online backup:
Backup Storage. Bluehost.com offers its Services to host web sites, not to store data. Using an account as an online storage space for archiving electronic files is prohibited and will result in termination of hosting services without prior notice.​
Of course, you can't "overuse" the service (whatever that means), nor can you post porn, copyrighted material, engage in illegal activities, etc. But if you can find anything that says file sharing is against their ToS, you have a better eye than I do.
Also, my wife has her own Bluehost account that used to host a four-hour podcast every week. Even when it was the number one video gaming podcast in the UK, and hosting her files for iTunes download, we never had speed or throttle issues over the course of more than a year. Again, not 600 KB/sec, but...
I guess it depends you what you call "too popular" or "too many connections." I'm not saying you're wrong that this amount of traffic would cause them to throttle, but I am saying that they're not as bad as you're making them out to be.

klept0 said:
Ryjabo that was a great explanation...even more amusing as I work for a webhosting company and we were just talking about the "unlimited" thing yesterday.
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That makes two of us.

tjleeland said:
Actually, I'm fairly sure you're wrong. I read the ToS before signing up, and I just read it again. The only prohibition is on using the space as online backup
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The space they offer for web hosting is for exactly that: hosting a website. Take up too much space for anything outside of that and they can shut you off.
To be quite honest, I doubt enough people are going to use your mirrors (no offense) to cause any problems for you. I just thought, as someone who has had personal experience with these issues & Bluehost, I should let you know.

I have been shut down by unlimited web hosts for just this reason. The reality is that you need a dedicated server which is at least $100 a month. You might fly under the radar for a while, but in the end they will shut you down.

Host your roms here! Its free and automatically integrates with rom manager. http://t.co/dGRJdMG

indagroove said:
I have been shut down by unlimited web hosts for just this reason. The reality is that you need a dedicated server which is at least $100 a month. You might fly under the radar for a while, but in the end they will shut you down.
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The applicable term to this thread would be "overselling" lol. In the world of hosting there are really three tiers of usertypes. The first is a multimillion/billion dollar company who builds, maintains, upkeeps, etc a huge, usually state-of-the-art building with security, advanced fire suppression systems and electric generator backups. The second kind of user is the much smaller company who leases rack space or sq footage from the building owner so they can keep servers there. They are subject to, and in turn, enforce a strict bandwidth policy. Then the third kind is the guy who leases servers on an individual basis, and finds customers who need to host a website. He can play god with his customers, so long they don't exceed the limits of the guy he's leasing it from.
Hosts (tier 3 in my little example above) know a very, very small percentage of their customers will ever meet the restrictions on their arbitrarily defined packages, so they (often times grossly) oversell a server. Imagine you buy a hosting package that includes 100 GB of monthly bandwidth. Now imagine 200 other people buy it. The box itself has a 2,000 GB monthly hard limit. How is that host able to allow 20,000 GB on a 2,000 GB server!? It's not magic. They know most users will only use, say, between 100 MB and 1 GB of what they paid for. So they sold 20,000 GB of bandwidth but will only actually use well under 2,000. This formula will work into infinity...so hosts cut to the chase and flat out offer unlimited hosting. Until someone comes along who actually *uses* the undefined and vague bandwidth they think they're paying for. Then they get the boot. The old "too good to be true" syndrome. It's just marketing.
This works the same way for storage space, too.
But to be fair, sometimes hosts can be extremely lenient, especially if you're on a vacant server. They've already paid for the bandwidth, someone might as well use it. But as more and more accounts on that server are added and vie for the limited amount of resources allotted to it that month, eventually you'll get squeezed out of the pool.
Anyway, you can get a lot cheaper than that if you get a VPS, and many actual boxes are well under $100/mo if you want something low-powered. Serving files isn't as resource intensive as something like massive database queries, so no fancy multicore systems are needed. When you look at the lowest end boxes, you'll see quite a few come with unmetered 10Mbps. However that usually does bump you above $100/mo if you're going the route of unmetered. You can calculate 10Mpbs(24*7*30) to get an actual figure of bandwidth available that month, but since you can never exceed it, it's easier to just think "as much data as it possibly can serve" while download speeds get more and more diluted.

paid app are refundable within 15 min after purchase

dear all,
I'm sure of lot of people already know this,
but apparently others, especially new android users are unaware of this feature.
"paid apps are refundable within 15min after purchase"
you can download the app, play around with it, and if you don't like it or thinks that its not worth it, simply go into your market app, click on my apps,
find that particular app in the installed app list on the left,
in the brief information of the app that appeared on the right, at the bottom there's a return/refund button. click and you will uninstall the app and get your refund.
beware tho you can only do it once for each app, the next time you purchase the same app the refund button wont show up again.
hope this helps.

In the good old days it was 24 hours. Even 1 hour would be nice. Sometimes 15 minutes just aint enough to try something out properly.
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In my opinion 15 minutes is not enough time for try apps, especially when some games requires download 200 MB and you have a poor DSL conection... you spend your 15 minutes downloading data...
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Your 15 mins start after the download completes and not when your download starts.

grenademasta said:
Your 15 mins start after the download completes and not when your download starts.
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When your download completes from the market. Many games require further resources to be downloaded from within the app, which counts towards 15.
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Not to mention, if an application turns out not to work properly, but you don't find the bugs in the first fifteen minutes (or give the developer the benefit of the doubt that they'll fix the bugs), then you have no recourse.
I downloaded TravelDroyd and paid for the Hong Kong map, only to discover that the built-in offline Wikipedia content doesn't work at all. I reported it to the developer the same day I bought the app, having discovered it outside the 15-minute window. They replied the same day and told me that it would be fixed. Four months later, they haven't issued a single update to TravelDroyd *or* the Hong Kong map (which itself has issues with extremely inaccurate content, something else I reported to them.) The app is basically completely unsupported, but you have no way of knowing that when you buy it.

Not ALL app have a refund policy. FYI

Yeah its crap now. 24 hours was probably too much time but 15 minutes is defiantly too little. Heck you can easily play with some apps for 15 minutes and still not have a grasp for what they can do our if they work properly.
All it has done is made me not want to try any app which doesn't have a free trial version, ad supported version, or the like.
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knoxploration said:
Not to mention, if an application turns out not to work properly, but you don't find the bugs in the first fifteen minutes (or give the developer the benefit of the doubt that they'll fix the bugs), then you have no recourse.
I downloaded TravelDroyd and paid for the Hong Kong map, only to discover that the built-in offline Wikipedia content doesn't work at all. I reported it to the developer the same day I bought the app, having discovered it outside the 15-minute window. They replied the same day and told me that it would be fixed. Four months later, they haven't issued a single update to TravelDroyd *or* the Hong Kong map (which itself has issues with extremely inaccurate content, something else I reported to them.) The app is basically completely unsupported, but you have no way of knowing that when you buy it.
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Just so you know, developers do have the ability to refund your purchase if they so choose. So you have some recourse, but it's totally at the mercy of the dev. I've seen some apps where the dev actually says right in the description that if an app doesn't work out for you, or you have an issue they can't resolve, to ask for a refund and they'll work with you.
Of course, a developer can say no or simply choose not to respond at all, but I think there are a lot of developers who really do care about doing right by their customers. The example you cite may not be one of them though, and for that reason I really wish they did have a longer refund window, during which the control lies in our hands, not the developer's.

bkrodgers said:
Just so you know, developers do have the ability to refund your purchase if they so choose. So you have some recourse, but it's totally at the mercy of the dev. I've seen some apps where the dev actually says right in the description that if an app doesn't work out for you, or you have an issue they can't resolve, to ask for a refund and they'll work with you.
Of course, a developer can say no or simply choose not to respond at all, but I think there are a lot of developers who really do care about doing right by their customers. The example you cite may not be one of them though, and for that reason I really wish they did have a longer refund window, during which the control lies in our hands, not the developer's.
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Or simply a dispute process where you can provide proof of an app's failure to work to spec, and have Google reverse the charge if the developer refuses to do so.
Sadly, I don't see Google doing so any time soon, for the same reason they won't provide basic features like the ability to sort apps by rating in their own market. It would have developers up in arms, and likely lead to quite a few jumping ship, which they can't risk while they're trying to grow their market share.
Good point that some good developers may offer the protection that Google themselves should be providing, though.

[Q] Two devices on one Google account - 2x25$ or 1x50$?

I have ordered two N7 and ticked to connect them with my Google user. The question is if I'll get 2x25$ for my Google account afert loging in at one device, or i have to do it on both. In the future i'm going to use two N7 for two different users.

I don't think so, these kinds of things are usually a once-per-user type deal.
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gieja said:
I have ordered two N7 and ticked to connect them with my Google user. The question is if I'll get 2x25$ for my Google account afert loging in at one device, or i have to do it on both. In the future i'm going to use two N7 for two different users.
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I would suggest using another gmail account just in case so you don't lose the credit.
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gieja said:
I have ordered two N7 and ticked to connect them with my Google user. The question is if I'll get 2x25$ for my Google account afert loging in at one device, or i have to do it on both. In the future i'm going to use two N7 for two different users.
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I did the same thing. Im hoping i get a $50 credit.
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I hope all we're going to do is login on both devices for our Google account and the'll charge our wallet with 2x25$ which we will spend on one N7.

Questions go in the Q&A section

I really want to know the answer for this. Have two coming from Gamestop and don't want to lose the credit on one by doing the wrong thing.
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Why don' t you call google and find out?

I'm going to order 10 of these, apply all the GCs to my account and then sell 9 of the tablets. "Free" tablet ftw!

adamhlj said:
Why don' t you call google and find out?
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Because I live in Poland and they're not selling N7 in here and phone call to US and waiting 45min on hold would cost me more than 25$.

Google per device registration for apps and play store
Ok
Sorry upfront i cant remember or find where i read this. Thou i know it was a credible source for the most part . I have read that goggle Jelly bean has a feature built into it . To attach a unique identifier from that device(guessing esn) to the market and apps purchased on that device and make them not available on other devices unless you re purchase them for each device you have. If this holds any truth. I would think the 25.00 credit would also be linked to such a standard. If in fact true you would have 25.00 for each tab. not a total of 50.00. But both tablets can link to the same google wallet account. As i use google wallet for may things other then APP Store. Same with my Pay Pal Debit card.I just find it safer.
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but its interesting to really know if this holds any Truth. I have some not so cheap apps. I would SCREAM If they told me i had to re purchase them. because i buy a new device every year lately.

erica_renee said:
Ok
Sorry upfront i cant remember or find where i read this. Thou i know it was a credible source for the most part . I have read that goggle Jelly bean has a feature built into it . To attach a unique identifier from that device(guessing esn) to the market and apps purchased on that device and make them not available on other devices unless you re purchase them for each device you have. If this holds any truth. I would think the 25.00 credit would also be linked to such a standard. If in fact true you would have 25.00 for each tab. not a total of 50.00. But both tablets can link to the same google wallet account. As i use google wallet for may things other then APP Store. Same with my Pay Pal Debit card.I just find it safer.
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but its interesting to really know if this holds any Truth. I have some not so cheap apps. I would SCREAM If they told me i had to re purchase them. because i buy a new device every year lately.
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I highly doubt that that is true as it would make no sense to force users to buy the same app multiple times. Are you perhaps referring to the encryption of paid apps? That's to prevent piracy and cracking rather than the above stated purpose.

I activated my I/O & got the credit but when I activated the one from Gamestop, I didn't get the credit.

It would be prone to too much abuse, eh? Having multiple credits on one account. Theoretically, if you bought a tablet, activated it, returned it citing display problems, and repeat 7 more times, you'd have enough credits to receive a free Nexus 7 from the Play Store, no?
Unless I'm horrible mistaken, that's how I understand it.

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It would be prone to too much abuse, eh? Having multiple credits on one account. Theoretically, if you bought a tablet, activated it, returned it citing display problems, and repeat 7 more times, you'd have enough credits to receive a free Nexus 7 from the Play Store, no?
Unless I'm horrible mistaken, that's how I understand it.
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The credits can only be used for digital content (except subscriptions)
But I'm assuming the rest of your post is probably correct.

This similar thread answered a bit more questions for you guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774058

[RPC:S-5:AEC-0]

This post is not really a cry for help. Just throwing this out here. I've been having problems with this error message ([RPC:S-5:AEC-0]) that I'm getting from the playstore for about almost a week now. I first experienced this after I saw quite a few update notifications on my phone. When I tapped on the update button, none of the apps updated and I got this error message instead, So I googled information on how I can fix it and found out the following
1. Clear data and/or cache on the following
- Downloads
- Google Play Store
- Google Service Framework
2. Remove and re-add google account from device
3. Factory reset
None of the methods above worked for me. I even tried accessing my paid apps from my pc by going to https://play.google.com/. Unfortunately, I also got an error message when I clicked on the "My Android Apps" link. Take note that I tried doing all these with different ISPs so issue is definitely not with my internet connection as well.
I've already contacted the google play support group and I was told that this issue has been going on and unresolved since October of 2012. The google techs are stummped and don't have the slightest idea of what's causing the problem. They can't even give me a time frame of when this will be resolved. They asked me to send bug reports from my devices which I did although I know for a fact that this problem is not being caused by any of my devices.
I'm pretty much stuck with a useless smart phone and tablet since I did a factory reset on both and I'm unable to redownload all of my apps including the ones that I have purchased...
I attached a few screenshots from my N7000 and Nexus 7 and my PC as well showing the errors.

This is how google wants to solve my issue... BY RIPPING ME OFF!!!
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:20 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Manolo,
Thank you for contacting Google and keeping us updated on your situation while experiencing the error RPC:S-5:AEC-0. As we discussed over the phone the only option left to do regarding your current account is to wait. [B]however I was informed that you can try by passing this by creating a new account and I apologize for information that I had provided you over the phone as that was incorrect knowledge. This does appear to also be an account base problem. Please keep in mind that paid apps are non transferable.[/B]Here is the link to check out that will be keeping update on the progress of the RPC:S-5:AEC-0 error.
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/static.py?&page=known_issues.cs&ki_topic=1319135
If you could let me know if creating a new gmail account works that knowledge will be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if you continue to have questions at any time.
Thanks and have a great day,
Devan
The Google Play Team

Have you changed any account settings lately on Google.
Go to play.google.com and login. From top right corner click on my order & settings and check the details.
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Galaxtus said:
Have you changed any account settings lately on Google.
Go to play.google.com and login. From top right corner click on my order & settings and check the details.
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I haven't. I just checked. Nothing irregular with the details.

Did you tried to uninstall/install some free app? Can you install new app?
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zviki said:
Did you tried to uninstall/install some free app? Can you install new app?
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Reread the op
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Perhaps flashing a new firmware might help as this changes the android id?
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kishd said:
Perhaps flashing a new firmware might help as this changes the android id?
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Nope. It's a known issue that has blown up over the last few weeks.
This is the most active thread on xda I can locate, up to 10 pages and growing fast.
A thread started on Google Plus today about it as well. Happening across all devices and ROMs to a significant number of users.

hgoldner said:
Nope. It's a known issue that has blown up over the last few weeks.
This is the most active thread on xda I can locate, up to 10 pages and growing fast.
A thread started on Google Plus today about it as well. Happening across all devices and ROMs to a significant number of users.
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Just talked to one of the google techs again today. This is really getting out of hand crazy! They have sent me numerous emails asking me to do the same thing over and over. It's like they don't even check on previous documentation that I have responded to telling them that none of the trouble shooting they told me to do worked. To top it all off, we started discussing about refunds. I was told that thier policy is they can only do the last 6 months. I have so many paid applications that I have accumulated for the last year and a half! A lot of the ones I use the most have been purchased more than 6 months ago, Then she tells me that I'd have to talk to the individual 3rd party developers and ask them for a refund. I mean, why would a developer refund me if it's not even thier fault that this issue is happening. This is all google!

Did you tried it on another android phone with your login id
#Galaxtus - Over and Out

Galaxtus said:
Did you tried it on another android phone with your login id
#Galaxtus - Over and Out
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Note, S3, Nexus 7 and my desktop PC. I've done it all sir. Nothing else you can say would be any different from the ones that I've already read from all the forums. This is an issue from google's side affecting several accounts.

l0rd_almighty said:
Note, S3, Nexus 7 and my desktop PC. I've done it all sir. Nothing else you can say would be any different from the ones that I've already read from all the forums. This is an issue from google's side affecting several accounts.
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In the same boat across multiple devices and very frustrated. Hopefully this is becoming a very widespread issue and will get more attention with Google's higher level techs and developers.

I was having this issue, and all the normal steps didn't help. I called Google, they were no help, other than to say it was a known issue. I tried removing my Google account, and clearing the cache/data for Google Service Framework and Play Store apps - nothing worked
Then I tried clearing the cache/data on Google Play Services, on the off chance that this might be the culprit and after a reboot everything is working great again.
Hope this will help some of the other folks who are struggling with this.
Exact Steps:
1) Open Settings->Apps
2) Select Google Play Store
3) Clear Cache and Force Stop
4) Select Google Framework Services
5) Clear Data and Force Stop
6) Select Google Play Services
7) Clear Data and Force Stop
8) Reboot

Why are you ****ting On Us Google?
On another forum, a poster had this to say about this RPC:S-5:AEC-0 problem:
I don't believe this has anything to do with what is running on the device...whether its 4.2.2 or 4.1.2. It's simply an issue with corruption in the Google Play account on Google's servers. The lack of any fix for this or a workaround is abysmal on Google's part. I have paid apps that will no longer run because Google Play no longer recognizes them as paid apps. I have wasted numerous hours trying to get this resolved with escalated calls to Google support. Basically, anyone who is affected by this account "corruption" issue is currently screwed with no fix in sight. This needs to get major media attention or possible class action status before Google gets serious and fixes this acknowledged issue they've known about for several months now.
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That is a good summary of the issue.
Google knows all about this.
It's endemic and the worst part about it is that Google is ignoring it.
There has been one simple post by Google -- in March -- saying they were working on the problem, and then a one-line addendum in April to say that they were still working on the problem.
THIS IS NOT ONLY ABSURD, BUT UNACCEPTABLE.
I've tried every effing solution that's been posted -- and none works.
I'm sick to the back teeth about the crap that GOOGLE thinks I can take. I'm just steaming mad.
The sheer inconvenience and time-wasting is mind numbing.
Am I pissed off at Google. You betcha.
Do I scream at Google, What do you think!
How can Google sit back and do nothing about this for months. (And don't point me to the lame suggestions of a work around like: Clear the cache in the Play Store app; clear the data in the Google Services framework; delete and reinstall the offending account .... etc etc etc. I've tried every one and more. Even tried deleting the whole OS and reinstalling,; tried factory reset.
THIS IS CRAP AND GOOGLE KNOWS IT.
Setting up a new gmail account is not practicable as the Google user base has a huge investment in their Play Store account by way of the money they've paid to Google for apps which Google is fraudulently now stopping them from using.
The problem appears to be tied to the link between the kernel and the play store account. If a user starts a whole new account, then there is no problem for that new account. However, for Android's database of users, this is not a practicable solution as that base of users has an investment in their Play Store account -- not the least of which is in the value of the apps that they have paid for to date.
MY QUESTION IS: WHY ARE YOU ****TING ON US - YOUR LOYAL USERS - GOOGLE?
Another question: How do we escalate this into main stream media so that Google has to get off their fat arse and fix the proble? Any ideas would be helpful.

Looks like google finally fixed the issue. My apps finally started updating today with no errors.

l0rd_almighty said:
Looks like google finally fixed the issue. My apps finally started updating today with no errors.
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Congrats buddy. Hope finally you found all your answers. Anyways try to backup your apps with TB once updated, just in case

l0rd_almighty said:
Looks like google finally fixed the issue. My apps finally started updating today with no errors.
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+1

This is NOT a time to pat Google on the back
Last night, shortly after posting my rant on this forum, I went to the app store to see if I could get some sense out of the bloody thing. Lo and Behold! It was all go!!!!
Now while I like to think -- in my hedonostoc idle moments -- that it was my posting on this forum that did the trick, reality tells me that Google had been working on this for some time and that the fix was in place coincidentally at approximately 10pm NZ time yesterday (12th June 2013).
Why am I being so pedantic about the time.
Simple.
Google, quite clearly, must have been working on this for some time in order for the fix to be put in place at that precise moment. The problem with this conduct though, is that they did NOT at any time inform its constituency that it had even acknowledged that there was this effing problem in the first place. A lot of good people have been mystified, frustrated, angry, confused and suspicious by this smorgasbord of crap that Google has dished up and even felt that they had no option but to eat the **** sandwich presented to them.
SO, if Google thinks that this lowly serf is going to thank them for getting rid of the RPC:S-5:AEC-0 bug, then they need to take their heads out of the arses and smell the real world, 'cos it aint going to happen.
At the very least I would expect Google to make some gesture to its user base to placate them after the harrowing ordeal that their incompetence has put them through.
Enough said.
Unless or until this rears its ugly head again.

martin1952 said:
Last night, shortly after posting my rant on this forum, I went to the app store to see if I could get some sense out of the bloody thing. Lo and Behold! It was all go!!!!
Now while I like to think -- in my hedonostoc idle moments -- that it was my posting on this forum that did the trick, reality tells me that Google had been working on this for some time and that the fix was in place coincidentally at approximately 10pm NZ time yesterday (12th June 2013).
Why am I being so pedantic about the time.
Simple.
Google, quite clearly, must have been working on this for some time in order for the fix to be put in place at that precise moment. The problem with this conduct though, is that they did NOT at any time inform its constituency that it had even acknowledged that there was this effing problem in the first place. A lot of good people have been mystified, frustrated, angry, confused and suspicious by this smorgasbord of crap that Google has dished up and even felt that they had no option but to eat the **** sandwich presented to them.
SO, if Google thinks that this lowly serf is going to thank them for getting rid of the RPC:S-5:AEC-0 bug, then they need to take their heads out of the arses and smell the real world, 'cos it aint going to happen.
At the very least I would expect Google to make some gesture to its user base to placate them after the harrowing ordeal that their incompetence has put them through.
Enough said.
Unless or until this rears its ugly head again.
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Very well said!
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
Reread the op
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Why? I'm talking about new app not existed one,but I should write install/uninstall(not uninstall/install). It's not important anymore if the others have the same problem...
P.S. ...and it's solved...
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