Ok I currently have Engineering hboot 85.007 on my phone. A lot of the stickies have 89.005. Which is better and/or the most current. Also what exactly can you do with the engineering bootloader? All it added to the list of options is system info? I'm trying to figure out if I have the right one, and if it is installed properly. I did read, but a lot of the guides are outdated.
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I think the difference is fastboot?
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eqjunkie829 said:
I think the difference is fastboot?
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Do you know which one is better? Or is it a matter of preference?
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jjbadd385 said:
Do you know which one is better? Or is it a matter of preference?
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Definitely flash eng hboot. No question that it is better.
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eqjunkie829 said:
Definitely flash eng hboot. No question that it is better.
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What he said. The eng hboot lets you fastboot, which is one extra(and very formidable) protection against permabricking your phone. The other hboot is the standard "consumerized" one; it works fine for most purposes but you don't get the extra protection that constant flashers should have.
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What he said. The eng hboot lets you fastboot, which is one extra(and very formidable) protection against permabricking your phone. The other hboot is the standard "consumerized" one; it works fine for most purposes but you don't get the extra protection that constant flashers should have.
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I have the 85.007 Engineering bl on mine, but my question is, 'Is 85.007 the best Engineering bl, or is 89.005 an Engineering bl also? I'm trying to understand how many Engineering bl there are, & if one is better than the other, etc. I would like to have the best one available on my device.
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85.whatever is the only engineer bootloader. 89.whatever isn't an engineer hboot, that's the consumer one that Tmobile would prefer everyone to have on their phones. Think of the 85 bl as the rooted version and 89.whatever as the stock version.
I hope I don't get burned at the stake for making that analogy lol
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The reason I am confused, is that in the DEV section, there is a sticky, written by mark manning, with custom recovery and engineering hboot. There are 3 different file packs and in each one, it states "engineering hboot 89.005" ? If that is wrong the maybe they should be changed? But thanks for explaining it to me.
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Does anyone know for sure if I can flash the gingerbread update pd15img.zip even though I'm rooted by gfree with the eng hboot?
I can't get the unroot method to work, that's why i'm asking.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
Does anyone know for sure if I can flash the gingerbread update pd15img.zip even though I'm rooted by gfree with the eng hboot?
I can't get the unroot method to work, that's why i'm asking.
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Flash the rooted version in recovery, wipe every thing first
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bmakk2055 said:
Flash the unrooted version in recovery, wipe every thing first
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You can't flash a PD15IMG.zip RUU in recovery. It's only flashable in the bootloader.
Please don't post advice if you don't know what you're talking about.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
No dip, I'm not stupid.
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bmakk2055 posted incorrect information, so I posted the correct info for the benefit of you or anyone else who might come across this thread. Take a chill pill, bud.
Either way, neither of you have answered the question, so I don't care. You could've kept that comment to yourself and so could he cause he obviously doesn't know a thing about what I'm talking about.
To others who view this, please don't post unless you know the answer. Thanks.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
Either way, neither of you have answered the question, so I don't care. You could've kept that comment to yourself and so could he cause he obviously doesn't know a thing about what I'm talking about.
To others who view this, please don't post unless you know the answer. Thanks.
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It wasn't a random "comment". XDA is a database like all forums, so even if you already knew the answer yourself, it's important to correct misinformation for anyone who may come across this thread in the future.
Not cool of you to get mad at him when he's just trying to help you.
That kind of an attitude will just deter people away from even wanting to help you out.
Just sayin'.
To answer your OP, why not use the Froyo PD15IMG.zip? Are you trying to unroot your phone?
Using the GB PD15IMG.zip probably wouldn't be the best idea even if it worked. Because if it worked then you're stuck at GB which can't be rooted ATM.
mackster248 said:
Not cool of you to get mad at him when he's just trying to help you.
That kind of an attitude will just deter people away from even wanting to help you out.
Just sayin'.
To answer your OP, why not use the Froyo PD15IMG.zip? Are you trying to unroot your phone?
Using the GB PD15IMG.zip probably wouldn't be the best idea even if it worked. Because if it worked then you're stuck at GB which can't be rooted ATM.
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I want the update though. And last time I did the froyo zip while perm rooted with gfree and stock hboot, it bricked the phone. I'm trying to collect all the info first cause apparently I want supposed to do that unless I have eng hboot.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
I want the update though. And last time I did the froyo zip while perm rooted with gfree and stock hboot, it bricked the phone. I'm trying to collect all the info first cause apparently I want supposed to do that unless I have eng hboot.
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Then why not just flash the update? There's like 3 flashable versions out there in the developmental section.
I flashed it last night, not that great. Don't know how you could choose that over Virtual Unity's Sense 3.0, but I guess to each their own.
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Then why not just flash the update? There's like 3 flashable versions out there in the developmental section.
I flashed it last night, not that great. Don't know how you could choose that over Virtual Unity's Sense 3.0, but I guess to each their own.
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I have the 'bad' chip and I'm trying to lose root just in case something happens, I also want the update cause froyo was glitchy and I'm starting to have tiny but irritating issues with unity, like wifi calling and my home screen disappearing.
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I am having horrible reception (1, 2, no bars, no service, emerg call only) and can never get 3G or H signal icons. I am constantly on EDGE. These problems are occurring at places where i usually have great reception. Whats the problem?
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I am having horrible reception (1, 2, no bars, no service, emerg call only) and can never get 3G or H signal icons. I am constantly on EDGE. These problems are occurring at places where i usually have great reception. Whats the problem?
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If you're rooted, then flash a custom radio. Find the thread in the dev section.
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saranhai said:
If you're rooted, then flash a custom radio. Find the thread in the dev section.
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which radio is recommended the most. im using miui atm
fragmentttt said:
which radio is recommended the most. im using miui atm
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thats up to you to find out each radio works differently in other areas. Im assuming youre on the stock radio, your next best bet would be to try the panache radio. btw, MIUI is a rom not a radio. just flash each radio til you find the right one for you
Is there any way I can just put the zip onto my sd card and flash? Because the radio thread in dev says I need to put it into adb folder, and I have no idea how to use Android sdk...
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fragmentttt said:
Is there any way I can just put the zip onto my sd card and flash? Because the radio thread in dev says I need to put it into adb folder, and I have no idea how to use Android sdk...
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First check file with am md5 checker then put file on root of sd card then boot into bootloader then flash it from there.
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cnote74 said:
First check file with am md5 checker then put file on root of sd card then boot into bootloader then flash it from there.
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I tried it and the hboot loaded the thing but got stuck in parsing sd zip
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fragmentttt said:
I tried it and the hboot loaded the thing but got stuck in parsing sd zip
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Might be a bad download I would try re downloading it again. Do you have the engineering bootloader?
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cnote74 said:
Might be a bad download I would try re downloading it again. Do you have the engineering bootloader?
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What's the engineering bootloader?
my bootloader (im assuming) looks somewhat like this:
http://theandroidsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/20110603083832.jpg
fragmentttt said:
What's the engineering bootloader?
my bootloader (im assuming) looks somewhat like this:
http://theandroidsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/20110603083832.jpg
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...wait you have a SENSATION?????
not the Mytouch 4G??
btw, yes you do have the Engineering bootloader, as it says "eng"
saranhai said:
...wait you have a SENSATION?????
not the Mytouch 4G??
btw, yes you do have the Engineering bootloader, as it says "eng"
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nah i dont have the sensation, i just googled bootloaders to find a bootloader that was similar to mine. does having an engineering bootloader make a difference?
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nah i dont have the sensation, i just googled bootloaders to find a bootloader that was similar to mine. does having an engineering bootloader make a difference?
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...lol ok...
the Engineering bootloader, on the MT4G i think is 0.85.2007.
the Engineering bootloader gives you flashing rights, i.e changing the splash screen, radio, recovery image using adb... etc. i'd highly recommend it.
still no luck. are there any roms out there that I can flash that end up changing my radio in the process?
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still no luck. are there any roms out there that I can flash that end up changing my radio in the process?
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Nope, but learning how to use adb really isn't hard. I'd suggest reading trublue_drew's thread in the dev section called adb for dummies.
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I would follow this tutorial if you're still unsure about flashing radios. It's a really simple and easy process, but you have to follow directions TO THE LETTER. Otherwise, you might end up with a fancy, expensive paperweight.
I don't see any guides with 6.17.0001 listed?
Your hboot means your s-off with revolutionary all you have to do is flash a custom recovery and superuser.zip
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Thanks for the reply. Should I try to flash a recovery even when it says S-ON?
It says s-on? If so you have to rerun a RUU to get the hboot back to 2.16 and then use revolutionary.io to unlock and root it again
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hboot 6.17 with S-on? ...weird. wtf ? Strange. Did you just buy it used?
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hboot 6.17 with S-on? ...weird. wtf ? Strange. Did you just buy it used?
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It's like that because the previous owner didn't rerun the RUU to return it to normal hboot he just flashed the hex edited hboot to get s-on
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It's like that because the previous owner didn't rerun the RUU to return it to normal hboot he just flashed the hex edited hboot to get s-on
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It really bothers me when lazy people don't follow ALL of my instructions. evo4gnoob is right; that's actually the next step in the process. People seem to think S-ON is enough (it probably is, in most cases), but a true EVOphile will know that 6.17 isn't a "real" (i.e. from HTC) HBOOT version.
Its currently on gingerbread, and to s-off I have to downgrade back to froyo first?
Once I do that and clockwork or 4ext, I want a stable sense rom. What do I have to do before flashing?? And I want a stable rom whhich one?
I have the tmobile g2 vision
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Help?
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This page should have all your answers. If you're looking to use sense ROMs, I recommend changing to the DZ hboot as it is necessary to run newer Sense ROMs (3+ i think).
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This page should have all your answers. If you're looking to use sense ROMs, I recommend changing to the DZ hboot as it is necessary to run newer Sense ROMs (3+ i think).
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How do I do this??
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g1user101 said:
Its currently on gingerbread, and to s-off I have to downgrade back to froyo first?
Once I do that and clockwork or 4ext, I want a stable sense rom. What do I have to do before flashing?? And I want a stable rom whhich one?
I have the tmobile g2 vision
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Assuming you know adb well...
Yes, you have to downgrade it first then root it. I suggest you using these guides here at cyanogen for downgrade and root
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_G2:_Firmware_Downgrade_(Gingerbread)
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_G2:_Rooting
Reason: The web page it self is a heck shorter than the one at XDA.
Just please click the thing it read it, it's short.
Once you have done these things you should have rooted Froyo with CWM Recovery 3. While it's an adequate version I suggest you update it first (Play Market to the rescue) then do an Nandroid backup, just in case.
One thing you need to know: When you're in CWM Recovery, you need to press the trackpad to select options.
Now you have to get a Desire Z Hboot. I recommend this guide
http://www.virtuousrom.com/2011/06/t-mobile-g2-users-migrating-to-desirez.html
Once you have the Desire Z Hboot, you can use Sense ROMs. Stable ROMs would be any GB ROMs (the Desire Z/ G2 is pretty well-supported here), like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401560
Hope this helps.
Thank u very muuch. Ill be doing this in an hour. And are there any other sense roms??
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There is a whole development section for you to look through here.
For someone who has 1500 posts you really want your hand held.
biohazrd51 said:
There is a whole development section for you to look through here.
For someone who has 1500 posts you really want your hand held.
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Haha my bad. Its just there's too many to look for. But its ok.
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Link
MaratabHashmi said:
Very Useful Software for Everyone......Easy way to flash these...no need of adb........
1.Flash Recovery
2.Flash Radio
3.Flash Bootloader
4.Flash Splash Screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8366419
Credit goes to his dev DANWARD
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That tool only works with unlocked bootloaders and eng s-off. Otherwise it will fail
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Dead link
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MaratabHashmi said:
Very usefull software for new user and very easily you flash......
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Only for new users whose phones already have S-Off...which is highly unlikely (since getting S-Off is not a very new-user procedure). I'd suggest that you at least state in the OP that you need S-Off to use this tool (for the new users who happened to buy used S-Off phones). Otherwise you might get a lot of people saying "IT DONT WORK" here.
Link dead....
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MaratabHashmi said:
Most usefull software....
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Did you even bother to read what glei and I wrote...? Or are you just trolling for thanks and disregarding the lack of actual usefulness of your "most usefull software"?