Always seem mildly dissapointed with the Notes screen responsiveness and panel/app movement speed. Been a while but pulled out the GSII... Both on 1.4mz...SGS2 on GB launcher Pro. Note on ICS (Stunner) Apex launcher. Both with cache and dalvik cleared w/reboot......and..
SGS2 just significantly faster opening apps, switching launcher panels etc. Screen itself on the SGSII just seems hypersensitive to the touch compared to the Note which almost requires a little bit of pressure. The Notes not 'slow' perse...but compared to simultaneous touch tests with my SGSII it seems slow. Was kind of surprised at the extent.
Guess it is what it is with larger screens huh?
I'd imagine my pre rooted Note was faster also...can't remember or compare.
its not the size of the screen that is the issue.
its the resolution.
galaxy s2 = 800 x 480 = 384000 pixels on the screen at any given time
galaxy note = 1280 x 800 = 1024000 pixels on the screen at any given time
it has to render 2.66 times as many pixels at any given time with the same GPU. if you have any experience at all with computers, you'll know its the same thing. run need for speed shift 2 at 640x480 on max settings with a gtx580, and you'll get 300-400fps. run it at 2560x1600 on max settings with the same gtx580 and you'll get 60fps if youre lucky.
dont expect that the note can magically perform just as well at the same clock speed when it is under 166% more stress at any given time compared to the s2. its expected to be slower.
I hear this a lot but I personally dont notice it..I have switched my ex wife,gf and her daughter all over to the SGS2 and none of them seem any faster then my Note.
As a matter of fact, I have a 9100 in front of me running Hydrogen ICS and it just embarrasses the Note. I love my Note but that is the truth.
EDIT - But then again, Kernel sources have been released for the S2.
In my opinion the Note with original rom is absolutely slower than the GS2. Flashing Stunner rom is THE solution! Pretty close to Iphone 4s experience.
I admit that i would have expected my note a bit faster, but i think the resolution is the cause. Fir me the best thing to do is to wait the ics official rom, which sould ensure higher performances, ar least i hope so
Thanks. That's right. Appreciate.
I look forward to over clocking on ICS
Stock when released.
QUOTE=Souai;25209788]its not the size of the screen that is the issue.
its the resolution.
galaxy s2 = 800 x 480 = 384000 pixels on the screen at any given time
galaxy note = 1280 x 800 = 1024000 pixels on the screen at any given time
it has to render 2.66 times as many pixels at any given time with the same GPU. if you have any experience at all with computers, you'll know its the same thing. run need for speed shift 2 at 640x480 on max settings with a gtx580, and you'll get 300-400fps. run it at 2560x1600 on max settings with the same gtx580 and you'll get 60fps if youre lucky.
dont expect that the note can magically perform just as well at the same clock speed when it is under 166% more stress at any given time compared to the s2. its expected to be slower.[/QUOTE]
i used to think the same thing, but using the CM9 ROM and go launcher has sped things up considerably- no more lag on my home screen- i can even use effects without them mucking up!
For everyone who expects something for nothing, please read post #2
A good friend of mine got a SGSII after giving his Nokia N8 to his wife,I helped him with updates and installation of couple of application.since he was a complete Android newbi.
Will try to make an speed test tomorrow,as both of our devices are stock and unrooted.
My epic 4g touch running Caulkin's rom under clocked at 1ghz and undervolted still feels faster then CM9 on my note. But the note is still fast enough for me. I'm more interested in battery life then performance.
Having tested the latest Stunner release, I take back my words. The Note is on par with the S2 I have with me!
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has to render 2.66 times as many pixels at any given time with the same GPU.
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It is also worth noting that the Note will likely have less available memory available for applications than the GS II, given that they both have 1GB RAM, and the Note's frame buffer is going to be 2.66 times the size of the GSII's frame buffer too.
Regards,
Dave
I have had my GS2 for almost a year now with heavy daily use, it has had every rom under the sun that is worth flashing, flashed.
Without a doubt, my new note is considerably slower but its expected, and its not slow enough to be a bother.
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foxmeister said:
It is also worth noting that the Note will likely have less available memory available for applications than the GS II, given that they both have 1GB RAM, and the Note's frame buffer is going to be 2.66 times the size of the GSII's frame buffer too.
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Dave
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note does have less free ram. on my brother's s2 running gingerbread, he averages 550mb free ram. my note running gingerbread has around 300mb free ram average. its quite noticeable when i run a beefy game, most other apps shut down and i have to wait for the desktop to reload all widgets and icons when i exit a beefy game.
Thats right, with the devices side by side I see a total of almost 900MB Free/Used on the GS2 while the total on my note closer to 750MB.
One of the first things I do when rooting is to remove all the samsung apps from system that run and waste ram. Usually a good start.
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I agree. I owned a SG2 before I bought the Note and the SG2 is definitely more zippier than the Note.
But, I wouldn't exchange my Note for a SG2 anymore. I just love this beautiful, big screen !
so you are comparing a fully optomised sgs2 against a leaked ics version of the note?
Having used an SGSII for 6 months as my daily driver , then sold it for the note I can give you my observations:
1.S2 is faster than the note ,and has more ram ,but then again the S2 was smoother than my freind's iphone4 so I guess the note being slightly slower doesn't make it bad ,but makes the S2 a phenomena
2. screen colour of the S2 are better and don't have gamma corruption or black clipping as on the note.
3.the note's screen is much sharper than the S2 , and much larger.
4. Audio quality of the note is higher than the S2 , volume level of the spreaker is lower on the note though , headphones volume levels are the same or slightly higher on the note.
5.battery endurance of the note is 150% higher than the S2.
6.GPS of the note is a phenomena , and puts the S2 to shame.
Overall the note is pretty good and I can't imagine myself using a 4"smartphone again.
I really miss my Galaxy S2.
I only sold it because the headset jack wasn't working. I really should have replaced it with another S2.
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Hi guys,
I know there are many similar threads like "Note vs. S3" and "S3 vs. Note" here but I wanted to bring everyone's opinions under one roof and make it clear for future buyers of either devices.
Those of you who own or have used the Galaxy S3 and still prefer the Galaxy Note over it, please do share your reasons and experience here.
I own both the Galaxy Note and the Galaxy S3 and to be frank, I prefer the Note over the S3 despite the S3 being newer, more powerful, etc.
I had bought the Note in June reluctantly as I was afraid it would be too uncomfortable to use due to the screen size. I was leaning more towards the S3 as it was a more valid upgrade over my S2 and the latest newest piece of technology in town. But the initial asking price for the S3 was quite high for me and hence I decided to give the Note a try, slightly worried that this may be the worst decision I made as an upgrade, (again due to the size) but I was mistaken.
Anyways luckily after a month, my dad bought an S3 and hence I got to use the phone in a more personalized manner and guess what? I prefer the Note over the S3.
The reasons being:
a) Screen: I've grown so used to the Note's screen size that it makes me feel that the s3 is small and the S2 which set the standard for screen size in 2011 looks tiny. The screen of the note is also much brighter than the S3 ( I'm not talking accurate measurements but percievable brightness). The note at the lowest brightness is equivalent to the S3 at 30-40% brigntness. Its also great browsing on the bigger screen. There are disadvantages with the Note's screen too, mainly the poor gamma calibration, banding and clipping but the positives weigh over the negatives.
b) ]The S-Pen: This is maybe the main reason why I prefer the Note over the S3. The S-Pen still amazes me with its accuracy and using the S3 makes me "miss" the S-Pen. Makes me wonder why the S-Memo and S-Note exist on the S3. And sketching on the S3 during leisure hours is pure bliss.
I'm not much of a gamer and I havent seen much apps which utilize the dual core processing other than benchmarking tools, so for me, quadcore A9 just doesnt cut it, atleast for now. Lets talk Cortex A15s and then maybe I'm game.
So what is the only thing which I find attractive on the S3?
The Wolfson WM1811 Audio Chip ofcourse. The wolfson on the original Galaxy S, changed the scene for Music on a Mobile Phone. Hence, I have high hopes about this one too.
Apart from this, I dont find anything else attention grabbing about the S3. Nothing revolutionary either. To be frank, I regret cutting my SIM into a MicroSIM to trial the S3 for a couple of days. Will revert back to the Note soon.
Disadvantages of the Note (My experience)
Screen again: Improper gamma calibration of the Note's screen causes a noticeable amount of black clipping in images and videos which depict dark shades or shadows.
The EMMC Brick Bug: Considering that every Galaxy Note has the chip with the faulty firmware, it makes me fear owning the phone beyond warranty period as even though however careful we may be, accidents do happen. This and the time when dualcores may be lacking (which isnt soon) may be the only reasons for me to sell the Note.
Will I ditch the Note and buy the Note 2?
If its about the quadcore A9's, Maybe Not
Considering the S3 still costs atleast 200$ more than the Note, The Note 2 would definitely be more expensive than the S3, which makes it much more expensive than the Note, Hence making it difficult and a pointless upgrade for people who've bought the Note recently.
And maybe if the Note 2 comes with anything truly "revolutionary", I might consider it, but again, not anytime soon.
So people who've moved on from the Note to the S3, who are planning to or who still prefer the Note over the S3, please do share your opinions here. Also please make it a point to share the reason why you prefer one over the other. This would help other people who are confused between both. This can also help some people understand their needs and maybe even save some considerable amount of money.
Please share your opinions in the following order, making it easier for readers to follow.
A.) If you prefer the Note over S3,
a.) Reasons: (Advantages based on experience)
b.) Disadvantages (Again based on experience)
B.) For those who've moved on to the S3 from the Note but still own one,
a.) Advantages of the S3 over the Note (based on experience)
b.) Disadvantages of the S3 compared to the S3 (based on experience)
C.) Will you upgrade to the Note 2 upon launch?
Please note that the advantages or disadvantages you post are ONLY based on experience and NOT merely Technical Specs. Anyone would prefer going for the latest anyday if it was mere Technical Specifications.
would like to see Note 2, i am sure it will be better than s3..
I have seen S3, and it looks pretty good too. But I love the size of our BIG G Note
Hi I use my note for the past six months and it gives me better satisfaction over s3....because the screen size, s note and the speed.
As a normal user with the given drugs of games the speed is more than enough.. I prefer my note than my system for gaming.
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One simple reason.
Real estate. Screen real estate.
I simply cannot downgrade to anything below 5.3".
CorruptedSanity said:
One simple reason.
Real estate. Screen real estate.
I simply cannot downgrade to anything below 5.3".
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Same here. Even if S3 had 8 cores and 4gb of RAM i'd still prefer the Note. Great specs are useless if you have a tiny screen ( hello iphone )
Galaxy note screen size is both its biggest advantage and disadvantage. I love the size. Guess its the biggest size of a phone that you can carry. I think coz the phone is so slim its managable. I use the phone mostly in a landscape mode so get the tab experience.
S3 seems like your everyday phones. I dont know why its priced so high. Guess the price will fall soon.
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I have both the s3 just does not do anything for me yes its virtually lag free however screen is too small compared to note. Everything has less impact than the note. And i dont think the s3 could feel any cheaper. I know sammy use more plastic than lego but the S3 just feels tacky compared to my note which is yhe blue one as i know the white one also has the glossy black plate like the s3
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Prefer note over s3. S3 looks like a toy
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I like the screen size
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I like my purse to be full and not empty..
Using Note past 4months and totally satisfied by the experience...i'm a hardcore gamer and developer and so the big point awsm HD screen which really enhances my Hydef games like asphalt6,7, real soccer, batman,etc...
The only mob with stylus/S Pen which is an ease of access
...also after the 4.0.4 update everything is just gr8 except some minor UI probs but again Sammy is there for us....pls Sammy give us a gud news JELLY BEAN
Well Indeed it is the best phone available before Note 2 arrives.... Hpy «Noting»
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Note is of course is still better compare to S3.
Other than the censors on it, S3 has nothing to boost up.
Screen is not as big as Note
Has S-Note and S-Memo, but no S-Pen to support. At the end you have to write / draw with ur fingers, which defeat its purpose.
But yes, S3 screen, sounds, and battery is slightly better than Note. Still, comparing the price and the functions, Note is still all the way best to S3.
Till Note-2 comes up (and if it's much better than N7000), I will stick to this N7000.
The S-Pen makes me easier in work also. :highfive:
I use and alwasy bring both S3 and Note whereever I go
But in term of speed, S3 is awesome
I would buy Note 2 only if it can make a recording continously while writing using SNote application.
Currently, when the screen getting off, the record will stop and when adding the new page as well.
I also have Flyer that can make a record and writing continously, however due to the weight, I use Note more than Flyer.
I love all my gadget, actually :victory:
Note is Better than S3
I've used galaxy s3 for a month now and i found it very buggy ..
i prefer galaxy note and i hope note2 will be better than s3
Advantages of S3 -
Best,smoothest Touchwiz stock launcher from samsung till date
holding grip
pixel density is amazing , super clear
smart stay (can be installed on note too with smartstay ex but its not the same)
Goes into pocket very easily..
gorilla glass
Disadvantages of S3
microphone malfunction - i face it sometimes..
random reboots when running high processing power games
smaller screen than galaxy note
back cover isn't impressive .
camera is same as note - when u transfer photos to computer n view it u wont find major differences
battery life is very low of 3.5 hours
gets heated up more than note
Advantages of Note -
bigger screen
s pen
s apps
dual core processor is almost perfect for playing popular games
battery life of 6hours on hardcore gaming on low brightness n when sound is turned off
Disadvantages of Note -
No Gorilla glass , delicate screen - gets scratches very easily
laggy stock launcher
ics 4.0.4 fixed all the bugs previously which were - hangs,laggy browser,task manager fake reading..
dual core processor - i feel its enough for gaming but ppl out there think its too low..
Hope this helps ..please press thanks if this helped :good:
samsung_saad said:
I've used galaxy s3 for a month now and i found it very buggy ..
i prefer galaxy note and i hope note2 will be better than s3
Advantages of S3 -
Best,smoothest Touchwiz stock launcher from samsung till date
holding grip
pixel density is amazing , super clear
smart stay (can be installed on note too with smartstay ex but its not the same)
Goes into pocket very easily..
gorilla glass
Disadvantages of S3
microphone malfunction - i face it sometimes..
random reboots when running high processing power games
smaller screen than galaxy note
back cover isn't impressive .
camera is same as note - when u transfer photos to computer n view it u wont find major differences
battery life is very low of 3.5 hours
gets heated up more than note
Advantages of Note -
bigger screen
s pen
s apps
dual core processor is almost perfect for playing popular games
battery life of 6hours on hardcore gaming on low brightness n when sound is turned off
Disadvantages of Note -
No Gorilla glass , delicate screen - gets scratches very easily
laggy stock launcher
ics 4.0.4 fixed all the bugs previously which were - hangs,laggy browser,task manager fake reading..
dual core processor - i feel its enough for gaming but ppl out there think its too low..
Hope this helps ..please press thanks if this helped :good:
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I have different experience from yours
My GNote is hotter than S3 when playing game (Asphalt 7)
My S3 Battery lasts longer than GNote
Cheers
I like the big screen size coz I'm using it to replace my gtab.
Galaxy S3: Faster, better battery life.
Galaxy Note : Bigger and better screen.
Verdict: Galaxy Note.
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I'll bite.
I chose the Note over S3 because it's more useful.
S3's advantages based on my smartphone usage as an IT professional and Android enthusiast with explanations:
Quadcore/faster CPU. This is a valid an good advantage, but by no means is the Note slow or incapable, the S3 is just better.
Umm... http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-Note,Samsung Galaxy S III/phones/6116,6330
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Oh, 4.0 Bluetooth stack, ummm...
Gyroscope that I would really need for... something.
Let's look at the Note's advantages:
Bigger screen. That's quite nice, but the S3's screen is still really good.
Higher resolution. A little bit, but not enough to get worked up over.
S-Pen. This depends on if you would use it. I use mine WAY more than I expected to.
Okay, so cost to buy them...
Note is about $550, S3 is about $600, so not much difference.
Well, what do you want? Big screen and S-Pen or a quadcore?
It really comes down to that question.
I compared my Note with CM9 ICS ROM to Stock Galaxy S3 and Note was way smoother and faster. Also i can't think of going back to smaller screen... To me S3 doesn't offer anything, that Note couldn't offer.
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I'll bite.
I chose the Note over S3 because it's more useful.
S3's advantages based on my smartphone usage as an IT professional and Android enthusiast with explanations:
Quadcore/faster CPU. This is a valid an good advantage, but by no means is the Note slow or incapable, the S3 is just better.
Umm... http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-Note,Samsung Galaxy S III/phones/6116,6330
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Oh, 4.0 Bluetooth stack, ummm...
Gyroscope that I would really need for... something.
Let's look at the Note's advantages:
Bigger screen. That's quite nice, but the S3's screen is still really good.
Higher resolution. A little bit, but not enough to get worked up over.
S-Pen. This depends on if you would use it. I use mine WAY more than I expected to.
Okay, so cost to buy them...
Note is about $550, S3 is about $600, so not much difference.
Well, what do you want? Big screen and S-Pen or a quadcore?
It really comes down to that question.
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The galaxy Note also has a gyroscope. Some of the specs listed on your link is wrong.
The only features differenciating the Galaxy S3 from the Note is:
Quadcore, Smaller but better calibrated screen, Latest bluetooth stack, Really optimized, more functinal and visually pleasing touchwiz, cheaper quality plastics
And for the Note, Dual core, bigger and much brighter screen though poorly color calibrated, Wacom digitizer which is the actual magic behind the S-Pen, sturdier build quality.
I had the dilemma of choosing between the S3 and the note 2 for over a week, researching it on the interwebs was a pain in the a** as most comparisons offered a lot of uneducated and very biased answers. I finally decided to test both of them extensively for a couple of days, and I ended up loving and buying the note 2.
Because it was a pain to look for answers about what to get, and I saw a **** load of people with the same dilemma as me, I decided to create this brief comparison between the two.
Note: This comparison is based on the comparison of the international variants of both phones.
The screen:
The screens on both phones offer the same AMOLED technology, they offer very vibrant colors which are just a joy for every day use, and true blacks.
The differences between the displays on both phones are barely noticeable for the average user, but here's a slightly technical explanation for the differences between them. The Galaxy S3's screen adapts the pentile arrangement of pixels, the pentile arrangement supposedly saves energy with the cost of "jaggy" lines drawn on the screen, this effect is highly diluted by the high HD resolution on the 4.8 display, this is unnoticeable for the average user, but its very evident in texts. The galaxy note 2 offers samsung's newer revision of the AMOLED display, this new revision offers the traditional RGB arrangement of pixels, this gives the note's display a slight advantage over the S3's because there is no "jaginess", but the note 2's screen is at 5.5" in size, at the same resolution which hence gives a lower PPI.
In short, they both offer the same gorgeous color saturation, but some people might be offed by the Pentile screen on the S3. I personally think that if someone uses it for an extended period of time it wouldn't even be an issue, yet I personally preferred the bigger screen on the note 2.
Internals:
Processor:
Both phones offer the same quad core processor, S3 clocked at 1.4GHz, Note 2 clocked at 1.6GHz this bump offers a tiny bump in FPSs and benchmark scores, not noticeable by the average user.
Ram:
The note 2 offers 2GB of ram while the S3 offers 1GB of ram. After my extensive use of both phones I found the doubling of the RAM on the note 2 offered for fasted loading apps during multitasking, and a noticeable increase in the smoothness of the phone's workflow.
Battery:
The bigger size of the note 2 offers more space to include a 24% bigger battery compared to the S3, the bigger battery capacity on the note is a game changer for me, on normal to heavy use I got 7hours screen on time with 25hours on battery compared to 4hours 18hours on the same usage.
Portability:
Now this is the biggest question that comes to mind when it comes to picking one of the two phones, is the note 2 too big to be an everyday-use phone?
The answer is simply, no. The note 2 might give the impression that it's HUGE, but side to side next to the S3 its not that much bigger as you would expect. It's size might be an issue if you're using a bulky cover, wearing tight jeans, or you're a relatively a petite person.
But overall the size goes down to personal choice, I personally preferred the bigger screen on the Note, because I hate reading small text as I tend to read a lot on it. The bigger size WILL grow on you PRETTY QUICK.
I was very impressed by the added plus of having the S-Pen on the note, at first it I thought it was a gimmick, but now I use it a lot.
I hope this quick comparison was thorough and clear, if you think I missed something that you would like me to add, please comment below.
The GS3 LTE comes with 2 gigs of RAM as well (i9305).
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Man do we need to have so many threads on this topic!
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Yeah I reckon we need at least ten a day. ... These and how to enable the multi view windows always go down well eh?
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Note 2!!!
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tatperson said:
The GS3 LTE comes with 2 gigs of RAM as well (i9305).
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I specifically said that its a comparison between the international variants of both phones!!
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Man do we need to have so many threads on this topic!
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You are probably referring to topics who ask for a comparison between the two phones.
Good comparison. I was exactly in the same boat as you. I too was struggling whether to get S3 or Note II (my old phone was S2). 80% of my phone usage is reading stuff, anything from news, e-books, or xda posts. I got used to the size in one day and loved it ever since. I went for the Note II and I don't regret it one bit.
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Good comparison. I was exactly in the same boat as you. I too was struggling whether to get S3 or Note II (my old phone was S2). 80% of my phone usage is reading stuff, anything from news, e-books, or xda posts. I got used to the size in one day and loved it ever since. I went for the Note II and I don't regret it one bit.
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Now i have a question...i heard T-MOBILE and METRO are going to join together by next yr...by any chance is the note 2 gonna b coming to metro as well since the galaxy s3 is on metro already.
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The GS3 LTE comes with 2 gigs of RAM as well (i9305).
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The Samsung Galaxy S3 with 2GB of RAM is the North American version sold with the 1.5GHz Dual-Core CPU, the International version of the Samsung Galaxy S3 has only 1GB of RAM, however, it has a 1.4GHz Quad-Core CPU which enables it to not require more RAM.
The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 has 2GB of RAM AND the beefed up 1.6GHz Quad-Core CPU, it is by far the supreme solution if you are looking for absolute performance bragging rights.
The benefit of the SamsungGalaxy S3 is how common it is, there are tons of companies out there that are making cases, skins, screen protectors, attachments, docks, etc. for this phone while the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is still fairly new with minimum aftermarket product options.
I'm still buying the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 regardless of how slim aftermarket supplies are, I still can't resist buying such a fast phone.
The downfall to the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is for the Canadian retail price of $730 for the 16GB model, it's the same price of $730 for the 32GB version of the Samsung Galaxy S3 so you really need to settle those priorities out first, it took me quite some time to decide between 16GB of storage vs 0.8GHz faster CPU and 1GB more RAM.
The flaw to minimal internal storage is that your downloaded apps only work on internal storage so upgrading to a 64GB MicroSDXC is only for music, photos, and videos.
I hope this helps, I've been researching the Samsung Galaxy S3 since it was released in Canada and I've been researching the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 since it's rumours were announced in Korea shortly before September 2012.
If you are thinking that the 64GB Korean versions are the way to go be warned that the radios are completely different and only ONE version will work in Canada and JUST barely work at that. AT&T in the United States uses the same tower frequencies as Bell, Telus, and Rogers in Canada so if you are on AT&T then this phone will also work but no LTE.
Korea has 3 different versions, all of which use a completely different model number from the North American version "SGH-xxxx" or International "GT-N710x" and after researching the Korean phones, the only one that will work in Canada is the SHV-E250L, the SHV-E250K and SHV-E250U will not work, they use a 900MHz UMTS radio where as the SHV-E250L uses 850MHz (also works in 800MHz towers).
This means that the Korean 64GB Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Model Number SHV-E250L will work on Bell, Telus, Rogers, and AT&T with 3G GSM and 3G/4G UMTS but only slightly, rather then auto switching to a secondary 4G UMTS frequency it'll drop connection to the lower GSM 3G frequency which means this phone will only be GSM 3G for the larger portion of use and when you are close to towers you will have 4G using the ONE radio frequency of 850MHz/800MHz. This also means it can NOT use LTE radio frequencies so it is only 4G.
Best bet is to just bite the bullet chose between a faster phone or more space and buy decided on that and that only, both phones do all of the same features so there is no "better" phone but rather which is more for your needs, do you game on your phone? Do you need the faster processor? Do you multitask lots and need more RAM? or are you a storage junkie and need 32GB for all of the lesser hardware demanding apps? Maybe you don't want a 64GB MicroSDXC and you want more space or music on the internal storage or for recording lots of 1080p videos? Take some time to really think this out because when you're spending a hefty bundle on a phone like this the last thing you wanna do is regret not getting the other one
The RAM makes a huge difference. To me its one of the most impirtant aspects of Note2.
Hope we'll see Note3 with 4 gig!
Dont multiply the CPU frequencies omfg if you dont know anything about hardware.
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@VeeDaub
Did you just multiply the cpu's frequency with the number of cores??
And price isn't a variable here because XDA users range from around the world and price varies a lot from place to place... Like where I live, a brand new unlocked N7100 note 2 is $560 my relative in cali paid 670 for the exact same phone
mmk92 said:
I had the dilemma of choosing between the S3 and the note 2 for over a week, researching it on the interwebs was a pain in the a** as most comparisons offered a lot of uneducated and very biased answers. I finally decided to test both of them extensively for a couple of days, and I ended up loving and buying the note 2.
Because it was a pain to look for answers about what to get, and I saw a **** load of people with the same dilemma as me, I decided to create this brief comparison between the two.
Note: This comparison is based on the comparison of the international variants of both phones.
The screen:
The screens on both phones offer the same AMOLED technology, they offer very vibrant colors which are just a joy for every day use, and true blacks.
The differences between the displays on both phones are barely noticeable for the average user, but here's a slightly technical explanation for the differences between them. The Galaxy S3's screen adapts the pentile arrangement of pixels, the pentile arrangement supposedly saves energy with the cost of "jaggy" lines drawn on the screen, this effect is highly diluted by the high HD resolution on the 4.8 display, this is unnoticeable for the average user, but its very evident in texts. The galaxy note 2 offers samsung's newer revision of the AMOLED display, this new revision offers the traditional RGB arrangement of pixels, this gives the note's display a slight advantage over the S3's because there is no "jaginess", but the note 2's screen is at 5.5" in size, at the same resolution which hence gives a lower PPI.
In short, they both offer the same gorgeous color saturation, but some people might be offed by the Pentile screen on the S3. I personally think that if someone uses it for an extended period of time it wouldn't even be an issue, yet I personally preferred the bigger screen on the note 2.
Internals:
Processor:
Both phones offer the same quad core processor, S3 clocked at 1.4GHz, Note 2 clocked at 1.6GHz this bump offers a tiny bump in FPSs and benchmark scores, not noticeable by the average user.
Ram:
The note 2 offers 2GB of ram while the S3 offers 1GB of ram. After my extensive use of both phones I found the doubling of the RAM on the note 2 offered for fasted loading apps during multitasking, and a noticeable increase in the smoothness of the phone's workflow.
Battery:
The bigger size of the note 2 offers more space to include a 24% bigger battery compared to the S3, the bigger battery capacity on the note is a game changer for me, on normal to heavy use I got 7hours screen on time with 25hours on battery compared to 4hours 18hours on the same usage.
Portability:
Now this is the biggest question that comes to mind when it comes to picking one of the two phones, is the note 2 too big to be an everyday-use phone?
The answer is simply, no. The note 2 might give the impression that it's HUGE, but side to side next to the S3 its not that much bigger as you would expect. It's size might be an issue if you're using a bulky cover, wearing tight jeans, or you're a relatively a petite person.
But overall the size goes down to personal choice, I personally preferred the bigger screen on the Note, because I hate reading small text as I tend to read a lot on it. The bigger size WILL grow on you PRETTY QUICK.
I was very impressed by the added plus of having the S-Pen on the note, at first it I thought it was a gimmick, but now I use it a lot.
I hope this quick comparison was thorough and clear, if you think I missed something that you would like me to add, please comment below.
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Thanks so much for this. I am too in the same dilemma. Now for the low tech question;
Which one of this got a lanyard hole built around it? Its a life saver for me most time especially in the toilet!
Also hard to justify the price difference between those two @@ Note 2 is expensive, which in my country its around 25-35% more expensive contract free, so I dont know how 25% price bump can justify the screen and the ram
Can get a full IPS Dell 24" monitor for that price difference... (thats how my mind works lol)
My N7100 (the international version) has the lanyard hole, don't know about the S3 though, never searched for the hole
But trust me, the difference between them is huge.
You get double the RAM, more screen estate, more battery and the best AMOLED yet.
I've gone this route and i'm sure as hell loving it!
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Thanks so much for this. I am too in the same dilemma. Now for the low tech question;
Which one of this got a lanyard hole built around it? Its a life saver for me most time especially in the toilet!
Also hard to justify the price difference between those two @@ Note 2 is expensive, which in my country its around 25-35% more expensive contract free, so I dont know how 25% price bump can justify the screen and the ram
Can get a full IPS Dell 24" monitor for that price difference... (thats how my mind works lol)
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When I bought my note the price difference was around $90 which I thought was worth it.
The screen and RAM bump makes a HUGE difference for me at least. The note 2, although having a lower screen DPI then the S3, lacks the rather ugly pentile arrangement which makes its details finer, and text looks much better on the note as compared to the S3. The bigger screen size is gentler on the eyes, and I have noticed that the screen is brighter on the note. The RAM makes multitasking noticeably faster, and there is a noticeable increase in overall performance over the S3(because of the fact that the it doesn't have to empty the RAM as often as the S3, so it doesn't have to reprocess most of the information like the S3).
As for other pros of the Note 2 over the S3, my note 2 lasts about 48hours of on time with 6-8 hours screen on with wifi/3G on under normal to heavy usage, this is phenomenal for people who travel a lot. The S-pen is pretty cool, offers a bit more functionality.
As for the cons, after using the Note for 2months, I miss carrying a smaller phone, I'm always worried about dropping the phone, but getting used to it sloooooowly.
It does not have a lanyard hole, although I recommend you buy a decent cover the comes with one.
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I had the dilemma of choosing between the S3 and the note 2 for over a week, researching it on the interwebs was a pain in the a** as most comparisons offered a lot of uneducated and very biased answers. I finally decided to test both of them extensively for a couple of days, and I ended up loving and buying the note 2.
Because it was a pain to look for answers about what to get, and I saw a **** load of people with the same dilemma as me, I decided to create this brief comparison between the two.
Note: This comparison is based on the comparison of the international variants of both phones.
The screen:
The screens on both phones offer the same AMOLED technology, they offer very vibrant colors which are just a joy for every day use, and true blacks.
The differences between the displays on both phones are barely noticeable for the average user, but here's a slightly technical explanation for the differences between them. The Galaxy S3's screen adapts the pentile arrangement of pixels, the pentile arrangement supposedly saves energy with the cost of "jaggy" lines drawn on the screen, this effect is highly diluted by the high HD resolution on the 4.8 display, this is unnoticeable for the average user, but its very evident in texts. The galaxy note 2 offers samsung's newer revision of the AMOLED display, this new revision offers the traditional RGB arrangement of pixels, this gives the note's display a slight advantage over the S3's because there is no "jaginess", but the note 2's screen is at 5.5" in size, at the same resolution which hence gives a lower PPI.
In short, they both offer the same gorgeous color saturation, but some people might be offed by the Pentile screen on the S3. I personally think that if someone uses it for an extended period of time it wouldn't even be an issue, yet I personally preferred the bigger screen on the note 2.
Internals:
Processor:
Both phones offer the same quad core processor, S3 clocked at 1.4GHz, Note 2 clocked at 1.6GHz this bump offers a tiny bump in FPSs and benchmark scores, not noticeable by the average user.
Ram:
The note 2 offers 2GB of ram while the S3 offers 1GB of ram. After my extensive use of both phones I found the doubling of the RAM on the note 2 offered for fasted loading apps during multitasking, and a noticeable increase in the smoothness of the phone's workflow.
Battery:
The bigger size of the note 2 offers more space to include a 24% bigger battery compared to the S3, the bigger battery capacity on the note is a game changer for me, on normal to heavy use I got 7hours screen on time with 25hours on battery compared to 4hours 18hours on the same usage.
Portability:
Now this is the biggest question that comes to mind when it comes to picking one of the two phones, is the note 2 too big to be an everyday-use phone?
The answer is simply, no. The note 2 might give the impression that it's HUGE, but side to side next to the S3 its not that much bigger as you would expect. It's size might be an issue if you're using a bulky cover, wearing tight jeans, or you're a relatively a petite person.
But overall the size goes down to personal choice, I personally preferred the bigger screen on the Note, because I hate reading small text as I tend to read a lot on it. The bigger size WILL grow on you PRETTY QUICK.
I was very impressed by the added plus of having the S-Pen on the note, at first it I thought it was a gimmick, but now I use it a lot.
I hope this quick comparison was thorough and clear, if you think I missed something that you would like me to add, please comment below.
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screen may be larger with same resolution, but due to RGB matrix it has more subpixels. 50% more subpixels to be exact. so if you work it out, the subpixel density ends up being higher on the note 2, which is noticeable to most people who have used both.
correct me if im wrong, but i think the GPU on the note 2 is also slightly higher clocked.
galaxy s3 battery is 2100mah. galaxy note 2 battery is 3100mah. 3100mah/2100mah = 47% bigger battery, not 24%.
Souai said:
screen may be larger with same resolution, but due to RGB matrix it has more subpixels. 50% more subpixels to be exact. so if you work it out, the subpixel density ends up being higher on the note 2, which is noticeable to most people who have used both.
correct me if im wrong, but i think the GPU on the note 2 is also slightly higher clocked.
galaxy s3 battery is 2100mah. galaxy note 2 battery is 3100mah. 3100mah/2100mah = 47% bigger battery, not 24%.
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Well yea, transition from pentile to RGB makes the screen more beautiful and crispier even after the relatively big DPI drop due to the bump in the screen size.
I am using both phones side by side everyday. Practically I prefer the smaller S3 which fits into my pocket.
I will asked my wife to carry my N2 in her handbag or else I leave it at home. I had my N2 screen damaged
the last time I carry it in my tight jeans. It is too inconvenient to hand carry it in my palm all the time and
made me look like a flashy gadget freak.
The S3 display looks more crisp and brighter. But the N2 is bigger.
The S3 sounds better. The N2 speaker gets distorted at the highest level.
The S3 battery drains faster compared to my N2. But I use the S3 more than the N2 to make and receive calls.
The S3 is lighter even to be hand carry for the whole day and it does not pull your pocket towards gravity.
The S3 lacks the S-pen. But I do my work on my Wacom Cintiq instead of the N2.
Magnumutz said:
My N7100 (the international version) has the lanyard hole, don't know about the S3 though, never searched for the hole
But trust me, the difference between them is huge.
You get double the RAM, more screen estate, more battery and the best AMOLED yet.
I've gone this route and i'm sure as hell loving it!
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When I bought my note the price difference was around $90 which I thought was worth it.
It does not have a lanyard hole, although I recommend you buy a decent cover the comes with one.
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Bros, why two contradicting info? different variant also got different with the lanyard hole? haha.
anyway yeah thanks to u guys i think im skewed towards Note 2. I dont like wearing covers (its a big enough phone already! + complete disrespect for the phone designer lol, why pay for a beautiful design to cover it up) but might force to if it dont have one. I certainly dislike phone without lanyard hole, its a necessary design! I blame the ever-popular iphone to start the hipster no lanyard hole trend.
That or maybe just get the damn Acro S.
The only thing I can think of that looks like a lanyard holder on my international note2 is the cover over the speaker on the back. Is this what you mean? Because if it is then its part of the back cover so would be pretty useless...
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Go for note 2.....love it.....
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I went ahead and updated my dad's old Note I to the 4.1.2 official leak, and then rooted it to use Tegra Overclock. I put the CPU at 1.6Ghz, and made sure Tegra Overclock saw it as stable. I then downloaded Benchmark Pi on both his Note and Note II. After several attempts, both the Note I and Note II averaged around 500+ on their scores.
The Note II is still at stock.
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I went ahead and updated my dad's old Note I to the 4.1.2 official leak, and then rooted it to use Tegra Overclock. I put the CPU at 1.6Ghz, and made sure Tegra Overclock saw it as stable. I then downloaded Benchmark Pi on both his Note and Note II. After several attempts, both the Note I and Note II averaged around 500+ on their scores.
The Note II is still at stock.
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Heatshiver said:
I went ahead and updated my dad's old Note I to the 4.1.2 official leak, and then rooted it to use Tegra Overclock. I put the CPU at 1.6Ghz, and made sure Tegra Overclock saw it as stable. I then downloaded Benchmark Pi on both his Note and Note II. After several attempts, both the Note I and Note II averaged around 500+ on their scores.
The Note II is still at stock.
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Comparing with the old Note1, the Note2 has the same gpu, also the same cpu family, only overclocked.
This is most likely both has almost the same results.
Samsung just recycled old technologies to produce the Note2 and S3, which I did not like.
BTW, u said u used Tegrak Overclock on Note1 JB 4.1.2.
Details of the app says it only supports GB & ICS roms for Note1. Thx for letting us know it works on JB.
I should try this myself.
A quad core and a dual core makes quite a big difference imho - I may be wrong though.
KBS720 said:
Comparing with the old Note1, the Note2 has the same gpu, also the same cpu family, only overclocked.
This is most likely both has almost the same results.
Samsung just recycled old technologies to produce the Note2 and S3, which I did not like.
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Note 2 is a next gen phone. Definitely its better than previous. The thing here is our note is still fighting with the newer gen, but i wont agree that both can have same performance.
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A quad core and a dual core makes quite a big difference imho - I may be wrong though.
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If I'm not mistaken, BenchmarkPi only tests the speed of one core. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
The last update of BenchmarkPi was 2009. I'm pretty sure most android devices only single core processors at that time.
So if both have the same processor and clock speed, the number of cores doesn't matter.
My GF has the S3 (also quad core) and too be honest it isnt much better than my note, sure its obviously more powerful, but it still lags now and then, games on my note run just as smooth as they do on the S3, although 3d cpu intensive games will probably out perform my Note, but hey, thats why i have a ps3 and xbox.
all in all the note will be slightly better, but it most definitely isnt a worthy upgrade from the note 1.
the note 3 is the phone to look out for !
display
display wise, i will definitely choose galaxy note 2, but for the design, i will always choose note 1 anyday
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My GF has the S3 (also quad core) and too be honest it isnt much better than my note, sure its obviously more powerful, but it still lags now and then, games on my note run just as smooth as they do on the S3, although 3d cpu intensive games will probably out perform my Note, but hey, thats why i have a ps3 and xbox.
all in all the note will be slightly better, but it most definitely isnt a worthy upgrade from the note 1.
the note 3 is the phone to look out for !
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Thats a true comment....i have somewhat same observations....plus note 1 display looks much more better than s3
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Seriously? I went to AT&T store to check out Note 2, and taking photo's were even very fast compared to Note 1. I would call that a huge difference. Opening web browser and typing something in, then when done loading, try open another tab, go back to your original tab, zoom in, zoom out, pan, task switching, going into different menus in system settings, and go back and fourth. I immediately felt the difference in speed and responsiveness. The dialer is at least twice faster than the Note 1 too. (Note 1 takes about 2-4 seconds to load which is slower than any dumb phone.)
My Note 1 is ICS XXLRT (latest ICS) with most junk (social stuff) removed. I feel my Note is slow, but I'll try to use it for one more year.
I agree but most things you say are long known problems of ICS, present in every device with that version no matter the hardware (especially the dialer/contacts one). I tell you this cause my previous - now, app testing - phone was a Nexus S and even it is faster than the Note opening those phone functions.
This things will surely improve with official JB. Other than that, Note2 will always be slightly smoother but won't see much differences (and forget the benchmarks: quad cores are not a huge improvement over dual, another common mistake)
cjayceguerra said:
display wise, i will definitely choose galaxy note 2, but for the design, i will always choose note 1 anyday
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Actually I find the Note's screen better than the Note 2...
Resolution wise... Just a bit larger resolution on the Note compared to the Note 2, but hey, the more pixels the better!!! :laugh:
I will definitely wait for the Note 3, which has been rumored on CES by the way!
Here: http://androids.ac/W0EFVH
I finally decided to upgrade to the Note 2 after being on the fence for a long time, just as many of you may have been. In fact, I just received the Note 2 (international unlocked version) yesterday night, and played around with it for about 2 hours.
In my mind, the upgrade is completely worth it, assuming you have the money, of course. If not, then the Note I is still a very serviceable phone, but I decided that the larger battery, LED notification light, better CPU, ability to take out the microSD card without removing the battery, no EMMC bug, and double the RAM all make it worth the money to upgrade, for me. YMMV, of course. I admit that I do prefer the physical build of the Note 1 over the Note 2, but to be honest, that is just a matter of personal aesthetics, and I doubt I will really care about that after a few months of using the Note 2.
I primarily had some reservations about the slightly lower resolution and the 16:9 aspect ratio of the GN2 compared to the original Note, but after having compared them side-to-side, the extremely small size I'm losing width-wise is more than made up for the rather significant increase length-wise. The only thing that I'm sort of disappointed about is the fact that I'll have to buy a new MHL adapter, since the Note 1 adapter does not work with the GN2.
+1 still on note1
waiting for note3 or s4
I don't know who is lying to themselves but after installing the leak and coming from a gs3 the note 1 lags way to much on JB!!!
Now its back on ICS and seems fine. The extra two cores and higher clocked GPU make the difference.
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My note 1 will afford me the ability to wait for the note 3. And even then I'll wait for it to go down in price first.
AW: Note I vs. Note II
If you own the Not1 you need not necessarily the Note2. I'm also on the Note3.
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DPMAce said:
My note 1 will afford me the ability to wait for the note 3. And even then I'll wait for it to go down in price first.
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I just compared note and note 2 in my local tech store. My note is running leaked LSA 4.1.2 and the note 2 at the store, was running jb 4.1.1.
I have to say, that there isn't that much difference, when both are running official JB, imo. Note 2 is snappier, but only little. Also my note's JB is still a leaked version.There might come improvements, when the official JB comes out for our note.
That said, I can easily wait for note 3, 'cause Samsung gives this great update for older note too and at the same time, it's packed with all the neat features, that note 2 has.
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Even then the only real HOLY sh!t factor I think is the camera at 13mp
the real catch I want from samsung is to innovate the god dam battery , somehow include a screen that can re-capture light energy ala solar panel
Right now I'm rocking the note1 with an extended brick battery from seidio to get through one day of work.
FYI I'm on Governor restricted cpu of 1ghz , and it's conservative mode
So I'm thinking of coming over to the N4 but worry that its not much better than the note I have. I'm mainly looking for more speed and RAM (including fully working butter on vanilla android)
I don't use the s pen so that's no worries, and the screen could be a little smaller (I'm not someone who keeps wanting bigger).
I don't have masses of data, 16gb would probably do.
Is the battery life comparable? I get around 4h on WiFi with the lowest screen brightness, airplane mode with web browsing.
It would be interesting to hear from other people who came from the note.
Thanks in advance
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I ve got note n7000. Great phone, display, battery, camera. I love it, root-> uninstall stupid apps to get more free RAM and then is fucccccking awesome i used many roms, but stock jelly bean + root is what am i using now
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Having had both the Note 1 and Note 2 i can definately say the N4 is waaaaaaaaaay better than the Note 1. I found the Note 1 laggy and battery life was not spectacular, because it only had a dual core cpu and a older gpu off course. The Note 2 is much much better and choosing between both the Note 2 and N4 is hard and is a matter of preference.
But that aside i would gladly swith from the Note 1 to the N4 if it we`re me because of the incredible user xperience in speed, fluidity and customizebility.
gee2012 said:
Having had both the Note 1 and Note 2 i can definately say the N4 is waaaaaaaaaay better than the Note 1. I found the Note 1 laggy and battery life was not spectacular, because it only had a dual core cpu and a older gpu off course. The Note 2 is much much better and choosing between both the Note 2 and N4 is hard and is a matter of preference.
But that aside i would gladly swith from the Note 1 to the N4 if it we`re me because of the incredible user xperience in speed, fluidity and customizebility.
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Thanks for your opinion. It does lag a bit, especially with CM10 where butter is not fully implemented.
The other main concern I forgot to add was the camera. I don't use the camera a massive amount on the Note 1 but I'd rather not go backwards to the N4. I only ask because the N4 hasn't got great reviews for the camera.
The N4's camera isn't great but it's not awful either. It wouldn't be a huge step back from the Note at all, and the benefits of the N4 are just so much huger that there's no doubting that it's better. As for battery life, it gets me through the day without issues and I expect you can manage around 4 hours of web browsing on the lowest brightness. I get 2 and a half hours of a variety of things on full brightness with WiFi/Mobile data usually on and am left with 20% battery at the end of the day.
OK so camera is probably a sideways, if not slight downgrade but I can deal with that.
The most annoying things about android phones for me is the screen latency, it takes a few m/s to register your finger where as the iphones react to swypes and touches better. Does the n4 come closer to that or is it the same screen latency as the note 1.
I've just score between 7800 and 8400 on antutu. What are you guys getting?
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OK so camera is probably a sideways, if not slight downgrade but I can deal with that.
The most annoying things about android phones for me is the screen latency, it takes a few m/s to register your finger where as the iphones react to swypes and touches better. Does the n4 come closer to that or is it the same screen latency as the note 1.
I've just score between 7800 and 8400 on antutu. What are you guys getting?
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I haven't had latency issues. I get between 18000 and 22000 depending on the ROM/kernel.
Anyone who used to own a note 2 ? How does the s4 compare minus the new features. Were talking about speed, app switching , wifi , browser etc. i used to have a note 2 and it was an absolute beast best phone I've ever had
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Anyone who used to own a note 2 ? How does the s4 compare minus the new features. Were talking about speed, app switching , wifi , browser etc. i used to have a note 2 and it was an absolute beast best phone I've ever had
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I agree.note 2 still good gadget.off course s4 is lot of new technology but if using as daily hp,note 2 still good choice coz wat ever games or apllication still can run smoothly.battery life also much better.i m using both s4 n note 2 but for browsing i m still using note 2.
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Anyone who used to own a note 2 ? How does the s4 compare minus the new features. Were talking about speed, app switching , wifi , browser etc. i used to have a note 2 and it was an absolute beast best phone I've ever had
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i have Note 2 right now and i am gonna sell it tomorrow to get S4. i went to store this week to test S4 before purchase. S4 was faster than Note 2. you will not note it that much but i have my own kinda "steps" to compare the smartphones.
the only issue i have and i fear is the over heating issue of S4. i guess it will be gone because even my S3 used to get very hot in the beginning when i purchased it last year but later updates resolved the issue.
so im hoping S4 would also get an update for the over heating issue.
other than that, S4 has almost 80% better screen than Note 2! and im a movie buff and heavy internet user so i love the screen of S4. camera performance is also great. i will recommend u to get S4
choice is your though
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i have Note 2 right now and i am gonna sell it tomorrow to get S4. i went to store this week to test S4 before purchase. S4 was faster than Note 2. you will not note it that much but i have my own kinda "steps" to compare the smartphones.
the only issue i have and i fear is the over heating issue of S4. i guess it will be gone because even my S3 used to get very hot in the beginning when i purchased it last year but later updates resolved the issue.
so im hoping S4 would also get an update for the over heating issue.
other than that, S4 has almost 80% better screen than Note 2! and im a movie buff and heavy internet user so i love the screen of S4. camera performance is also great. i will recommend u to get S4
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How do you measure that "80% better screen" part exactly? For me, at least on such smaller screens, 1080p is a bit pointless. The high ppi is great though as it's pentile and I could clearly see the graininess on S3, which I can't on S4. While watching movies, I personally can't notice any difference between N2 and S4 - and N2 has more screen real estate, ergo I prefer it for watching movies than S4. And personally, I prefer rgb over pentile (personal preference though).
However where you would notice a difference is while browsing - the screen is marginally sharper than N2. Again that's my experience from using S4 briefly although I don't plan to own one.
As for speed, both phones are fast when it comes to the UI, but without doubt S4 will handle resource intensive tasks better. But Note 2 has handled anything I've thrown at it well without any issues so far anyways. Hell, even S2 handles most apps fine even now, so that shouldn't be a problem with either of these devices.
As far as perfornence concerned...after all note 2 is better
S4's octa cores are better only for bencmark & gimmic...whereas note is real performer...no heat issue, more ram available , heating & more battery friendly....everybody knows these are key features to be better performmer
Bigger screen
Wel costomized firmware
Better battery
No such heatin problem
More free ram
Now much cheaper than s4
Great dev support in XDA
(u can use all kind of roms, apps tweaks & mods...even many s4 features )
S pen creativity
And dont forget...Fm app
I think untill note 3 or s5, note 2 is best deal
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Lets see s4 features
Screen smearing
Battery draining
Heating
Jerks in TW
More bloatwares ...almost half of 16 gb
More to come
ipsuvedi said:
As far as perfornence concerned...after all note 2 is better
S4's octa cores are better only for bencmark & gimmic...whereas note is real performer...no heat issue, more ram available , heating & more battery friendly....everybody knows these are key features to be better performmer
Bigger screen
Wel costomized firmware
Better battery
No such heatin problem
More free ram
Now much cheaper than s4
Great dev support in XDA
(u can use all kind of roms, apps tweaks & mods...even many s4 features )
S pen creativity
And dont forget...Fm app
I think untill note 3 or s5, note 2 is best deal
.............
Lets see s4 features
Screen smearing
Battery draining
Heating
Jerks in TW
More bloatwares ...almost half of 16 gb
More to come
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Note 2 seems faster, perhaps due to the chipset having half the pixels to push data to.
I agree that with a display this size, 1080 seems overkill if compromising performance. That said, I may just be rationalzing since Verizon might only be offering the 16gb model and I will not trade my 32gb S3 for that.
ipsuvedi said:
As far as perfornence concerned...after all note 2 is better
S4's octa cores are better only for bencmark & gimmic...whereas note is real performer...no heat issue, more ram available , heating & more battery friendly....everybody knows these are key features to be better performmer
Bigger screen
Wel costomized firmware
Better battery
No such heatin problem
More free ram
Now much cheaper than s4
Great dev support in XDA
(u can use all kind of roms, apps tweaks & mods...even many s4 features )
S pen creativity
And dont forget...Fm app
I think untill note 3 or s5, note 2 is best deal
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Lets see s4 features
Screen smearing
Battery draining
Heating
Jerks in TW
More bloatwares ...almost half of 16 gb
More to come
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tuxonhtc said:
How do you measure that "80% better screen" part exactly? For me, at least on such smaller screens, 1080p is a bit pointless. The high ppi is great though as it's pentile and I could clearly see the graininess on S3, which I can't on S4. While watching movies, I personally can't notice any difference between N2 and S4 - and N2 has more screen real estate, ergo I prefer it for watching movies than S4. And personally, I prefer rgb over pentile (personal preference though).
However where you would notice a difference is while browsing - the screen is marginally sharper than N2. Again that's my experience from using S4 briefly although I don't plan to own one.
As for speed, both phones are fast when it comes to the UI, but without doubt S4 will handle resource intensive tasks better. But Note 2 has handled anything I've thrown at it well without any issues so far anyways. Hell, even S2 handles most apps fine even now, so that shouldn't be a problem with either of these devices.
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u asked me to explain and wrote all that long comment or urs... lols
any ways... 80% better screen means i can see more pixels on note 2 screen than i could on my S3. note 2 screen is better for watching videos and thats it. anything higher than 720p was sharper but below that i can see pixels. there is also black clipping on some of the note 2 devices as reported by some of users. but s4 just does not have that. dont know how u can say s4 screen is just a tad sharper than note 2 screen i found it to be a lot sharper than note 2 screen! and just cause of the sheer size of the screen and so widely spread pixels cause of the lower resolution, the note 2 really got hot after using especially when more whites are displayed on the screen. it used to lag a lot when going from app drawer to the widget section and the lag is considerably lowered now in s4.
so over all s4 is better than note 2 in almost every way and oh the s pen, dont talk about that! cause until dont have real good use scenario for it or u have lots of free time and u have really good drawing and hand writing its useless and i really didnt use it that much after my first 10 days with note 2!
aami.aami said:
u asked me to explain and wrote all that long comment or urs... lols
any ways... 80% better screen means i can see more pixels on note 2 screen than i could on my S3. note 2 screen is better for watching videos and thats it. anything higher than 720p was sharper but below that i can see pixels. there is also black clipping on some of the note 2 devices as reported by some of users. but s4 just does not have that. dont know how u can say s4 screen is just a tad sharper than note 2 screen i found it to be a lot sharper than note 2 screen! and just cause of the sheer size of the screen and so widely spread pixels cause of the lower resolution, the note 2 really got hot after using especially when more whites are displayed on the screen. it used to lag a lot when going from app drawer to the widget section and the lag is considerably lowered now in s4.
so over all s4 is better than note 2 in almost every way and oh the s pen, dont talk about that! cause until dont have real good use scenario for it or u have lots of free time and u have really good drawing and hand writing its useless and i really didnt use it that much after my first 10 days with note 2!
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You can see pixels on Note 2? You must have super vision or something. I do see grainyness on S3 if I look hard, but Note II? Really? Especially since the Note II has larger pixels. Probably placebo effect IMO.
I never had black clipping (and from what I hear from Erica, Note II is better than S4 in this regard, not the other way - either way it's fixable), and I've browsed a lot on Note II with full brightness on (websites typically have white background) and there were no throttling issues or overheating, unlike reported by some S4 users (which should hopefully be fixable) for me. And that's even without the power saving blue tint (It has some sort of greenish tint, which I got rid with Perseus). And what makes you think that lower pixel density is what causes overheating anyways?
And the lag is entirely touchwiz, not hardware (unless you're somehow suggesting a quad core device with 2gb RAM would lag in widget drawer) - though for me lag was not that apparent (solved entirely with Nova+custom ROM) - many people with S4 has that too, but apparently fixed with firmware upgrade.
Anywho, whatever suits you mate S4 is a great phone nevertheless.