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Does the low price of the Play indicate it hasn't sold well?

Unlike the Arc in the UK the Play seems to have experienced a sharp drop in price, it's not hard to find a SIM free version for sub £300. The only reason I can think for this is poor sales. Would I be right in that assumption?

Support from SE Is very weak, the playstation store for games hasn't being available for every country and the selection is pee.
FPSE are not user friendly is another reason. I guess 3rd party devs aren't interested in porting games like ff, tekkens, mgs, etc
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I bought my play when it first came out for £300 so it's not that much of a price drop
Problem with the play is, its a niche device, it only appeals to hardcore gamers......
But as a device i cant really fault it, its fast, looks good, plays games great even though many would say it lacks power, the gps is amazing......
Think of it like the sega dreamcast a bit of an underated gem

Cat_On_Droid said:
Support from SE Is very weak, the playstation store for games hasn't being available for every country and the selection is pee.
FPSE are not user friendly is another reason. I guess 3rd party devs aren't interested in porting games like ff, tekkens, mgs, etc
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The playstation store hasnt gone live yet thats why it's not availible in all countries It's still in beta
FPse works awsome on the play wth

Cat_On_Droid said:
Support from SE Is very weak, the playstation store for games hasn't being available for every country and the selection is pee.
FPSE are not user friendly is another reason. I guess 3rd party devs aren't interested in porting games like ff, tekkens, mgs, etc
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I dunno if I'd say support has been weak seeing as they secured the three biggest titles exclusively for it: minecraft, Fifa and Dead space.
Wait for pan support and then you'll see what It was meant to be.
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The price has dropped significantly here in the US as well. Sony really bungled this one. The device just recently started to be advertised (and that was after the price drop and moreso as a "cheap" phone since its only 99 bucks) and even supporters like myself are a bit frustrated because there really is no support by SE here, while there have been 9 or 10 playstation game releases in Europe, some are not available at all, and the rest are visible in the market but carrier locked for some strange reason. The Playstation suite is not available yet as well.
Maybe they are waiting to market it once the Suite is ready so theres a lot of features and games up for sale, but at that point the device will be almost dead.

AndroHero said:
The playstation store hasnt gone live yet thats why it's not availible in all countries It's still in beta
FPse works awsome on the play wth
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But an average bob who wants to play tekken , Spyro, gt WILL finding it confusing on how to use emulators. It's not as user friendly as playstation pocket, where customers browse et buy
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AndroHero said:
Think of it like the sega dreamcast a bit of an underated gem
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You can say that again.
The Xperia PLAY not only stopped me from caring about dual-cores, but it's performance has left so little to be desired that I finally get to re-imagine my iPhone favorites as real games with real controls, and have a device so versatile that I didn't just replace my phone, I haven't been playing my PSP/DS as much :\

TLRtheory said:
You can say that again.
The Xperia PLAY not only stopped me from caring about dual-cores, but it's performance has left so little to be desired that I finally get to re-imagine my iPhone favorites as real games with real controls, and have a device so versatile that I didn't just replace my phone, I haven't been playing my PSP/DS as much :\
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PSP................... Oh s**t i majorly forgot i had one of those . I totally agree, i only really game on my Xplay, Xbox or Ps3 now. The play may not be a dedicated gaming device but it scratches the itch i get when im out and about. It fast enough to play anything i want it to. Enough said.
@ Cat_On_Droid. Anyone who doesnt know how to use it (fpse) will normally search for info on how to. Googling Fpse guides brings up more than enough info on how to use/set up. If you can use a normal emulator like Gameboid etc. Then using FPSE is not much harder.
Oh and i also frickin loved the dreamcast

I actually think that it is picking up on sales now. I know a lot of people who are planning on buying and seeing an increase of people on forums doing the same.
I think for the US market it really got hit hard because Verizon held back the update so long and also didn't allow any unlocking.
Once AT&T launches it's 3G version I am sure it will take off in the US market as well as being able to hook up to some form of the PSN with the 2.3.4 update.
Not sure about the UK but the price itself put off a lot of people.
In my country I could buy 2 PS3's for the price of one Xperia Play... this should not be the case with a phone that plays games that are 2Gens behind the current PS.
If they had priced it cheaper in the first place it would have sold faster.

I have seen this commercial on TV twice now
GAMEPAAAAAAD! ....what a tool

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Mozza2k11 said:
PSP................... Oh s**t i majorly forgot i had one of those . I totally agree, i only really game on my Xplay, Xbox or Ps3 now. The play may not be a dedicated gaming device but it scratches the itch i get when im out and about. It fast enough to play anything i want it to. Enough said.
@ Cat_On_Droid. Anyone who doesnt know how to use it (fpse) will normally search for info on how to. Googling Fpse guides brings up more than enough info on how to use/set up. If you can use a normal emulator like Gameboid etc. Then using FPSE is not much harder.
Obh and i also frickin loved the dreamcast
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First, you gotta pay for FPSE, that does turn off the customers abit (I understand why anyhow), second, PS pocket is advertised well, not FPSE. So people Will think that pspocket is the only means of playing ps games for those without basic knowledge of emulators, roms(u have to burn the disk aswell, which isn't user friendly again)
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First, you gotta pay for FPSE, that does turn off the customers abit (I understand why anyhow), second, PS pocket is advertised well, not FPSE. So people Will think that pspocket is the only means of playing ps games for those without basic knowledge of emulators, roms(u have to burn the disk aswell, which isn't user friendly again)
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You have to pay for PS Suite games too FPse i like any other market app, and unless you have been living in a cave you will know about FPse or its windows mobile brother FpseCE

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First, you gotta pay for FPSE, that does turn off the customers abit (I understand why anyhow), second, PS pocket is advertised well, not FPSE. So people Will think that pspocket is the only means of playing ps games for those without basic knowledge of emulators, roms(u have to burn the disk aswell, which isn't user friendly again)
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THIS.
Emulators aren't going to sell phones in major quantities and only serve to deepen the niche. The iPhone sells so well because any idiot can do basically anything it can do without much time or brain power investment.
The only way the Xplay and any successors will break out is if there is a "killer app" and an easy way to do it. PS Suite being on the phone from the factory making it easy to download a large library of classic games, and connect to your Playstation etc is the only way a phone like this would be successful. People like us who tinker around with it and take the time to learn how to do things are in the vast minority.
Lets just hope that by the time PS Suite is ready its not already too late.

They have also way over priced the PS1 games. Like games that are over 10 years old with ****ty graphics are more expensive than newer games with amazing graphics and great game play.
Sony PS would make a fortune if they sold the games at $1 a pop.. maybe $2 or maybe $1 per disc

AndroHero said:
You have to pay for PS Suite games too FPse i like any other market app, and unless you have been living in a cave you will know about FPse or its windows mobile brother FpseCE
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You do. But trust me people would rather spend 10bux on FFIX than buying fpse, getting the 4 disks to burn, use ecm tools, drag to SD, etc. You can buy PSONE game at any time. Where as using emu requires a PC. Oh and if PS suite gets a good selection the emulation would be perfect, unlike fpse which Requires slot of updates. And don't you need to pay again to update? Not sure =\
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They have also way over priced the PS1 games. Like games that are over 10 years old with ****ty graphics are more expensive than newer games with amazing graphics and great game play.
Sony PS would make a fortune if they sold the games at $1 a pop.. maybe $2 or maybe $1 per disc
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Psx games are almost always more in depth than any android game. But they still should be cheaper at like 1.99 each like you said. Gameloft games with ripped off ideas and bad gameplay with graphics that are good doesn't make a good game.

The Xperia Play needed the following changes -
1) Landscape Home Screen Support
2) Auto Brightness Dsiable Option
3) PsP emulator
4) PS1 and PSP amazing games to be available at launch rather than the shoddies
5) Alot more Xperia Play exclusives
6) Analog touchpads to have the option to "swipe" or "hold" on ALL games
7) Touchscreen Emulator Software so you could assign buttons to parts of the screen (meaning you can play all games on the pad and buttons)
8) Touchscreen functionality on the analog touchpad (so you can scroll with the analog pad when browsing etc)
9) Dual Core processor
10) 1 gig RAM
11) Possibly a 4.3 inch screen
12) Better Signal (Data strength is not as good as other phones)
13) FM Radio (data Radio is useless on a limited data allowance plan)
14) 720p Video Recording enabled
If the Play had all this, (which are not unreasonable requests for the same price tag), it would of been so much more successful.
Basically the XPlay is just a like an HTC Desire, but with a smaller screen that is often dimmer and a control pad.
It is nothing more than a bog standard Android phone that is great for playing a few emulated games.
If you do not want it for emulation, then get a Samsung Galaxy S2.

dsswoosh said:
The Xperia Play needed the following changes -
1) Landscape Home Screen Support
2) Auto Brightness Dsiable Option
3) PsP emulator
4) PS1 and PSP amazing games to be available at launch rather than the shoddies
5) Alot more Xperia Play exclusives
6) Analog touchpads to have the option to "swipe" or "hold" on ALL games
7) Touchscreen Emulator Software so you could assign buttons to parts of the screen (meaning you can play all games on the pad and buttons)
8) Touchscreen functionality on the analog touchpad (so you can scroll with the analog pad when browsing etc)
9) Dual Core processor
10) 1 gig RAM
11) Possibly a 4.3 inch screen
12) Better Signal (Data strength is not as good as other phones)
13) FM Radio (data Radio is useless on a limited data allowance plan)
14) 720p Video Recording enabled
If the Play had all this, (which are not unreasonable requests for the same price tag), it would of been so much more successful.
Basically the XPlay is just a like an HTC Desire, but with a smaller screen that is often dimmer and a control pad.
It is nothing more than a bog standard Android phone that is great for playing a few emulated games.
If you do not want it for emulation, then get a Samsung Galaxy S2.
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you know how expensive that would be @[email protected] ? anyways the phone costs 100dollarz so dont expect any of those
Those things are much better on to be on the Xperia Arc.

Cat_On_Droid said:
you know how expensive that would be @[email protected] ?
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Less than the Samsung Galaxy S2, since that has better than the specs i mentioned and still doesn't cost more than a XPlay on contract.
XPlay was way overpriced for the specs you get.
It was hardware outdated before it even hit retail.

boredom?

It looks like everyone is getting bored or fed up with the xperia play especially the devs havent seen much action in that part of the forum in weeks. I have to admit i'm also fairly fed up I mean the xperia play was supposed to be the psp of phones and all its got is 10 crappy psx titles and 150 crappy optimised apps and a few medicore and a couple of good ones. WHERES THE CONTENT??? ps suite is coming with the vita next month but its gonna be along while before it roles to north America and even longer before theres much in it.

psxpetey said:
It looks like everyone is getting bored or fed up with the xperia play especially the devs havent seen much action in that part of the forum in weeks. I have to admit i'm also fairly fed up I mean the xperia play was supposed to be the psp of phones and all its got is 10 crappy psx titles and 150 crappy optimised apps and a few medicore and a couple of good ones. WHERES THE CONTENT??? ps suite is coming with the vita next month but its gonna be along while before it roles to north America and even longer before theres much in it.
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PSP of phones
What do you mean by that?

Nope.avi
More than enough games to play on the market and using FPse my ebay account has never seen so much action getting PS1 titles that I didn't get around to playing.
Nostalgia overload!

There is no such thing as a psp phone, this is a gamepad with an android cell phone attached to it.
If your unhappy with the android platform you can always try apples ios

Apple's ios sucks I like android I'm just saying the xperia play needs some content what I mean by PSP of phones is it has gamepad etc and there's supposed to be alto of exclusive games this phone is GREAT for emulators and super smooth after you root and mod the crap out of it but the xperia play suffers BIG time because they didn't make it top notch because of the arc
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swebosdev said:
There is no such thing as a psp phone, this is a gamepad with an android cell phone attached to it.
If your unhappy with the android platform you can always try apples ios
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Exactly. It's just an Android with a gamepad that makes games easier to play. I love my XPlay and wouldn't change it for anything else (except maybe an XPlay2 ;-) )
If you're bored with the XPlay then you're just bored with Android. Personally I find ios boring compared to Android due to the lack of customization and emulators
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Bored really?
Is playing any n64 or psx game not enough?
Is playing batman arkham city or street fighter arcade edition on OnLive boring you?
There's so much you can do already.
If your bored just think of all the other phones who have to use crappy touch screen controls and play angry birds while you can play crash team racing with your awesome controls.

sfex3best said:
Bored really?
Is playing any n64 or psx game not enough?
Is playing batman arkham city or street fighter arcade edition on OnLive boring you?
There's so much you can do already.
If your bored just think of all the other phones who have to use crappy touch screen controls and play angry birds while you can play crash team racing with your awesome controls.
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i second that
1) theres over 20 emulators, an avarage 400 titles per console = approx 8000 games if not more
2) onlive = around 200 ps3/x-box/pc standered games and counting
3) ps suite = i know not many but we will see it expand this year
4) xperia play optimized = 200 games and counting
5) origanal android titles = we do have a touch screen so we can play most android market games
6) chainfire3d (root) = tegra , power vr titles
7) snapdragon gamecommand = we see the benafits later this year
and thats only the games
8) media
music = sony invented the walkman what else can i say (they know music)
bravia engine = movies are something else
much much more but hope i proved my point
9) + of course a phone
how can you be bored

I really dont see how anyone can get bored with this phone, granted i have only had mine about a week, but there is just so much you can do. I havent even unlocked mine yet, only root and CWM. If your bored with the games, then start doing other things like MODS, Tweaks, create some apps... yeah i know those are android things and not Playstation things, but every device is different, they way you do a mod or a tweak is different for most phones, so there is always something new to learn/do.

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I really dont see how anyone can get bored with this phone, granted i have only had mine about a week, but there is just so much you can do. I havent even unlocked mine yet, only root and CWM. If your bored with the games, then start doing other things like MODS, Tweaks, create some apps... yeah i know those are android things and not Playstation things, but every device is different, they way you do a mod or a tweak is different for most phones, so there is always something new to learn/do.
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after two or three months its not as fun as before but playing psx games is REALLY fun alone in the dark the new nightmare very awesome game!

Its like everyone has said here.
You have the tools in your hands. Its up to you on weather or not to take these tools and make something fun or sit there and say, "Im board"; While staring at the tool maker.

Lol I agree in part, yes emulators are awesome and onlive is good if I have a wifi connection. But as far as new content goes its pretty lame, I have pretty much given up on games from the market as I havent found one worth keeping.
But having said that im definately not bored, and there is no phone I have seen that I would rather have
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poo-tang said:
i second that
1) theres over 20 emulators, an avarage 400 titles per console = approx 8000 games if not more
2) onlive = around 200 ps3/x-box/pc standered games and counting
3) ps suite = i know not many but we will see it expand this year
4) xperia play optimized = 200 games and counting
5) origanal android titles = we do have a touch screen so we can play most android market games
6) chainfire3d (root) = tegra , power vr titles
7) snapdragon gamecommand = we see the benafits later this year
and thats only the games
8) media
music = sony invented the walkman what else can i say (they know music)
bravia engine = movies are something else
much much more but hope i proved my point
9) + of course a phone
how can you be bored
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As immature (and played out) as this is gonna sound, I believe a "****ing owned!" is in order.
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No had it for a few months and im not bored
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I wouldn't trade my play either I have 22 psx titles on it and all emulators except gen and gba and a couple of the other old ones like mame and ones that nobody has heard of I Really like the genesis emu fav one n64 Is ok also
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He only bored of his xplay coz it wont fit up his ass anymore
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I have.95 games lol!
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@pricey2009 I thought those kind of jokes got left behind in grade 8 props but to bad your not smart enough to come up with a better insult
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how can you be bored with
GTA 3
MC3
nova 2
aftermath
(FPSE)bloody roar, syphon filter (1,2,3), crash (racing, bandicoot,) tony hawk, matt hoffman, etc etc ..
SUPER MARIO, Donkey kong, STREET fighter (SNESdroid)
REAL RACING 2
etc
etc
etc
come on man... the play rules... we all know it,,,

Def not bored of GTA 3
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The psp phone

lets get real for a moment.
You bought a gamepad with a decent android cell phone attached to it.
You didnt buy a psp phone
You didnt buy a vita
Nor a ps3
This is an android. Same as all the other androids of 2011.
Spec's may be a tad different but they all run virtually the same.
Do not let the name sony fool you, it was sony Ericsson who brought the phone out and they didnt really have much to do with sony themselves, in fact they were only just recently completely bought out by them.
Do not overhype this device, its a great android device but it is not a ps3 that makes phone calls anymore than a windows phone is a portable xbox360.
If there is some great, but dont expect exclusives. Remember it is an android so any exclusive to this phone technically only means its not on the iphone or windows phone 7.
So please stop the hating and the ignorance. If you expected the xperia play to be anything more than what it is and were let down, you only have yourself to blame.

I agree with you, but the first sentence isn't needed.

Fixed it up

This thread confused me...it sounded like you were hating on the XperiaPLAY at first, then your closing sentences defend it. You should open with positive reinforcement of the device, rather than all the negative sounding things you opened with. Otherwise you'll just confuse folks, as I am still confused on your feelings about the phone haha.
I knew what I was purchasing when I bought it, and I''m super happy about it. Dis fone rulz

I love the play, there has just been a big rush of noobs on the forums though complaining about exclusives, lack of psp game, no god of war... Just want people to come back down to earth

Not sure it was It was intended to be a psp phone, does it say on the box, no, good points there tho
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the xperia play is a great device but they definitley could have put better hardware in it the arc and the play should be one phone that would make the perfect play

I love my Play! I honestly havent played much games on it! I do love the idea though that when i do want to play games, i can play better games than any other Android device out there! (by better i mean full functioning controller, instead of trying to peek around touch screen analog stick, directional pad, and finger prints!.. lol) This is by far the best Android device i have owned. (spec wise) I honestly feel like im carrying around my PSPgo at times, which i also loved that too! So basically now i have my portable game, mp3 player, portable video player, and phone all in one!
im also a Soldier, so its amazing when i have to go away for a month at a time for training!

psxpetey said:
the xperia play is a great device but they definitley could have put better hardware in it the arc and the play should be one phone that would make the perfect play
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The arc and the play have almost exactly the same hardware.
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i'm agree
they said PSP phone with exclusive game !!
but wich games ? they are android global gsmes , not even 1 sony's exclusive game
something like god of war - resistance - uncharted -little big planet ...
nothing nothing nothing
i just want to say : sony , if you kidding us and don't want to make your big games on xperia play , make a emulator for play psp and ps2 games instead
you promised to make new version of playstation suit . please do it...

It seems to me that the Xplay was made to attempt to convert casual smartphone game players to hardcore gamers that use physical controls to counter the huge loss of market share to touch screen only games by console games. Sony Ericsson doesn't seem to aim the Xplay at hardcore console gamers, but to introduce casual smartphone gamers to hardware controls. As it stands now it was implemented decently; it would've been a huge fail it the hardware controls couldn't be used to navigate but they wisely chose to include it.
The name Xperia Play seems to be a wordplay, hence PlayStation Experience, or the PlayStation Experience phone as opposed to the Google Experience phone.
Sony should be pushing PlayStation Suite pretty soon to complement the release of the Sony Tablet S, the Sony Tablet P, and the soon to be released PlayStation Vita, all of which are PlayStation Certified devices that will have access to PlayStation Suite games.
To appreciate the Xplay,one has to understand that it's purpose is to introduce PlayStation-controller-styled hardware controls to the portion of consumers who haven't been introduced to them yet. If you're anti-physical-input or you insistent on using frustrating virtual controls to play games then the Xperia Play is not for you.
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mehdi.moha said:
not even 1 sony's exclusive game
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Crash Bandicoot.
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bobbysteels216 said:
Crash Bandicoot.
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all android phones can run crash bandicoot 1,2,3 and most ps1 games via psx4driod and FPSE.
i said sony's exclusive . ps2 or psp games . only on xperia play , not playable on all android phones

This is why i made this topic ^^^^
Did you even read the first post?

mehdi.moha said:
all android phones can run crash bandicoot 1,2,3 and most ps1 games via psx4driod and FPSE.
i said sony's exclusive . ps2 or psp games . only on xperia play , not playable on all android phones
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but other android phones cant play games with a dedicated gamepad, they just have on screen controls that take up half the screen. with the play, you can enjoy more of the gaming experience, regardless of if its an exclusive game or not
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This is why i made this topic ^^^^
Did you even read the first post?
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i agree with you, it would seem that too many people have bought this phone with the expectancy of it being more than it actually is

Yeah this quickly turned into exactly what the OP was talking about. My question however is, will each PS Certified device, such as the Play, Tab S, Tab P, and Vita, require their own ported version of each game, or will the game for Play work on all and vice versa? I ask cause if each game has to be ported individually for each device, then its going to take awhile to get new games, and people just need to be patient. I also own the Tablet S. and there isnt that many games for it either, but i dont really care, i didnt buy it for the games.

The PS suite SDK is common to all the PS certified devices.

I love the play except for 2 things,
A. The touchscreen is buggy (all my friends who have one have the same problem) where it registers random touches
B. The menu keeps still forgetting when I choose Alphabetical order (but it only seems to occur in high memory usage times, eg. after quitting a memory intensive game or something)

Nhialor said:
I love the play except for 2 things,
A. The touchscreen is buggy (all my friends who have one have the same problem) where it registers random touches
B. The menu keeps still forgetting when I choose Alphabetical order (but it only seems to occur in high memory usage times, eg. after quitting a memory intensive game or something)
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My only gripes with it are lack of HDMI/MHL support and low internal storage; two things that would've significantly improved the sales, shelf life, and enjoyability of the phone. The PlayStation Vita will suffer the same lack of HDMI support.
The Xplay is an Android phone that has physical game pad controls, nothing more nothing less.
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Has XPlay bombed?

How many here think the XPlay has been a flop? I look at the list of XPlay optimized games, and I don't that much high quality console like games for it...at least any that I really REALLY I to play...

No
Maybe the Xperia Play has not done too well in terms of good quality games released on the Games for Playstation or any other Xperia Play optimized games but it still has its pros. It's perfect for a guy like me who loves to play NES and SNES games with emulators or even PSOne games on FPSe.

neverwinter said:
How many here think the XPlay has been a flop? I look at the list of XPlay optimized games, and I don't that much high quality console like games for it...at least any that I really REALLY I to play...
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Blablabla "Xplay with one year old = Xplay is a fail, is ****, is horrible".
If you get a Samsung Galaxy S3 you will find the same games but with some better graphics. And you will have to play using the touchscreen. xD
I'm tired of all people that thought that the Xplay is some kind of console. The Xplay is a normal Android mobile, with gaming controls to play more confortably the same games for another normal Android mobiles. END. It wasn't going to have exclusive games made only for it and it will never have them. So now you know what it really is, has it really been a fail? It has tons of games compatible with its physical controls (few phones have this preferent treatment). Stop just seeing the dark side of all!
If you want high quality console games and a phone then glue your desired mobile phone to a Playstation Vita or a Nintendo 3DS.
Oh, and learn to enjoy what you buy. People is begining to think it's normal to throw away their smartphones (and other similar devices) after one year (or less!) of use just because they are tired of them. That's an enormous waste of resources.

Miles Wolf said:
Blablabla "Xplay with one year old = Xplay is a fail, is ****, is horrible".
If you get a Samsung Galaxy S3 you will find the same games but with some better graphics. And you will have to play using the touchscreen. xD
I'm tired of all people that thought that the Xplay is some kind of console. The Xplay is a normal Android mobile, with gaming controls to play more confortably the same games for another normal Android mobiles. END. It wasn't going to have exclusive games made only for it and it will never have them. So now you know what it really is, has it really been a fail? It has tons of games compatible with its physical controls (few phones have this preferent treatment). Stop just seeing the dark side of all!
If you want high quality console games and a phone then glue your desired mobile phone to a Playstation Vita or a Nintendo 3DS.
Oh, and learn to enjoy what you buy. People is begining to think it's normal to throw away their smartphones (and other similar devices) after one year (or less!) of use just because they are tired of them. That's an enormous waste of resources.
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Well said
Oh and one more thing I just wanna thank Sony Ericsson for making the Xperia Play cause this is the only smartphone out there that has a physical gamepad unless of course if in the future HTC or Sony come out with something.
But for now I can boast that I have smartphone with a gamepad !

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Well said
Oh and one more thing I just wanna thank Sony Ericsson for making the Xperia Play cause this is the only smartphone out there that has a physical gamepad unless of course if in the future HTC or Sony come out with something.
But for now I can boast that I have smartphone with a gamepad !
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Although HTC said it will no longer be making slider phones, I doubt they will make a new Play
Sony seems to be running out of design ideas, so I hope they see the Play as a new opportunity to get back into the playing field. Xperia Ion looks like its going to bomb 10x harder than the Play ever would.
If Sony/Microsoft can create another good Gaming Phone, I would love to purchase it.

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Although HTC said it will no longer be making slider phones, I doubt they will make a new Play
Sony seems to be running out of design ideas, so I hope they see the Play as a new opportunity to get back into the playing field. Xperia Ion looks like its going to bomb 10x harder than the Play ever would.
If Sony/Microsoft can create another good Gaming Phone, I would love to purchase it.
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Yeah but a new gaming smartphone looks a million miles away unfortunately.

Miles Wolf said:
Blablabla "Xplay with one year old = Xplay is a fail, is ****, is horrible".
If you get a Samsung Galaxy S3 you will find the same games but with some better graphics. And you will have to play using the touchscreen. xD
I'm tired of all people that thought that the Xplay is some kind of console. The Xplay is a normal Android mobile, with gaming controls to play more confortably the same games for another normal Android mobiles. END. It wasn't going to have exclusive games made only for it and it will never have them. So now you know what it really is, has it really been a fail? It has tons of games compatible with its physical controls (few phones have this preferent treatment). Stop just seeing the dark side of all!
If you want high quality console games and a phone then glue your desired mobile phone to a Playstation Vita or a Nintendo 3DS.
Oh, and learn to enjoy what you buy. People is begining to think it's normal to throw away their smartphones (and other similar devices) after one year (or less!) of use just because they are tired of them. That's an enormous waste of resources.
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Your post is completely wrong. The device was supposed to be a gaming device. They promised us the PlayStation store and lots of PS titles but we never got them. Also if it wasn't supposed to be a gaming device then why did they even waste their money and time on a gamepad for the device. A device with PlayStation controls is a gaming device. Personally I like my play. Many games are out for it and are play optimized. So people saying there aren't many games for it need to search a little more. There is tons. And I haven't found another device with better sound than the play. Those stereo speaker have such a clear sound to it and have amazing bass. All other devices sound like they are being played underwater or sound like they are being played through a tin can. Yes SE scammed us all by not giving us what they said they would. And also the play had many games threat were play exclusives like minecraft and a few games from THD devices. If Sony were to keep up and give us what they said they were then maybe the device would've done better. If they brought more ps titles out then yes it would've done well even with outdated hardware which to me doesn't bother me in the slightest as there are very very very few games or apps that need a quad core with 1gig of ram. It's a phone not a laptop or pc. The Play is what you make of it. And mine is good as like what I have got. ICS not being given does not bother me in the slightest as ICS isn't all that great anyway. It lags because it's a RAM hog. And it's a juice drinker. GB runs better and uses less power as it isn't constantly trying to sort background processes out etc.....
Anyways that's my two cents or should I say two dollars
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God damn to many aspiring writer's on here. It's a first generation phone the one and only with physical pads. I'm thirty and hopefully will live another fifty years and ya its done. Technology is moving fast. Oh my God there will never be another phone with game pads. Look further into the future and not just a year or two ahead. I can't wait. Hopefully I can get a new liver in twenty because I drank my away.
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Commercially, I'd say so. But for those ill-concerned with sales, Xperia Play brings a LOT to the table that'll make the sales-counters stop caring. You can find other physical controller solutions out there for other smartphones, but they don't really do much aside from let you play emulators with buttons. That's good for classic games, but we're in a modern era.
Xperia Play's the absolute best smartphone gaming option for people who want MORE than classic gaming. Yeah, it's good for emulators... but you can beat dead horses with a PSP, GP32, OpenPandora, Dingoo A320, JXD S7100, Yinlips YDPG18 or any smartphone on this planet that has bluetooth... Xperia Play's about the only one that's good for people who don't just want to beat dead horses... but rather want to take advantage of that 854x480 screen and modern day improvements in game mechanics.
And when we insert that factor, no other gaming phone allows us to play MODERN games like Dead Space, Sonic 4, Shadowgun, King of Fighters, N.O.V.A. 3 and the like as well as Xperia Play does... they'll, at best, have under 50 "general d-pad compatibility" titles under their belt, but not a single one of them has hundreds of games relieved from lame-ass touch controls like Xperia Play does.
...and as crazy as it sounds, my fresh, revolutionary, beautiful Vita is getting monumentally less playtime than my Xperia Play. So yeah... might not be doing hot in sales, but as far as software support goes... I don't see this locomotive stopping any time soon.

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Commercially, I'd say so. But for those ill-concerned with sales, Xperia Play brings a LOT to the table that'll make the sales-counters stop caring. You can find other physical controller solutions out there for other smartphones, but they don't really do much aside from let you play emulators with buttons. That's good for classic games, but we're in a modern era.
Xperia Play's the absolute best smartphone gaming option for people who want MORE than classic gaming. Yeah, it's good for emulators... but you can beat dead horses with a PSP, GP32, OpenPandora, Dingoo A320, JXD S7100, Yinlips YDPG18 or any smartphone on this planet that has bluetooth... Xperia Play's about the only one that's good for people who don't just want to beat dead horses... but rather want to take advantage of that 854x480 screen and modern day improvements in game mechanics.
And when we insert that factor, no other gaming phone allows us to play MODERN games like Dead Space, Sonic 4, Shadowgun, King of Fighters, N.O.V.A. 3 and the like as well as Xperia Play does... they'll, at best, have under 50 "general d-pad compatibility" titles under their belt, but not a single one of them has hundreds of games relieved from lame-ass touch controls like Xperia Play does.
...and as crazy as it sounds, my fresh, revolutionary, beautiful Vita is getting monumentally less playtime than my Xperia Play. So yeah... might not be doing hot in sales, but as far as software support goes... I don't see this locomotive stopping any time soon.
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Amen, well said. I absolutely love my Xperia PLAY. Yeah it doesnt have the top of the line specs but who cares. This things rocks. I hate touchscreen controls. Absolutely hate them. However on my phone......awesome. Love it. Nuff said. Appreciate what you have and enjoy it.

Only God knows where the next PLAY, or PLAY-like device will come from. It could be Nintendo of all people, I mean they really don't have anything to lose. Either way, the PLAY, in my mind is falling short due to the fact that you can now use wireless gamepads on their tablets or phones, the PLAYs lack of HDMI compatibility, and other unnecessary features like HD sound, although HDMI should have been added to non-dev phones. So in other words the plays capabilities can be achieved by buying some additional accessories. So, unfortunately, I doubt that Sony alone will attempt to develop a PLAY 2, unless it turns into a last resort, as it is obviously not their biggest concern. I would try to keep som hope though.
I do agree that the play is the most supported phone when it comes to games like N.O.V.A., but as time passes, the hw gets a little more outdated, and after so long android 5.0 will come along, and gb will more or less be phased out by developers. Aside from that, it definitely rocks, especially when people look and ask "Woah, what is that?". Makes my day.
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Leraeniesh said:
Although HTC said it will no longer be making slider phones, I doubt they will make a new Play
Sony seems to be running out of design ideas, so I hope they see the Play as a new opportunity to get back into the playing field. Xperia Ion looks like its going to bomb 10x harder than the Play ever would.
If Sony/Microsoft can create another good Gaming Phone, I would love to purchase it.
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I was hoping HTC and Sony might possibly collaborate, but I hadn't heard about their slider discontinuation. Hopefully, they'll make an exception. Samsung wouldn't be bad either, but I doubt they have any interest in such things.
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IanPPK said:
I was hoping HTC and Sony might possibly collaborate, but I hadn't heard about their slider discontinuation. Hopefully, they'll make an exception. Samsung wouldn't be bad either, but I doubt they have any interest in such things.
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http://www.smartkeitai.com/microsoft-windows-phone-patent-with-interchangeable-keyboard-gamepad/
Microsoft could be our best hope

i'm still hoping to have new xperia play (( mybe by other name : xperia PSP , psp phone ... ))
i'm wondering , there is so many eager people that count the days and crossing finger for next (high-end) gameing phone , but sony still haven't plan on that .
i'm really in love with my beautiful xperia play , but i will it could be possible to change the CPU and RAM , like desktop , couse today , it's really out of date( H/W )

Portable emu.
On live.
Best in class GPS
Awesome android smartphone
720p camera and video
Game pad.
Low price in 2012
Who can ask for anything more?
Psp games? Who gives a crap because I sure don't.
Haters who own one there are few and mostly just forum trolls. How's your HDMI mehdi?
Hater who don't have one. Just jelly I got one and you don't. Oh look another head shot, ya man that's a play owner.

Xperia Play is now an outdated phone. New games doesnot seem to support play because it has an old gpu and only a single core cpu.
I think sony should come up with a new "XPERIA PLAY 2" which should have a 4.8" 720p HD screen, 1.5GB RAM, 1.6GHz Quad-Core CPU and TEGRA 3 GPU. It will be a beast, even better than PS vita...!!!!
P.s: I dont know why you people hate touch screen gaming. I love it. I reached "Rank 70 with more than 6000 kills" at modern combat 3 multiplayer" within only a month on my S2...!
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DD-Ripper said:
Xperia Play is now an outdated phone. New games doesnot seem to support play because it has an old gpu and only a single core cpu.
I think sony should come up with a new "XPERIA PLAY 2" which should have a 4.8" 720p HD screen, 1.5GB RAM, 1.6GHz Quad-Core CPU and TEGRA 3 GPU. It will be a beast, even better than PS vita...!!!!
P.s: I dont know why you people hate touch screen gaming. I love it. I reached "Rank 70 with more than 6000 kills" at modern combat 3 multiplayer" within only a month on my S2...!
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We hate touch screen gaming cause we are all gamers and need physical buttons !

i love the play.
it would have been perfect for me if it had launched with 1giga Rams and at least 2gb storage.
I'm kinda over the low RAM and will most likely upgrade to the hayabusa when it becomes available.

If Microsoft made a gaming phone..... It would dominate and blow away all competitors, even phones like the S3. But they don't even have a foot in the handheld battlefield YET. So it's probably not gonna happen for a long time. Xplay is cool and yeah people get bored of it quite easily. But I look at it as the stepping stone for much greater things ahead. Just hope I'll be alive and not have crazy arthritis or something to be able to enjoy it. Our kids are gonna have some crazy high tech stuff when we're all old and they'll take our places in these forums lol.

sufy1000 said:
We hate touch screen gaming cause we are all gamers and need physical buttons !
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Then why you people buy touchscreen phones??
Whats wrong with qwerty keypad phones..? They have physical buttons.!
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Xperia Play Alternative? Not Even Close!

So i was just browsing around and apparently XOLO is releasing a new gaming phone. At first i was excited cause the name was "XOLO Play" and i don't know about you guys but that very sounded familiar. So yeah with my heart full of hope and my head full of dreams i clicked on the link, and thats when i got angry. NO PHYSICAL CONTROLS!!!!!!! Come on now, just cause you call it a gaming phone doesn't make it a gaming phone, and if you are going to call it a gaming (no physical controls) phone at least give is some out of this world sick specs. These don't even compare to the latest phones let alone make it a genuine gaming phone. Compare this to the HTC ONE, Sony Xperia Z, or the Samsung GS4 and it pretty much nothing.
Are you guys feeling the same way about these so called "Gaming Phones"?
http://www.techtree.com/content/news/4114/xolo-play-nvidia-tegra-3-smartphone-launching.html
XPERIA PLAY 2 WHERE ARE YOU?

yeah it's a pity
i would use my old nokia and buy a gcw zero handheld instead of buying a high-tech phone when my play dies. just bought the play for emulation on the go.
it's my new n-gage (had both of them ) as it should be - just a lot more fragile

i'll buy that on first day , if that has physical gamepad.
but how ! how a phone can serve to gamers without pgysical game pad ????!!1
suerly , without gamepad , xperia ZU is much better that it ....
where is xoeria play 2

I think there will be no Xperia play. Sony decided to join that race for fast and thinner handset, there no room for chunky gaming phone for nerds
But seriously, if not Sony there will be other manufacturer. When you look how games develop on Google Play market. I know majority of people play Angry birds, Candy crush saga etc. so they don't need pad to play. But from other side you got games like MC, NOVA or even DH, that games played smearing your fingers on screen seems wrong and these games need proper gamepad.
Btw. found this on YT, interesting concept:

at the moment i don't think there is a profitable market for aaa console class games. since android seriously has to deal with piracy and every dev seem to push the price even lower. it came so far that newer games have to use in app purchases to get the development costs back in.
a market could be created however. when some bin manufactures decide to do real gaming devices like a psp vita.
or we need something like steam on android where the consumer base is already there (linux gaming is coming because of this - so will the 3d drivers for linux be improved over time because the market is there).
there are actually a few android gaming devices (especially in china). also the new handheld from nvidia is based on android. i wouldn't say there won't be any real gaming phone in the future.

I believe there will never be another phone with gaming controls built in. As far as buying a regular phone to game on, you can't beat an inexpensive Nexus 4. There's lots of them used up for sale. With a Snapdragon S4 Pro quadcore and 2Gb of ram, it really is a gaming powerhouse. You can't get anything close to that price.

bartmw said:
I think there will be no Xperia play. Sony decided to join that race for fast and thinner handset, there no room for chunky gaming phone for nerds
But seriously, if not Sony there will be other manufacturer. When you look how games develop on Google Play market. I know majority of people play Angry birds, Candy crush saga etc. so they don't need pad to play. But from other side you got games like MC, NOVA or even DH, that games played smearing your fingers on screen seems wrong and these games need proper gamepad.
Btw. found this on YT, interesting concept:
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konstruktor said:
at the moment i don't think there is a profitable market for aaa console class games. since android seriously has to deal with piracy and every dev seem to push the price even lower. it came so far that newer games have to use in app purchases to get the development costs back in.
a market could be created however. when some bin manufactures decide to do real gaming devices like a psp vita.
or we need something like steam on android where the consumer base is already there (linux gaming is coming because of this - so will the 3d drivers for linux be improved over time because the market is there).
there are actually a few android gaming devices (especially in china). also the new handheld from nvidia is based on android. i wouldn't say there won't be any real gaming phone in the future.
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Interesting video but a few thinks wrong no L/R triggers and no joystick/touchpads also its windows but still interesting.
Yeah there are ALOT of android gaming devices but we want a android gaming phone.
Also the xperia play 2 could be thin if if they wanted too. That would also make the phone slightly uncomfortable though, but thats the good thing about android customization and variety it fat phones just down right sicken you then go get a different phone, but i want gaming controls so a fat phone sounds fine to me.

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I'm so confused...
How can they label that a 'Gaming' smartphone? Specifications of other smartphones far surpass that of the XOLO Play and considering it lacks any form of hardware controller it is no different to every other phone that is released at the moment.
Not to mention the 12 core ULV GPU is seriously crap in the Tegra 3. It's not much better than the Adreno 205 in my opinion. CPU is great though...

They got peoples attention lol

I think i'll keep my money for something else

konstruktor said:
yeah it's a pity
i would use my old nokia and buy a gcw zero handheld instead of buying a high-tech phone when my play dies. just bought the play for emulation on the go.
it's my new n-gage (had both of them ) as it should be - just a lot more fragile
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Same here, had both N-gages as well.
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