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washed out colors

Hi,
i just got the HTC legend last night and noticed that the colors are a little washed out at anything under 40% brightness, even the gray areas of the theme are brownish and at the lowest brightness level all the the dark coolers have a brown tint.
its only ok when its at 100% brightness .
is this normal or should i renter it ?

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Same here. And I remember some reviewers also complained about yellow tint on low brightness levels. So it's probably the way this display is supposed to be, unfortunately.
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thanks, i would like to hear from more users to verify this .

mine is the same as well but my screen is also showing pinkinsh grey hue on certain websites. If you browse to www.htc.com you'll see that the flash banner's background have a tint of pinkness. This is the htc desire issue as well in the topic below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656128

that's weird i opened HTC's web site and the grey is showing grey !!
can someone kindly post a pic with the lowest brightness ? like the one i posted.

quattro_rs said:
that's weird i opened HTC's web site and the grey is showing grey !!
can someone kindly post a pic with the lowest brightness ? like the one i posted.
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really? mine's NOT!!! LEMON?

I have the same problem, i can't understand if all legend have this issue.
Do you know someone that see all grey as grey?
Excuse me for my english, i'm italian.

according to Adobe. the grey that they are using is not suitable as a web color.....

r47z said:
really? mine's NOT!!! LEMON?
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at 100% brightness all grey looks grey " web pages, theme, etc" but as soon as i go ~40% the brown becomes noticeable everywhere, when i hit the lowest brightness things get really ugly .

on mine only the very lowest getting looks wrong however I also own a cowon s9 and that has an amoled screen to and on the lowest brightness colors go off on that to. id say its got something to Do with amoled screens as they have no blight so lowering the brightness feeds less power to the scrwen.
or least I think thats how they work
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this I would assume has something to do with how an amoled screen works I own other amoled devices and they all exhibit similar behavior.
as far as I know amoled has no back lights so when the brightness is lowered the power provided to the screen is diminished causing it to incorrectly display certain colors
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soz for double
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I set the brightness at the max but the web pages are still pink (htc.com).
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the pink hue is caused because the screens that HTC use have the process aligned in a pen and tile config. there is an extensive article about this based on the nexus one.do a Google search
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I wish I could calibrate the phone's screen like how we calibrate our lcd panels.. LOL

I understood that only deisre and nexus have this type of screen ours are normal amoled

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I understood that only deisre and nexus have this type of screen ours are normal amoled
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this is true, however if htc has used these types in those 2 others its a safe assumption they would use the same in the legend
having said that mine does not look pink at all so who knows

the pink is noticeable only on particular web pages and on the gmail application.
I would understand if that is a common situation or it is present only on difected phones.

Just don't go below 40% brightness. Problem solved.
By the way, the Legend has a normal RGB-subpixel layout, therefore it shouldn't have a pink hue.

Display: SuperAmoled Plus vs NOVA (LG)

This is a little test that I've made with Optimus Black and Samsung Galaxy S II
Hope you like it
http://en.androidworld.it/2011/05/2...oled-plus-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-our-comparison/

Seems to me like you forgot to change the browser brightness?
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MaBlo said:
Seems to me like you forgot to change the browser brightness?
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YUP 100% the browser brightness is very low hence why its darker lol

yup, either browser brightness is low or you enabled "auto power savings" in display which displays darker whites to save energy...either way my whites are proper white even on low brightness so you must be doing something wrong in your test.

That, or the camera under exposed the amoled screen because of the brightness of the nova display. Keep in mind that good LCD screens like Retina display or the blackberry ones are about twice as bright as a super AMOLED screen, so the Nova display might be even better than that (but on the other hand the blacks are infinitely darker on amoled, which makes the contrast ratio infinitely better).

sorry but that looked so biased towards the optimus in the last 2 tests, if you had the SGSII at full brightness in the web browser test it clearly would of won by miles. Aswell as in the sun light test.
Edit: I retract most of that to make it in all of the tests xD.
In most of the pictures the LG Nova screen has very washed out colours especially the first one. Samsung Galaxy S II also hasn't been put on full brightness for this as the other phone obviously has. If you were trying to get away with thinking your LG Optimus Black screen was better than Super Amoled Plus then you've failed.

I set the same (maximum) brightness
It's how BlueScreenJunky said. I tried to set the brightness setting also on the camera but the result was the same

cisoprogressivo said:
I set the same (maximum) brightness
It's how BlueScreenJunky said. I tried to set the brightness setting also on the camera but the result was the same
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I really don't want to have to take pictures in all seperate conditions to show you what a real SGS II on 100% brightness looks like. -.-

cisoprogressivo said:
I set the same (maximum) brightness
It's how BlueScreenJunky said. I tried to set the brightness setting also on the camera but the result was the same
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what he meant was that there is a second setting related to power that affects screen brightness
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I don't care if the NOVA screen can wash dishes, it still comes attached to an LG phone. After my experience with the G2X and reading the O2X boards, I can't believe people are still buying LG high-end phones. LG should stick to TVs.

cisoprogressivo said:
I set the same (maximum) brightness
It's how BlueScreenJunky said. I tried to set the brightness setting also on the camera but the result was the same
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did u check that the browser brightness is set to maximum as well? Hmm I just turned mine up all the way and the whites were so bright I thought the rapture was happening after all!

Pictures don't mean a thing unless they're taken with the same camera and the same manual settings? here are 3 pictures of my SGS2 at 100% brightness with the same camera, same shutter speed (1/400 sec), same iso (400 iso), I only changed the aperture (f/1.8, f/2 and f/8):
Doesn't look that bright to me in the last picture...

New Galaxy S2 Batch Better Screen

I have bought 2 Galaxy S From the first batch for me and my.
Now I just purchased one for my father.
And his screen is much better, may be it is just the calibration
But the color seem more bright, vivid and white.
the color of mine is more yellow.
Just a thought
May be Samy improve for the last batch

No pictures and it didnt happen..
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mine is very white as well, I have seen the ones with yellowing and mine doesn't have it.

May be is only that i don't have chance and the 2 first i get is like that.
In fact i don't see a band like other thread mention, it just like calibration thing.
But it is ok, if i haven't see my dad's one i would never notice
i don't think picture would reveal that small details, and will send his phone to the dad day.
Thx

Have you checked the Settings>display> Background Effects to verify both are on the same setting, and yours isn't on movie?

I read somewhere that some specific models have a yellowish colour problem on the screen..
This really shouldn't be normal, so my best answer is to send it in for repair

No yellowing on mine all looks good.

Are both phones using the same brightness settings?
On my phone, when the brightness is low, whites have a yellow cast, but on full brightness, they look very good.

Mine is white as well. No yellowish color or pink spots on camera shots.
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Stonos said:
Are both phones using the same brightness settings?
On my phone, when the brightness is low, whites have a yellow cast, but on full brightness, they look very good.
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I'm sorry to tell you, but you have the problem
Engadget: "Affected users are reporting that the left side of their Super AMOLED Plus displays have a yellow discoloration, viewable mainly with low brightness -- especially on white and grey backgrounds."
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Source: http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/05/30/is-your-galaxy-s-iis-display-yellow-on-the-left/

bruflot said:
I'm sorry to tell you, but you have the problem
Engadget: "Affected users are reporting that the left side of their Super AMOLED Plus displays have a yellow discoloration, viewable mainly with low brightness -- especially on white and grey backgrounds."
Source: http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/05/30/is-your-galaxy-s-iis-display-yellow-on-the-left/
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What he described is not the problem that people are facing.
BTW Engadget are simply repeating what people are saying here. They have no information of their own and it was people here mailing them that alerted them to the problem in the first place.

Blue1k said:
Mine is white as well. No yellowish color or pink spots on camera shots.
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Photos?
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I've noticed on mine that the colour temperature gets warmer at lower brightnesses. Also dark grey takes on a brown cast. On full brightness it's perfect though. No left hand side yellow cast either that I can see.

There's 60 pages of discussion on this already and the points you're making have been made there a dozen times. Do we really need another 60 page thread on the exact same issue? In the other thread there's also a code to tell what version of screen you have. It would be interesting to see if the claimed "new batch" has a different version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444

Interresting, Once at home i will check that

Serav said:
I've noticed on mine that the colour temperature gets warmer at lower brightnesses. Also dark grey takes on a brown cast. On full brightness it's perfect though. No left hand side yellow cast either that I can see.
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May be with time the screen degrade.

My Sgs2 seems a bit too green. But i can't notice too much yellow..
Btw the samoled+ is just awesome..
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Just checked my screen first batch from handtech and no discoloration in any brightness setting, might be a bad batch?
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The main question arises....HAS THE BANDING issue been rectified...so i can FINALLY go head with my S2 purchase ? I'm hesitant to purchase such an expensive device..KNOWING it has a very obvious banding defect...and it seems samsung is unaware of its existence!

I had to ask this question, when I had my S8500 I always set the Brightness to 0, still the screen was enough bright with vivid colors and good contrast looked very sharp and there was no Bluish tint on the screen. But here with S-AMOLED+ if I set the Brightness to mid level or higher then the screen performs well and probably beat the former screen. But when it's set to Auto brightness it seems that the screen has a bluish effect and the whites are not perfectly white, the pictures are not that crisp like it was on the former one, in this case I'd easily say that former screen was better. Now is this a feature of S-AMOLED+ or problem? In low or 0 brightness it is the S-AMOLED which perform much better but not S-AMOLED+ !

Possible Screen Issue. Need you guys help.

So I recently got a Galaxy Note and tried some wallpaper i used on my galaxy nexus and there is strange distortion in the image where the colors transitions. I'm interested to see if this is the Galaxy Note or just my Galaxy Note. Can you guys place the image on your devices and see if it shows the same distortion.
I attached the image to this post so you can put a clean image on your device.
Here is where the distortion is but of course you won't see it in the image unless you are looking at it on your note.
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i see wht u mean ... i tried it...but i think it happens becuz the pixels turns off under the colours becuz it's black ,, u cnt see it on lcd i guess if u tried
another possible issue it's becuz every pixel has 2 sub pixels instead of two so..it cant move to another colurs

I considered that but the Galaxy Nexus has pentile display as well that is Super Amoled. I would expect to see the same thing on that device but it might be that the pixels are a bit smaller on the GN. I honestly don't know but it concerned me a bit.

I cannot see any difference between the image on my phone and on my laptop.
I have tried with Screen Adjuster at 75% and -40 contrast, and without.

Interesting.. Do you have a white note or a blk/blue version?

This is a common issue in the Q/A section. Look for the a thread about video playback issues.
In short, the Note does a very poor job at rendering black levels. At some point, it completely drops off and instead of rendering a low level black, you get a completely turned off pixel. This creates the "black pixelated" effect in the wallpaper that you see. You can see this same effect if you took the default ICS stock wallpaper. You'll see it in the bottom left side of the wallpaper when viewed from a note.
Supercurio is working on a fix. People are also hoping that ICS will provide some relief to this issue so sit tight.
It is not a hardware defect, rest assured.
This effect will also occur in videos with dark scenes. One temporary remedy for now is to use high-resolution wallpapers and high-resolution videos. If you can, try using a 2500x1600 wallpaper or something higher. This reduces the black clipping/pixelation a little but does not eliminate it. Using a brighter themed wallpaper would help as well.
If you're using a dark wallpaper thinking that it'll save you power, don't bother. It is not significant power savings due to the fact that you'll swipe through your home screen and your brightly colored icons would have activated the parts of the wallpaper that were dark anyhow.
Cheers.

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This is a common issue in the Q/A section. Look for the a thread about video playback issues.
In short, the Note does a very poor job at rendering black levels. At some point, it completely drops off and instead of rendering a low level black, you get a completely turned off pixel. This creates the "black pixelated" effect in the wallpaper that you see. You can see this same effect if you took the default ICS stock wallpaper. You'll see it in the bottom left side of the wallpaper when viewed from a note.
Supercurio is working on a fix. People are also hoping that ICS will provide some relief to this issue so sit tight.
It is not a hardware defect, rest assured.
This effect will also occur in videos with dark scenes. One temporary remedy for now is to use high-resolution wallpapers and high-resolution videos. If you can, try using a 2500x1600 wallpaper or something higher. This reduces the black clipping/pixelation a little but does not eliminate it. Using a brighter themed wallpaper would help as well.
If you're using a dark wallpaper thinking that it'll save you power, don't bother. It is not significant power savings due to the fact that you'll swipe through your home screen and your brightly colored icons would have activated the parts of the wallpaper that were dark anyhow.
Cheers.
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ahhh haa.. Thanks for that information. I have yet to see it in a video or paid close enough attention to catch it. I'm not too worried about wallpaper but when i saw that i was like hmmmm what is this about.
Thanks for that info. That answers all my questions.

This is the black crush issue which is discussed on the video issue, it also happens with images/games and basically anything on the screen.

Same issue for me

absolutely no pixelation on my note.
smooth transition to black

garytube said:
absolutely no pixelation on my note.
smooth transition to black
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Set your brightness to 0 and look at it in a dark room.

PoisonWolf said:
Set your brightness to 0 and look at it in a dark room.
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I'm aware of the issues, but there is no pixelation on my note. not with this particular picture. sorry
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Its interesting... After i read the post about the pixels being turned off the issue disappeared but I did lower the brightness and it did come back. Its apparently not an absolute under every circumstance but its definitely an issue. I'm less worried about it now though.
I gotta wait till ICS to make my final decision on whether to keep the note or to go back to the nexus

Blotches on an all black screen? Test yours here

Can you guys with cameras that have manual control test something for me?
Following on from a post by someone else about weird blotches on an all black image displayed on the screen, I checked mine today in pitch darkness and noticed a faint 2 inch or so of blackness on one edge of the screen along with smaller blotches. It doesn't appear to be as visible as the other poster's though but I exaggerated in in the photo so it's easier to see and settings posted below for people to check as well.
This is only visible on an all black screen. This does not exist on any of the S2's I've owned. I'll check my dad's S3 tonight when I go see him in the same way but the way to photograph it to keep the results consistent are as follows:
Stick camera and phone in a cupboard and...
Phone screen brightness: 50%
Camera ISO: 200
Camera Shutter: 15 seconds
Camera Aperture: f/4.5
Remember to pre-focus and use the 10sec timer to avoid shake
Those settings will over exaggerate the effect as shown in my photo below but it makes it easier for everyone to see as you do have to focus your eyes in reality and it's not immediately obvious unless you're in pitch darkness and looking at an all black screen.
I don't know how I feel about this though but if it's visible using the above camera settings for lots of people then I'll leave it as is.
Again, it's only visible on an all black screen so make sure your image that you load is all black and not grey or something Make sure screen timeout is set to at least a minute to avoid the screen going off!
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Thanks!

I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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What free app? It's a black image with screen timeout extended. The rest is your camera settings to be able to fairly photograph the screen for everyone to compare, an app can't do that

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I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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Which free app? What exactly did you do in order to notice them?

Did you see these threads Robbie?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700350
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686633

I didn't see those nope! Thanks for the links. Seems strange though as the white S3 belonging to my dad has none of the blotches, neither does a pebble blue on another forum. My 2 S2 handsets had no issues either.
Oh well!

My first phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 20sec)
Second phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 30sec)
The guy at the store (**** Smith in Australia) was unable to reproduce the issue in-store, so swapped the phone out and said I'd have to go to samsung if I reported the same issue again. The 2nd phone still has the issue, but as you can see, nowhere near as bad... still... not very good is it.
My 2 year SGS1 had about 4 spots - never noticed any issue. The first SGS3 was definitely noticeable just scrolling through system menus at night.

That's rather bad^^ I've emailed mobiflefun with picture so let's see what they say.

Suggest you up your exposure (duration and/or ISO) to make it a bit more noticeable. Looks like you've got a fair amount of guff in the top-left corner.
:/ dodgy manufacturing.

I don't have an SGSIII yet, but I noticed pretty much this same thing on my Galaxy Note. One night I was viewing an image with an all black screen and it had these weird blotches on the screen. I had never noticed them before.

Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions

Northern-Loop said:
Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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I have it too. Looks like a crack from the inside out on the bottom left corner.
I can see it in Settings/led notification screen at the bottom at night with screen brightness low.
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This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.

I saw around 10 to 15 blotches on my screen,not at all noticable in everyday use only when i looked very closely i saw them scattered around the middle.As its my first amoled phone,i want to know is it harmful for the screen?Shd i ask for replacement?Though i dont have any pink spots or tints watsoever.
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Aridon said:
My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.
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My 4 GNexus did.

Wow this looks like a widespread issue. Samsung needs to know about this

I assume samsung knew even before shipping the units.

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Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This "issue" is known since the SGS1. Is the leakege from the AMOLED display. One thing to consider i only have a line about half a CM in the same place where you have the circle mark. Maybe a manufacture failure?

quicker way to test.
1 - dark room
2 set auto brightness off and screen to lowest brightness.
go to phone and dial *#0*#
click vibrate test which will display black screen.
and then check....
p.s been through this in other threads here but mky local telco had 26 with this issue went to another telco and got a blue one today - and no issue whatsoever...