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Eric Schmidt, Dreamforce Conference San Francisco
" We have a new operating system, internally known as Ice Cream Sandwich for some reason, which is being released in October/November, which everyone's really excited about."
Yeah right
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Jason123420 said:
Yeah right
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uhh...yeah...right
For XPeria X10?
Hello!
This new version will run on my Xperia X10?
This is the Xperia X10 forum, so i guess this version will run, but i need to know
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Hello!
This new version will run on my Xperia X10?
This is the Xperia X10 forum, so i guess this version will run, but i need to know
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Well there is no official update for X10 by that time sadly.
But Sony has announced that the 2011 phones will have the update, which I think devs will be able to port it onto our X10s. Moreover there would be a CM version of it as well.
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aR_ChRiS said:
Well there is no official update for X10 by that time sadly.
But Sony has announced that the 2011 phones will have the update, which I think devs will be able to port it onto our X10s. Moreover there would be a CM version of it as well.
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Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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who knows??
The sdk isn't out, and google hasn't released the recommended minimum specs, etc...
It's a dumb convo at the moment, since there is no possible way to answer your question
I heard that the new update will be made to run even on some low spec phones so it might be possible
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I heard that the new update will be made to run even on some low spec phones so it might be possible
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I watch Google i/o all the time and they did say that they will be releasing it for low spec phones. But the problem is SE. They wont want to spend money on a phone from last year so I hate to say it. The X10 will not get 4.0 ICS officially but unofficially yes we will.
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stock roms?
lets wait for the devs to make custom android 4.0 roms so that we can use it in our aging-and-losing-official-support x10..
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lets wait for the devs to make custom android 4.0 roms so that we can use it in our aging-and-losing-official-support x10..
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"losing" it was lost since july 29
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I may have to upgrade my phone for ice cream lol
Can the x10 rly go much faster?
Doubt there will be any devs left by them
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Ice cream sandwich will be epic
There has been a few sneek peaks on the web and I like what I've seen!
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I hope it can become a reality in our x10 ... Our devs have done a great job. By Sony Ericsson we can't expect anything because they said they will not upgrade beyond 2.3, remember that they said the same thing with the upgrade to 2.1 and now we have our phones with 2.3
I'm fine with SE not releasing 4.0 for the X10. It's an old phone and I don't expect SE to bankrupt themselves just to do so. Gingerbread is pretty robust and there's a huge number of apps that work with it, it's not going anywhere for a while. I think the only other phone from that Android era that will get 4.0 is maybe the Nexus One.
However, since the '11 Xperia range *is* getting ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich), they are probably going to use the same kernel (2.3.32 - based on their prior history). With that said; Their's absolutely no reason why the devs won't be able to port ICS to the X10 (unless if Google does a 180 and doesn't release the source code - like they had with Honeycomb). As far as an official 4.0 for the X10, I doubt it and there's no reason to get anyone's hopes up or else we're going to have another full on XDA SE X10 revolt like before, haha.
It can change but I think ICS will see the X10 only through the devs.
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Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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Ice cream sandwich
or Android 4
Is "scale able"
The x10 now has a unlocked bootloader.
So it may be possible for someone to port it.
Currently honeycomb is running successfully on new tab device
I am waiting for that one on my x10
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If 4.0 launches in December then we may have to wait till march
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i hope by then there will still be dev to write for the x10. i will be using the x10 for another few years.
More on ICS, sony says maybe in march
http://mashable.com/2011/11/28/ice-cream-sandwich-lg-sony-ericsson/
I expected in Feb.But am sure our Devs will get ICS sooner
unofficial we will get ICS in weeks, maybe days. Look at the arc section. CM9 by freeXperia is alredy in work and onece GSM works it will be availeble for all 2011 Xperias and the X10.
What I really want to know is not when it comes out. What I really want to know is if it'll be worth the upgrade. Will it be as fast as gingerbread? Will we keep the battery life we have now? App compatibility?
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I hope this it true:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/11/2...-0-xperia-update-coming-1st-week-of-jan-2012/
But I highly doubt it.
I hope they don't put their custom UX over android, I love Ice cream sandwich's default design.
Sorry title should say Ice Cream Sandwich.
I mean really ?
Comment on wether you think this is really the case ?
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/ice-cream-sandwich-not-as-good-as-gingerbread-says-sony-50007560/
Sony has a real bad habit of acting like twats whenever they release a software update.
"Oh, you guys don't need Froyo, our version of Eclair is the tits!"
So true
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Bacondroid said:
Sony has a real bad habit of acting like twats whenever they release a software update.
"Oh, you guys don't need Froyo, our version of Eclair is the tits!"
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To be fair to Sony, at least they're bringing ICS.
Ageeed its obvious why sony does this stuff tho because when people are pissed everyone is talking about the device
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I like how they seem to think it's gonna run like crap. Like its gonna be the Windows Vista of the Xperia range.
Personally, after using the Ice Cream Sony ROM, I think it runs better than Gingerbread
However, that ROM has all the shovelware stripped out and frees up a LOT of internal storage. The real ICS is probably gonna be stuffed to the gills of Sony crap. I'm just gonna stick with this ROM
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I like how they seem to think it's gonna run like crap. Like its gonna be the Windows Vista of the Xperia range.
Personally, after using the Ice Cream Sony ROM, I think it runs better than Gingerbread
However, that ROM has all the shovelware stripped out and frees up a LOT of internal storage. The real ICS is probably gonna be stuffed to the gills of Sony crap. I'm just gonna stick with this ROM
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Actually Sony will give you an option to disable all the bloatware that will come in ICS which is a awesome thing !
sufy1000 said:
Actually Sony will give you an option to disable all the bloatware that will come in ICS which is a awesome thing !
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Any source on that?
Not that I'm ever going back to a stock ROM anyway but that has intrigued me somewhat.
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CTU_Loscombe said:
Any source on that?
Not that I'm ever going back to a stock ROM anyway but that has intrigued me somewhat.
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Here ya go
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/04/0...debate/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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I don't think it is that Gingerbread is "better" than ICS, but it is certainly better for current devices (dual core and less) in terms of performance. It's like installing Windows 7 on a Pentium 4. It works, but it will be slow due to CPU performance.
Honestly, I have zero issues with Gingerbread on the Play. I tried ICS for awhile. It was nice, but the loss of performance was just too much to handle. I went back to Gingerbread and everything is smooth, fast...a great gameplay experience.
I won't be moving to ICS until I own a quad core gaming phone
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I don't think it is that Gingerbread is "better" than ICS, but it is certainly better for current devices (dual core and less) in terms of performance. It's like installing Windows 7 on a Pentium 4. It works, but it will be slow due to CPU performance.
Honestly, I have zero issues with Gingerbread on the Play. I tried ICS for awhile. It was nice, but the loss of performance was just too much to handle. I went back to Gingerbread and everything is smooth, fast...a great gameplay experience.
I won't be moving to ICS until I own a quad core gaming phone
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mmm interesting. I think i'm gonna have to make a wise decision about upgrading to ICS when it's released.
Okay, if you have an X10, and you are pissed it didn't get official ICS, don't read this, especially if you know where I live
First of all, whatever about the whole eclair/froyo thing, you got GB in the end anyway.
And what? Look, the Nexus One uses the same board as the X10, and Google aren't updating the nexus one. And Sony have enough devices to update.
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I'll tell you one thing. Battery life on the stock kernel on gingerbread is better than ANY other kernel on any other rom.
well imho the hype about ICS it overrated anyway.
If you see the differneces we will get - there is barely anything I need...
The only thing I like about it is the accelerated UI - making things smoother - but if the startup will take long there for - it isn't worht it... all the smoothness is gone by then.
and if u follow up the "resons for ICS" they mentioned- the list is a joke - list of gimmics - noting important - and the important ones can be done already by 3rd party software...
Even im looking forward to an update - casue im an update junkie - I rarhter w8 a bit longer - and if it is really "slower" I even would go back...
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well imho the hype about ICS it overrated anyway.
If you see the differneces we will get - there is barely anything I need...
The only thing I like about it is the accelerated UI - making things smoother - but if the startup will take long there for - it isn't worht it... all the smoothness is gone by then.
and if u follow up the "resons for ICS" they mentioned- the list is a joke - list of gimmics - noting important - and the important ones can be done already by 3rd party software...
Even im looking forward to an update - casue im an update junkie - I rarhter w8 a bit longer - and if it is really "slower" I even would go back...
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Wait till the update is out then flash a stock ICS rom. I'm using the Ice Cream Sony rom and it runs beautifully.
Roms based on stock tend to run better than the rom they are based on
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I tried ICS. The bugs made me think my phone had broken hardware, which was a freaking scary experience, and was excruciatingly slow compared to gingerbread.
Honestly, I don't think I'll bother updating unless the official stable release improves by a large enough margin.
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I mainly like the fact its mostly native support for those 3rd party apps. I'm looking forward to the update
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I also tryed the ice cream beta
thought that gingerbread worked better, better life, faster
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I also tryed the ice cream beta
thought that gingerbread worked better, better life, faster
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Ofcourse It's going to work better.. The Ice cream sandwich rom we have is a beta. The only way we're going to know whats better is to be patient and wait for the final release rom. and then let our clever devs work on it. Personally, I'll be using ice cream sandwich, ram hog or not. The UI upgrades and the general little touches it adds are worth it in my opinion. Maybe not everyones opinion but it is mine.
I'm personally just greatful that sony are updating the phones. my brothers LG Optimus black got Gingerbread in january. We have a good company who learnt from their mistakes in the donut-eclair phases and are still giving us an ice cream sandwich update before a dual core motorola device with a gig of ram is going to get it, That shows their commitment I think.
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Ofcourse It's going to work better.. The Ice cream sandwich rom we have is a beta. The only way we're going to know whats better is to be patient and wait for the final release rom. and then let our clever devs work on it. Personally, I'll be using ice cream sandwich, ram hog or not. The UI upgrades and the general little touches it adds are worth it in my opinion. Maybe not everyones opinion but it is mine.
I'm personally just greatful that sony are updating the phones. my brothers LG Optimus black got Gingerbread in january. We have a good company who learnt from their mistakes in the donut-eclair phases and are still giving us an ice cream sandwich update before a dual core motorola device with a gig of ram is going to get it, That shows their commitment I think.
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The Ice Cream Sony Rom runs better than the stock Gingerbread
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hi
it looks like android 2.3.7 for the R800x is now at RC1 the ? is will R800x user like me be geting a long overe do updated too android 2.3.7?
all so dos any one no when android 2.3.7 will be comeing out?
I can barely understand your post but 2.3.4 is the highest released for any R800 and 2.3.3 is what the R800x is on. MAYBE it will get 2.3.4 thats about all you can hope for. And nobody has any info on it
From Wikipedia:
v2.3.5
Released on 25 July 2011, Android 2.3.5 included a number of system enhancements:
Improved network performance for the Nexus S 4G, among other fixes and improvements
Fixed Bluetooth bug on Samsung Galaxy S
Improved Gmail application
Shadow animations for list scrolling
Camera software enhancements
Improved battery efficiency
v2.3.6
Released on 2 September 2011, this version fixed a voice search bug. The 2.3.6 update had the side-effect of impairing the Wi-Fi hotspot functionality of many Canadian Nexus S phones. Google acknowledged this problem and fixed it in late September.
v2.3.7
Android 2.3.7 introduced Google Wallet support for the Nexus S 4G.
Not sure we need it...
Snow755 said:
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it looks like android 2.3.7 for the R800x is now at RC1 the ? is will R800x user like me be geting a long overe do updated too android 2.3.7?
all so dos any one no when android 2.3.7 will be comeing out?
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2.3.7 has been out for quite some time, just not for R800x (Verizon CDMA Xperia Play - ZeusC)
The 2.3.7 you see in RC1 (release candidate test one) is from the FreeXPeria (FXP) team and is CyanogenMod 7.2 . This is _NOT_ an official firmware update from the manufacturer at all. If you are looking for an official update to 2.3.7 on the R800x, the answer is sometime between when Hell freezes over, and the End of Time. Verizon doesn't care about updating it, and Sony isn't releasing all the bits for the CDMA (R800x) version of the Play anytime soon. Don't expect an update on Verizon, you will be disappointed. Even the Galaxy Nexus CDMA/LTE is a red-headed step-child and gets updates last, if ever, out of the Nexus phones.
If your bootloader is unlocked, and you don't mind not having the Sony Playstation frameworks, and possibly slightly off analog touchpads in games (I believe the buttons have been fixed to work properly), then feel free to go with with CM7.2 and its version of Android 2.3.7
I think R800x users are going straight from Gingy 2.3.3 to ICS.
Bacondroid said:
I think R800x users are going straight from Gingy 2.3.3 to ICS.
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Verizon has confirmed they have no plans to release ICS on the R800x.
Many ICS ROMs for the R800x are available, and there is much hope for both locked and unlocked bootloaders.
Although the XP was the first Gingerbread phone on Verizon, it doesent mean it will get ICS.
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Leraeniesh said:
Verizon has confirmed they have no plans to release ICS on the R800x.
Many ICS ROMs for the R800x are available, and there is much hope for both locked and unlocked bootloaders.
Although the XP was the first Gingerbread phone on Verizon, it doesent mean it will get ICS.
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hey now, there is already a beta for r800x from sony(no public beta)..I had it about a month ago. it'll be released probably this summer.. but honestly..I could care less since I run cyanogenmod regardless
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony...Bean-for-2011-Xperia-Smartphones-283328.shtml
We need developers to do a 4.1 Rom for the 2011 xperia phones!!!
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Andereitor said:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony...Bean-for-2011-Xperia-Smartphones-283328.shtml
We need developers to do a 4.1 Rom for the 2011 xperia phones!!!
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Not surprising actually since stock ICS didn't run that well on my Arc S i think... I am now back on GB and the phone feels alright again.
I see it like this:
GB = Windows XP
ICS = Windows Vista
JB = Windows 7 (Hopefully)
I understand why they don't want to give us JB. It's impossible to play games on ICS and it's not really stable and lagfree.
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how sad..
ive just feel the jeelly bean on nexus 7 and the ics on s3 really almost no difference its like its been tweak. so why not use it for arc?
If sony gives us 4.1, would u buy the 2012 xperia phones?
Think about it, its all market strategies...
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I don´t see that comment as an official statement but if it so i can say that my arc s is very very well on 4.0.4 i would just like some improvements on ram issues also hope more upgrades from sony i have 27 games installed on my arc s and all of them are perfectly playable
its beacause they loose money paying the developers to bringthe update, thats the reason why we cant get official jb... but ours arc/s of course can run jb
Seeing that the ICS for the U and P are still on their way, I think JB for the 2011 line is almost impossible. They won't have time to pull the magic. So it's quite an expected statement rather than an outright disappointment for me. Glad they're stating it early and not just let users waiting in vain. At least we know what's coming.
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The Arc S released for about 1 year ago. It's hard, but thats the destiny if you don't buy a Nexus phone.
And, after I read the blog, I would say, the Xperia S will not be updated to 4.1... Thats my opinion...
Sony is releasing to many phones right now, and their Flagships have outdated software and hardware ( The Ion)
I got the arc because of the sexy design and camera
Always it's about SONY's market strategy.
All I can say is that a coworker received OTA the day before yesterday 4.1.1 JB on his Samsung Google Nexus S, which has almost same specs like Arc. :crying:
I couldn't make up my mind, which OS is better. Gingerbread or ICS.
So I did some real life testing by flashing it several times each after other. And using it.
My conclusion. ICS is significantly faster then GB. Yes it is. Period!!
I'm having GB right now on my Arc S with doomlord's kernel and ICS on stock kernel is faster!! That's it.
Gingerbread is smoother in scrolling and moving inside home. Smoother but not faster.
And some games/apps are not ICS compatible or updated and that is issue for early adopter.
Also, Sony bugged LED notifications and LockScreen notifications that could be corrected on ICS easily by applying already available mods. And sony could improve it easily if they want to.
And JB make smoother scrolling and moving around (touch) on ICS core. That's Google's official explanations (there are more features inside, yes I know).
So we must have it!
Fact what guy in UK sad, are not final. If we make big enough protest, they will do it for Arc S, Neo V and Ray. And then and Arc and Neo owners could use it as they did with ICS 4.0.3.
And please, do NOT compare ICS and JB on 4 core chips. Yes everything is very smooth on them.
Also, since I own and HTC android phone, see what's going with HTC.
They f.cked up Desire owners (me), now and Desire HD owners. And look at their last report. No money even for a fair trade in domestic Taiwan.
And I'm sure there will be JB for Arc/Arc S. At least from FreeXperia.
Just after one major laggy update and sony already stopping update for arc..
So how about Xperia Neo L? No Jelly Bean, too? It is a 2012 phone but the same with the 2011 Xperia phones.
Let's see if their below 1GHz phones will get Jelly Bean (miro, tipo)
It is acceptable but a bit disappointing.
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Sony would be rolling out JB preferably for 2011 devices as jb requires the same config as on ICS. If you remember the days of Xperia X10 Sony wasn't going to release GB for it but due to user protests X10 was given official support for GB. This may be the case for Xperia 2011 portfolio..
cyanogen team has said, that device capable running ICS, will be capable running JB too.
so it must be SONY's marketing strategy related, Nexus S got similiar spec with Arc, and still can handle ICS better than our Arc.
hope that FXP will continue updating our arc to CM10, or at least CM9 that runs as smooth as Nexus S ICS. :fingers-crossed:
this is bad news for me i have arc and i'm dissapointed because arc will not have jelly bean
If this is true, i will never buy another Sony phone NEVER AGAIN.
I miss the Sonyericsson brand, SONY clearly SUCKS now.
I think that the ICS update is so laggy because of their software! Roms like JJ doctor AOSP Rom is super smooth (even with stock kernel). Sony should have make a better work for our 2011 xperia devices....
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yup.. its a dirty market strategy...trust me guys i have used 4.1...it is far btr than ICS..our arc will be damn smooth if we get 4.1...they just want us to buy a new phone..
from wat i heard dere is a lil chance of arc s getting the update..if the above is official then there is no chance..
sony is a sinking ship is all products..it was running lil fine in smartphone industry...looks like this industry is also going to die for them!!