Hi everyone,
I want to start developing a sense 2.1 based ROM. Can someone put me on the right track ? If it's possible then I want it to be a gingerbread rom.
Why make 2 threads on the subject, nobody replied in the first so what makes you think apart from me anyone will reply here, do you not think if it was easy for us mere mortals to port a gb sense rom we would have one by now, after all we are rockin ics and miui now too........
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The first was in the Q&A and no one replied so I went to the general section.
I don't want to port as there is arleady another one half ported. I want to take cm7 as a base and insert sense files in it if possible.
If it's not possible to make it then I'll take cm6 as a base, and keep the rom for myself because we arleady have lots of froyo sense roms.
EDIT: in other words, I want to make a hybrid rom
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Are we going to see any new roms for the aria or no...
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what do you mean by new roms?
We have 4 well made roms already, stock 2.1, liberated 2.1, liberated 2.2, and cm6. If you want to re-roll the stock rom 100 different ways that are all nearly exactly the same like some other phones, go right ahead.
I look forward to the new rom you are going to develop and can't wait to try it out!
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Are we going to see any new roms for the aria or no...
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It really doesnt get any better than what we already have available! In this case quality is far superior to quantity. And less confusion this way as well having less of the same thing being re-made.
thanks to all the people that made since i appricate it.. to the other fools that just wanted to come here just to type cause u are bored kick rock u lames.. i asked the question 1 maybe i am not a phone geek like u and 2 i am trying to learn.. i wasnt being smart...
It's a legit question.
People coming from other phones (WM especially) might expect 2 dozen different ROMs. The fact is, we have 4 great base ROMs, and Android's ability to customize them however you want, without needing a ton of expertise. We don't have to wait around for a select few people to cook up new updates for us.
Although, I really wouldn't be opposed to some people creating some dedicated theme ROMs.
Moved to general as this is not development.
Thats what i meant a fully theme rom.. i had a mytouch n windows mobile in the pass n i no people made more themed n customizable roms.. thank u guys..
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As far as roms go - i dont think we need any more base roms - but maybe some decent themes for the Aria.
I like how polished (but few) options we have for aria. If you've ever wandered over to Nexus One development forum you will see rom overload. How would I even know where to start? With the aria it's simple, yet we have very polished options. Got to give props to attn1.
I really like CM7, but I would like a good Rom that has SenseUI. anyone know of one? i'd like it to be stable and most stuff working.
Orange Sense. HTC Sense, very fast and stable. Available in the development forum.
I have a question...pardon my ignorance on the matter...
What exactly are "earmarks" of a senseUI? I used my stock glacier rom until only last week, and now am using CM7/RC4, and I fail to see the UI differences. This surprised me because I see people have some pretty strong feelings for or against senseUI compared to Android stock UI.
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they are two different rom types, the sense framework takes up more space, but it is really fancy with the clock that's the only reason i want it.
You want the old fashioned 1980s flip clock that you see in most of the Mytouch 4G print ads? I didn't even realize that was now not an option...
I cannot imagine you can't use it though. Just review all the different home launchers... There had got to be one that will let you use this clock.
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I have a question...pardon my ignorance on the matter...
What exactly are "earmarks" of a senseUI? I used my stock glacier rom until only last week, and now am using CM7/RC4, and I fail to see the UI differences. This surprised me because I see people have some pretty strong feelings for or against senseUI compared to Android stock UI.
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You don't see the difference between Sense and the standard Android UI?
Also, the stock MT4G ROM is not real Sense. It's a T-Mobile customized version that isn't near as attractive. "Real" Sense is much more attractive.
TeeJay3800 said:
You don't see the difference between Sense and the standard Android UI?
Also, the stock MT4G ROM is not real Sense. It's a T-Mobile customized version that isn't near as attractive. "Real" Sense is much more attractive.
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Not really, and I am usually big on bells and whistles too. I think I may go back to sense (a modded 2.3 rom). Are there any you (or anyone with an opinion) suggest I try out first?
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the modded 2.3 ones aren't stable i don't think, that's why im asking is there one lol. most have issues running somethings like bluetooth or camera.
Evil's 4G-HD Desire HD rom. Pair it with the latest Faux Sense kernel and it will fly! Everything works!
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Not really, and I am usually big on bells and whistles too. I think I may go back to sense (a modded 2.3 rom). Are there any you (or anyone with an opinion) suggest I try out first?
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The two posts above this one pretty much sums it up.
Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 ROMs aren't fully functional or stable yet.
If you want Sense, try eViL's Desire HD port. Link is in my sig.
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The two posts above this one pretty much sums it up.
Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 ROMs aren't fully functional or stable yet.
If you want Sense, try eViL's Desire HD port. Link is in my sig.
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Great.. will try it out. The only things I have noticed that are different are small niceties, which may have nothing to do with sense and cm7. For example, in the glacier's stock rom, I loved that you could be on the phone and simply set it on a table rear side up, and haptics would turn on the speakerphone. It doesn't sound like much but small things like this add up and overall gave me a better experience.
Can I ask why faux and others at cyanogen are able to create 4 release candidates for their 2.3 rom, yet a stable 2.3 sense rom is still weeks away? Is this because of the morons over at HTC, who don't understand what open source means and won't release their code?
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Can I ask why faux and others at cyanogen are able to create 4 release candidates for their 2.3 rom, yet a stable 2.3 sense rom is still weeks away? Is this because of the morons over at HTC, who don't understand what open source means and won't release their code?
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Pretty much. We'll of course never have the source code to Sense, but a good dump from a similar phone can be ported. The problem is, the only Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 dump we have is from the Incredible S, and despite the similarities in hardware, the kernel isn't directly compatible. It sounds like until we get a better starting point, those ROMs will be buggy and missing features.
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Pretty much. We'll of course never have the source code to Sense, but a good dump from a similar phone can be ported. The problem is, the only Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 dump we have is from the Incredible S, and despite the similarities in hardware, the kernel isn't directly compatible. It sounds like until we get a better starting point, those ROMs will be buggy and missing features.
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By dump do you mean the actual code? And so is motorola (or whoever is behind the incredible...cannot recall at the moment) releasing their code? Because if you are just doing a memory dump and doing some RE to get the actual code, I would ask why that can't be done with the glacier.
And as long you have something a little better than binary, I would think you could get some reasonable starting point from the glacier stock. I am not really skilled in the art as of yet so consider me mostly speaking out of my ass. But I am quite interested. Maybe I will try to get the sense code for you . I mean there has to be a few draft versions in some server not locked up tight.
Oh..and lastly, so evil's rom is a quasi 2.3 (not in substance) with the kernel being 2.2 just tricked out?
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At this point, I don't think I know much more about this than you. I know a dump is much like the ROMs that we flash to our phones...it's the phones entire OS and software package which can then be ported to other phones (assume their of the same manufacturer and are somewhat similar). As you know, the Desire HD is nearly identical to the Glacier (minus the screen) so a dump from it can be easily ported to our phones, and after some "devving", will run perfectly on the MT4G. As far as binaries and code, that's all way beyond me. An actual dev could give you a lot more detailed info.
I asked this earlier and I think it just got lost... but in regard to a sense rom, is evil's rom like a "quasi" 2.3 (has the look but not the substance of gingerbread) with a 2.2.1 kernel that's just tricked out, updated, etc.?
I am not familiar with kernels being separate from the rom. Why is this done? I am sure the install is not too difficult (considering what I have been through with CM7), but is there a guide here,our should I just comb the threads for an installation overview for the sense roms/kernels?
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Edit: I started reading the thread for evil's rom.. and for now, I think I might go back to stock, and upgrade the kernel. (unless there are really no problems worth the Z port, like ffc or wifi issues). So with that said, which kernel is best for the HD sense stock rom (or which stock rom out there has been enhanced the best with everything still functional)? I know there aren't that many different upgraded stock roms/kernels, but of the ones I found, they seem the same.
Sorry to makes this long but I ask this because I see people with just the stock plus an upgraded kernel, but then also, there is the Orange Glacier which is an enhanced stock rom.... Wouldn't those two packages be virtually identical?
Or am I just letting this kernel factor confuse me?
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Forget it.... I just spent 3 hours in the dev threads.... The nomenclature mess was making my eyes bleed... Orange Glacier, Iced Glacier, Royal Ginger, Royal Mint, Royal Jelly, KY Jelly... %^$#^
So... I retract my earlier decision and I am going to stay on the bleeding edge with CM7... F*ck it if I can't do progressive scan video or get reply notifications to MMS messages sent to CDMA networks!!*
*I just made those two things up... It means to say that the bugs that do exist in CM7 are very arcane and minor... But I am an easy sell so tomorrow I will probably want to go back to sense.
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Greetings to all! The other day there was news! In the network be leaked the new OFFICIAL ROM for the HTC Desire S based on Android 2.3.5 with HTC Sense 3.0. Accordingly, HTC Sense 3.0 does not need to optimize and change resolution... Are there any advantages in this for our wonderful HTC HD2?
Link to threat Desire S is HERE
BUMP!!
Well what caught my eye is on post 18 he says it comes with the newest stock kernal. This might be the kernal we need to get sense 3.0 running without all the glitches. Hopefully a developer will see this or someone more knowledgable then me and comment on it. Im just a lonely soul that likes to mod my phone so i have no direct knowledge of what we will be able to get from this exactly. I do know our device can run Desire s builds so I'm atleast thinking their could be a port down the road. Would be great if there was. I'll have to go back and read a lot more in detail about it first because i made this comment without reading all of it first, i was to excited.
We need the sourcecode of the kernel not the kernel itself. And we need it from the original desire and not the desire s. The desire s has different hardware.
Oh bummer
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Hi guys
Was wondering what kind of Sense 3.5 rom you guys are using and why.
I'm on RCmix runny 4.0 atm, but it seems that the rom died. Thread is closed and nothing going on in the android syndicate forum... While its still a good rom i feel like there is still room for optimizations, and as new bases are coming out or are already out i really want to a rom that provides updates from time to time (doesnt have to be every week ya know )
So what are you guys using?
I am using, as you will see from my signature, Virtuous Affinity. Like RCmix it's not being worked on at the moment as far as I know, but it does say on their site why.
It seems since ICS that 3.5 has sort of been dropped.
There is no best rom only best for you.
A search would have shown you this.
I saw new thread in Sensation Development Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429953
so, go go go devs !
If i'am correct than is this rom is not for the HD2.
I hope someone pickes it up!
kruiske21 said:
If i'am correct than is this rom is not for the HD2.
I hope someone pickes it up!
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You're right, hope some dev will port it!
That ROM is obsolete. That's a sense 3.6 ROM.
One the portal, someone has begun a port of sense 4.0 forreal though... unfortunately not for the HD2 though
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bartass127 said:
I saw new thread in Sensation Development Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429953
so, go go go devs !
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To be honest I doubt Sense 4.0 would be usable if it ever was ported to the HD2, so I think maybe interesting to play around with but unfortunately nothing to seriously look forwards to
I think the devs are having a hard time with the new 4.0 software. :/
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I promise, at the end of March, or whenever the XL RUU releases, I will be working on the ICS update port for Sensation XL.
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I know a bunch of other Devs/Chefs that are apart of the HD2 Android community will probably do the same.
The ROM of the new HTC one V seems really interesting to be ported to hd2 (rosie is 800x480) ...
Ice Cream Sandwich is having problems with drivers. So, ICS with Sense 4.0 would require a new batch of drivers which would take more time to solve bugs etc.
i have posted a thread trying to port an actual sense 4.0 but im stuck and in need of help (thread in Q+A named porting sense 4.0)