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Please be kind to me as this is my first post on XDA although I have been reading and utilizing these forums for quite some time. If this question has already been addressed, please let me know. I have already searched the forum and was unable to find anything on the subject but perhaps I wasn't as diligent as I could have been.
I left my G1 on the roof of my car and it fell off and was run over by a car. I already ordered a new one which will arrive in two days (I do nightly nandroid backups so all is well in that department). I would, however, like to donate the crushed G1 to one of the developers on this site so that they can salvage it for parts. Believe it or not, I was actually able to boot to the recovery screen and do a wipe (Alt-W). Obviously I could not see this as the screen is crushed but it rebooted after I hit Back+Home so I am pretty certain that there are some valuable working parts for someone who knows what they are doing.
I have taken advantage of the ROMs on this forum for awhile (Kavana's WinMo 6.1) as well as How-To posts (Apps2SD, Rooting G1, Nandroid, MAM, etc.) and countless other posts to keep my phone in perfect working order, and would like to give at least a little back to the hard working developers here. I would like a moderator to assist me in getting the phone into the hands of the right developer. I am sure it has some value to someone. I am pretty certain that the motherboard is in working condition as well as the keyboard and various other parts (it still vibrates on boot). I don't know much about hardware as I am largely a developer and a user. I don't want to take it apart only to find out that I have ruined what was once a good part. Ebay was an option but I figure that I will actually get more value out of donating it since XDA is literally my lifeline and smartphones would just plain suck without this site.
Please reference the attached photos. Sorry they are not so great. They were taken on my Dash because I was too lazy to take out my good camera.
Post replies here and we can go from there.
Thanks,
Aaron
Cool I'm sure someone will find this useful. You might want to save the battery so you have two
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Cool I'm sure someone will find this useful. You might want to save the battery so you have two
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haha ill take it
i was gonna say send that battery my way because the one i have drains too fast for me and a new one cost like 60 bux.
ill take it... i know im not a dev but ive been wanting to learn how to take the g1 apart and put it back together but i couldnt justify the price of buying one.. ill surely make a guide (both a pictoral one and a video on youtube)... if not i understand
PM Sent to you a little earlier.
jaygajay said:
i was gonna say send that battery my way because the one i have drains too fast for me and a new one cost like 60 bux.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320374959323#ht_1969wt_907
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I believe you should donate it to one of the members working on finding the jtag pins so the people who were effected by the spl brick might have a second chance
Amazon sells them as well for about $7 + $3 for shipping.. OEM, safe..never had issues..
I am keeping the battery which still works. Now I have three! The battery door is crushed too. My goal is for the phone to better not just one person in need of parts but the community in general. If a developer can use this to help out the rest of us it will have been worth it. Like I have stated, I am not sure what use it will be but I am sure that someone out there can utilize it for the benefit of the rest of us.
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I believe you should donate it to one of the members working on finding the jtag pins so the people who were effected by the spl brick might have a second chance
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Can you, or someone else, point me in the direction of one of these developers? This sounds like a worthy cause.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320374959323#ht_1969wt_907
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Amazon sells them as well for about $7 + $3 for shipping.. OEM, safe..never had issues..
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So why do T-Mobile and HTC sell them so expensive?
donate your Devices
if you would like to donate any device that you dont use.
i take any cellphone i fix them and recycle the one that dont work...
the one's that work i give it to people that need it...
also i use them to make videos take them aparts///// and e.t.c..
donate @ [email protected]
just pm you
G1 disassembly
If you want to take apart your G1, here's a good start:
http://androinica.com/2008/12/19/htc-dream-service-manual-now-available-for-download/
Donate it to one of the big Devs, EX: JesusFreke, Cyanogen, The Dude, JAC, Etc...
Im sure they can MORE then utilize an extra device in futher learning/releasing Android related ROMs.
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Donate it to one of the big Devs, EX: JesusFreke, Cyanogen, The Dude, JAC, Etc...
Im sure they can MORE then utilize an extra device in futher learning/releasing Android related ROMs.
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A battery from HTC directly (after they first tried to deny my warranty status) is 37, shipping included.
As for a crushed device, I should try to find one in that condition since emulator will not run on my laptop. More or less the process goes make a program or update, open my sd card, load it, try it, improve it on the computer, delete the sd card copy, move the new one... very agravating.
Not to mention if you plug the device into the computer right, you can load your device AS the emulator (but I don't really want to do that to my "daily driver")
I would like to suggest a moment of silence to honor your G1.
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Can you, or someone else, point me in the direction of one of these developers? This sounds like a worthy cause.
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lbcoder has expressed a desire to jtag the g1.. I'm not sure if anyone's sent a dead board his way yet.
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lbcoder has expressed a desire to jtag the g1.. I'm not sure if anyone's sent a dead board his way yet.
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Haven't got one yet, the lead I had seems to have disappeared.
If interested in sending it for jtag study, PM me.
Has anyone ever thought about whether it would be possible to increase the ram/upgrade memory in a G1. As outlandish as this might sound.. similar things have been done for a variety of devices.... if possible it would probably be the number one speed booster out there? or are there certain limitations out there that would make that impossible... Anyone ever opened up a G1?
This might be what you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566410
Theres some ram on the g1 that isnt being utilized by default.. this hack, for specific roms, can push the g1 to use more of the rom that it initially comes with. as far as a PHYSICAL upgrade im not too sure how that would work out.. never opened a g1, due to warranty void
This does happen a lot nowadays. Original Xbox's (before v1.6) had extra 'spaces' for RAM chips.
Simple to do, if you can find the right RAM for your device, which was hard enough for the Xbox until a German manufacturer was found.
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Upgrading_Xbox_RAM_HOWTO
Edit: Also remember, this only works if there is an extra 'space,' piggybacking does not work 99% of the time (and I doubt there would be enough space within the housing...)
so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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no it has to be the same type maybe hero/magic ram would work who knows
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so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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I was actually referring to how the Xbox got more RAM, by adding ANOTHER RAM chip. Possibly higher capacity would work, but I don't know **** about drivers or software compatability blahblahblah. I'm only good for actually putting it together not knowing how it works :3
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I was actually referring to how the Xbox got more RAM, by adding ANOTHER RAM chip. Possibly higher capacity would work, but I don't know **** about drivers or software compatability blahblahblah. I'm only good for actually putting it together not knowing how it works :3
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There is nowhere to put it.
Ram and rom come integrated on the same chip: samsung k522f1gacm-a060
You need to find a compatible chip (as mentioned, the one from magic or hero *might* be compatible), you also need to program it with something... which you may need to hack together since there is no such thing as a dream with 256MB ram, etc.
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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Good idea
alec.baldwin said:
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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I never said it wasn't possible. I simply said that what is there must necessarily COME OFF in order to put another one in its place.
And yes, you most definitely CAN program these chips outside the board, as long as you have the right equipment to do so, but the big question is to "program it with WHAT?".
Well according to this video our phone uses standard DDR ram made by Samsung. So I belive this is very possible.
Anyone wanna donate a bricked phone for tinkering hehe.
http://pockethacks.com/htc-g1-disassembly/
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Well according to this video our phone uses standard DDR ram made by Samsung. So I belive this is very possible.
Anyone wanna donate a bricked phone for tinkering hehe.
http://pockethacks.com/htc-g1-disassembly/
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As lbcoder has stated, finding a compatible chip isn't the problem.. it's a matter of what do you program onto the chip? Simply replacing the current chip with a blank one wouldn't do anything.
WELL, I don't know if this will work but I tune cars, where you use a eeprom reader get a dump off the old chip into a hex editor and then just burn it onto a new chip with changes made and just stick the new chip with new maps on it.
Would it be possible to do something like this with this chip? Just do a complete dump of one to another?
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WELL, I don't know if this will work but I tune cars, where you use a eeprom reader get a dump off the old chip into a hex editor and then just burn it onto a new chip with changes made and just stick the new chip with new maps on it.
Would it be possible to do something like this with this chip? Just do a complete dump of one to another?
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Yea thats the way it would be done. You'd have to hex-edit the dumped rom to address the right amount of memory for the new chip and it should work. I'm certainly not going to be trying this myself but it would be an interesting experiment.
Anyone know someone who has the smarts to do that... find me someone and I'll find you a few bricked g1s ...probably the only way to get them unbricked anyway.... or I have a g1 here whose wifi does not work. I bet you there are a ton of g1s out there where this or that does not work but that would be fully suited for something like that.
Anyway lets find a genius or a few that are brave enough to go where no one has gone before... I'd be pretty certain, that twice or four times the Ram would be a pretty dramatic experience.... imagine the possibilities with ram discs.... etc...
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Anyone know someone who has the smarts to do that... find me someone and I'll find you a few bricked g1s ...probably the only way to get them unbricked anyway.... or I have a g1 here whose wifi does not work. I bet you there are a ton of g1s out there where this or that does not work but that would be fully suited for something like that.
Anyway lets find a genius or a few that are brave enough to go where no one has gone before... I'd be pretty certain, that twice or four times the Ram would be a pretty dramatic experience.... imagine the possibilities with ram discs.... etc...
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Believe it or not guys, my wife can do this. LOL. (I did marry the perfect woman, she also fixes my cars, folds the laundry and gives the best blowjob on earth). I digress <grin>.
If someone wants to donate a couple of bricked phones, I can get the chips swapped out. The issue of hex editing doesn't scare me at all I've been doing that for years, but finding the right addresses could be interesting. I'd probably need help with that as it is a lot different then bipassing a cd check on a video game
i work with embedded devices and here are my 2c about this, but take this lightly, I havent looked at how the G1 is setup on a board yet, nor do I know what hardware it is running.
if there is external ram, then perhaps it is a matter of swapping out the chips, given that they have the same pinout/packaging, etc.. if that was the case, you wouldnt get even another bit of more addressing because to get another bit, another wire is required to address it.
if the ram is internal on the microcontroller, then it would need to be swapped out, and good luck desoldering/soldering a BGA chip by hand. if you manage to find a new MCU with more internal ram to put on, the pinouts would have to be identical or else things might not work. additionally, you would need to have some method to kind of bootstrap the MCU because they typically come blank from the manufacturer.
Ok this is getting interesting... the easiest way to find out is probably contact HTC.. does anyone know someone, or is there a way to contact an engineer... or can anyone look up the specs? If it is using standard ddram by Samsung.. there might be a possibility.
Let me see what I can find for bricked G1's than we might have redir's wife take a look at it.. or John5788, if you'd volunteer. PM me your contact info...
We could just check the service manual, no?
edit: i tried to upload it, but the upload script here blows..
mediafire to the rescue! [download service manual here]
i just looked through the service manual, nothing specific about the ram/mcu locations. everything is just located on the mainboard without any sort of diagram. the people that look at the service manual dont need to know the device at that sort of hardware level.
Hey guys just wanted to know if someone knows goods apps for the month of Ramadan . As I live in Lahore am finding it extremely difficult to find an app which shows correct time for sehri and iftar as per Pakistan time zone. I have tried one from the market MasjidNow Lite but it doesn't show the correct time. Hope anyone can help me. Thanks
Very funny! Not!
Try Namaaz Times. It's good.
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dexteral said:
Hey guys just wanted to know if someone knows goods apps for the month of Ramadan . As I live in Lahore am finding it extremely difficult to find an app which shows correct time for sehri and iftar as per Pakistan time zone. I have tried one from the market MasjidNow Lite but it doesn't show the correct time. Hope anyone can help me. Thanks
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How incorrect would it be? A difference of about 2-3 minutes is acceptable I'd say. I use Adhan Alarm for my praying times, but usually with such apps you could select a particular calculation method that you'd like to use.
Maybe your region uses different calculation method, might be useful if you try experimenting which method that give the praying times that's more closely resembles your local schedule.
From my experience, the app only gave wrong prayer times for regions with high latitude (such as Norway, where I live right now) and during the extreme summer/winter times.
Happy Ramadan btw!
thanks guys for the response ...
it seems to be linked with wrong time zone as it turns out that instead of +5 GMT for Islamabad in clock, i have +6 GMT ... the time for namaz is out almost by an hour. I hope HTC fixes this in an update
And Happy Ramadan everyone
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And Happy Ramadan everyone
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thank you and for you too
I don't see why any of those apps should be bugged. It has to be one of the simplest functions to code, so i bet any one with any java skills at all will be able to make one that always shows the right time.
Good luck anyways
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I don't see why any of those apps should be bugged. It has to be one of the simplest functions to code, so i bet any one with any java skills at all will be able to make one that always shows the right time.
Good luck anyways
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Thank you for the well-wishes It's actually quite complex to calculate, since it need to be able to simulate when the sun is at some certain position (i.e. rising, directly above the head, setting down) when seen from which and which latitude/longitude. You can say that it's some kind of mini-Stellarium.
And on top of that, there's various calculation methods that might be preferred by various school of thought, some prefer a fixed interval, some prefer a certain degrees of declination/inclination of the sun, etc. But I think nowadays there's a basic calculation library/algorithm for it, so using those kind of code libraries, it should be quite uniform.
Ramadan app
Covers the most basic principles to conduct fasting in the month of Ramadan.
Available in: English and Indonesia!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsIm9yZy55dWZpZC5yZXNhbGFyYW1hZGFuIl0.
help,
any solution for my extended battery (original htc mha 2300)?
does not work in android
I use this kernel, and it's worked fine for all the builds I've tried so far: http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=756513
I just bought the extended battery original HTC 2300 but when the charging LED alternating green and orange, I have to update something? Using an original ROM this problem does not exist.
Thanks
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search is your friend. or even just looking through the first page of threads.....
there are 3 kernels that support official extended battery........
i dont know how many times i myself have answered your question sorodrigo. and each time you feel it necessary to create a NEW THREAD in the DEVELOPMENT section!!!!.....
i think you may just want to sell your HD2 and get something else.. like an iphone or some ****
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malaeus said:
search is your friend. or even just looking through the first page of threads.....
there are 3 kernels that support official extended battery........
i dont know how many times i myself have answered your question sorodrigo. and each time you feel it necessary to create a NEW THREAD in the DEVELOPMENT section!!!!.....
i think you may just want to sell your HD2 and get something else.. like an iphone or some ****
EPIC FAIL
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You my friend are on a roll.
Btw I have a question for you? I did a search and couldnt find anything. How do you turn the phone on?
hazard99 said:
You my friend are on a roll.
Btw I have a question for you? I did a search and couldnt find anything. How do you turn the phone on?
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well first, take off your battery cover. and you will find this little hole with a button that says biov (if you dont see this, then you are doing it wrong) punch the biov button with a pen. then press the green button.
if your phone doesnt turn on then call your cell provider for a new phone.
;P
but seriously, tnx for moving the thread mods.
It's a wild, stupid question but if I brought a screen for the Sensation XL, the processor from a Galaxy S II and the body (modified to be big enough) from a galaxy nexus how much work would be needed in to making this super phone?
Rip the other components from other phones.
I know that software and components would be problematic to say the least, but could it be done? Is it POSSIBLE?
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GPU, correct power stuff, all that stuff. technically you could but it's a lot more than 3 words.
Possible: Yes.
Probable: NO.
Could be the new thing in phones! like in desktops.
It would be great though!
I'm guessing you'd need to build your own drivers and kernels and all that goodstuff. I think it is possible but itd be way to much work.
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Alex530 said:
I'm guessing you'd need to build your own drivers and kernels and all that goodstuff. I think it is possible but itd be way to much work.
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Android should have a universal kernel. That would be awesome.
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Well, let's start from the beginning:
You need a SOC. I doubt you can find a SOC by itself, so you would have to take it from another phone. Another option is getting a mainboard from a device, and you can find spare mainboards.
Next, you need to do some research on how the display is connected, what parts you're going to use, if their way of connecting is supported by your mainboard, etc.
Then, you have to find a way to write something to that SOC. If you don't have a mainboard that's programmed, you'll need to make the partitions manually, which means you will need a programmer (not as in someone who can write code, but a device which can write stuff to NAND chips using JTAG or something like that) to write a NAND to that SOC's MTD.
And what you have to write to that NAND? You'll need a bootloader, so you could stick with a SOC from a HTC and use the default HBOOT, or I would prefer a clean bootloader. You could check the source code of cLK for HD2, which is a really decent bootloader.
Next up, you have to get hardware working. In other words, building a kernel. Get the Linux kernel, find all the parts for all of the hardware, and actually get it up and running. And I can tell you, this is a hell of a job. Compiling a kernel from source is easy, but implementing all of your hardware in a kernel is pretty difficult. You will have to get a barebone up and running, make it dump a log to somewhere in the RAM or NAND, read that dump out, check what it's saying, and you know where to continue. This will cost a LOT of time.
Once your kernel is running and it can echo something to the screen (which is already hard by itself), you have to build an Android image from source, which is not hard at all, and extract that image to a partition on the NAND. And then, set up the rootfs path in your kernel correctly so it knows where you put that filesystem of Android.
And then, boot it up, hope that logcat can tell you something, perhaps Android will boot, but the chance is pretty small that it will the first time you try. And when you finally get into Android, you have to get all the hardware working there again.
And then you have a working Android device, but I'm afraid you can't make this thing legal, as you need an IMEI, and as far as I know, extracting and messing with IMEI's (or ESN's as they're called in the USA I believe) is not allowed, so you do have to know something about all of that stuff to get a GSM radio up and running.
It's possible, but I suggest you start with replacing a display of an HD2 with a display from a Desire for example, try to get it working, continue replacing stuff, and you know if you're able to do this.
If you want it, you could get somewhere, but it will cost a lot of money (I think it'll cost about 600$), without knowing if it will do the trick.
Are you seriously saying "Could I ...." or you meant "Can I ....?
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Are you seriously saying "Could I ...." or you meant "Can I ....?
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Meh'
It's just words, there not going to be important in this instance.
If I were building a rocket then yes, words are important.
But I'm asking is it POSSIBLE to build a phone.
Possible... the simple way, get a working motherboard of s2 or gnote, get its display spec and wiring dia, get the display u need.. get its spec and wiring dia. Cross refer the two disp. If it match in some way, get it fixed to the board, build/get a body for the thing. Done.
Nearly impossible.. if any thing is not matching , and u fit it, well u gonna get a burned disp /board. And since u r doing some R&D, u will have to spent a lot, may be as much as for getting 2-3 top rated phones.
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good luck!! tell use when u built ur phone!
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good luck!! tell use when u built ur phone!
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Just a question lol! I wouldn't because of all the work involved with software and legal sh*t.
Benjamin! I thought I fired you! (Long story on WFSDev, he threw a chair at me, I became a Dalek)
It's possible, but like the others said, it would take a lot of work. You'd need your own drivers, kernels (probably ask NHB) etc. but it's possible. Check out these links:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/build_system.html
http://www.android.com/developers/branding.html
http://droidgamers.com/index.php/ga...custom-android-phone-well-at-least-in-germany
I remember some other links for manufacturers on the Android website, but I couldn't find them. Good Luck!
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Benjamin! I thought I fired you! (Long story on WFSDev, he threw a chair at me, I became a Dalek)
It's possible, but like the others said, it would take a lot of work. You'd need your own drivers, kernels (probably ask NHB) etc. but it's possible. Check out these links:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/build_system.html
http://www.android.com/developers/branding.html
http://droidgamers.com/index.php/ga...custom-android-phone-well-at-least-in-germany
I remember some other links for manufacturers on the Android website, but I couldn't find them. Good Luck!
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Hehe lol, nice following me up there boss man!
Probable no :-\
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well..
if you really have money you could ask some manufacturer to make a phone that suits you..
i mean, if you really have money.. xD
I'll think the closest your going to get is if you're buying one of the arm development boards. You should get android up and running but you're pretty far away from any mobile device
Some company like motorola should make a program and you choose the specs and they make it for you.
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Some company like motorola should make a program and you choose the specs and they make it for you.
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This is awful because of the licensing, test and certification requirements. Phones are only cheap because of economies of scale which you lose there. It isn't like a desktop where you can swap pieces easily. It is more akin to an even more ****ed laptop.
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And then you have a working Android device, but I'm afraid you can't make this thing legal, as you need an IMEI, and as far as I know, extracting and messing with IMEI's (or ESN's as they're called in the USA I believe) is not allowed, so you do have to know something about all of that stuff to get a GSM radio up and running.
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Just to clarify, IMEI is for GSM and ESN is for CDMA, so we actually have both in the U.S.