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Modaco ROM alternatives?

I'm just wondering what's so good about the Modaco ROMS... From what I was reading it's the best thing to ever happen to Hero but I've flashed it and it actually seems slower/laggier than my stock ROM... should this be?
My stock ROM was 2.73.XX but I can't remember the exact build number. I'm using Modaco 3.0... are there any other ROMS out there I should consider trying? I'm looking for the fastest and most responsive ROM out there. I do A LOT of multitasking so I'd like to have a ROM that can keep up.

If you did a complete data wipe/factory reset, while having the Modaco Rom, the Hero should be a lot more responsive and faster.
I like Modaco rather than stock rom because it removes some useless apps and allows for more customization. Btw, another alterative to the stock and Modaco is the [email protected] and the Clean ION Roms.
There are several different Roms, the differences is the types of apps removed/installed and the Android firmware.

i like modacos roms, because they work reliable and good. with pauls roms i am sure that he has tested them well, and i can use them as basis for my own modifications, or just can push them to my friends' heros without having them complain that something doesn't work. also in case you need support you can ask paul, he is really a nice guy.
there are some other roms, but imho mcr3.0 is by far the most evolved rom, esp. for everyday use. check the development section here for other roms, including the brandnew android 2.1 roms

Well here's the thing. I didn't wipe/factory reset before I Flashed the ROM. After flashing it went into a reboot loop, it would keep rebooting and when it got to the last boot animation, reboot again... I then did a wipe using the recovery boots wipe option and then it booted fine... Maybe I should do another wipe and flash again? It sucks though because now I've customized it back to the way I like it... I hate having to do that all over again. I guess I need to do the A2SD thing so I don't have to redownload my apps again... that was annoying when I had to do it after flashing Modaco's.... I couldn't even remember all that I had installed lol.

Anyone think reflashing might make it better?

I've been using MCR since about 2.2 so I can't speak for 3.0, but when I first flashed with 2.2 I didn't factory reset or format my SD card and it was a complete fail... apps force closing constantly, unable to recieve SMS, and other assorted weirdness.
So I factory resetted, reflashed and from that point MCR has run very smoothly and each update has gone OK (except for one where i had to format and repartition my SD card for A2SD, but didn't lose any settings).
So my advice would be that if you go to the effort of starting with a clean slate you'll get a much better user experience, which is what all us existing MCR users have...

streetdaddy is spot on. Do a clean wipe and then a rom flash.
I'm using MoDaCo 2.9. For my Hero, 3.0 ate up a lot of my phone's internal memory and kept saying I was running out of memory. The differences are minuscule and the speed improvement is about the same.

I started using Pauls ROM as soon as I got my Hero (which was a few days after release) because the stock ROM was toilet, and I've not looked back. The ROM itself is excellent and the support is first-class.
Make sure to wipe before installing. Once you've got it up and running you shouldn't have to wipe it when you upgrade next time.

A good rom suggestion?

hey!
Anyone have any good suggestions for a rom for HTC - Mytouch 4g? I am pretty much a n00b even though I manage to pull a complete ultimate true root and s=off lol.
i have the original tmobile stock rom though, is there a just Android 2.2 or Android 2.3 Vanilla rom for HTC mytouch 4g?!
I've seen EvilZ and Ice galicier , but I am not sure which one to go about .
Any (good) suggestions would really help!
thanks a bunch.

LimitsX said:
hey!
Anyone have any good suggestions for a rom for HTC - Mytouch 4g? I am pretty much a n00b even though I manage to pull a complete ultimate true root and s=off lol.
i have the original tmobile stock rom though, is there a just Android 2.2 or Android 2.3 Vanilla rom for HTC mytouch 4g?!
I've seen EvilZ and Ice galicier , but I am not sure which one to go about .
Any (good) suggestions would really help!
thanks a bunch.
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Search the dev section for nightly CM7, Its very vanilla-ish gingerbread and very stable btw, some pros?...improved battery life, open to customization, overall a better looking ui, runs silky smooth, and the kernel supports oc up to 1.5
Sent from my rooted glacier running CM7 and grankin's oc kernel

Thanks man!
but are those CM-7 nightly ones stable though?! I won't likely experience any SD-memory card errors, wifi not working , and etc *the usual problems* lol.
I would like to remain at 1 Ghz for now LOL. Just need a vanilla android version with tons of customizations though!
Also, since my phone is currently "ultimate perm true rooted + s=off " , I installd Rom Manager and did a Flash clockworkMod Recovery, only once though. Should I do it again? (twice)?
So, can you please tell me what is the true purpose of CWM? I know you can use it to recover, but recover what exactly and how is that possible?
Let's say I decide to get the CM-7 nightly version, what do I do need to do? (any specific guide) ive read general guides and I believe I did the right things lol.
Now with regarding flashing, it flashes the NAND chip right? :S So the apps i have installed and other tmobile junk will be lost? like it would be a complete full format process (similar to PC?)?
Thanks again! I appreciate it and I am looking through the thread and googling to learn .

LimitsX said:
Thanks man!
but are those CM-7 nightly ones stable though?! I won't likely experience any SD-memory card errors, wifi not working , and etc *the usual problems* lol.
I would like to remain at 1 Ghz for now LOL. Just need a vanilla android version with tons of customizations though!
Also, since my phone is currently "ultimate perm true rooted + s=off " , I installd Rom Manager and did a Flash clockworkMod Recovery, only once though. Should I do it again? (twice)?
So, can you please tell me what is the true purpose of CWM? I know you can use it to recover, but recover what exactly and how is that possible?
Let's say I decide to get the CM-7 nightly version, what do I do need to do? (any specific guide) ive read general guides and I believe I did the right things lol.
Now with regarding flashing, it flashes the NAND chip right? :S So the apps i have installed and other tmobile junk will be lost? like it would be a complete full format process (similar to PC?)?
Thanks again! I appreciate it and I am looking through the thread and googling to learn .
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1. Regarding how stable it is..its super stablr considering its still an alpha and i trust it enough to use it as my daily driver (i need 100% reliability and the phone has never let me down). Only known bugs are qik not working (and its a 2.3 compatibility issue rather than a rom issue) and you can use tango instead, ffc has a reverted x-axis effect xD..., mms might be blurry (which is fixed by changin the ua undr mms settings) and some may have other bugs i have not yet noticed
2. Your current 2.5 cwm will not work with gb, you will need to flash any 3.xxx version to install cm7. Cwm is designed to do backups of ur current working system and can be restored in the events of ur phone acting up (i.e bootloops or major issues...) although its also used to easily install .zip files (cm7 is a rom contained in .zip file and will need to be installes via recovery), its used also to wipe the system cache, dalvik cache and/or full wipes in the events of issues.
3. Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916930#
Thats the nightly thread, you will have a "nightly" update you can flash thru recovery
4. If u go to cm7 you will have to (must) do a full wipe. Download titanium backup and back up ur existing apps and data (dont wanna lose ur angry birds progress), once cm7 is up just download tit bcup again and you'll have ur data back.
Hope this helped
Sent from my rooted glacier running CM7 and grankin's oc kernel

LimitsX said:
Thanks man!
but are those CM-7 nightly ones stable though?! I won't likely experience any SD-memory card errors, wifi not working , and etc *the usual problems* lol.
I would like to remain at 1 Ghz for now LOL. Just need a vanilla android version with tons of customizations though!
Also, since my phone is currently "ultimate perm true rooted + s=off " , I installd Rom Manager and did a Flash clockworkMod Recovery, only once though. Should I do it again? (twice)?
So, can you please tell me what is the true purpose of CWM? I know you can use it to recover, but recover what exactly and how is that possible?
Let's say I decide to get the CM-7 nightly version, what do I do need to do? (any specific guide) ive read general guides and I believe I did the right things lol.
Now with regarding flashing, it flashes the NAND chip right? :S So the apps i have installed and other tmobile junk will be lost? like it would be a complete full format process (similar to PC?)?
Thanks again! I appreciate it and I am looking through the thread and googling to learn .
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one question at a time, bro.
1)the CM7 Nightlies are "Fairly" stable, though they do have bugs, as they are not fully complete (then again, no rom really is devoid of bugs and things to improve).
2)as for flashing CWM a second time, sometimes the recovery doesnt stick and when you boot into recovery, you will still go to the stock recovery. The second flash of CWM should fix this, and you should go to the CWM screen.
3) The purpose of CWM is to flash the various ROMs you'll find in the Development Section of this area. It also allows you to create nandroid backups, which will allow you to restore your phone to a specific state in time if something goes wrong or something (also helps to flash back to a rom without having to reinstall everything, which takes forever)
4)to flash a gingerbread (either CM7 or otherwise) you'll need to flash the CWM 3 to your phone manually, using the methods laid out in several threads in the Dev section. then you'll need to flash the rom, plus the Gapps for that rom (google apps like gmail, market, etc)
5)and yes, flashing a new rom will wipe all the data f(apps, accounts, call and text logs, etc) from the previous rom the previous (or youll need to do so before flashing). Now you see why you make nandroid backups also, using a backup application like titanium or MyBackup can make that process much simpler.

Arighty. I've been reading that CM-7 nightly thread for now!
I am excited now to flash it! Plus your suggestion and said it is the most vanillaish rom avaliable .
Okay, so I have Rom Manager Preimum that is 3.0.0.7 and since I flashed it currently, so CWM is 2.5.1.2 .
and I need CWM 3.x?
Regarding CWM 3.x? theres ClockworkMod 3.0.0.5 and clockwork-3-20110116-MT4G.img .
Which one of the above CWM 3.x, is better to use? Also, they are in .img format, so how would I go about flashing it?
this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10670110&postcount=531
its using CWM 3.0.0.5 , is that a good method ?
And what happens to my current CWM 2.5.1.2? I already flashed it with that, do i need to "unflash" it ?
After that CWM, I use Titanium backup (i have pro version) to backup my apps + phone contacts right? I don't want to backup tmobile bloatware . I only the apps i paid for through android market.
And then, I download CM-7 and transfer it to my phone via usb cable to the sd card. Then use ROM Manager to flash it?!
thanks again!

jmwils3 said:
one question at a time, bro.
1)the CM7 Nightlies are "Fairly" stable, though they do have bugs, as they are not fully complete (then again, no rom really is devoid of bugs and things to improve).
2)as for flashing CWM a second time, sometimes the recovery doesnt stick and when you boot into recovery, you will still go to the stock recovery. The second flash of CWM should fix this, and you should go to the CWM screen.
3) The purpose of CWM is to flash the various ROMs you'll find in the Development Section of this area. It also allows you to create nandroid backups, which will allow you to restore your phone to a specific state in time if something goes wrong or something (also helps to flash back to a rom without having to reinstall everything, which takes forever)
4)to flash a gingerbread (either CM7 or otherwise) you'll need to flash the CWM 3 to your phone manually, using the methods laid out in several threads in the Dev section. then you'll need to flash the rom, plus the Gapps for that rom (google apps like gmail, market, etc)
5)and yes, flashing a new rom will wipe all the data f(apps, accounts, call and text logs, etc) from the previous rom the previous (or youll need to do so before flashing). Now you see why you make nandroid backups also, using a backup application like titanium or MyBackup can make that process much simpler.
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Thank you bro!
I appreciate all that information and effort you put into it.
And yes, you are right. All roms have flaws, they all need to be worked out . But, this tmobile rom is just a bit annoying .
I posted a reply already, so I believe i know how to go about doing this CM-7 stuff...but just need to make sure I go the steps and necessary backup done.
thanks!
p.s. can you transfer phone contacts to simcard in this CM-7 rom? tombile has this option shut off for android 2.2 for G2 and MYT4G~! i know HTC Desire Z Bell's rom has the option to save contacts on the simcard, :S. Unless theres some other issue that i am not aware of it.

LimitsX said:
Thank you bro!
I appreciate all that information and effort you put into it.
And yes, you are right. All roms have flaws, they all need to be worked out . But, this tmobile rom is just a bit annoying .
I posted a reply already, so I believe i know how to go about doing this CM-7 stuff...but just need to make sure I go the steps and necessary backup done.
thanks!
p.s. can you transfer phone contacts to simcard in this CM-7 rom? tombile has this option shut off for android 2.2 for G2 and MYT4G~! i know HTC Desire Z Bell's rom has the option to save contacts on the simcard, :S. Unless theres some other issue that i am not aware of it.
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well, Im running a Desire HD port (gorillaSense), so my rom has that feature, but I havent used CM7 in a little while. However, if you sync your contacts to google instead of t-mobile, youll have all of them no matter what rom you use, no matter if it has t-mobile contacts or sim card contacts or anything.
and yeah, the t-mobile rom is annoying, thats why I got off it as soon as I could and never looked back. Personally I prefer the Sense ROMs, but I can see the merits of the CM and AOSP ROMs too, its personal preference.

LimitsX said:
Thank you bro!
I appreciate all that information and effort you put into it.
And yes, you are right. All roms have flaws, they all need to be worked out . But, this tmobile rom is just a bit annoying .
I posted a reply already, so I believe i know how to go about doing this CM-7 stuff...but just need to make sure I go the steps and necessary backup done.
thanks!
p.s. can you transfer phone contacts to simcard in this CM-7 rom? tombile has this option shut off for android 2.2 for G2 and MYT4G~! i know HTC Desire Z Bell's rom has the option to save contacts on the simcard, :S. Unless theres some other issue that i am not aware of it.
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K, so i checked the settings on the contact application and you can only export your stored contacts to the SD card, you are able to import from SIM but not to export to SIM. Like the post above stated though, as long as you are on an android phone you will have your contacts synced

[Q] What to do after rooting?

I perma-rooted my T-Mobile G2, but now I'm lost.
Since I can't flash official ROMs, what can I do to update OS? Are there any options besides CM7? If I switch to CM7, does it mean I lose all my previous installations? And does it mean I'm stuck with CM forever? When do you expect official version of CM7 to be released?
Thank you in advance.

You can flash any ROM you want. There are many good solid ones in the Development forum here and other android forums of course.
If you're looking to back up your apps before you install a ROM (because you must wipe all data when installing new ROMs) I'd advise you download an app called Titanium Backup. I use it regularly when switching ROMs and it really is necessary. This can back up all apps, app data, and even system data if you want. You can then restore after flashing your new ROM.
CM7 is at RC-1 (Release Candidate) which means that it has been declared stable enough with few enough bugs for the general public. I've personally been running nightlies for a few weeks now with no issues, and the RC-1 seems to be similar. There really is no date for when it will become an official release, but if you're up for waiting that's totally understandable.
If you don't wanna go with the CM7 RC route, you can always go to one of the other Sense-based ROMs, or even CM6 which has been extremely stable for a long time now. You can always just check out one of the stock 2.2 roms as well, they're often optimized with no bloatware and often run quicker than the stock ROM with perm root you have now.
Changing ROMs is easy, and just because you decide one doesn't mean you can't switch to another. Just use the app "ROM manager" to backup, wipe, and install different ROMs as you see fit.
Basically which ROM you choose is up to you. Just look through the dev forum and check out the offerings, read then ask questions and try them out. I definitely recommend reading some of the stickies about backing up/flashing/etc. before you get going.
Kinda hard for me to give more info because it seems like you're pretty new. I'd just advise that you read up on everything and always do backups before you flash any ROM or update in order to restore if you run into issues.

tulgaa said:
I perma-rooted my T-Mobile G2, but now I'm lost.
Since I can't flash official ROMs, what can I do to update OS? Are there any options besides CM7? If I switch to CM7, does it mean I lose all my previous installations? And does it mean I'm stuck with CM forever? When do you expect official version of CM7 to be released?
Thank you in advance.
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1. Download and install ROM Manager and within ROM Manager flash ClockworkMod Recovery. This will allow you to create and restore complete backups of your phone. This should be the first thing you do. Second, create a backup (a Nandroid). It will be almost impossible to screw things up permanently with ClockworkMod Recovery installed and a backup on your sd card.
2. After you have a backup created, you can start trying different ROMs and if you don't like it, just try another one or restore your backup. You can even have multiple backups of different ROMs and switch back and forth if you want.
3. You are going to see a lot of references to gapps, which is short for Google Apps. Many ROMs come pre-loaded with gapps - Cyanogen was stopped by Google from incorporating them into his ROM's so the package is made available to flash immediately after you flash a CM ROM. Once you log in to Google with your account (use the same one every time) all your market apps will start downloading from the market automatically - that is all the apps that you had actively installed before you switched ROMs. Your phone will be sluggish at first while it updates all your market apps. To backup apps that you've installed from your sd card, download Titanium backup.
4. Now that you're rooted you aren't stuck with anything. Your options are wide open. Just look over the XDA site. It'll be obvious how much you can do with your phone now.
I'm on CM7 now and its very stable. Download build #41 - 42 should be out by the morning. If you decide to go with that, you won't believe how much more your phone has to offer than the stock ROM. I don't believe you'll ever want to go back to stock again, but if you do there's information here in the forums to do that including unrooting your phone.

I agree with this, read about the different roms in the G2 Development Section especially.
It's a bit confusing with all the roms, but as long as you backup your rooted setup now, you should be free and fine to try several different ones. (See step 1 about by EdKeys).
I recommend purchasing Titanium Backup...it will allow you to reinstall all your apps relatively quickly and keep all saves/settings.
Try out a sense rom (for example Virtuous) as well as CM7. I tried out sense before, but it makes the phone feel slow despite being very cool. When I first rooted my G2 I went straight for Cyanogenmod 6.1.1, as it was the stable version. Cyanogenmod 7 RC1 is way better.
Good luck and I hope you find something you like!

I highly recommend Virtuous.
Also, this isn't stated anywhere normally, so I'll share with you: I absolutely suggest using ROM Manager for most everything - it's a GUI for Clockworkmod, basically, and makes things a bit easier.
HOWEVER
The only ROMs you'll find in ROM Manager are ones that the developer has submitted. Not all devs care that much, so you'll find a TON more ROMs to try in the Development subforum. To flash one of those, simply download the .zip file of the ROM to your memory card (it doesn't matter where, you could put it on the root or you could create a 'romstotry' folder if you wanted).
Once you have the zip file on your memory card, open ROM Manager, choose 'Install Zip from SDcard' and show ROM Manager which zip file you want to use. IT'll then pop up and ask if you want to wipe, and if you want to backup your current ROM.
If you're switching between two different ROMs, you *always* want to wipe. Always. If you're simply installing a new version of the ROM you currently have installed, you don't *need* to wipe (unless the dev specifically says that you need to, so read the changelogs), but it's a good idea to do so anyways. You'll have a bit more setup to do, but wiping will prevent most problems that people seem to have.
hope that helps.

Thank you very much all. I installed CM 7 RC1 and it works great. I will try other ROMs when I get familiar with CM.

tulgaa said:
I perma-rooted my T-Mobile G2, but now I'm lost.
Since I can't flash official ROMs, what can I do to update OS? Are there any options besides CM7? If I switch to CM7, does it mean I lose all my previous installations? And does it mean I'm stuck with CM forever? When do you expect official version of CM7 to be released?
Thank you in advance.
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Hi - the first thing I did after perma-root was change the boot animation for my G2 - you can do it by hand, or you can use an application located in market - just search for 'boot animation.'
After that's it's straight to the custom ROMs - I'm using Sense Virtuous 1.0.0 and loving it.

[Q] Almost ready to flash ROM, but questions still lingers

Hello.
After a long time, i want to give a try to another ROM in my phone. However, i have a few questions as the phone wasn't "made" by me.
I bought the phone and it came already with Froyo with Sense installed (Although in hardware info it says it is an HTC Desire.) but very stable
Finally with HTC Super tool i rooted the phone. Everythings seems ok with root checkers and titanium backup.
Now. The phone starts android using MAGLDR, it even had a nice splash screen that sayd android HD2 and after the dark forces splash screen. With this, the ROM is in the phone memory right? Can i load a rom from the SD card and keep Froyo in the phone in case something is wrong? Should i wipe entirely and depend on the backups if something goes wrong?
I'm interested in trying CM7 and MUIU. Should i learn about clk?
any other advice? This will be my first flashing and i really find Froyo very stable, but having this device and not trying something else seems like a waste.
Last in priority... if i would be interesting in trying also WP7 Mango, but keeping Android as my main OS, what are steps to go? need to partition my card or make important decisions before?
Thanks for all the help!

in order to flash mango you have to wipe android from nand.
you can run an android sd build without wiping the present nand build. you can try 3dak's miui rom in sd android section.
if you want to run your hd2 in maximum performance i recommend using hyperdroid cm7 rom in nand android section.

Hi
If your HD2 had Froyo installed, it was more than probably already rooted when you received it
Installing a ROM on your SD card is safe and won't break anything in your phone's memory as long as you follow the installation procedure of your ROM carefully. Make sure that you pick up a ROM in the HD2 Android SD Development forum

Ok. so WP7 will be a no for the moment.
will try then some sd card methods and roms.
Once i find one that i like, i should move it to nand right?
I thought the phone would be rooted since the beggining also, as it even had SU installed, but after trying to use titanium, SU itself, terminal and rootchecker everything said it wasn't. Thought it was funny. Now everything works.
Will pass by SD forum then.
Thanks!

If you want to install the ROM on NAND, you can't install the ROM that you used for SD, you have to find the NAND version of the ROM in the HD2 Android NAND Development
Installing on NAND is quite more difficult when you begin. It's also more dangerous and might brick your phone if you don't take care.
Follow one of the tutorials posted on the forum, you'll have to make familiar with a lot of terms and tools, and it's important that you understand all your actions.
Always make a backup prior to install a new ROM, for this you have to use the Backup/Restore tool of ClockworkMod... your new home
(You start ClockworkMod from MAGLDR - Option "AD Recovery")
Good luck

Thanks for the advices.
I´ve been playing with miui for a few days and so far i like it.
Question.
Right now im playing with my htc sense rom in nand, and miui in sd.
Even if the apps of the htc are in the sd, miui cannot see them. Do i have to redownload and reinstall everything i need for miui?
Specially worried about some apps that were payed...

Xuicoatl said:
Thanks for the advices.
I´ve been playing with miui for a few days and so far i like it.
Question.
Right now im playing with my htc sense rom in nand, and miui in sd.
Even if the apps of the htc are in the sd, miui cannot see them. Do i have to redownload and reinstall everything i need for miui?
Specially worried about some apps that were payed...
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No just download 'titanium backup' from the Android Market, backup all apps then restore them on the SD build.

[Q] Any way of rolling back from ICS to Gingerbread on HTC HD2 T-Mobile

I have recently ported NexusHD2-ICS-CM9_V1.4 on my HTC HD2(T-Mobile) and I need to downgrade this to NexusHD2-Gingerbread_V3.2a_NAND_(Android-2.3.7) build?
I just tried with MagLdr with the new zip file, but at the time of first time boot up with Android setup, it complained that some google.com.XXX is already missing. So basically it wouldn't allow me to complete the setup for Gingerbread. Only reason why I am looking for downgrading is because I feel a lot of Market apps don't work on ICS Rom.
For example a bank app has a capability of scanning a check with my camera but when I am using it in ICS, it's saying that "XXX App has stopped working" please report the error.
Similarly some of the GPS application is not working fine on ICS and I am hoping this is happening because ICS is still in BETA mode and hoping that Gingerbread is much more stable then ICS.

task29
install hspl magldr and then flash the nand rom.
best solution.

aleejaved said:
task29
install hspl magldr and then flash the nand rom.
best solution.
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Dont do that, it's just unnecessary. Go into CWM, wipe, repartition then flash your new ROM. Also, you didn't 'port' Android to your phone, you flashed it.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA

rolling back
I tried to wipe partition then install from zip file and did not work any suggestions ?

Since most GB roms requires less system partition than ICS roms, I would think repartation will help. Besides after repartition, any trace of any rom is wiped clean completely.
After that you should be able to flash the zip file normally.

Ill try that when as soon as i get home and let you know if it worked , thanks

worked , thanks