The 7.7 sure is a solid performer. It has no bass roll-off with low impedance phones (meaning, probably no capacitors in the output path), it has low enough output impedance to drive multi-armature IEMs with crossovers properly, it has decent enough SNR and dynamic range. It measures not quite as well as a Sansa Clip or a modern iDevice, but it's better than, say, Cowons in some aspects (especially bass roll-off).
Same as all other Android devices I tested it has some slight audible background hiss with most IEMs - I guess that has to be fixed in Android, though, not in the hardware.
Frequency response with various loads:
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THD+N:
IMD:
Crosstalk (drops to 30-40dB under load, same as most other players...):
Here's the link to the full results: http://rmaa.elektrokrishna.com/index.php?dir=Comparisons/&search=galaxy+tab&search_mode=f
Also, just for fun, found in the results above - not that anyone with half a brain would believe that "audiophile" scam players like Neutron MP really sound any different (or even "better") than the next non-broken software player, but I compared it to Rockbox... and of course they measure exactly the same. (Yeah, I also listened to both with my very own ears and couldn't hear any difference.)
Also, Player Pro seems kinda broken at times, with way too high distortions - I repeated the measurements several times in RMAA, but they always turned out the same. Not sure what that is, but I doubt those are realistic results, so I would take them with a grain of salt.
Nice results!
Have you noticed the problem when the audio cuts on/off during low level passages when listening at low volumes? With real high sensitivity earphones one can even hear the 7.7's background noise mute and un-mute.
Yes, I noticed the background hiss - you even hear it when you click the system bar to go to the mini apps. Audio gets activated shortly, resulting in some background hiss. I noticed the same on my Cowon and Archos Android devices too, 2.2 and 2.3 respectively - seems that's a general Android issue.
Also, it's somewhat annoying that Android resamples everything to 44.1kHz (with linear interpolation, I assume). That's no issue for music playback since most everything is at 44.1kHz anyways - but most video stuff is at 48kHz and gets rudely resampled.
A 44.1kHz sine sweep in MX Player:
Same in 48kHz:
Hello,
I am a regular user of this tab but not too informed regarding this. Just want to ask if what would this mean to us users of the P6800?
Is it possible that the Samsung tab 7.7 be used as a music device? (ie. Irig in iDevices) I'm curious about this test. Sent thanks
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can u test of Galaxy Tab 2 7.7 ?
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Specifically the sound quality when streaming music. Wow is all I can say. I stream music to my motorcycle helmet (Chatterbox Xbi2) and have lots of listening experience with my Garmin Zumo GPS and my 3GS iPhoney. I must say that my i9000 kicks both their tales by a huge margin. I fidelity of the sound is fantastic, a tiny bit of base is lost but holy moly the rest is awesome. I'm not sure if it can attributed to BT 3.0 or what but I don't care, I am happy. Good job Samsung.
agree
i used to stream a lot of BT using previous phone, but the BASE on the i9000 is almost intact even after streaming
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Yay. Finally something nice to say about sgs. Mind you we are the only phone with bluetooth 3.0 out so far. Nice
Typed with bloodied fingers on a Apple Newton 2100. Hail Fuhrer Jobs!
Bluetooth streaming in BMW
I have an Iphone 4 and a SGS and except for the stuttering on my radio. (which the iphone 4 doesnt do) the sound is really really good and is MUCH better than iphone 4 streaming quality. I am very pleased with the quality. I believe Froyo will fix it. . Still cant dial out using Bluetooth on SGS
there are tricks to dial out using BT
and it will depend on your headset or the car deck function keys
or voice activation key
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Specifically the sound quality when streaming music. Wow is all I can say.
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Is it then worthwhile to buy a BT headset?
I mean, will the sound quality of a good BT headset, be as good as a wired headset? And wich one?
I have no idea...
I've been an avid fan of Samsung's Yepp line of MP3 players. They have some of the best quality audio output on the market. WAY WAY WAY better than iPod's.
It's not surprising to see their know-how transfer over to their high-end Galaxy line.
betoNL said:
Is it then worthwhile to buy a BT headset?
I mean, will the sound quality of a good BT headset, be as good as a wired headset? And wich one?
I have no idea...
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I haven't tried a household bluetooth headset but if the quality is the same as my helmet one I would consider it over a corded version if the circumstance required it. I'm interested in trying out a bunch now just to see.
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By the great fellas of goldenears. I can't paste the link but look for the english version of goldenears.net (Or just type en. before the main site
The 3G version has an output impedance of 3.44 Ohms (Quite better than SGII)
It's pretty good
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http://goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Mobile&document_srl=1747358
Well looks as just acceptable in my view. It's worlds apart from iPhones. But every portable player these days it'a very far from Apple handsets in terms of resolution and stereo crosstalk.
But the output impedance of the 3G version has been a nice surprise since i just use balanced armature iems
Headed to a store right now with my UM3x to check out how does the Note fares with the Samsung preloaded tunes. Not the best way but since i know what to look for (separation and fuzziness) it might be enough to realise if can tolerate it or i just renew my vows with my 2 years old iPhone 3GS.
Hey,
For R62
Iphone 4S
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Note Galaxy 3G
So :
Note is better than IPHONE in :
Frequency Response
Noise level
But THD/IMD/Dynamic range better/Stereo Crosstalk for Iphone 4S
So it's better than my Desire HD.
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Well looks as just acceptable in my view. It's worlds apart from iPhones. But every portable player these days it'a very far from Apple handsets in terms of resolution and stereo crosstalk.
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Yes but at this level with my sennheiser HD25 it will be difficult to see differences between my Cowon J3/Iphone 4S/Galaxy Note...
There are all Good..
Sound wise i'd say the iPhone is a splendid performer and the Note just a decent one. The differences in crosstalk, IMD and output impedance will be clearly audible when driving high end balanced armature iems.
And screen wise..well the iPhone looks like a cheap candy store toy when put side by side with the Note.
That's what i'm trying to weigh in: should i please my ears or my eyes ?
I am not a "pure" audiophile but clearly I can't with my Hd25 tell you which is better in term of Audio Quality between Cowon J3 and Note.
I still prefer listening music with my Cowon J3 cause it has great equalizer, great output etc...
remixtech said:
I am not a "pure" audiophile but clearly I can't with my Hd25 tell you which is better in term of Audio Quality between Cowon J3 and Note.
I still prefer listening music with my Cowon J3 cause it has great equalizer, great output etc...
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My cowon d2+ still outperforms my note
What is your headset ?
Westone UM3x. Triple driver balanced armatures. Feed them with a lousy and you're dead
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/03/samsung-htib-audio-dock-soundbar-ces2012/
Samsung unveils new HTIB systems plus audio docks with Galaxy S and iPhone support
While it's hardly pulling the curtain back on its entire CES 2012 slate of products, Samsung's earliest preview for your AV pleasure is an updated range of HTIB systems and sound bars, as well as two new Audio Docks that support Apple devices as well as its own Galaxy S phones and players. The DA-E750 Audio Dock (pictured above) is the first to include Samsung's "hybrid vacuum tube amplifier technology" which it claims raises the bar for mainstream audio products, by delivering the clear sound output of digital combined with the natural sound of a vacuum tube in its preamp. Both docks will play from and charge both Samsung and Apple hardware, as well as stream music wirelessly via AllShare or AirPlay, although the DA-E670 lacks that high end vacuum tube tech.
For your entire home theater needs, the new HT-E6730W 7.1 Blu-ray 3D HTIB features the same vacuum tube tech as the DA-E750, while the HT-E5500W boasts an iPod dock and 3D sound effects.Finally the HW-E550 Surround Sound Bar also produces 3D sound with vertically mounted speakers and comes with its own wirelessly connected subwoofer. One other new feature this year is the "Disc to Digital" integration in the HT-E5500W's Blu-ray player which will give users access to streaming copies of eligible discs just by registering into the player. It sounds like it's powered by Ultraviolet, although we'd expect to hear more about that closer to the show. Check after the break for press releases, and the gallery for a few pics of all this hardware -- if you know anything about Samsung, you know the onslaught has only just begun.
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I wonder if the Epic will work on it, considering those other Samsung docks have not worked right for our phones.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/03/samsung-htib-audio-dock-soundbar-ces2012/
Samsung unveils new HTIB systems plus audio docks with Galaxy S and iPhone support
I wonder if the Epic will work on it, considering those other Samsung docks have not worked right for our phones.
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what docks havent worked? my car docked worked great till i went on CM7. that[s not sammys fault though
Engadget has the story, link coming soon.
We already knew the international version had it, that engadget link has been posted already and it says nothing about the us version.
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Engadget has the story, link coming soon.
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Here's the link: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/26/wolfson-samsung-galaxy-s-iii/
And here's the Story:
Wolfson confirms the Samsung Galaxy S III uses its audio chip
By Sharif Sakr
posted Jun 26th 2012 5:58AM
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The Galaxy S III was widely tipped to possess a Wolfson digital-to-analog converter for high quality audio output -- a feature not seen in this range since the first Galaxy S. That notion has just been confirmed by the Scottish electronics firm itself, which says its WM1811 Audio Hub has been selected for use in Sammy's flagship. The chip promises "crystal clear voice call quality" and "enriched audio playback for music and video" thanks to its 24-bit hi-fi DAC, active noise reduction circuits and other wizardry. The GS II, meanwhile, used a Yamaha DAC to convert digital data (e.g. in an mp3 file) into an analog signal that could drive a speaker (for example in your headphones), but even if most people couldn't hear the difference, audiophiles have insisted they preferred the sound in the older Galaxy. The only question remaining, which the PR after the break does not expand upon, is whether the Wolfson hardware is found in all variants of the new phone. Check out the More Coverage links for further reading.
wolfson coming late to the party.
It appears that the US versions do not--a teardown was already done--here is a link to the discussion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27858131#post27858131
As an amateur audiophile I was disappointed and may end up just sticking with my nexus S which has a great sound for a phone(using voodoo of course).
Tweet from supercurio a few mins ago.
https://mobile.twitter.com/supercurio/status/217631114334973952
Also he said he can fix the bass problem in video recording. Nice.
I'm a music guy! I listen to music a lot! I use Beats By Dre Studio headphones... I have MoDaCo based on stock rom installed...
I think that the volume on this phone is just too low! I tried installing this mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012575
and it just sounded terrible!
When I have my headphones plugged in to my pc it's totally loud and clear!
What should I do? any suggestions for me?
I am super sensitive about the quality
I have beats tours and they sound loud and hurt my ears at max. Try the audio mod in the themes and apps section.
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I have beats tours and they sound loud and hurt my ears at max. Try the audio mod in the themes and apps section.
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After installing Awesome Beats I'm scared to try random mods... do you know any sort of player that may increases the volume?
earphones are always very load because you put them in your ear and headphones are more clear.
Studios sound awesome i don't want to go back to earphones
how about trying these to increase volume? they are what i use.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-E5-BK-...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1359670868&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generation-...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1359671246&sr=1-1
Hard to carry around specially at the gym
what music player do you guys use?
Stupid question...is it plugged in all the way?
I find the jack weird and sometimes I swore I connected my ear buds fully in when in reality they had that "extra" click to go thorough.
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I'm not a apple fan boy buy iPhone quality is way higher in term of music
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Hard to carry around specially at the gym
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that fiio headphone amp is tiny (< 2" square), weighs next to nothing and has a clip on it.
I use Sennheiser CX 300 II earbuds and PlayerPro music player and have no problems with low volume. I've also used MP3Gain, a windows app, to level all my music volumes inside the MP3 files themselves. You can set the level as high or low as you like. I've noticed that MP3's from amazon.com typically have the volume set at 99 dB which is much louder than from other sources so I level all my MP3's down to the default 89 dB in MP3Gain.
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/private_headphones_earbuds-and-ear-canal-headphones_502740
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tbig.playerpro&hl=en
http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/
...chuck away the beats. its going to spoil your ears >_>
the CX300II is a great all rounder. you could also try the Feels Pro.900 (korean company hence the weird name), the Audio Technica CKM500 is not bad as well.
Default sound volume on Nexus 4 is incredibly low. I'd say 50% lower than the HTC One X with beats for example.
The only mod I have found that increases the volume is the Nocturnal mod in the Android Development forum. I am not sure what rom's it's compatible with but I am using AOKP.
While it increases the volume, it's still not enough, and the quality of the music on the Nexus 4, mod or not, is just not good enough.
have you tried this mod? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2025486
it works and the speaker is as loud as my droid razr