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fathamburger said:
haha yeah I read the colour cycling post shortly after I posted this and figured it was you
Didnt find it via google, found it via the Dell website via their dell venue pro hashtag which popped up your tweeted complaints plus several others. Not a good sign at all. Hope they will not be selling the same units to us when they become available without addressing the problems, if the delays are a result of addressing the problems they should at least say so.
Even then, I need a phone of my own for development soon. Will have to give up my current one to another developer shortly, hell this is starting to become a very costly platform to buy into since I may have to buy a "stopgap" phone I don't really want i.e. LG quantum if these shortages persist.
Efjay I wasn't trying to spread FUD, rather his is the first detailed post of his experiences on a non-vapourware phone and i'd consider it requisite reading for anyone wishing to make an informed decision.
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Not sure whats going on, how did this become the first post in this thread?
dotnetnate.com/2010/11/why-windows-phone-7-will-fail-and-i-might-finally-break-down-and-get-an-iphone/
God...people read that thing? pfft...how'd that get on Google so fast?
So this person's impatience and incompetence means that WP7 is a failure?
Can't argue with that logic.
Whats worse is this is the second forum this has been posted in by the same poster that I know of, who knows how many more. Looks like someone's trying to spread the FUD!!!
Actually, I'm feeling a bit clairvoyant myself, here's my prediction - tonight will be dark, tomorrow the sky will be bright in some places and others not so much! Bow down before my awesome future-seeing powers!!!!
I have not heard of the Venue Pro going into the death reboot spiral...
The 'Engineering Sample' issue was pretty covered the day of launch and I believe it was a mistake on their part.
For me, a 16GB phone would be fine, as I really don't use my phone as a media device. I use my phone for internet, email, SMS/MMS and calls.
I would worry about battery life anyway with me using the web a TON on a daily basis and responding to many emails/SMS messages.
Let's see what happens when these are officially put on sale and people start getting them in their hands...
There are some parts of the above blog post though that I do agree with....having your brand new OS on a hardware platform that is about a year old (1ghz Snapdragon proc) is not the best business.
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So this person's impatience and incompetence means that WP7 is a failure?
Can't argue with that logic.
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Yeah, the fact that I can read and understand what I AM allowed to do based on the terms of of a contract is a *****.
Maybe you should try selling this POS to customers. While yes, Dell royally [email protected]#)('d up - the fact is, MS is to blame for the storage problem. Period. It's not in any way, shape or form a consumer device given the approach they took and as someone who sells technology, specifically MS tech, to clients - guess what - I'm advising them to still the hell clear of WP7 until they actually engineer it properly to have broad appeal. Or would you like me to also get quotes from others at MS that have to evangelize this crap who also think it's a load of BS as well?
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I have not heard of the Venue Pro going into the death reboot spiral...
The 'Engineering Sample' issue was pretty covered the day of launch and I believe it was a mistake on their part.
For me, a 16GB phone would be fine, as I really don't use my phone as a media device. I use my phone for internet, email, SMS/MMS and calls.
I would worry about battery life anyway with me using the web a TON on a daily basis and responding to many emails/SMS messages.
Let's see what happens when these are officially put on sale and people start getting them in their hands...
There are some parts of the above blog post though that I do agree with....having your brand new OS on a hardware platform that is about a year old (1ghz Snapdragon proc) is not the best business.
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The first unit I received, the one that went back to the store, was not an engineering sample. Someone mentioned that I should've written down the revision numbers...but I also had none of the other problems the engineering samples had, e.g. I could connect just fine to my secure wi-fi network. Two types of devices went out, contrary to Dell's public statement. All Dell is claiming is that batteries were mislabled but there are two distinct sets of behaviors, i.e. one is the 'proper' version of the hardware and the other isn't.
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Yeah, the fact that I can read and understand what I AM allowed to do based on the terms of of a contract is a *****.
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You can hit your phone over and over with a hammer if you want according to the contract, it doesn't mean you aren't stupid for doing it.
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Maybe you should try selling this POS to customers. While yes, Dell royally [email protected]#)('d up - the fact is, MS is to blame for the storage problem. Period.
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What storage problem? The one where Microsoft explained what the criteria is for an acceptable card, or the part where they said that they were working with SD card makers to get the proper information on the packaging to let the users know if the card was acceptable to use in the device?
What you did was impatient. You performed an unsupported procedure on a undeveloped feature using a substandard card, then proceeded to blame everyone but yourself. The Venue has plenty of flaws, sure, but I'm not sure what you experienced is anyone's fault but yours.
PROTIP: When modifying hardware on your device, especially hardware noted by the manufacturer to be unmodifiable, unintended issues may arise.
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What storage problem? The one where Microsoft explained what the criteria is for an acceptable card, or the part where they said that they were working with SD card makers to get the proper information on the packaging to let the users know if the card was acceptable to use in the device?
What you did was impatient. You performed an unsupported procedure on a undeveloped feature using a substandard card, then proceeded to blame everyone but yourself. The Venue has plenty of flaws, sure, but I'm not sure what you experienced is anyone's fault but yours.
PROTIP: When modifying hardware on your device, especially hardware noted by the manufacturer to be unmodifiable, unintended issues may arise.
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Either I didn't clarify it or you didn't read it...but MSFT is claiming, in their stores, that it breaks the warranty if you replace what it shipped with with ANY card - even certified ones. They stated that the Focus is the only one that can have its storage swapped out. So in other words, when those shiny new "Certified" logos get put on the cards - they're useless outside of the focus. So yes - it's absolutely MSFT's fault for going with a storage scheme that is this destructive and allowing devices with such minimal (non-replaceable!) storage to even be on the shelves.
It's not impatient - it's realistic. If a mfg doesn't want someone to change something, to the point where the change is truly catastrophic to the device, then they'd damn well better put a lot more labeling what MOST intelligent people look to modify, although I'd hardly call this a modification. Further - it was working just fine and I'm apparently not the only one to experience power cycling, mine just never recovered from it.
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Either I didn't clarify it or you didn't read it...but MSFT is claiming, in their stores, that it breaks the warranty if you replace what it shipped with with ANY card - even certified ones. They stated that the Focus is the only one that can have its storage swapped out. So in other words, when those shiny new "Certified" logos get put on the cards - they're useless outside of the focus. So yes - it's absolutely MSFT's fault for going with a storage scheme that is this destructive and allowing devices with such minimal (non-replaceable!) storage to even be on the shelves.
It's not impatient - it's realistic. If a mfg doesn't want someone to change something, to the point where the change is truly catastrophic to the device, then they'd damn well better put a lot more labeling what MOST intelligent people look to modify, although I'd hardly call this a modification. Further - it was working just fine and I'm apparently not the only one to experience power cycling, mine just never recovered from it.
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Most people buy the device they want in the first place and DONT go rooting in the innards of their device looking for storage card slots when the device clearly does not have one visible or other ways to unofficialy upgrade their device. The fact that you made the choice to swap the card is not MS's fault, they made their position clear on swapping storage cards, and the card in the Dell is obviously not intended to be swappable, the manufacturer made the effort to hide the card from being visible irrespective of what methods they used, and you made the choice to buy a device with insufficient storage and decided to add storage in an unsupported way. Cant see where your storage card complaint has any merit.
Whether MS's way of implementing storage card integration is correct or not is a separate issue, so are the inevitable bugs in any piece of software as there are in WP7, but for the storage card complaint if you go out of your way to use a device in a way for which it was not intended you cant blame anyone but yourself.
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God...people read that thing? pfft...how'd that get on Google so fast?
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haha yeah I read the colour cycling post shortly after I posted this and figured it was you
Didnt find it via google, found it via the Dell website via their dell venue pro hashtag which popped up your tweeted complaints plus several others. Not a good sign at all. Hope they will not be selling the same units to us when they become available without addressing the problems, if the delays are a result of addressing the problems they should at least say so.
Even then, I need a phone of my own for development soon. Will have to give up my current one to another developer shortly, hell this is starting to become a very costly platform to buy into since I may have to buy a "stopgap" phone I don't really want i.e. LG quantum if these shortages persist.
Efjay I wasn't trying to spread FUD, rather his is the first detailed post of his experiences on a non-vapourware phone and i'd consider it requisite reading for anyone wishing to make an informed decision.
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Either I didn't clarify it or you didn't read it...but MSFT is claiming, in their stores, that it breaks the warranty if you replace what it shipped with with ANY card - even certified ones. They stated that the Focus is the only one that can have its storage swapped out. So in other words, when those shiny new "Certified" logos get put on the cards - they're useless outside of the focus. So yes - it's absolutely MSFT's fault for going with a storage scheme that is this destructive and allowing devices with such minimal (non-replaceable!) storage to even be on the shelves.
It's not impatient - it's realistic. If a mfg doesn't want someone to change something, to the point where the change is truly catastrophic to the device, then they'd damn well better put a lot more labeling what MOST intelligent people look to modify, although I'd hardly call this a modification. Further - it was working just fine and I'm apparently not the only one to experience power cycling, mine just never recovered from it.
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Why did you buy this phone in the first place? Your biggest gripe is the lack of storage space on the phone. Okay, fine. 8GB is probably not enough to store all my MP3/Videos/misc....
However you knew going into the purchase that 8GB was all you were getting. I'm pretty sure that you did not know that it had an easily accessible MSD slot. Reports of the MSD slot did not start coming out until 11/9... as in your blog post. You purchased your device on 11/8 as seen on your Twitter.
I purchased it on 11/8 at the Scottsdale MSFT store. I hate to break it to you, but it's not exactly rocket science to pull the battery out and look for where a microSD card would be. I had that sticker off and the card pulled within about 5 minutes of having it in the car. My apologies for not posting it to the world, but if that's exceptionally difficult to imagine how one could do such a thing without someone else writing about it first, perhaps you shouldn't be critiquing my actions. The only delay between me purchasing it and running into problems was the shipping date on the initial 32GB card.
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Most people buy the device they want in the first place and DONT go rooting in the innards of their device looking for storage card slots
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Really? You're saying that on this forum? Have you even SEEN the sticker? It has no text on it...it has nothing. There's nothing to distinguish it from something that could've been put there just to hold it in over a OMGYOURPHONEISGONNADIE sticker.
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The fact that you made the choice to swap the card is not MS's fault, they made their position clear on swapping storage cards, and the card in the Dell is obviously not intended to be swappable the manufacturer made the effort to hide the card from being visible irrespective of what methods they used
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You really don't have any concept of contracts... unless something is stated that it will in fact void the warranty, the warranty is in tact. Don't piss on me over bad lawyering on Dell's part. If anything, you should be thanking people that are griping about this to get it changed.
Cant see where your storage card complaint has any merit.
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That they claim I voided a warranty is where it has merit. Again, L2Contract. I did nothing in violation of the warranty. There was no warning that removing the sticker or the card itself violated the warranty - that's really the end of the story. At BEST you could argue that there's a very minor warning at the end of the manual...I mean, dead on the back of it, that mentions that it may make the phone unusable - but again, nothing that mentions that it's a violation of a warranty. Beyond that, even MS' KB article are MUCH less dire than that and are pretty much summed up as 'you might lose some data'.
Whether MS's way of implementing storage card integration is correct or not is a separate issue
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Yes - it is. However MS is not 'separate' in this case - they were the ones in the store telling me I voided the warranty when 1.) nothing indicates that such an action would and 2.) They're not the warranty holders.
you go out of your way to use a device in a way for which it was not intended you cant blame anyone but yourself.
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Yeah, I went reeeeeeeally far out of my way. You know...looking in the same place I'd look in other phones for SD slots, e.g. my HD2 and seeing what was pretty obviously one...yeah, that took some brainpower.
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Really? You're saying that on this forum? Have you even SEEN the sticker? It has no text on it...it has nothing. There's nothing to distinguish it from something that could've been put there just to hold it in over a OMGYOURPHONEISGONNADIE sticker.
You really don't have any concept of contracts... unless something is stated that it will in fact void the warranty, the warranty is in tact. Don't piss on me over bad lawyering on Dell's part. If anything, you should be thanking people that are griping about this to get it changed.
That they claim I voided a warranty is where it has merit. Again, L2Contract. I did nothing in violation of the warranty. There was no warning that removing the sticker or the card itself violated the warranty - that's really the end of the story. At BEST you could argue that there's a very minor warning at the end of the manual...I mean, dead on the back of it, that mentions that it may make the phone unusable - but again, nothing that mentions that it's a violation of a warranty. Beyond that, even MS' KB article are MUCH less dire than that and are pretty much summed up as 'you might lose some data'.
Yes - it is. However MS is not 'separate' in this case - they were the ones in the store telling me I voided the warranty when 1.) nothing indicates that such an action would and 2.) They're not the warranty holders.
Yeah, I went reeeeeeeally far out of my way. You know...looking in the same place I'd look in other phones for SD slots, e.g. my HD2 and seeing what was pretty obviously one...yeah, that took some brainpower.
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Man its all this type of crap they probably are delaying the release. To make sure the damned stickers are legible. Joking but kind of serious
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Man its all this type of crap they probably are delaying the release. To make sure the damned stickers are legible. Joking but kind of serious
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Maybe...but I think it'd be more that there are just general hardware problems with the device.
Someone from the MS store contacted me, so I'm trying to see if they can either correct or confirm the associate's story about not even the certified cards being able to be used.
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Really? You're saying that on this forum? Have you even SEEN the sticker? It has no text on it...it has nothing. There's nothing to distinguish it from something that could've been put there just to hold it in over a OMGYOURPHONEISGONNADIE sticker.
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I think thats the whole point, most people are not buying phones and heading to xda to find out where the hidden storage card is, you are obviously not the average user but just because you are more knolwedgeable doesnt change the fact that the storage card was not meant to be accessed and changed, whether by someone with a degree in astrophysics or the milkman and playing the injured consumer and quoting contracts doesnt make your claim any more valid.
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You really don't have any concept of contracts... unless something is stated that it will in fact void the warranty, the warranty is in tact. Don't piss on me over bad lawyering on Dell's part. If anything, you should be thanking people that are griping about this to get it changed.
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I fail to see what contracts have to do with you messing up your phone so badly that you needed to return it.
I also fail to see why Dell is at fault for your botched swap job. I mean, everything you've said so far seems to be a lot of bluster to cover for your own incompetence. Funnily enough, just keeping your failure to yourself would have avoided a lot of this drama.
In summary: Contracts have nothing to do with your lack of skill or forethought into pulling vital components from your phone impulsively on the ride home. You keep bringing up "contracts" like it means anything. You may understand contracts, but you sure don't understand cell phones.
efjay said:
I think thats the whole point, most people are not buying phones and heading to xda to find out where the hidden storage card is
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I didn't come here to find out where it was. I knew where it was ...see previous post
you are obviously not the average user but just because you are more knolwedgeable doesnt change the fact that the storage card was not meant to be accessed and changed, whether by someone with a degree in astrophysics or the milkman and playing the injured consumer and quoting contracts doesnt make your claim any more valid.
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Well, it absolutely does. If I can engage in a supposed warranty voiding action without notice that said action voids a warranty...it doesn't void the warranty and in fact is not a condition of the warranty. There's no warning on the sticker. There's no text anywhere. I'm really not sure what's difficult to understand about that.
Someone else mentioned this earlier, but I hadn't seen it until just now. EDIT: the original poster: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9374284&postcount=23
Well, a note to TnT management, if you happen to read this. I didn't click "Agree", so phooey on you.
Btw, it's things like this which made me decide to never accept donations. Once I start doing that, I'm crossing over somewhere that I really don't want to go - TnT / Viewsonic, please keep that in mind.
EDIT: To Viewsonic CS -- I had two devices (one was going to be a gift to a relative, and I was going to leave TnT on it). I now have one device, and the main reason is because of that insane EULA. Specifically, section 4.1 and, to a lesser extent, 4.2. You should have a chat with that company and have them explain what the heck they were thinking.
If a larger tablet company like Archos did this, Engadget and other tech sites would roast them alive.
roebeet said:
Someone else mentioned this earlier, but I hadn't seen it until just now.
Well, a note to TnT management, if you happen to read this. I didn't click "Agree", so phooey on you.
Btw, it's things like this which made me decide to never accept donations. Once I start doing that, I'm crossing over somewhere that I really don't want to go - TnT / Viewsonic, please keep that in mind.
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One reason I bought the sears warrenty for 60 bucks. So I am not to worried if Viewsonic is going to honor their warrenty
Doesn't look that strange for a commercial products EULA. Frankly I think we all have violated EULA many times on many devices/software. I do agree that accepting donations does create a different situation, but I don't think anyone should be scared off by it. Just read a Windows EULA, or the FBI warning on a DVD, or listen to the NBA rights (or lack thereof) before any game.
They make it excessively broad so that if they elect to they can crack down on any modders (if it cuts into their bottom line) by issuing cease and desist orders. Since TapUI is still making money by including it (even if we don't use it) and we aren't modifying so much as removing it I think there is very minimal chance of legal difficulty.
Then again, stranger things have happened.
Whoever (Ok, mgmt Roebeet) decided to include TnT was either a relative, or a used car salesman. If anyone had actually used the device instead of just listening to someone talk it up in a meeting I can't see it ever being released.
And I mean no disrespect to used car salesman by comparing them to whoever sold VS on TnT.
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One reason I bought the sears warrenty for 60 bucks. So I am not to worried if Viewsonic is going to honor their warrenty
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Yeah. I bought the extended warranty from Staples.
Closing - keeping for informational purposes only.
Every WP7 forum has a thread like this, figured I'd start one.
I want to add a 32gb mSD to my DVP. Could those of you who took the plunge post:
1) Brand
2) Size and class
3) Place of purchase and cost
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I guess it would be good to add the result of this test: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907945
Therefor we may have a consistent list with workable cards...
alabij said:
Every WP7 forum has a thread like this, figured I'd start one.
I want to add a 32gb mSD to my DVP. Could those of you who took the plunge post:
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2) Size and class
3) Place of purchase and cost
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MS has already said that cards on the market at this time, do not meet the requirements for WP7. Sansdisk says they will have WP7 certified cards in the very near future...suspected end of January/February. Why would we even want to invest and track those that are not certified at this time?
Samsung, Dell, HTC, LGE, Sandisk and MS have indicated optinal performance most likely will not be achieved. Why encourage less informed people to change cards when an optimal performance is not assured?
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MS has already said that cards on the market at this time, do not meet the requirements for WP7. Sansdisk says they will have WP7 certified cards in the very near future...suspected end of January/February. Why would we even want to invest and track those that are not certified at this time?
Samsung, Dell, HTC, LGE, Sandisk and MS have indicated optinal performance most likely will not be achieved. Why encourage less informed people to change cards when an optimal performance is not assured?
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Wow! I appreciate the rant but did you even read my post? It clearly states that "I" would like to take the plunge. Most of the people whom have upgraded their mSD in DVP forum didn't state where they got them from unlike the HD7 forum. Al I was doing was gathering info for me and for anyone else who wanted to do it.
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Wow! I appreciate the rant but did you even read my post? It clearly states that "I" would like to take the plunge. Most of the people whom have upgraded their mSD in DVP forum didn't state where they got them from unlike the HD7 forum. Al I was doing was gathering info for me and for anyone else who wanted to do it.
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No, I read your post. And yes....it was a rant. Still has me scratching my head. With virtually no chance of optimal performance, why plunge? I have a Dell with NO SD card. I also have multiple cards around the house....admittedly nothing newer than 6 months. Adding a card from my HD2 immediately introduced lags and locks into the device. Shutting down, removing card, and restarting, no lag, no lock.
UI kind of think of changing SD cards in WP7 like the ending of Thelma and Louise. If we make it to the other side, we'll eat dinner at xxx.
Good luck though....
I'm not the first guy to call in the attorneys but my frustration over the wi-fi issues on the stock A500 and the lack of a adequate resolution over the issues have me thinking class action. Anyone else thinking along these lines?
Im not rooted, and ive done nothing special to this thing except getting 2 OTA updates (the first one and then 3.1) and ive never had any problems with the wifi.
maybe you should just do a warranty replace?
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Im not rooted, and ive done nothing special to this thing except getting 2 OTA updates (the first one and then 3.1) and ive never had any problems with the wifi.
maybe you should just do a warranty replace?
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Many others have reported it as a software issue and I'd be without for up to a month while they "fix" a non-existent hardware issues and I have to pay shipping for the privilege.
Cause everyone wants something for nothing. Rather than just return it and get a replacement or a different brand they prefer to try dragging a lawyer into it. Mine since I replaced my first has worked flawless.
Your poll is missing some options. Like or Are you happy with the product..... plus many other options.
I'm happy with my tablet, haven't had any issues with it, and I really mean it; none whatsoever. As such I sure wouldn't partake in any class action suit.
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I'm not the first guy to call in the attorneys but my frustration over the wi-fi issues on the stock A500 and the lack of a adequate resolution over the issues have me thinking class action. Anyone else thinking along these lines?
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What wifi issues? You mean the lack of AdHoc support? That's an Android thing and bugger all to do with Acer in the first place, plus, it uses my phone's hotspot mode fine. Four of my phones, in fact. Mind you, they're all Acer's so maybe they run their hotspot in infrastructure mode instead of AdHoc...
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Cause everyone wants something for nothing. Rather than just return it and get a replacement or a different brand they prefer to try dragging a lawyer into it. Mine since I replaced my first has worked flawless.
Your poll is missing some options. Like or Are you happy with the product..... plus many other options.
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I paid a premium for the unit when it first came out. I'm not asking for something for nothing. I want a software fix for a demonstrated problem which they had 2 chances to do (3.0 and 3.1). It's like buying a new car and then being told you can't drive it for a month while they repair it. I've tried to get support and having the unit out of my hands for up to a month and paying for the shipping doesn't do it for me...I'd take a software fix or advanced replacement with my credit card as collateral, but Acer doesn't consider it something they would do to resolve what is obviously their problem.
I can't paste links yet, but a quick search of wifi and 3.1 will get you several threads.
I had intermittent problems which were traceable back to DHCP leases in 3.0 and then under 3.1, it became unusable like many others.
You wont win...
I as well am very happy with my Oxonian.very happy with my Acer monitors very happy with my Acer notebook.that I did have to have repaired.not only did they fix the fan noise issue when I sent it in.tech called me saying if I would like he would replace the keyboard and the bezel over the track pad as there were some cosmetic wear
Acer is second only to HP in sales and service.and this is only due to the fact HP has awesome tech support.
For the trolls this is my openion if you disagree its your right state your. Openion if you like do not bash mine
Nice people are much more gorgeous
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I paid a premium for the unit when it first came out. I'm not asking for something for nothing. I want a software fix for a demonstrated problem which they had 2 chances to do (3.0 and 3.1). It's like buying a new car and then being told you can't drive it for a month while they repair it. I've tried to get support and having the unit out of my hands for up to a month and paying for the shipping doesn't do it for me...I'd take a software fix or advanced replacement with my credit card as collateral, but Acer doesn't consider it something they would do to resolve what is obviously their problem.
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I paid the premium when it first came out and I noticed the GPS was not working so I returned it and got a replacement that did work. Quit whining, you should have returned it when you found the problem. Now since you waited your stuck using their support, that's how the system works.
Mine never drops connection, I have read where others are but I would have returned it. Even if you win a Class Action, the only ones that make money are the lawyers and you will still have a tablet your not happy with.
Sometimes bad things happen to good devices! That's what warranties are for. And if you didn't deal with it during your exchange period, that's too bad for you! Now you'll have to deal with the warranty procedure.
The court systems are bogged down with frivolous litigation. I have the utmost faith that Acer will deal with your rare wifi issue promptly and fairly. And if you aren't willing to take the appropriate steps to remedy the situation, I think it's highly unlikely that a judge is going to even look at the case.
Shameful, if you ask me. But that's just my two cents. Enjoy your lawsuit
I have had no problems with the WiFi on my A500. connects every time and I have never lost connection.
Moonking
The only real issues of this fine tablet are a) the dhcp lease issue, which can be manually solved in literally 30 seconds and b) the slow gps lock, which has been improved in the leaked 3.1 (the chinese version that appeared here about 20 days ago) that I use. And if all else fails, we already have custom ROMs and custom kernels that can add extra functions and remove Acer bloatware.
So, if you can't be bothered to correct the wifi issue everytime, just return your device and get yourself an ipad or something.
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I'm not the first guy to call in the attorneys but my frustration over the wi-fi issues on the stock A500 and the lack of a adequate resolution over the issues have me thinking class action. Anyone else thinking along these lines?
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Get a life?
I get 4 strong bars
Same here. WiFi and GPS works great from day one till 3.1 update. Same on 4 Iconias my friends have. If it doesn't work just return it or replace it with a new one. Much cheaper then loosing a law suite.
No issu here since the begining with Wifi or GPS of my tablette.
I'm change many times of firmware, for finaly stay with 020 stock 3.1, with all firmware i'm try, wifi always working nice, connect in less than 1s, so...
I have had the wifi problem and the fix for it is pressing the reset button up to two time. Doing once worked for me but some people have to do it twice to fix the problem. I am rooted with the adhoc fix. O be sure to turn off wifi between reset and forget connection.
WereCatf said:
I'm happy with my tablet, haven't had any issues with it, and I really mean it; none whatsoever. As such I sure wouldn't partake in any class action suit.
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Rooted, running latest official 3.1 build and have no issues. GPS works great. Wifi works great. System is fast, web browsing is great, and I am impressed by the structural integrity of the unit - don't use any screen protection, been using my a500 hours a day and not a single scratch on the screen.
Highly recommended this unit to friends and family, who report similar experiences.
OP - maybe you are doing it wrong?
WiFi got better for me after the 3.0.1 update then alot better after the 3.1 update. Then someone on the forum suggested firmware updates for the router. Bingo!
Also I don't care much for lawyers, especially class action lawyers.
If it wasn't for lawyers we wouldn't need lawyers.
What's black and brown and looks good on a lawyer? A doberman.
There was a dead skunk and a dead lawyer in the middle of the road, what was the difference? Skid marks in front of the skunk.
Hi guys. So I'm considering buying a Wileyfox Storm because of the price/value ratio.
There's not much information that can be found about the phone regarding it's OTG support on the internet. Some comparison sites imply NOT, and other sites have something cryptic like USB OTG (TBC). LIKE WHAT?! For that matter, there's not that much info and support for the device at all, nevermind any nongeneric cases or covers.
Anyway since I couldn't find a definite answer, I wanted to ask the actual owners of the Storm if their device supports OTG if they've ever tried it. And if you haven't ever tried testing it, would you mind doing so?
Thanks guys!
I installed USB OTG Checker which showed my Storm has the USB OTG API. However I can't test for USB OTG Kernel or Driver Signal as I don't have a USB OTG cable or adapter at the moment. Hoping to borrow one or buy one in the next few days. Will let you know the outcome.
Regards.
Brian
I received my £0.99 OTG USB adaptor in the post from an eBay seller today and it works. With ES File Explorer or Solid Explorer it shows the contents of my memory stick and I can read text files, etc.
So the answer to your question is yes the Storm does support OTG.
Brian
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Brianrh said:
I received my £0.99 OTG USB adaptor in the post from an eBay seller today and it works. With ES File Explorer or Solid Explorer it shows the contents of my memory stick and I can read text files, etc.
So the answer to your question is yes the Storm does support OTG.
Brian
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Hi Brian,
That's fantastic! I really can't thank you enough for taking the effort of experimenting the OTG feature on the Storm :good:.
If you don't mind I'd also like to know your thoughts on the device and if you'd recommend it. From what I've understood is that the battery is probably the biggest disadvantage in the phone, but how ''bad'' is it actually? How often do you have to charge your phone under a certain usage?
And also I don't know if you use it for gaming, but if you have done so, does it perform decently?
Thanks mate!
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Hi Brian,
That's fantastic! I really can't thank you enough for taking the effort of experimenting the OTG feature on the Storm :good:.
If you don't mind I'd also like to know your thoughts on the device and if you'd recommend it. From what I've understood is that the battery is probably the biggest disadvantage in the phone, but how ''bad'' is it actually? How often do you have to charge your phone under a certain usage?
And also I don't know if you use it for gaming, but if you have done so, does it perform decently?
Thanks mate!
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I've had my Storm since Christmas and I am generally pleased with it these days. The last OTA update made a big difference to the reliable operation of mine after a bit of a wobbly start but I have read that others have had a few hardware problems along the way. I don't know if it is still the case but I haven't seen any new complaints recently. If you are going to buy SIM free I would play safe and get one from somewhere like Amazon who have good returns policy if you do happen to get a "lemon".
My previous phone was a gen 1 Moto G running Cyanogenmod and battery life with my Storm is equally good but then I am a very light user and I can get about 2 days out of a full charge. However if I run Google Maps for my daily commute the battery goes down quite quickly which I suppose is due to that big display being on all the time but probably no worse than my Moto G was. The Storm is quite responsive but I've never used it for gaming so you wll have to ask others about this on this forum. The Cyanogen Mod forum is also worth reading through:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/forum/1212-wileyfox-storm-kipper/
I'm very pleased with mine for what I need it to do but like others are saying we do need a decent case for it.
Hope this helps.
Brian
Brianrh said:
I've had my Storm since Christmas and I am generally pleased with it these days. The last OTA update made a big difference to the reliable operation of mine after a bit of a wobbly start but I have read that others have had a few hardware problems along the way. I don't know if it is still the case but I haven't seen any new complaints recently. If you are going to buy SIM free I would play safe and get one from somewhere like Amazon who have good returns policy if you do happen to get a "lemon".
My previous phone was a gen 1 Moto G running Cyanogenmod and battery life with my Storm is equally good but then I am a very light user and I can get about 2 days out of a full charge. However if I run Google Maps for my daily commute the battery goes down quite quickly which I suppose is due to that big display being on all the time but probably no worse than my Moto G was. The Storm is quite responsive but I've never used it for gaming so you wll have to ask others about this on this forum. The Cyanogen Mod forum is also worth reading through:
I'm very pleased with mine for what I need it to do but like others are saying we do need a decent case for it.
Hope this helps.
Brian
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That was pretty helpful thanks. I'm stuck in a dilemma now. It's either going to be the Storm or the OnePlus X (roughly the same price).
The OP X does rock the more powerful Snapdragon 801, however the bigger screen, front facing camera flash and 32 GB of internal storage on the Storm seem to be dragging me towards it immensely.
Also the OP X has loads of support and threads going for it while the Storm seems to be nearly dead on the internet.
Which would you honestly get if you were phoneless and had to choose one of the two?
It is early days for the Storm but Wileyfox the company seem to be more intent on pushing the brand and new sales rather than nurtering and building up a strong reputation. In theory Wileyfox being UK based should have the better customer service but many people haven't found this.
The OP X has as you say a strong following and seems a better phone than it's earlier models with a more straight forward means of purchasing it these days. I like Cyanogen having used it for many years on several mobiles but I don't know much about Oxygen OS on the OP X? OP phones have been on the market longer, hence have sold more phones and consequently there will be more information on the internet. I think they have had their share of hardware problems in the past but perhaps this is the risk you take with good value mobiles like these.
One of the things at the top of my list was what to do in the event of a hardware problem and I thought with a few retails here in the UK and Amazon stocking the Storm it might be a safer bet and I have read on here about people returning their phones to Amazon at least once. When I bought my Storm at Christmas I was also looking at the LG G3 (i think it was that one) which was on special offer but went for the Storm mainly from the reviews I'd read. Although I am perfectly happy with the Storm reading other posts on here makes me wonder at the longevity of the Storm but this is probably the case with the OP X too. Only time will tell.
I wouldn't want to advise on which one to choose but perhaps make a list comparing the things important to you and then follow your heart. At least that way if you are unfortunate enough to have problems you will know that you made the best decision at the time.
Good luck.
Brian