[Q] Question rooting BL7 - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Apologies if its been answered but couldn't find one. Also it might be silly but still I need to ask.
I've got a Defy+
Version: 4.5.1 -134 DFP-231 which I need to root.
After looking through the forums, I ended up here.
My questions is regarding the files mentioned in the thread we need to flash.
Are those full sbf's? (Do I need to worry about the CG versions?)
And after rooting, In case I need to unroot, will I be able to flash my stock ROM back??

Worry about what? "Upgrading" to BL8? Don't worry, can't get any worse than BL7

yeah.. It can't get worse..
I'll go for it..
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These "original full sbf.gz files" should work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22491092

defim said:
These "original full sbf.gz files" should work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22491092
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Yeah.! I've got the stock SBF.
And to add, I've successfully rooted my Defy+ ..

neo.ank said:
And to add, I've successfully rooted my Defy+ ..
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I will do in some days. *afraid*

neo.ank, could you tell me what did you do step by step to root your defy, please? Here is so many manual that I'm confused. I have the same version DFP 231 like you have.
Thanks
I've already done it.

I have a question regarding defy+ on 231. If i root it using the new root methods for BL7, will I be able to install a dual boot system, i.e. retaining my stock rom AND adding cm9 (either quarx or epsilon)?
If I can't do the dual boot install, will only cm9 install?

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[Q] Can I flash Defy+ MB526 Firmware on a MB525?

I was wondering if I could flash this (UK version) Defy+ MB526 Firmware on a MB525 (red lens) without any problem?
Could someone be so kind as to share a little knowledge here?
Thanks in advance.
I flashed this full sbf and now no 3g and no market, trying to downgrade, hope to find and answer.
I dont think there is a downgrade after you flash full-sbf. we can only use cm9 and GB kernel roms after that.
TheMayor said:
I flashed this full sbf and now no 3g and no market, trying to downgrade, hope to find and answer.
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you can not do that. Defy and Defy+ have locked bootloader that wont allow the downgrade. Still there is hope for your phone, your issues are quite solvable. You should root your phone, install baseband switcher for 3g, then install custom recovery and then flash google apps, all of this you can find it in the dev section.
If you ask there I would gladly help
u can flash ms2ginger, argentstone, CM7, CM9 but to install there u must root your phone, custom recovery...

[Q]Defy+ 2.3.5

So i just bought a defy+ and it has 2.3.5. Stupid carrier.
Well, im trying to find which baseband is using but its not listed in the about phone menu. Is there any other way around?
I want to install a custom rom with 720p, but all there are so many different kernels i have no idea which one to use, or if i even need to flash one. My previous phone was a Xperia X8, you just had to unlock BL, flash kernel and flash rom. Here, theres the SBF files , the nandroid stuff. Are you supposed to use both?
If anyone can recommend me a rom thats not MIUI(i need my drawer ok) or ICS, i would appreciated.
Anyway, i need to know the baseband to see if i can try the soft simunlock.
Here is my build number :4.5.2-51_DFL-50 whatever it means.
ps: i already made a backup with cwm of the stock rom and also rooted my phone.
To flash a sbf you have to download RSD Lite and drivers, here u have the steps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537. Then, install the rom u like from recovery. Here u have all Epsylon and Quarx ICS nightlys (ICS, CM9) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100. With Defy+ use gb Kernel.
I just have some questions regarding the kernels. If i install the ICS roms and then i want to go back, which kernel i need to flash to be able to restore my phone using the nandroid backup i made.
densets said:
I just have some questions regarding the kernels. If i install the ICS roms and then i want to go back, which kernel i need to flash to be able to restore my phone using the nandroid backup i made.
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None, because when you are doing full backup a copy of a kernel is included.
Then im going to update CWM, make a new backup just in case and start to play a around a bit.
Thanks for the help ^^
ps: is there anything wrong with 2.3.5? just asking because i hardly see any posts related to this android version
densets said:
Then im going to update CWM, make a new backup just in case and start to play a around a bit.
Thanks for the help ^^
ps: is there anything wrong with 2.3.5? just asking because i hardly see any posts related to this android version
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2.3.5 is perfectly fine! It's what I use as a base for both CM7.2 and CM9 builds for Gingerbread and it's great! It's rootable and you can even flash down to Froyo if you wish so, there's a special version 6 Froyo sbf in the forums.
If you have any doubts or if anything confuses you, please do ask before trying, that will save you both time and nerves
Full 2.3.5 sbf that I use: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umt...22_A022_M002_HWp3_WIG148094_Service1FF.sbf.gz
*EDIT* Just read the whole first post You can use Quarx's CM7.2 and CM9 defy+ nightlies on your phone without flashing anything else but the ROM zip and gapps zip (optional, as you know). Both available here - http://quarx2k.ru/
i have one more question regard the defy+,
If i flash the cm7.2 or cm9 builds by Quarx and want to go back, i just need to restore the backup i made with cwm right? or do i really need to get the sbf from my carrier?
is there any difference(flashing a sbf or restoring form nandroid. Not in procedure but in the final result)?
densets said:
i have one more question regard the defy+,
If i flash the cm7.2 or cm9 builds by Quarx and want to go back, i just need to restore the backup i made with cwm right? or do i really need to get the sbf from my carrier?
is there any difference(flashing a sbf or restoring form nandroid. Not in procedure but in the final result)?
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Yep restoring the backup will suffice but if you want to get back your warranty you need to uninstall CWM and any other root apps and unroot your phone. That won't leave any trace of root.
Following are some main differences in flashing nandroid and SBF:
1.) Nandroid backup restores your phone to exact state as it was during backup. SBF gives you back exactly how your phone was when you purchased it. Thus, you still have root and CWM after nandroid whereas your phone is clean as new after SBF(recomended to claim warranty).
2.) SBF flashes almost everything except data partition! Nandroid flashes even the data partition..
Thanks for the help, ill use nandroid until i get back. Besides cwm is easy to remove.
^^
I have a question, I have a stock defy (Bayer, according logcat)..
The android version that it has is 2.2.1 and build version is 3.4.2-107_JDNL-9..
Once I root it and install CWM, can I just flash any rom, like the one you link above or I need to use RSD lite for something before?
I'm sorry for the noob questions but never had a motorola before, always nexus line which has unlocked bootloader..
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JakeOcn said:
I have a question, I have a stock defy (Bayer, according logcat)..
The android version that it has is 2.2.1 and build version is 3.4.2-107_JDNL-9..
Once I root it and install CWM, can I just flash any rom, like the one you link above or I need to use RSD lite for something before?
I'm sorry for the noob questions but never had a motorola before, always nexus line which has unlocked bootloader..
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Yep once you have CWM you can go on with flashing ROMs with ease. You need RSD lite and SBBF only if you soft brick your phone(Very hard!) or want to go back to stock to claim warranty.
Thank you for your help
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[Q] Downgrade & Bootloader ?

Hi,
I have seen soo many BL7 and Bootloader posts for Defy & Defy+, do these bootloaders in anyway assist Defy users using 4.5.1-134 Orange GB Blur or 4.5.1-128 Orange GB Blur(Android 2.3.4 "Gingerbread" !!BETA!!), downgrade to ANY Froyo sbf ?
What is the use of having BL7 or is it only for Defy+ users to use custom roms ?, I'm confused please help... :S
Thanks,
Scan
scan06disk said:
Hi,
I have seen soo many BL7 and Bootloader posts for Defy & Defy+, do these bootloaders in anyway assist Defy users using 4.5.1-134 Orange GB Blur or 4.5.1-128 Orange GB Blur(Android 2.3.4 "Gingerbread" !!BETA!!), downgrade to ANY Froyo sbf ?
What is the use of having BL7 or is it only for Defy+ users ?, I'm confused... :S
Thanks,
Scan
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You got it a little wrong. BL7 doesn't assist in using any ROM. BL7(BootLoader 7) is referred to stock Gingerbread (2.3.6) SBF's from Motorola (for Defy+) which have been signed as version 7. If you have a BL7 ROM on your device (either a stock or flashed one), You CANNOT Downgrade to anything, and will be stuck at 2.3.6
neo.ank said:
If you have a BL7 ROM on your device (either a stock or flashed one), You CANNOT Downgrade to anything, and will be stuck at 2.3.6
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Oh ok I think I got it...!, so basically since I'm still on 2.3.4 I can play with all those custom roms, than those stuck on 2.3.6 who until now had nothing because BL was locked to stock rom and wouldn't allow a custom rom to run ?
Good thing i didn't flash 2.3.6... lol
THAAAANKS NEO.ank !!!
scan06disk said:
Oh ok I think I got it...!, so basically since I'm still on 2.3.4 I can play with all those custom roms, than those stuck on 2.3.6 who until now had nothing because BL was locked to stock rom and wouldn't allow a custom rom to run ?
Good thing i didn't flash 2.3.6... lol
THAAAANKS NEO.ank !!!
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The root methods for previous versions do not work with BL7.Though its rootable, still it cannot downgrade so the custom ROMs for froyo kernel won't work.
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Defy+ / MB526 - Wanting to root, just want to make sure

i've had a couple of defys before and a defy+ (im hard on phones) i'm now on my 2nd defy + and this time i have been unable to root it.
in the past i have used superoneclick.
i hae found various threads around with people having the same problem, but none with a detailed guide of what will and will not work
the versions on my phone are as follows
system version : 45.0.1881.MB526.O2.en.IE
Model number: MB626
Android Version 2.3.6
Baseband Version EPU93_U_00.60.02
Kernel Version [email protected]#1
Build Number 4.5.1-134_DFP-1881
Can anyone Please help me? i hate the stock rom and lack of speed!
Thanks in adavnce
That one's got one of the latest firmwares from Moto which are signed as BL7.
This is the way to go - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956
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So once i've done that am i able to install the cm roms etc like before on my previous phones?
Thanks
B0000M said:
So once i've done that am i able to install the cm roms etc like before on my previous phones?
Thanks
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Once rooted it is same as you modded your defy.
2ndInit>CWM>Custom ROM.
Confusion
neo.ank said:
Once rooted it is same as you modded your defy.
2ndInit>CWM>Custom ROM.
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I also want to root my Defy+ but I m having some doubts and questions -
Will I be able to revert back to(flash) Stock SBF? I do possess the stock SBF of my region.
Although I am sure it won't but, will the bootloader and stock recovery be affected? And if yes how I am going to COMPLETELY revert back?
Success! Now rooted and running cm9
As for returning it to standard I can't confirm, but once you go. Cm you don't want to go back
Axelssj99 said:
I also want to root my Defy+ but I m having some doubts and questions -
Will I be able to revert back to(flash) Stock SBF? I do possess the stock SBF of my region.
Although I am sure it won't but, will the bootloader and stock recovery be affected? And if yes how I am going to COMPLETELY revert back?
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You can revert it completely by flashing your stock SBF.
btw what's the build number on your device.?
Build
B0000M said:
As for returning it to standard I can't confirm, but once you go. Cm you don't want to go back
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- To claim your warranty or to revert any mishap, you HAVE to.
neo.ank said:
You can revert it completely by flashing your stock SBF.
btw what's the build number on your device.?
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- Build Number 4.5.1-134_DFP-231; Same as the SBFs provided and Sys. ver. is 45.0.2310.MB526.AsiaRetail.en.03(you know, Indian Defy+, assuming they all have same numbers/versions).
What about the BL or recovery, will they affected?
Axelssj99 said:
- To claim your warranty or to revert any mishap, you HAVE to.
- Build Number 4.5.1-134_DFP-231; Same as the SBFs provided and Sys. ver. is 45.0.2310.MB526.AsiaRetail.en.03(you know, Indian Defy+, assuming they all have same numbers/versions).
What about the BL or recovery, will they affected?
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You have a BL7 device.
Don't worry 'bout anything, just go with the modding & whenever you want to revert just flash your stock SBF and your phone will be just as you bought it including recovery and BL.

[Q] help me please!! I Want to return to mb525

My defy mb525 flash a mistake DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231
My defy mb525 become defy+ mb526.I can use it without any problems.
But every time to off the screen It can not open it up again I must reset phone in order to use it again.Can I fix it?
I really want to be defy mb525.
Help me please!!
You could try flashing a MB525(defy) sbf from the bootloader menu.
I'm no expert, but this is the direction I'd head in.
jennifer_d said:
You could try flashing a MB525(defy) sbf from the bootloader menu.
I'm no expert, but this is the direction I'd head in.
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No, that's won't work. Defy got bootloader locked, we can't flash older build than current firmware.
Refers to "CG Versions" here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
To i2enon the only way I can think off, is to root your phone like the way Defy+ with DFP-321 build did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956
Then install a custom rom that work on both models; MS2ginger 5.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839

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