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Same devices like HTC HD2 with Snapdragon, when you overclock the CPU, the same happens with GPU...
But in our case ( defy ) is not the same...
By default ( where i know ) PowerVR SGX530 it's runing AT 200Mhz, but can run higher, than 200mhz ( 400mhz i think ).
We can overclock the GPU to get more 3D performance, witouth sacrificate the battery?
Why do you think the GPU can run at twice the default clock speed?
If there is an article you have read that states or suggests this - please provide a link.
by default it's runing at 110Mhz ( i think )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR
the default clock is 200Mhz, and i thing can go furher.
I have seen traces of 125mhz looking in the system files, but thats more of a guess
Sent from my Defy
tomeu0000 said:
by default it's runing at 110Mhz ( i think )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR
the default clock is 200Mhz, and i thing can go furher.
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according to ti, it is [email protected] (all 3630 is)
well it's either CORE_CLK/6 (0x1) or "full speed" (0x0) (CONTROL_FEATURE_OMAP_STATUS)
racca said:
according to ti, it is [email protected] (all 3630 is)
well it's either CORE_CLK/6 (0x1) or "full speed" (0x0) (CONTROL_FEATURE_OMAP_STATUS)
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Ok, but is there any way to overclock the GPU? at 250 or 300mhz maybe?
This program on the market says it can overclock GPU:
Overclocking (GPU / CPU) https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cpufree
but doesn't seem worth trying since it has a very very bad rating and comments.
Last app update was 5 months ago.
Can someone find an app worth trying?
mrolp said:
This program on the market says it can overclock GPU:
Overclocking (GPU / CPU) https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cpufree
but doesn't seem worth trying since it has a very very bad rating and comments.
Last app update was 5 months ago.
Can someone find an app worth trying?
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I think i have used it before but it doesn't work...
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Would be cool if the gpu ups with CPU, but like mentioned above...I think the omap3630 is locked at 200mhz
If anyone knows how to do a gpu OC...please share
dunno about you guys, but as far as i know, the gpu is integrated in the cpu chip (its like an extra core so to say), so it should be overclocked with the cpu. and whenever i ocd the cpu, i experienced graphics improvements, so i think, thats the answer, they oc together.
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dunno about you guys, but as far as i know, the gpu is integrated in the cpu chip (its like an extra core so to say), so it should be overclocked with the cpu. and whenever i ocd the cpu, i experienced graphics improvements, so i think, thats the answer, they oc together.
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No they do not OC together i am afraid. Most of Android UI is being drawn by CPU and not by GPU as many thinks :/
Well, I've experienced minor changes when OCing my Defy from 1ghz to 1.3ghz, when using Neocore... it went from 39fps to 39.3 fps, but such small changes are expected, even without OC...
i live in china, the mistakes of language please skip them
1. CPU
OMAP 3630 Ti factory frequency is 720mhz, not 1ghz
here is the Ti official link: focus.ti.c o m/pr/docs/preldetail.tsp?prelId=sc09020§ionId=594
i really appraciate the quality of Ti CPU...I'm using ms2 at 1.3ghz, compare with the factory frequency,580mhz more.
is there any danger to overclock so much?
please give me some suggestion
2.Touch screen
i don't the details about the problem that ms2 has the touch delay...
someone says that it is caused by rom, others think it's about the screen quality.
i just want to know is the ms2 in other countries have the problem?
or droid 2 have the same problem?
how to resolve the problem?
3.bootloader&bootstrap
MOTO's official rom is really ungelivable, and bootloader lock the rom...
but bootstrap can escape the bootloader and put in the rom without certification or authorizing...
so why there isn't enough rom we can use?
i know the agen2stone, but the temprature is really let me feel scared...sometimes over 50C (temprature in china and about 122F)...and i don't like the UI. the most important , it is based on the official rom...but it is much better than official rom...
expecting a2s 2.0...
3.1 CM7 AND unofficial rom
defy have already had the CM7 and MIUI...
MS2 AND DEFY both have the bootloader, to adjust roms for defy into ms2 is much easier than other way(personal thinking, may be not correct).
i'm not good at development, hoping some developers can take my suggestion to get success on the CM7 or unofficial rom for ms2...
i can't use link yet, skip the space between the c o m in the link.
thanks
1. Orig Milestone is based on TI OMAP 3430 with 550mhz processor. People overclocking it to 1,2ghz. Milestone 2 which is based on TI OMAP 3630 (as well as Droid 2) is overclocked to 1ghz, and Droid 2 Global to 1,2ghz with the same chip, and it's stock frequency set by Motorola. I think they wouldn't overclock it if there would be any danger. More dangerous to your cpu is to high vsel level and temperature
2. I bet it's a software/touchscreen drivers problem. Anyway I will report it to them with some vid samples with comparison to other devices . I hope they will fix it with next updates.
3.
so why there isn't enough rom we can use?
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I'd love to know that as well...
mkmck said:
Milestone 2 which is based on TI OMAP 3630 (as well as Droid 2) is overclocked to 1ghz, and Droid 2 Global to 1,2ghz with the same chip
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http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid2/ --> Motorola says Droid 2 is based on omap 3620 (I don't know the differences)
I find max frequency at 1350Mhz (with stock vsel 66) and from what I've seen in other european Milestone2, it seems to be the limit of this device.
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I find max frequency at 1350Mhz (with stock vsel 66) and from what I've seen in other european Milestone2, it seems to be the limit of this device.
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Same here. Mine, with 1400 was rebooting
zhaoyihan said:
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MOTO's official rom is really ungelivable, and bootloader lock the rom...
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I don't think a non-Chinese-speaking could get the meaning of ungelivable.
It's kind of kuso and totally Chinglish.
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i live in china, the mistakes of language please skip them
1. CPU
OMAP 3630 Ti factory frequency is 720mhz, not 1ghz
here is the Ti official link: focus.ti.c o m/pr/docs/preldetail.tsp?prelId=sc09020§ionId=594
i really appraciate the quality of Ti CPU...I'm using ms2 at 1.3ghz, compare with the factory frequency,580mhz more.
is there any danger to overclock so much?
please give me some suggestion
2.Touch screen
i don't the details about the problem that ms2 has the touch delay...
someone says that it is caused by rom, others think it's about the screen quality.
i just want to know is the ms2 in other countries have the problem?
or droid 2 have the same problem?
how to resolve the problem?
3.bootloader&bootstrap
MOTO's official rom is really ungelivable, and bootloader lock the rom...
but bootstrap can escape the bootloader and put in the rom without certification or authorizing...
so why there isn't enough rom we can use?
i know the agen2stone, but the temprature is really let me feel scared...sometimes over 50C (temprature in china and about 122F)...and i don't like the UI. the most important , it is based on the official rom...but it is much better than official rom...
expecting a2s 2.0...
3.1 CM7 AND unofficial rom
defy have already had the CM7 and MIUI...
MS2 AND DEFY both have the bootloader, to adjust roms for defy into ms2 is much easier than other way(personal thinking, may be not correct).
i'm not good at development, hoping some developers can take my suggestion to get success on the CM7 or unofficial rom for ms2...
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1.No need to worry about this
2.The cause is commomly considered to be the ROM itself.However, due to the BL , we can`t solve now.
3. There is a hardware checker in Milestone2, which will check the kernel everytime we boot the rom. Bootstrap just partly bypass the BL in software. STill not able to run custom kernel. So there is no real custom rom for us.
3.1 There is still some differences between their BLs. According to Mikevhl, MS2`s BL somehow locks more. But I think it`s just the matter of DEV`s effort. DEFY has many many many DEVS......while we MS2er just has MIKEVHL.........
For now, just support MIKEVHL and await him to release something
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I don't think a non-Chinese-speaking could get the meaning of ungelivable.
It's kind of kuso and totally Chinglish.
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ungelivable roughly means " Not work well "
Endless7 said:
1.No need to worry about this
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Agreed,
Think about manufacture process of different CPUs which have the similar architecture.
They made from one silicon wafer but they labeled different clock rates depend on different stability levels in testing, and, this is not the frequency they designed for.
Manufacturers can also block some cores, L2-cache or something, so, that's AMD Phenom X3 and Phenom X4, some models of Intel Celeron and Pentium.
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http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid2/ --> Motorola says Droid 2 is based on omap 3620 (I don't know the differences)
I find max frequency at 1350Mhz (with stock vsel 66) and from what I've seen in other european Milestone2, it seems to be the limit of this device.
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My limit is 1355Mhz with 72 vsel, 66vsel will cause force close in media playback.
Endless7 said:
ungelivable roughly means " Not work well "
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Actually, this word came form a Chinese network language ( or slang ) "给力" which speaks just like "geli". It means energetic, very helpful or forcefulness. So "ungelivable" was made by the morphology of English words.
For example: The cheat sheet is sooooo ungelivable, I can't find anything related on it!
Congratulations, you got it.
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My limit is 1355Mhz with 72 vsel, 66vsel will cause force close in media playback.
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From the official web page from Ti, the difference between 3630 and 3620 is the 720p...3630 can play 720p originally, but 3620 wasn't...Maybe MOTO fortify it with PowerVR 530...
here is the pic:View attachment 607640
So in CM7 there is an option to overclock the Desire Z.
Now my question is if I can do this without having to worry about damaging my phone?
For example, the desire Z has a 800MHZ processor, so will it damage my phone to overclock it to 1000MHZ? Or maybe 1200 MHZ?
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So in CM7 there is an option to overclock the Desire Z.
Now my question is if I can do this without having to worry about damaging my phone?
For example, the desire Z has a 800MHZ processor, so will it damage my phone to overclock it to 1000MHZ? Or maybe 1200 MHZ?
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well it depends if your kernel allows overclocking to that speeds. if it dosent its very risky but if it does support it then its not that risky. for me i have e kernel that goes to 1.7 ghz so i safely clocked it to 1.5 ghz
Sorry, I'm really a noob, but what kernel do I have with CM7?
And where can I get other kernels?
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Sorry, I'm really a noob, but what kernel do I have with CM7?
And where can I get other kernels?
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sorry but i dont sure CM7, im using virtuous unity rom so i wouldnt know. but im sure your using the stock kernel that comes with cm7. just ask someone who has cm7. also there are a wide variety of kernels that you can use. just search them up on google or the xda developer forums
The CM 7 Kernal will allow you to overclock up to 1.5ghz (which for the DZ/G2 seems to be the consensus of a 'safe' overclock)
One thing to remember is that not all processors are created equal. Meaning that although we all have the same processor in our phone, some processors are able to handle overclocking better than others. It also depends on what you use your phone for and how much you need the overclock for what you are doing. I ran my device at 1.2 ghz for a while and now run it at 1ghz as it feels plenty fast to me. When playing some graphic intensive games, a higher overclock may help performance as well.
If you overclock and your phone starts to act up, then dial it down a bit. 1.5ghz is fast as hell but will alter voltage and affect battery life as well. Just play around with and see where you like your CPU speed to be at. But you shouldn't have to worry about damaging the processor by overclocking. If its more than it can handle, you will know quickly and can tone it down.
So just for example if I'm going to use Virtious(I quit because it's lagging on the Desire Z) and install this kernel and overclock my desire z up to 1,500 mhz, virtious should run way smoother, right?
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well it depends if your kernel allows overclocking to that speeds. if it dosent its very risky but if it does support it then its not that risky. for me i have e kernel that goes to 1.7 ghz so i safely clocked it to 1.5 ghz
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if your kernel doesn't support overclocking, you can't overclock no matter what... there is nothing "unsafe" about overclocking without an overclocking kernel because it cannot be done.
OP: cyanogen has its own overclocking kernel (with capability up to 1516mhz) built-in. as far as safety, it depends on your device, but the most common worst-case scenario is random restarting issues or waking issues.
on CM7, with a launcher other than the bundled ADW launcher which is choppy and slow no matter how high you're clocked, you should be able to have a smooth experience at stock speeds. I am clocked at between 1017 and 1209mhz at any given point as I have been since January and I haven't ever experienced wake or random reboot issues. YMMV but I think the general consensus for the Vision is that a mild overclock is very safe.
HELP!
I overclocked my DZ, but didn't really notice any difference, since CM7 is pretty smooth without overclocking, but know suddenly my device begins to lag very very bad. I put the CPU limit back to 245MHZ to 806MHZ but it keeps lagging:-(
whitis said:
HELP!
I overclocked my DZ, but didn't really notice any difference, since CM7 is pretty smooth without overclocking, but know suddenly my device begins to lag very very bad. I put the CPU limit back to 245MHZ to 806MHZ but it keeps lagging:-(
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which governor are you using? which launcher? have you rebooted?
Hi, how can i overclock my tf300t (Clean rom 2.5 oveclock 1.6ghz) to 2.0 Ghz? i read something in the forum but there isn't any kind of guide, i want know if the tablet is stable with this frequency, and if i risk something.
thanks
anthraxx90 said:
Hi, how can i overclock my tf300t (Clean rom 2.5 oveclock 1.6ghz) to 2.0 Ghz? i read something in the forum but there isn't any kind of guide, i want know if the tablet is stable with this frequency, and if i risk something.
thanks
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Why would you need to overclock so high? Do you want it to explode! xD
Seriously though, would probably advise against it. It's like a whole 700/800 MHz higher than it's meant to run at stock. I'd say it would be very unstable, and probably wouldn't get very far battery-life-wise. 1.6GHz really not enough :/
mozyman said:
Why would you need to overclock so high? Do you want it to explode! xD
Seriously though, would probably advise against it. It's like a whole 700/800 MHz higher than it's meant to run at stock. I'd say it would be very unstable, and probably wouldn't get very far battery-life-wise. 1.6GHz really not enough :/
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1.6ghz is ok? or i'll risk something?
I did that speed already. But it is very very unstable. random reboots within 10 minutes of use. also the battery life is very low. and the whole tablet is to hot.
i only was using it to see how fast it could go. that was the max. i am at Cutom Rom - 07/10/2012 - [email protected] Edition V02 - The Ultra Fast Rom - based on last Asus Firmware 10.4.2.13 at this moment.
this is very stable. balanced speed is 1.3 and thats oke. Normal performance speed is 1.6 but i only use that when playing games. You dont need those high speeds for daily use.
If you have the financial means to buy a new tablet - you can try all the time to work on this frequency.
With 1,6ghz i'll risk to break the tablet?
i used 2.0ghz about a week daily use. But now im lowered it to 1.8ghz and it is stable my everyday use. and battery lenght is very good maybe better than stock (i made undervoltage, so cpu uses -50mv less power in any speed than normaly/stock )1.8ghz use 1150mv and lowest speed use 775 mv)
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i used 2.0ghz about a week daily use. But now im lowered it to 1.8ghz and it is stable my everyday use. and battery lenght is very good maybe better than stock (i made undervoltage, so cpu uses -50mv less power in any speed than normaly/stock )1.8ghz use 1150mv and lowest speed use 775 mv)
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on tf300t? what kernel?
anthraxx90 said:
on tf300t? what kernel?
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yep on tf300, and i compiled kernel myself, adding these features on it. So it is no downloadable this moment.
ok, and it's normal random reboot on 1,6 ghz? the problem is voltage or kernel?
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ok, and it's normal random reboot on 1,6 ghz? the problem is voltage or kernel?
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well, if you raise voltage up it may help, but i thing the problem is, that every tablet cpu is "diffrent" than other. This i mean, that these cpu is specsed in other speed than 1.6, 1,8 or 2.0ghz, and some invidiuals might work good in these higher speeds, some get randon reboots / freeze, or some of cpu:s dont even boot higher speeds. (i found out that when few people test my kernel, and it not even booted. And someone it will work fine.) This thing can "cross" by made kernel force cpu speed 1.0ghz at bootup (and i made this my kernel)
Also these tf300 tablet is manufactured atleast couple of diffrent cpu type /cpu id, so kernel have to had support all of these overclocking
It just like computers, some cpu can overclock higher than others, and if you go too high you need extra cooling, and in tablets, it is not possible, like normal pc's
*Most of this is my conclusion only, it may not be 100% accurate truth, but this how i see this thing. And if someone knows better etc, you can correct me *
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well, if you raise voltage up it may help, but i thing the problem is, that every tablet cpu is "diffrent" than other. This i mean, that these cpu is specsed in other speed than 1.6, 1,8 or 2.0ghz, and some invidiuals might work good in these higher speeds, some get randon reboots / freeze, or some of cpu:s dont even boot higher speeds. (i found out that when few people test my kernel, and it not even booted. And someone it will work fine.) This thing can "cross" by made kernel force cpu speed 1.0ghz at bootup (and i made this my kernel)
Also these tf300 tablet is manufactured atleast couple of diffrent cpu type /cpu id, so kernel have to had support all of these overclocking
It just like computers, some cpu can overclock higher than others, and if you go too high you need extra cooling, and in tablets, it is not possible, like normal pc's
*Most of this is my conclusion only, it may not be 100% accurate truth, but this how i see this thing. And if someone knows better etc, you can correct me *
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ok when do you release ur kernel's download? i wanna try
anthraxx90 said:
ok when do you release ur kernel's download? i wanna try
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Well im not home right now, so i dont have any 2.0ghz or 1,8ghz kernel with me, i have only 1.7ghz oc kernel, so you can test it if you want. But just like always, im not taking any responsibility, so test /use it with own risk. https://www.dropbox.com/s/vvmti4knwkeflde/Nixu_Kernel_OC_1700_v0.1_alpha.zip
i'm afraid now loool, what would happen exactly?
after flashing the kernel is locked to the screen asus, does not want to start
That won't happen I flashed it
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What are the real frequency of Snapdragon 660 that use in this device...
If any one share screenshot that would be awesome....
Thanks ?
Screenshot Attached check :good::laugh:
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Screenshot Attached check :good::laugh:
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Need to be 2.2ghz
This SoC support up to 2.2 GHz.
But On stock kernel set to 1.96 GHz.
Waitting for custom kernel..
Randyshare said:
This SoC support up to 2.2 GHz.
But On stock kernel set to 1.96 GHz.
Waitting for custom kernel..
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Actually Snapdragon 660 has 2 variants. Asus used clocked 1.95ghz processor not 2.2ghz.
sachinm said:
Actually Snapdragon 660 has 2 variants. Asus used clocked 1.95ghz processor not 2.2ghz.
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CPU
CPU Clock Speed: From 1.95 GHz to 2.2 GHz
CPU Cores: 8x Qualcomm® Kryo™ 260 CPU
CPU Bit Architecture: 64-bit
Overclock
Can we overclock it. if yes then how. please post.
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CPU
CPU Clock Speed: From 1.95 GHz to 2.2 GHz
CPU Cores: 8x Qualcomm® Kryo™ 260 CPU
CPU Bit Architecture: 64-bit
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I have seen some videos and in that video it has been clearly said about snapdragons 2 varients.
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I have seen some videos and in that video it has been clearly said about snapdragons 2 varients.
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They said it in the wrong way, I also saw some videos saying "1.96 GHz variant of sd660". Nope. It's just underclocked. That's all.
kickyvivi said:
They said it in the wrong way, I also saw some videos saying "1.96 GHz variant of sd660". Nope. It's just underclocked. That's all.
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Hmm let's see
Cant we use kernel auditor to overclock it?
harilal1080 said:
Cant we use kernel auditor to overclock it?
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You need an overclocked custom kernel for that. Kernel auditor just tunes the parameters.
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You need an overclocked custom kernel for that. Kernel auditor just tunes the parameters.
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Ya right..
Randyshare said:
This SoC support up to 2.2 GHz.
But On stock kernel set to 1.96 GHz.
Waitting for custom kernel..
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I hope there are not any heating issues after overclocking it... I dont understand why Asus underclocked it in the first place ...
Tyakrish said:
I hope there are not any heating issues after overclocking it... I dont understand why Asus underclocked it in the first place ...
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Battery optimization of course. Youll find shortly after that the battery will drain faster if youve reverted back the kernel to 2.2ghz. they are eliminating the use of high frequency performances under low load conditions.
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Battery optimization of course. Youll find shortly after that the battery will drain faster if youve reverted back the kernel to 2.2ghz. they are eliminating the use of high frequency performances under low load conditions.
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I guess that might be it... But with root (kernel adiutor) we'll probably be able to adjust the higher frequencies ... In case someone comes up with a custom kernel... Since the sources are already released..