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I see several other threads on this subject, but all go into conversations on the use of third-party conversion software. I use a Sony Vegas Pro 8 video editing software which can convert to any format/settings (and incidentally costs more than the HTC device itself).
What I am looking for is the best video settings as for:
1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate
I’m trying differing settings at random, but as of yet haven’t resulting in a better video than was on my 2003 Palm T3. If I find a good fit I’ll post it, but would be interested to see if anyone has found the best settings mix. HTC tech support are no help and have little to no understanding of video formats.
PilotRMK said:
I see several other threads on this subject, but all go into conversations on the use of third-party conversion software. I use a Sony Vegas Pro 8 video editing software which can convert to any format/settings (and incidentally costs more than the HTC device itself).
What I am looking for is the best video settings as for:
1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate
I’m trying differing settings at random, but as of yet haven’t resulting in a better video than was on my 2003 Palm T3. If I find a good fit I’ll post it, but would be interested to see if anyone has found the best settings mix. HTC tech support are no help and have little to no understanding of video formats.
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1: mp4
2: video: h.264 audio: aac
3: 800 - 1500 Kbps audio: 128Kbps
4: 800x480 16:9 cropped
5: Original (25 -30)
Play the resulting file in Album htc player or Windows Media Player.
It's what I use and it works great!
Willy1973 that works much better, thanks. Still some intermittent stuttering, but I suppose thats down to so much overhead in WM6.
1500 is too much. Set 1000 and it wont lag ever.
^ I've used "super" for a long time, once you get the settings right, it's very good. However, my Touch HD wont play the videos i converted to my atom life.
Also even with the video bitrate set to 600 there is still some stuttering. (when using the default "video player". As of yet I've not been able to make WMP find any of the mp4 videos on my memory card, and the TF3D album only finds videos stored on the actual device itself.
The Blackstone video encoding GUI ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112 ) is neat and handy - especially if you just want to dump a few videos in and leave it running overnight - i've found it to be a bit slower than super, but there isnt much in it tbh.
I've not installed coreplayer yet -going to give that a try now, and see if that helps with the playback issues I'm having. But even so it would be nice to have the option of using WMP - if ayone has any ideas as to why it isnt finding the videos on my memory card? I've tried putting the vids in the main directory,and also tried creating a folder on the memory card called "video". Neither has worked yet.
Noodled24 said:
^ I've used "super" for a long time, once you get the settings right, it's very good. However, my Touch HD wont play the videos i converted to my atom life.
Also even with the video bitrate set to 600 there is still some stuttering. (when using the default "video player". As of yet I've not been able to make WMP find any of the mp4 videos on my memory card, and the TF3D album only finds videos stored on the actual device itself.
The Blackstone video encoding GUI ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112 ) is neat and handy - especially if you just want to dump a few videos in and leave it running overnight - i've found it to be a bit slower than super, but there isnt much in it tbh.
I've not installed coreplayer yet -going to give that a try now, and see if that helps with the playback issues I'm having. But even so it would be nice to have the option of using WMP - if ayone has any ideas as to why it isnt finding the videos on my memory card? I've tried putting the vids in the main directory,and also tried creating a folder on the memory card called "video". Neither has worked yet.
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WMP has a "open file.." menu item, for single files, in the library.
Album should find your memcard, press the left dialog-button, while in album..
Check out this post:
http://www.wmguides.com/guides?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=0&sobi2Id=20
Thanks!
willy1973 said:
WMP has a "open file.." menu item, for single files, in the library.
Album should find your memcard, press the left dialog-button, while in album..
Check out this post:
http://www.wmguides.com/guides?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=0&sobi2Id=20
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Thanks for that, I'm now able to locate the memory card and videos located on it via the "album"... i was only seeing the previews in the photo and video tab. Can now locate all!
With WMP I can locate single files... but cant understand why they're not showing up in the library. Even after being played via WMP. (I should add, it has no problem locating music files, just video)
Both these solutions seems to have eliminated the stuttering I was getting before.
The reason i like WMP so much is that when one video is finnished it moves to the next rather than stopping completely.
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...1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate...
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I'm experimenting with Catalyst DVD Converter which I found in another thread and am unable to completely eliminate that pesky frame dropping every few seconds on my HD. Here's what's working best so far
1: .avi
2: DIVX5
3: 500
4: 400x240 (autocropped by catalyst dvd to fill the screen, which I really like!)
5: 30
Note: I use CorePlayer to play the videos. One thing I've noticed is that although the mpeg4 and h.264 files do play ok on win media player mobile, mpeg4 files are much larger that divx, and h.264 (also .mp4 extension) take 2-3 time longer to encode to the device. I've not had good luck playing 800x480 files as they shudder so badly because there's 4 times as much info for the HD to process, and the 400x240 files play really nicely. I use Dutty's 1.5 rom with tnyynt's sd card tuneup cab, which I think is already incorporated into the rom???
Hope this helps... --Jesse
I've now disovered that WMP is finding my MP4 files, but for some reason it's adding them to my music library rather than to my video library?
Is there an option somewhere to tell it that .mp4 extentions are video?
SomethingWicked said:
I'm experimenting with Catalyst DVD Converter which I found in another thread and am unable to completely eliminate that pesky frame dropping every few seconds on my HD. Here's what's working best so far
1: .avi
2: DIVX5
3: 500
4: 400x240 (autocropped by catalyst dvd to fill the screen, which I really like!)
5: 30
Note: I use CorePlayer to play the videos. One thing I've noticed is that although the mpeg4 and h.264 files do play ok on win media player mobile, mpeg4 files are much larger that divx, and h.264 (also .mp4 extension) take 2-3 time longer to encode to the device. I've not had good luck playing 800x480 files as they shudder so badly because there's 4 times as much info for the HD to process, and the 400x240 files play really nicely. I use Dutty's 1.5 rom with tnyynt's sd card tuneup cab, which I think is already incorporated into the rom???
Hope this helps... --Jesse
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1/4 resolution and 500bitrate must be ugly
go where to set the video setting??? tks
SomethingWicked said:
I'm experimenting with Catalyst DVD Converter which I found in another thread and am unable to completely eliminate that pesky frame dropping every few seconds on my HD. Here's what's working best so far
1: .avi
2: DIVX5
3: 500
4: 400x240 (autocropped by catalyst dvd to fill the screen, which I really like!)
5: 30
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With DVD Catalyst 3 (which I presume is the same) I use the default settings
1: .mp4
2: h264_ipod_hq
3: 600
4: 800 x 480
5: 30
I play them back with the Album player, (if you just use your file explorer to find the file and click on it, it will play in Album player by default) and get totally stutter free video. I was particularly impressed by the action seens in Tropic Thunder and Star Wars, where I was expecting to see frames dropped. But there weren't any!!
I have converted at least 10 movies, some from DVD, and some from .avi's. It auto scans from either start up or insertion in your player then finds the correct file from all the .vobs etc. With .avi's, you can just drag and drop.
When using the autoscan for DVD's, it's worth checking preview within Catalyst to make sure it has picked the correct language version, or indeed if it needs subtitiles for a foriegn movie.
I have tried about 5 different programs now for conversion and have found this to be far and away the best. I have now put my money where my mouth is and purchased it. (For those that haven't tried, it is available on a 7 day trial)
Top notch Video on the HD that is well worth comparing with your mates' IPod at last.
Wolfenzi said:
1/4 resolution and 500bitrate must be ugly
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actually, if you'd read my message, you'd see where i said they play fine. in fact, theres a theead floating around discussing this. it's where i got the idea
Cap Loz said:
With DVD Catalyst 3 (which I presume is the same) I use the default settings
1: .mp4
2: h264_ipod_hq
3: 600
4: 800 x 480
5: 30
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sweet. thanks for the info. i'll convert a dvd right now
PilotRMK said:
I see several other threads on this subject, but all go into conversations on the use of third-party conversion software. I use a Sony Vegas Pro 8 video editing software which can convert to any format/settings (and incidentally costs more than the HTC device itself).
What I am looking for is the best video settings as for:
1: type (wmv, mp4, etc)
2: codec
3: bitrate
4: size
5: framerate
I’m trying differing settings at random, but as of yet haven’t resulting in a better video than was on my 2003 Palm T3. If I find a good fit I’ll post it, but would be interested to see if anyone has found the best settings mix. HTC tech support are no help and have little to no understanding of video formats.
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How do i convert the video using Sony Vegas? Ive tried "render to new track" but i cant choose the recomended video/audio settings there.
Noodled24 said:
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I've not installed coreplayer yet ...
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note that the only 2 players at the moment capable of playing video with hardware acceleration are tf3d music player and windows media player.
okay, whats the best movie format for the tilt2, i've searched and still confused, if mpeg4, avi, divx, etc...also what's the best app to watch them in: TCPMP, coreplayer or the stock steaming that is loaded already..etc....
thanks in advance,
fyi, might be will to share some movie by posting it on a server for a couple days...=)
What I prefer for movie format is straight up Windows Media Video . Its great and its stock for Windows Mobile.
The Encoder for your PPC is called Windows Meda Encoder 9 (Google it).
Instructions.
Here are the steps to get the video size you want, which I hope you will try, you must go to the New Session Wizard, then click on Convert a File (If you are trying to convert a video file into WMV).
Then find your source file which is your Video you want to watch on your TP2, after that choose your output (Where you want to put that file after it encoded into WMV)
After click Pocket PC (Note that you won't change resolution here)
After all that, choose specifically Pocket PC widescreen video (CBR), then choose the quality of your Bitrate, Audio, and if you want you can add all the Description to your video file if you'd like. (Note that you won't change resolution here either)
Click next, and DON'T check mark Begin converting when I click finish.
Then click finish, after that click Properties on your Windows Media Encoder 9 (it should be on top with a Check mark inside a paper symbol) and click the Video Size Tab. There at the bottom of the wizard you should find Width and Height, set the Resolution to 800 x 480 if you want to view your video horizantel or 480 x 800which is vertical ( which I don't prefer ) After all that, your video should be small but at a good quality and allowing you to have free space on your Micro SD card, and it should be playing on WMP on your phone.
Hope my 2 cents helps
Like avi... Have 700+Mb movie files converted from dvds and they work like a dream...
Use coreplayer...
I use this for converting to MPG4 and then I view using the HTC player.
http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/htc-touch-pro2/
Free and absolutely smooth. Easy and quick converting.
mhurg said:
I use this for converting to MPG4 and then I view using the HTC player.
http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/htc-touch-pro2/
Free and absolutely smooth. Easy and quick converting.
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I tried this but it puts in on an .mp4 format that does not play in my TP2, am I missing something? thanks.
i have another question, whats the best average size movie to put on the tilt 2 and still have good picture and runs smooth
About the average size for a movie would be almost 200MB to 300MB depending on the amount of time of the movie.
as anyone converted transformer 2 movie to mpeg4, i'm having problems...that movie won't let you convert?
apax said:
as anyone converted transformer 2 movie to mpeg4, i'm having problems...that movie won't let you convert?
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I suppose whether it can be converted properly or not depends on the software you are useing and the source of the file.... who knows what could be wrong with it if you stole it off the internet. If you ripped it from your own dvd/bluray and it isnt working I would say that's likely because what ever converter program you are using doesnt work.
That said.. I dont bother coverting anything really. avi/mpg whatever format they come in TCPMP or Core player will play them just fine.
Aaron McCarthy said:
I suppose whether it can be converted properly or not depends on the software you are useing and the source of the file.... who knows what could be wrong with it if you stole it off the internet. If you ripped it from your own dvd/bluray and it isnt working I would say that's likely because what ever converter program you are using doesnt work.
That said.. I dont bother coverting anything really. avi/mpg whatever format they come in TCPMP or Core player will play them just fine.
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i'm using roxio...but every other movie i was able to convert like avatar, fast and furious, etc....but the transformer 2 dvd i can not convert, i think it has to many files or protection lock on it....
my question is has anyone successfully converted transformer 2 movie?
media player
Ok go to this website www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com
go to the Apps section and download the total media player
Hi Folks-
I know there are several threads on video encoding, but I think I am asking something new. I am using the retail version of Winx DVD Ripper which does a nice job overcoming encryption from my store bought DVDs so I can rip to my computer and then transfer to my HD2. Problem is I have workable mp4 files on my computer that I can watch after the process, but I am having mixed success watching them on the HD2.
Just recently, I ripped a nice mp4 version of Avatar that played fine on my computer, but when I transferred it to the phone, it would show the circle for the video player for half a second and then go back to my file explorer. This also happened with Black Hawk Down. I've had success with other movies such as Iron Man, etc. Am I running into some form of copy protection? If so, I'm annoyed as these are 100% retail DVDs I have purchased.
Specific settings for Winx include 800x480 resolution, sound to at least 160, using high resolution mode, even safe mode the second time I ripped Avatar to see if that would help.
Any ideas would be most appreciated, thanks!
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
i view my movies using a divx player with no problems at all.
Mike
Try TCPMP player , install it then open the program and hit file than open and select the movie! let me know if this works.
xeebot said:
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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Its just called video encoding GUI (saying htc implies they made it, when they didn't). But yes, I can highly recommend using it.
Also using tcpmp doesn't allow for full hardware acceleration.
ibeQuint said:
Its just called video encoding GUI (saying htc implies they made it, when they didn't). But yes, I can highly recommend using it.
Also using tcpmp doesn't allow for full hardware acceleration.
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Good to know what player do you recommend?
core player and tcmp player work all the time.. Dix player"sometimes work" but has small keys and audio issues but at least you can adjust sound and timeframe in fullscreen.
I will try the other encoding program. I downloaded pocket divx player and I couldn't figure out how to open up a new file and I tried to follow the directions in the program. Is it possible that I am having a hard time with my mp4 files because I transferred them not via Activesync but by the other option that pops up when you first connect your phone to a computer? Will post in a bit when I try the new encoder.
Edit: Tried the new encoder, but all sorts of error messages when I showed them the contents of my Avatar DVD. I have 33 files on the actual DVD, which ones am I trying to encode?
Don't use the video encoding GUI as it is awfully slow and doesn't even give you a great image quality due to the settings being made suitable for a Touch HD.
Just head over to doom9 and download MeGui. A bit harder to use, but at least you'll be able to encode them in under an hour with great IQ.
Just did an encode of my Avatar Blu-Ray(45Gb) that took a little under an hour and ended up with a 3Gb file with a bitrate of 2453Kbps and max at 10Mbps. Split it into two files of 1500Mb and the HD2 played them like a champ without a stutter in sight.
I also recommend you download eac3to(for audio ripping) and yamb(mp4 splitting).
Will try meGUI, guess people are thinking it has to do with the encoding huh? Even if it works ok on my computer but not HD2?
did you try the tcpmp player?
tgerbracht said:
Will try meGUI, guess people are thinking it has to do with the encoding huh? Even if it works ok on my computer but not HD2?
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Yes. Just because it plays on the computer doesn't mean it'll play on the phone. Your computer's hardware is substantially "faster" than the HD2's. Optimizing the video through encoding is usually the answer.
Toss3 said:
Don't use the video encoding GUI as it is awfully slow and doesn't even give you a great image quality due to the settings being made suitable for a Touch HD.
Just head over to doom9 and download MeGui. A bit harder to use, but at least you'll be able to encode them in under an hour with great IQ.
Just did an encode of my Avatar Blu-Ray(45Gb) that took a little under an hour and ended up with a 3Gb file with a bitrate of 2453Kbps and max at 10Mbps. Split it into two files of 1500Mb and the HD2 played them like a champ without a stutter in sight.
I also recommend you download eac3to(for audio ripping) and yamb(mp4 splitting).
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Oof, this program does look confusing. I'm going to go through the help files and try to get a grasp of it all, but if you have some preset settings or a streamlined bit of advice, I'm all for it. So far I'm trying one-click method and I've been able to show it where the .vob files are and create a directory to place the file and working directory. There is a hick-up with something about the chapter titles and it looks like it needs a file but it shows nothing when I explore my DVD drive. The Megui wiki isn't very clear here...though the program looks promising!
try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
juwan de leon said:
try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
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Will try this-along with tcmp and will report back.
xeebot said:
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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wow.... cool app! Thanks for the link!!!
juwan de leon said:
try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
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THANKS! The ---only--- DVD encoder that just worked!
Edit:
Tried Handbrake (couldn't reliably read DVD to burn), Winx DVD Ripper (couldnt play on HD2), couldnt figure out meGUI and the other encoder linked here, and I didn't have to use any other player other than the nice HTC one. Thanks again.
tgerbracht said:
Hi Folks-
I know there are several threads on video encoding, but I think I am asking something new. I am using the retail version of Winx DVD Ripper which does a nice job overcoming encryption from my store bought DVDs so I can rip to my computer and then transfer to my HD2. Problem is I have workable mp4 files on my computer that I can watch after the process, but I am having mixed success watching them on the HD2.
Just recently, I ripped a nice mp4 version of Avatar that played fine on my computer, but when I transferred it to the phone, it would show the circle for the video player for half a second and then go back to my file explorer. This also happened with Black Hawk Down. I've had success with other movies such as Iron Man, etc. Am I running into some form of copy protection? If so, I'm annoyed as these are 100% retail DVDs I have purchased.
Specific settings for Winx include 800x480 resolution, sound to at least 160, using high resolution mode, even safe mode the second time I ripped Avatar to see if that would help.
Any ideas would be most appreciated, thanks!
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A lot of standalone players worldwide need a firmware update to make it work because Avatar BD uses a new encryption scheme called BD+ 5. I recommend u a blu ray ripper named PavTube. I think the Pavtube Blu-Ray Ripper Software is currently the best ripping software and surprisingly it can rip both DVDs & Blu-Ray Discs without the need of having a different Undo-Protection program. I have tried many brands of ripping software with poor results. PavTube Blue-Ray Ripper is a real "Swiss Knife". Download a demo version and you will find it is definitly worth buying.Experience Blu Ray Avatar in the center of your Home Theater System
I just used Vuze to convert 'Avatar', took like 6 hours!! Finally, it transferred it to my Evo and I *STILL* cannot play it, as before when I just threw the original unconverted MP4 on it....I've used rockplayer, and all of the other recommended video app's but NOTHING
Anybody have any luck, specifically with 'Avatar' ?
Try Dvd decrypter to rip then handbrake to transfer.
Sent from my HTC EVO
What codec did you use?
Download MediaInfo on your pc. Open the file in that, then switch to Tree view. Paste the results here, and I can tell you what you did wrong.
Sitlet : I'll attach the screenshot with the tree stats.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6891/ssavatarevo.png
The only thing I can see thats wrong is your file is over 3gb. The stock player can only play files under 2gb, so split the file into two videos and try that.
download Rockplayer Universal from the market. it works with mp4s
INebilim said:
download Rockplayer Universal from the market. it works with mp4s
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He said he tried that already. Its gotta be the file size
my avatar rip is 1.8gb and i used dvdfab, of course this is a dvdrip and not blueray, but it looks awesome and is a mp4
Are you coverting a dvd? Or a downloaded file?
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
Is there any application that can play VOB files (DVD) files on the A500?
I know that there are conversion programs, such as Handbrake, but the conversion process takes a long time.
Would it be simpler just to copy VOB files (they have to be unprotected first) on to the SD card or USB stick, and then play it.
banksia said:
Is there any application that can play VOB files (DVD) files on the A500?
I know that there are conversion programs, such as Handbrake, but the conversion process takes a long time.
Would it be simpler just to copy VOB files (they have to be unprotected first) on to the SD card or USB stick, and then play it.
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You can try apps like Rock Player, MoboPlayer, Vital Player(?), and etc. I've never tried playing VOB files and don't remember anyone asking if it'll work. So you can try if you want to, but I'm doubting it'll work without converting it.
Basically, VOB is another form of MPEG-2 PS. So there shouldn't be any problem playing VOB files.
If the VOB files are not recognized, you can try rename them to .MPG.
I don't have VOB now, so I can't test. Give them a try, and please report back.
Success!
Smooth video and good sound quality. Did not need to rename files. Simple copy from PC to A500.
Copied two sets of DVDs, i.e. the VOB Folders (VIDEO_TS) across to the A500 using the USB cable.
1) First DVD was a tennis match with a file size of 3.2GB
Took about 12 minutes to transfer the VIDEO_TS folder
- Rockplayer - played the without any problems
- Moboplayer - ditto
- Vplayer - ditto
But, with all three applications, I could not easily move about in the video, for example by dragging the marker that showed the place in the video. The fast forward button would send the marker to the end of the video.
2) Second DVD was a musical concert with a file size of 5.8GB
Took about 18 minutes to copy the VIDEO_TS folder over to the A500
- Rockplay - got stumped and kept asking me to 'Please choose audio track'. But after a couple of press of the Play button, the video began to play.
- Vplayer - could not get this to play the video.
- Moboplay was the best. It moved all the VOB files to the top of the directory and played the selected file without any problems.
While the file transfer did take a while, it sure beats encoding the video into another format. Hate to think how long it would take to encode the 5.8GB file in (2) above.
Now, if only VLC would bring out their player for Android.
I've been using moboplayer for this. Seems to play everything I throw at it, except for 720p MKVs(which just happen to compose about half my media...)
Same issue here. Have a good sized library of 1080p and 720p mkv's with some HD mp4's that I threw in for S&G's. None of them want to play right at all. I would have figured with the plug-in for A7 that Xoom people were reporting was the right one for Moboplayer, we'd at least have 720p capability, but nope. And I spent the whopping $10 for a micro to std HDMI cable at Fry's so I can use it as movie player at the hotels while I'm getting jet lag week to week.
1280x536 (what's considered 720p) AVI's are the best I can do so far.
lostsoul3471 said:
Same issue here. Have a good sized library of 1080p and 720p mkv's with some HD mp4's that I threw in for S&G's. None of them want to play right at all. I would have figured with the plug-in for A7 that Xoom people were reporting was the right one for Moboplayer, we'd at least have 720p capability, but nope. And I spent the whopping $10 for a micro to std HDMI cable at Fry's so I can use it as movie player at the hotels while I'm getting jet lag week to week.
1280x536 (what's considered 720p) AVI's are the best I can do so far.
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536 is a lot closer to 480p if you add in overscan.
muqali said:
536 is a lot closer to 480p if you add in overscan.
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I'd agree with you, if the some dozen or so files I have claiming 720p didn't fall into something real close to the 1280x536 range. Thinking it could just be the aspect ratio difference between 16:9 and 16:10 that would give us this--only speculating.
Actually I would absolutely love the ability to feed out 1080p out the hdmi port and leave the main display alone. Give us a portable media center device in the process.
That’s exactly the reason why I am still considering getting the SGS II instead of a HC tab.