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is possible to buy xoom in the Usa and use it in Italy

Hi, tomorrow I will be in NY for a couple of days and I want to buy a Motorola Xoom, is possible to use it outside of the Us? And if it's possible could I use my sim for the 3g connection?
Thanks you in advance for your kind reply

If you buy it here, you will only be able to use it with WiFi. It doesn't support 3G sim cards.

Sorry for the dumb question, it's a wifi only model the one sold in Usa?

mcreego said:
Sorry for the dumb question, it's a wifi only model the one sold in Usa?
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No, its Wi-Fi and 3G, but it is Verizon only which has the Verizon 3G "Sim Card" built in.

StuMcBill said:
No, its Wi-Fi and 3G, but it is Verizon only which has the Verizon 3G "Sim Card" built in.
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no theres no Verizon sim card in it. There is a placeholder for where the LTE sim card will go once the upgrade happens, however at the moment its just an embedded CDMA radio

chaoscentral said:
no theres no Verizon sim card in it. There is a placeholder for where the LTE sim card will go once the upgrade happens, however at the moment its just an embedded CDMA radio
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Ah sorry, we don't have CDMA in the UK, so I wasn't 100% sure about it!
Stew

I don't understand very well...It has a slot for SIM but only for Verizon's SIMs...?

No. It uses CDMA. No SIM card. CDMA is different from GSM and it doesn't exist in Europe.

Basically you can use it in Italy over wifi as your data connection.
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gimj01 said:
I don't understand very well...it has a slot for SIM but only for Verizon's SIMs?
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In the US there are basically 2 systems:
1- CDMA which is used by Verizon (xoom). There is not chip to be attached by the user. However the Xoom has an slot for the upgrade to 4g and that is the slot that you see in the tablet.
2- GMS used by other carriers and the standard in the EU.
You can use the xoom in Italy as a wifi only.

i want to change the system software in Italian of my xoom buyed in US on amazon...how can do it ?

Were the heck did this thread come from?? XDA members have people so afraid to start new threads this guy piggybacked this one.

WIFI oly Xoom HAS (!!!) a working Sim slot

If flashed with 3g rom Mobile Network Activation is available as an option. I've tried my 3G BB card, activation failed, but my sip was non working after, needed to reboot BB twice, to pick up a signal. So, from my humble observation everything is there, but disabled to compete with iPad2 in terms of price

iFixit! We need a wifi XOOM teardown.
XOOM'd from the XDA app.

3G ROM is CDMA, which doesn't use SIM cards (the Xoom 3G SIM is for the as-yet-uninstalled LTE radio), so I'm not quite sure this means anything (it was going to fail in any case).

does it mean the WIFI version in principle can still be upgraded to support LTE?

I've wondered about that, too. Seems to me that once the ROM post-upgrade gets leaked, then anyone who buys that LTE Mini-PCI card and is comptent with a Torx-5 bit should be able to subscribe to an LTE plan from VZ and get the SIM from them.

...O wait it says so in the title

You sure you aren't mistaking that for microSD?

I know right? it sounds pretty careless of them to leave it there, instead of going with a completely different motherboard.

I hardly beleive that any company will leave silicon/parts in a device to then sell it cheaper? It just doesn't make any sense, you don't see a Biturbo BMW with its biturbo disabled and then sold for less... just the turbo parts cost a lot why would they not charge you while you still receive the same? might as well give you a scooter for free don't you think.
Production is well cheaper nowdays that's why most companys can have 5 different revisions of the same device with different configurations, hence GSM, CDMA, wifi only, 16gb 32gb, etc. they save a lot more making what they need and not making a full device then criple it down to "cut cost" that's just illogical..

No, There are 2 slots under the cover...

My knowledge in this are is very limited, but during mobile network activation (the icon stated 3g), and after couple of attempts sim was locked (which is impossible if it was blank, leftover slot). But I might be totally wrong...

belozeroff said:
and after couple of attempts sim was locked (which is impossible if it was blank, leftover slot)
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The SIM-card reader is connected (most likely to a serial port on the Tegra chip). The actual LTE radio Mini-PCI card is not in there, however (we have to send it in for upgrade).
I'm surprised there's code that's actually touching the SIM, however- but one thing to consider is the QD6600 radio that's used for CDMA data can also do GSM/UMTS data as well (but needs a different modem SW and some different antenna-interface hardware).

The wifi zoom could potentially retain its 4g sim slot because it was paired with the flash memory slot. I would bet that it doesn't have the radio for cdma/GSM/lte/etc. It is highly unlikely due to the cost of just the multi-functional radio chips that power the slots ;-)
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The WIFI Xoom definitely has a SIM slot
And if you think that 800 price tag is for a radio chip you are mistaken. the whole 3g version doesn't cost $400 max.

Then whats it for if not a 3G radio?

The Wifi Xoom is not the same as the verizon one. I have already removed the back cover and its a different mainboard. All the 4g/3g stuff has been removed. Sorry guys..
James

cj10488 said:
The Wifi Xoom is not the same as the verizon one. I have already removed the back cover and its a different mainboard. All the 4g/3g stuff has been removed. Sorry guys..
James
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Does it still have a mini-pcie slot? Could you post a pic?

This has absolutely nothing to do with development. Please post in the correct section.

No it did not and no I didn't grab a pic. It's just bare magnesium where the pcie slot would be

Besides the lack of radio I'm sure there's a lack of required antennas for any cellular radio to work.

[Q] Qualcomm MDM6600, Motorola Xoom 3G (US) and GSM networks

Hi all,
As I was traveling to the US in the next weeks, I was planning the possibility of buying a xoom 3G there as it has not been launched yet in Europe. Then I just realized that the 3G version of the Motorola Xoom is in fact an CDMA only version.
However today I have seen in the iFixit that the Motorola Xoom has the Qualcomm MDM6600 radio chipset. This chipset, which supports HSPA+ (MDM6600 looks like a GSM/UMTS/HSPA+/EV-DO multi-mode processor), is the same as the world phone Motorola Droid Pro.
So, my question is:
- Could we have some hope the US version will allow us to connect to GSM versions in Europe anytime soon?
- Will be able to navigate through GLONASS navigation satellites?
Intriguing enough,
/À

No.
Plus it doesn't hurt to search. This has been touched on numerous time on here.

Thanks for the answer. Actually, I did some search on the forum, but still I fail to see whether the difference will be on the hardware or software, as the radio chipset looks capable.

Part of the issue is that the antennas are tuned for VZ's CDMA frequencies (and modulation, IIRC). It wouldn't work very well on say, 900MHz GSM.

Just because the chipset is capable of GSM theoretically doesn't mean it has the antennas or tuning or SIM slot to be compatible with GSM. The lack of a GSM SIM slot alone shoots down the proposition.

martonikaj said:
The lack of a GSM SIM slot alone shoots down the proposition.
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Actually, provided the existing SIM-card reader is wired to a serial port (as opposed to directly to the Mini-PCI port's pins) that part might actually work
(BTW, I will give my firstborn for the 3G-version's schematic. Hook me up, someone!)

kcrudup said:
Actually, provided the existing SIM-card reader is wired to a serial port (as opposed to directly to the Mini-PCI port's pins) that part might actually work
(BTW, I will give my firstborn for the 3G-version's schematic. Hook me up, someone!)
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From what I gather then LTE SIM and GSM SIM are different sizes.

martonikaj said:
From what I gather then LTE SIM and GSM SIM are different sizes.
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Just checked- same size. Dunno about connections though.

Why not just wait until April 19th and get the Euro 3G version from Carphone Warehouse? The US version, as standard, will not work in Europe.

1.) euopean software flashed on a vzw xoom
2.) gsm simcard detected and unlocked(pin)
3.) for some reason the rild is falling back to cdma even if it is configured for gsm
radio image?

US Xoom in Europe
Hi GhostOfTheNet,
Do you think If install the Stock MZ601_H.6.1-38-1_Retail_Europe.zip, would it work with the Xoom MZ600 instead of the existing Build HRI39?
If not, Please what have you done so far to get it work?
Thanks in advance.
EGMWEB

Will GPS work in EU
Hi,
this is probably a stupid question, but I'd just like a definitive confirmation on this - will I be able to use GPS from a US Motorola Xoom (MZ604) in Europe (specifically the UK)?
Thanks

egmweb said:
Hi GhostOfTheNet,
Do you think If install the Stock MZ601_H.6.1-38-1_Retail_Europe.zip, would it work with the Xoom MZ600 instead of the existing Build HRI39?
If not, Please what have you done so far to get it work?
Thanks in advance.
EGMWEB
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It wont work because the gsm radio image never gets flashed on to the xoom's baseband :/
I tried to do that to see if i could downgrade the radio but it dident work

3g/4g on Iconia A500??

Went to best buy yesterday, and noticed the slot where sdcard goes, there's another slot that has grey tape covering it. Perhaps a 3g/4g sim slot? Best Buy sales dude removed tape and it looks like it would fit a sim card. Hmm...

Don't do it! We seriously need a FAQ. Your sim card will fall in and you won't get it back unless you open the Iconia up. The Wifi model lacks the hardware to use a sim card.
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The sim card slot with dimension for stand SIM or Acer only release for unique network providers ? And SD card only format with FAT on A500 is that true? If yes what should we do with another format?

If you take the little sticker that covers the slot, it has the same icon as the SD card - an SD card shaped indention with an arrow pointing to the hole. Right below the slot, there is wording "sim card". Wonder why they didn't enable this?

Yes I find it out and on some forum fans say that it only empty hole SIM card slot but someone say that it not support by A500 but A501 another say kernel has 3G support but sim card slot on A500 was empty and does not work. Where to believable ?

On my A500 its written warranty void if sim card tape is broken.
Anyway anybody tried USB 3G modem dongle with Acer A500 ?

Have a look in the Development forum. There is a kernel module posted there to allow USB 3G dongles to be used. Root required and for advanced users only.
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This works for me
I know this won't help many, but,,, if you need/want 3G/4G, easiet way...
I use my rooted EVO with custom rom, and run wifi router ..
Eats battery tho.. get a backup.. would be nice to have an acer with it built in or an option.
The HTC View that Sprint is releasing with 4G did not impress me with the 7inch screen, but I already have EVO, and I don't have to worry about the 2gb data cap plan on a data device, whereas a rooted phone, no cap exists

USB 3G modem dongle with Acer A500 ?
yogb21 said:
On my A500 its written warranty void if sim card tape is broken.
Anyway anybody tried USB 3G modem dongle with Acer A500 ?
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Yeah a matter of fact they tried to sell me one when I got the A500, I have tried a few no problems.

Budadank said:
Have a look in the Development forum. There is a kernel module posted there to allow USB 3G dongles to be used. Root required and for advanced users only.
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not sure why it needs to be rooted to used 3g / 4g USB dongle. Mine worked natively (not rooted) ??

mrinternet said:
not sure why it needs to be rooted to used 3g / 4g USB dongle. Mine worked natively (not rooted) ??
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I have a 3G USB modem is Huawei E160, it's possible to install without rooted.
Please tel me how to do this.

mrinternet said:
not sure why it needs to be rooted to used 3g / 4g USB dongle. Mine worked natively (not rooted) ??
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so what 3g dongle did you use?

yes please share make and model of the dongle you used!!

gggggggggg

delete / close thread, :laugh:
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Yeah i use it fine in sweden.
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I can confim that the razr m is sim unlocked for international use out of the box no modification required. My sister uses one on koodo mobile (canadian service provider) with her koodo sim. When she comes back to the states she pops in the american sim it came with and uses on my verizon plan.
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xperiap said:
I wonder if I let the Razr M ship to Europe [where I live] and I use a Dutch sim, will it work? And I see there is 'verizon' printed on it. Does that mean its sim-locked?
Or should I better buy Razr i?? Europese version
I still dont know why Motorola integrated intel chip on EU version, alot apps are in-compatible And 0 roms
Also, do you think I should buy it? I am looking for the smallest <4.3'' phone...
Thnx guys!
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Hi, the Verizon Droid Razr M works fine here in Italy (after setting the APN). No sim lock, no need to root or workon it. By the way... I think it's one of the best sub 4.3" terminal at the moment: good hardware, long battery life, light and pocketable!

Hi,
my RAZR M works fine on O2 Germany, APN Settings required.

Sam_11 said:
Hi,
my RAZR M works fine on O2 Germany, APN Settings required.
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Guys, where do you bought it??
And if I buy from site as Ebay, why do these people always response late and is there a chance I get scammed?
Hey, u live in Germany, thats NEXT TO Holland, wanna sell it to me?

I just send one to (Germany Munich) works great on O2 and Tmobile DE
Its the time difference you guys are 7 hours ahead of us.
People tend to answer around 5-9pm US time which is after midnight ur time.
I been having great success getting them on ebay and Local craigslist.
Local so u can see the phone.
Ebay you have a buyer protection plan.
Though keep in mind it may take almost 1 month to arrive depending on shipping method and retarded customs.
Razr i or Razr M are ur choices.
Razr M 200-300 USD will cost you 175-250 EUro
Razr i is 300-500 Euro
So do your math what u want to do. It is a locked bootloader though on the M VZ the i Will be unlocked
Now the Galaxy S2 (i777) version is the one I bought for my GF sister.
Its a great phone but slower than the M. The Razr M also feels alot more premium compared to the cheap plastic feel.
I had both to play with, but the S2 has alot more custom rom stuff to play with.
You are able to damage the LCD of the S2 alot easier.
S2 has the ability to access the Battery the M does not.
The S2 chrome ring is prone to chip. The rear door feels flimsy
Oh and the S2 takes normal Mini Sim where the M takes Micro Sim.

Germanese said:
I been having great success getting them on ebay and Local craigslist.
Oh and the S2 takes normal Mini Sim where the M takes Micro Sim.
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Whats a local craigslist? [sorry my english is bad]
And is a micro sim more smaller than a mini sim [which iphone 4 uses]??
So, I have to cut my sim?
But is it really necessary to put that much efford just to buy a phone?
My last option would be the Galaxy s2 then

xperiap said:
Whats a local craigslist? [sorry my english is bad]
And is a micro sim more smaller than a mini sim [which iphone 4 uses]??
So, I have to cut my sim?
But is it really necessary to put that much efford just to buy a phone?
My last option would be the Galaxy s2 then
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In the US Australia and Some European Country.
There is something like a Local Posting called Craigslist, you can buy and sell stuff, like a garage sale online.
(Free for most parts) And since it's local you have to meet them up and buy it form them like at a garage sale.
Just make sure you have some one else with you and meet up at a save secure location and its fine.
Mini-Sim is what normal phones tend to use, which the Galaxy S2 uses.
Micro-Sim is the size like the iPhone 4 and 4S
Nano-Sim is what the iPhone 5 uses
-You have to either cut a mini sim to Micro but it wont work unless u good/precise at cutting since
it has to be perfect else the Click mechanism won't work. Or just get a 5-7 dollar Sim card clipper (Like a hole puncher) make sure its Mini to Micro (not Mini to Nano
No its not much efford, I am with T-Mobile they just give me a Micro sim for free since i am already a customer.
T-Mobile also has Nano Sims if i wanted to go with an iPhone 5 (No cutting just go store and ask)
O2 also has Mini Micro and Nano Sim but they charge 5 Dollars to swap you over unless something happened to ur Sim (Damaged)
Hardware wise i did not like the S2 especially the wierd US veriations.
I do like the i777 which is an US variation by AT&T but it is the closest to International S2 with out the Physical button.
Software wise that phone has tons of support hardware wise its basic.
Hope that helps.

These are the screens shots of XT907 in Germany on O2 using OEM Verizon Rom (No Modified Aussie Radio)
She gets Edge(2G) and HSPA(3.5G) sometimes 3G(3G)Roaming
Though her current area has a lot of interference with electronics.
So in Germany/Europe this phone can run pretty much at is Max on stock ROM, except no 4G and LTE since Europe use 3.5G i believe.
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Germanese said:
These are the screens shots of XT907 in Germany on O2 using OEM Verizon Rom (No Modified Aussie Radio)
She gets Edge(2G) and HSPA(3.5G) sometimes 3G(3G)Roaming
Though her current area has a lot of interference with electronics.
So in Germany/Europe this phone can run pretty much at is Max on stock ROM, except no 4G and LTE since Europe use 3.5G i believe.
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OMFG Iw ant it sooo bad! Dont you wanna get rid of it? Sell it to me, we live almost next each other!
Is there any safe way to get this phone??

xperiap said:
OMFG Iw ant it sooo bad! Dont you wanna get rid of it? Sell it to me, we live almost next each other!
Is there any safe way to get this phone??
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Anything can be done, its all-ways about the money. If you deal with Euro then getting one over to you should be easy.
But if you use Lira or similar currency it may be expensive due to up-conversion.
These phones aren't quite cheap, sure... not as expensive as the stinken GoldBar of an iPhone but not as cheap so u can get one ever week.
I am about send an i777 S2 to my gf next week which is for her sister.

Germanese said:
Anything can be done, its all-ways about the money. If you deal with Euro then getting one over to you should be easy.
But if you use Lira or similar currency it may be expensive due to up-conversion.
These phones aren't quite cheap, sure... not as expensive as the stinken GoldBar of an iPhone but not as cheap so u can get one ever week.
I am about send an i777 S2 to my gf next week which is for her sister.
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Read PM plz

Germanese said:
But if you use Lira or similar currency it may be expensive due to up-conversion.
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Lol man... we don't have liras in Italy anymore since 2001...
I know Italy is in pretty bad shape, but not that bad to have to go back to lira yet
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In Russia work well too, yeah

Razr M not working in India (yet)
Hi, so I got my Razr M delivered today here in India. But when I put in my local Vodafone GSM, it showed me a message saying "Your SIM card is from an unknown source." I pressed OK, but it shows the emergency calls only symbol. I tried changing the network mode from CDMA to GSM/UMTS. Didnt work. Then I manually searched for available networks, and tried connecting to them. But everytime I got the same message: "Your SIM card doesn't allow connection to this network".
Any ideas on what could be the problem?

Re: [Q] Razr m useable in Europe?
NG113 said:
Hi, so I got my Razr M delivered today here in India. But when I put in my local Vodafone GSM, it showed me a message saying "Your SIM card is from an unknown source." I pressed OK, but it shows the emergency calls only symbol. I tried changing the network mode from CDMA to GSM/UMTS. Didnt work. Then I manually searched for available networks, and tried connecting to them. But everytime I got the same message: "Your SIM card doesn't allow connection to this network".
Any ideas on what could be the problem?
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Should have gotten a Razr M... Not a droid Razr M. Or an electrify.
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NG113 said:
Hi, so I got my Razr M delivered today here in India. But when I put in my local Vodafone GSM, it showed me a message saying "Your SIM card is from an unknown source." I pressed OK, but it shows the emergency calls only symbol. I tried changing the network mode from CDMA to GSM/UMTS. Didnt work. Then I manually searched for available networks, and tried connecting to them. But everytime I got the same message: "Your SIM card doesn't allow connection to this network".
Any ideas on what could be the problem?
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Did you find the solution?

Make sure you fresh ICS or JB firmware loaded.
And that it is not a modded Firmware.
Start with that. If that will not work you have 2 choices.
VZ Firmware with Aus Radio
VZ Firmware with 01 mod
Unless India is on the black list of the phone also which it should not be, u shouldn't have a problem.
My old boss just went back to Dubai with his and had no issues using his phone with local Sims.

Yeah it happens . I will soon post a list of things i have tried , this has something to do with actiavtion of verizon phones in the US and then using it abroad
VZ Firmware with Aus Radio --tried
VZ Firmware with 01 mod --tried