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HD2 + Desire Comparisons

Hello
I have a simple choice to make, whether to go with the HTC HD2 (and Windows 6.5), which will entail leaving Orange and not getting any upgrade offers, or to go with the Desire and Android.
I currently have a Diamond and have never, truly, had a problem with it that is down to the operating system. The reason its now dog slow is something to do with the amount of times ive dropped it from circa 4 feet. Its also scratched to buggery. I do like a lot of features of Windows 6.5 though, and im therefore a little reluctant to jump over to Android for a faster OS when i will sudddenly not be able to do some things i do now.
The first one that springs to mind is the contact list, where i can simply type a few numbers, or letters of someones name (first name or last name or last 3 letters of name, etc) and get given the number i want. Does Android do this? (I assume this is an OS thing, as my previous windows phones have all done this, though no other non windows phone ive used has!)
Otherwise, in terms of applications, will they run on Android if they run on Windwows, i suspect not. Or is it a case that some might but some wont? Is it a completely different setup? I have TomTom which runs like a gem through windows, will this work with android? I guess this is a usual question, im not buying TomTom again just to have it on my new device!
Final thing, what is battery life like on each, is one much better than others, particularly when using applications and, in particular, GPS?
Any sensible discussion is appreciated. No 'Desire is better' etc comments without a comparison/reason please.
Thanks in advance!
Steve

HD2 > Desire
not only the OS, but I simply love the hardware much better too.

With Android you get the promise of frequent(ish if you think of the hero) updates to your OS. Yeah you get less useability but you can still root your phone if you need to.
Winmo is still good and the HD2's screen is a thing to behold. Honestly, best bet is to try the phones yourself in a store.

I have both. HD2 and Desire.
Desire: Awsome! Poor battery, need to recharge 2-3 times at one day! Low volume! Poor music player! If you get a SMS from a service like 1999 it randomly finds a contacts and says for example that the SMS is from Mark (a random contact). VERY slow charcing! Android, very userfriendly! Awsome FaceBook app! Can only synch my Gmail!!! AMOLED screen!
Leo: Awsome fast charcing! Good batterylife! SRS WOWHD v1.5.1.0 = Awsome music quality! Need to be restarted every day, more then one time each day! Awsome screen! SMS deliver problem! Keyboard lag! I can synch my Hotmail, contacts etc! Costumizable! Better flash.
I'm currently using both, Leo for music and Desire as my main phone. And my Sony Ericsson watch is connect with my Desire...

I have just brought a desire for my daughter and have been comparing the two phones.1st of all I love my hd2, so i thought it would be very one sided and it was.
The desire is just so much better.The hd2 is without doubt the best looking hardware with the nicest screen in the world (IMHO) but the android software is so much easier and rewarding to use. The hd2 suits me fine because when im working nightshift and I have 10 hours to kill doing nothing, Im busy messy around with my phone getting this to work or that to work but I dont think thats for everyone.
The way I see it is you have the IPhone that everything works and is so easy a baby could use it but for that reason its locked down in every way that you cant do anything to modify it or personalise it.
You have the HD2 which seems totally open but you have to get your hands dirty to make everything work or to make it work faster or less buggy.
The Desire sits right in the middle and takes the best of both. Everything works very easily and SUPER QUICK, you have your millions of unnecessary apps, its not locked down like the IPhone and even more customisable than the hd2. You also have the fact that android will keep being developed and WM wont.
Sorry for the long post but seeing as im doing exactly what the post was talking about i had a lot on my mind.
RReckless
PS my HD2 is still the prettiest of them all

HD2
get the HD2. i take it with your diamond your used to hard spl if so the HD2 is no different.
put a good custom ROM on ie xtreame 6.5 rom and you will not have any problems
as for syncing mail, i use my google mail account for exchange with contacts etc, and hotmail for emails as well both work flawlessly and have no sms problems
bottom line, if you don't mind putting a custom rom on your phone get the HD2
otherwise the desire is your best bet

1. Desire is from HTC so it has the function press some letter then the contact pop up like u want.
2. I can say apps on Desire have more fun to use, but not so convenient for some basic function, e.g: HD2 have TCPMP, Core Player to play video that u dont have to spent hour to convert. Mobipocket reader to read prc. Office mobile is so convenient.
You will feel it's really fun with apps at first, but when u try everything that are recommended, you will just need the basic things which HD2 is better
3. I dont have a Desire, but based on reviews, battery life seem to be worse than HD2.
4. Desire can be rooted but u cannot do much thing with it like with HD2, and you will feel bored very soon in terms of customizing ur screen

i want the live wallpapers on my hd2 >.> xd

My Pennies worth...
I had both the Desire and HD2 for a week to compare..
Yes you do need to tweak the HD2 more (but that's part of the fun and being in the xda community)... and android is being developed for much quicker than anything else but I choose the HD2 for the following reasons..
1.The Camera is much better on the HD2 even though they are both 5 megapixel shooters, the HD2 was better in all conditions (low light etc)
2.There's no decent video player for android yet (compared to coreplayer, although I believe they're working on an android version)
3. I stream a lot of TV/Music and the beebplayer program is rubbish compared to myPlayer on winmo - having said that the LastFM widget for Android is really good.
4. The Screen is better IMHO on the HD2 in both size and quality
5. FPSEce is only available on winmo and is totally brilliant.
6. I've gambled on the fact that the HD2 may get an android port or windows 7 port by the talented devs on this site, and therefore give me the best of all worlds on a really powerful device.
The only thing i miss from Android at the moment is the live wallpapers... very cool

Some good posts, here, thanks a lot.
Re: Android ports for the HD2, ive heard this mentioned a lot. I know a bit about roms and things (I have duttythroys rom on the Diamond), but im not too sure about the OS. Is it feasible that HTC (or someone else) release a rom or something that would put Android onto the HD2? Is Windows 7 also a possibility? Obviously you can do it with a PC, jump from say XP to Windows 7, is the same move just as easy on a mobile device or does it require radical jiggerypokery?
Re: all the messages about looks, i have to be honest, i agree

LessThanSte said:
Some good posts, here, thanks a lot.
Re: Android ports for the HD2, ive heard this mentioned a lot. I know a bit about roms and things (I have duttythroys rom on the Diamond), but im not too sure about the OS. Is it feasible that HTC (or someone else) release a rom or something that would put Android onto the HD2? Is Windows 7 also a possibility? Obviously you can do it with a PC, jump from say XP to Windows 7, is the same move just as easy on a mobile device or does it require radical jiggerypokery?
Re: all the messages about looks, i have to be honest, i agree
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No way HTC will do that, just a dream

LessThanSte said:
Some good posts, here, thanks a lot.
Re: Android ports for the HD2, ive heard this mentioned a lot. I know a bit about roms and things (I have duttythroys rom on the Diamond), but im not too sure about the OS. Is it feasible that HTC (or someone else) release a rom or something that would put Android onto the HD2? Is Windows 7 also a possibility? Obviously you can do it with a PC, jump from say XP to Windows 7, is the same move just as easy on a mobile device or does it require radical jiggerypokery?
Re: all the messages about looks, i have to be honest, i agree
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mmh, microsoft said there will be NO upgrade to wm7.. but a port is possible, it did even succeed already to port wm7 to the hd2, its just buggy, and buggy means useless..
HTC will never make an android hd2 rom.. that would be really really really amazing if they would do that, but this are some crazy wishes xD
but yea, other HTC winmo phones got ports for android... even dualboot winmo/android. i would love that on the hd2 >=)

So i guess the point is that it *could* happen, even though it may not be official (as far as HTC are concerned?)

Just went to a mobile shop today and played with Desire for a while. IMO, I can conclude that the Desire with Android 2.1 is not interesting as it is advertised. Web browser is a very little faster, phone still laggy sometimes, not anything more special then 1.5 in terms of looks, customization. I still feel bored quite quickly

Since Multitasking is the thing android boasts, why does it suck so badly?

Why couldn't it be more like the Palm Pre? I mean even my jailbroken iphone could pull off some multitasking that looked damn close to the pre.
I think the biggest thing I hear about android is it's got real multitasking (which works and I love), but I don't see why they couldn't make it better, or at least better looking. It's based on linux and there are some pretty snazzy graphics out there for that.

Personally, having used the jailbroken multitasking solutions on previous iPhones I didn't find them that great or graceful. The Palm Pre is still the king of multitasking hands down.
Android is working on it. Gingerbread will bring an improved UI with more flashy animations/graphics. For now, holding down the Home button is an acceptable method.

sfox8 said:
Personally, having used the jailbroken multitasking solutions on previous iPhones I didn't find them that great or graceful. The Palm Pre is still the king of multitasking hands down.
Android is working on it. Gingerbread will bring an improved UI with more flashy animations/graphics. For now, holding down the Home button is an acceptable method.
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I found one or two apps for my old iphone that looked damn close to the pre, and worked pretty damn good on my 3g.
I know 3.0 is going to be a UI revamp, but who knows if the evo will ever get it. ;(

Hrshycro said:
I found one or two apps for my old iphone that looked damn close to the pre, and worked pretty damn good on my 3g.
I know 3.0 is going to be a UI revamp, but who knows if the evo will ever get it. ;(
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If you haven't already, purchase Powerstrip. It's one of the most useful Android apps ever.

Mecha2142 said:
If you haven't already, purchase Powerstrip. It's one of the most useful Android apps ever.
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sidenote, i dunno if i'm just retarded or what, but i installed power strip and i am unable to get the shortcut to work. i have it set to a double tap of the home screen. nothing happens when i do this. what am i missing??

I think you're supposed to double click the home button

Hrshycro said:
Why couldn't it be more like the Palm Pre? I mean even my jailbroken iphone could pull off some multitasking that looked damn close to the pre.
I think the biggest thing I hear about android is it's got real multitasking (which works and I love), but I don't see why they couldn't make it better, or at least better looking. It's based on linux and there are some pretty snazzy graphics out there for that.
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What's wrong with Android multitasking?

acrh2 said:
What's wrong with Android multitasking?
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^ this
I don't get it, OP

PLESTIUC said:
^ this
I don't get it, OP
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neither do i. i would like a explanation what the evo is not doing.
you compare the pre to be the king of multitasking? windows mobile (touch pro2 which is with me daily in addition to my evo) multitasks beautifully and so does android in my experience with android (hero from launch day and win mo since 2002). just the other day i was on a call , was updating some apps and using tapatalk on a forum. i even had lookout scanning the apps as they were installing.... (4G area). phone did not hiccup... stock non rooted. thats multitasking to me...

I use MultiTask Manager, and it's totally configurable and display the following:
- Running Apps
- Recently closed apps
- Fav Apps
Also you can hide apps that you don't want to see, max number of apps, background and much more.
I have the icon on my main screen
Is free.

PLESTIUC said:
^ this
I don't get it, OP
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It sounds to me like the op is only concerned with how asthetically pleasing multitasking is. The fact that android doesn't have the pretty cards animation that the webos and jailbroken iPhones have means it sucks. That seams silly to me. Wanting nicer animations is fine, but saying that multitasking sucks because of the lack of these animations is silly.

k2snowboards88 said:
It sounds to me like the op is only concerned with how asthetically pleasing multitasking is. The fact that android doesn't have the pretty cards animation that the webos and jailbroken iPhones have means it sucks. That seams silly to me. Wanting nicer animations is fine, but saying that multitasking sucks because of the lack of these animations is silly.
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If that is the case, then the OP doesn't understand the design philosophy behind Android multitasking.
1) All apps are loaded into memory from the get go.
2) Task managers are unnecessary, just pick whatever app you want to switch to, and start it to switch to it. Hence the last 6 used apps menu when holding down the home key.
In a sense, Android multitasking is intended to be superior to any other implementation - there's no need to be even thinking about it. It just does its thing.

I like multitasking on Android way better than the Pre. First off it works without me having to worry about what's open, second I never get an error telling me to close apps even though no cards are open. Third it just works on Android. palms system is nowhere near stable yet, and backgrounder on iPad has closed apps so often that multitasking was bad.
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I as well fail to see a problem with Android's multitasking abilities.

same....OP please elaborate.

I understand what the OP means... I have BOTH and the Pre DOES BEAT Android in multitasking capabilities.... I'll give u an example
On my Evo, I use Tweetcaster a lot...let's say I need to open up ZumoDrive and share something... I hit home, then open programs then open up ZumoDrive... If I wanna go back to where I was prior (Tweetcaster, looking at a persons profile), I hold the home button...and select Tweetcaster from the recently used apps, and it reopens the app from scratch, forgetting about where I was previously. That's just 1 example (that I happened to think of right now, but there's others) Another would be, try downloading a mp3 from the web browser and playing it...then switch apps... The song stops (unless u play it from the music player)
And the problem with the jab at WebOS saying well, you don't get too many cards errors in Android; well wouldn't exist b/c well for 1, the Evo has a 1GHZ processor and 512MB Ram... Compared to my original Pre (non plus) with much slower CPU; that's a no brainer that the Evo would be able to handle the tasks more effectively, (yet the GPU performance on the Pre is better, go figure)
But, it does sound like the OP was referring more to the way it looks... while, I don't care what it looks like... I just want it to work better.

steb0ne said:
I understand what the OP means... I have BOTH and the Pre DOES BEAT Android in multitasking capabilities.... I'll give u an example
On my Evo, I use Tweetcaster a lot...let's say I need to open up ZumoDrive and share something... I hit home, then open programs then open up ZumoDrive... If I wanna go back to where I was prior (Tweetcaster, looking at a persons profile), I hold the home button...and select Tweetcaster from the recently used apps, and it reopens the app from scratch, forgetting about where I was previously. That's just 1 example (that I happened to think of right now, but there's others) Another would be, try downloading a mp3 from the web browser and playing it...then switch apps... The song stops (unless u play it from the music player)
And the problem with the jab at WebOS saying well, you don't get too many cards errors in Android; well wouldn't exist b/c well for 1, the Evo has a 1GHZ processor and 512MB Ram... Compared to my original Pre (non plus) with much slower CPU; that's a no brainer that the Evo would be able to handle the tasks more effectively, (yet the GPU performance on the Pre is better, go figure)
But, it does sound like the OP was referring more to the way it looks... while, I don't care what it looks like... I just want it to work better.
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I agree with the mp3 thing. It's annoying. I think there must be better mp3 players out there.

Try Quickdesk. You won't be disappointed.

Yeah I've experienced that problem with the mp3 player. I've noticed it varies from App to app. The standard music app will stop sometimes, as does Xiialive - but Last.fm app seems to be extremely stable - never had it stop regardless of what I was doing. I don't think there's anything wrong with holding the home button - it works nicely but I am more concerned about how programs function while in the background. As I mentioned it seems to vary from program to program, and the are said to be revamping the standard music program, so I guess we can keep our fingers crossed.
I doubt it will be much work to fix but I agree, they need to step it up a notch in this respect.

steb0ne said:
I understand what the OP means... I have BOTH and the Pre DOES BEAT Android in multitasking capabilities.... I'll give u an example
On my Evo, I use Tweetcaster a lot...let's say I need to open up ZumoDrive and share something... I hit home, then open programs then open up ZumoDrive... If I wanna go back to where I was prior (Tweetcaster, looking at a persons profile), I hold the home button...and select Tweetcaster from the recently used apps, and it reopens the app from scratch, forgetting about where I was previously.
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But that isn't a good example because that isn't what should happen with the current paradigm. I've left countless programs and come back to exactly the same spot when I return. Something else is going on there. How many programs are you using in between these two? Are you waiting a bunch of time? Maybe Android closes out programs after a certain period of inactivity.
steb0ne said:
That's just 1 example (that I happened to think of right now, but there's others) Another would be, try downloading a mp3 from the web browser and playing it...then switch apps... The song stops (unless u play it from the music player)
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This one confuses me. I can play music with something other than the music player and switch apps without the music stopping no problem.
If I were to offer one easy change to the current UI, it would be to put a little circle or star on the icons next to the programs that are still processing in the recent apps list. That's the only issue I can see. I can't tell which ones on that list are closed and which ones are still open.

installed FroyoStone Series and finally able to use the phone

so after about a week of fooking around with winmo i almost put it back up for sale on craigslist to send it back where it came from.
could not deal with this sht anymore( freezing,overheating, battery drain in standby, sms lagging, alarm not working and tonns more annoying issues)
2 different roms( i wanted to keep stock look and features, since most of cooked roms come with their own theme)
flashed chunky rom (lite version) with 12.50 radio havent tested it alone
then loaded up FroyoStone Series - Version 1 (07-Aug-2010) android rom
loaded jmz android dual boot app.
and so far it feels like im using a totally different phone.
one thing i regret is not doing it earlier.
everything seems to be working great,i definitely am able to use this phone more than i ever did with windows loaded on it.
loaded bunch of apps to see and they all work with no problems. even when an app gives an error it is eliminated with quickness.
everything is fast
android market is ridiculous packed with all kinds of sht(how fast it filled up with apps is insane)
alot of free ones to choose from
oh and almost forgot, the apps work without crashing the system.
i ve been on this phone for last 2 hours trying to figure out the android interface and its not even warm to touch as opposed to windows even in standby its very hot.
very sad that even in its early stage its much more usable than original OS
is there a WINMO HATER thread on xda btw?
beeing a new android user there are few things i have question about.
1 is there an X button to shut down apps like windows?
because most of the apps dont even have X button in app menu.
2 why does it try to crop the wallpaper even when its exact size to fit the screen?
3 Green LED blinks, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE. This is a diagnostic feature to see if the phone has crashed or not.
mine is not on( it was on for a while) but its still functioning, is it supposed to blink when crashed or when working normally?
4 images in general seem to be reendered with much less quality than on windows boot.
theres also an option to install it with sense, is sense responsible for processing those highrez images or is it winmo?
5 i installed the SD card auto mount app. os that good or bad app to have?
would that interfere with anything?

why don't you sell the phone on craigslist and go buy you a samsung galaxy s?

why dont you buy one for me then.
i can sell the HD2 to you if u like. so you can have a backup...
HATER still defending the crippled OS abandoned by microsoft.
if it wasnt for XDA and few other forums winmo would fall on its face long time ago.
microsoft should thank you guys for keeping their name in mobile business, because without tweakers there would be no one to use it.
galaxy screen is smaller btw and its a samsung and it doesnt have flash and its piano finish and it resembles iphone
i would go for amoled screen tho that thing is super crispy...
see now i forgot what i was gonna ask because of you.

There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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Psygnosis84 said:
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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Totally agree with you....winmo is the best os only if one knows how to use it properly.
Yea its not so user friendly but if you want to modify an os winmo would be on the top of the list!
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Psygnosis84 said:
There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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/agreed.... man the number 'these' kinda threads are increasing at an alarming rate.

fuzzysig said:
1 is there an X button to shut down apps like windows?
because most of the apps dont even have X button in app menu.
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First, X'ing out of a program in WM does not shut it down...it keeps running in the background. Some programs have built in shut down options, but most of the time you have to use a task manager.
Likewise, in Android, as far as I know, pressing the home key lets you exit a app but it keep running in the background unless you shut it down with an app killer. Some apps have built-in shutdown options.

Ok guys lets not turn this into a my OS is better then yours is thread. Both of them have their pluses and negs, while I use use WM for everything work related I also use Android for messing around and games so to me each has its place.

Why is this thread even here this should be in general questions...
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It is here because we do not have an android general forum set up yet, But the great joshkoss has been working on trying to get it set up.

alarming is the fact that winmo is installed onto consumer phones that are meant for general public
not everyone wants to learn how to edit their registry to make a feature work
some people actually want to use the phone once in a while u know...
but in windows you can enable a program to be terminated by holding the x button

fuzzysig said:
alarming is the fact that winmo is installed onto consumer phones that are meant for general public
not everyone wants to learn how to edit their registry to make a feature work
some people actually want to use the phone once in a while u know...
but in windows you can enable a program to be terminated by holding the x button
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I agree with you to a degree. Winmo is better for users that know (and enjoy) how to tweak their devices (which usually isnt the average user) however it is still perfectly usable with no tweaks applied (albeit not as good as when they are). You are exagerating when you say that the phone is unuseable without tweaks because i used mine for a few weeks with no tweaks whatsoever and i am sure many others here did too and the phone was fully functional. Just because you prefer android to winmo dosent make it any better (for the record i prefer android too)
For the answer to youe x button question see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755504

I was never an android fan. I never used Android until yesterday. Nd even with this beta build is more stable and easier to use than winmo. First time sinnce I got this phone I didnt have to soft reset the phone for almost a day.

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There's nothing crippled about winmo, only the lack of intelligence by the user to actually use it properly.
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hardik119 said:
Totally agree with you....winmo is the best os only if one knows how to use it properly.
Yea its not so user friendly but if you want to modify an os winmo would be on the top of the list!
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Not to sound funny but the 2 above posts are stating winmo is so good, yet your replies are sent from android ports??

So I've used winmo for a bit, and when I do finally (hopefully) flash android onto my phones nand, I don't even want to loose winmo, I really would like to keep winmo as well because it is a decent OS, not as terrible as many make it sound, it is usable for sure.
However, lets not kid ourselves, it's no match for android. Winmo is an aging OS, and it makes that obvious. Android just feels so seamless and so optimized for mobile devices.

kinda what i was trying to say but with many more words
anyone still use DOS?
but i was hoping to get more answers related to android questions i had and not to bring about another thread with winmo vs android.
theres no doubt android is better suited for mobile, although windows has the ability to copy delete and do many more low level operations from the phone, thats why im thinking abotu keeping this phone as well and hope that we can make a true dual boot phone so i can run a clean android boot and clean winmo boot.

WP7 is better than I expected.

Just tried the XBmod of WP7.
WP7 is much better than I expected microsoft did a good job this time around. Albeit I'm much to used to android to keep it on my HD2 but come upgrade time I may just get a Wp7 device.

keep your hd2, a handset cldnt get better than this, wp7 and android running along and that too with quite stability
dont forget to appreciate the developers whenever u can

why better? give some examples... I'm just thinking about change into wp7...

gileneusz said:
why better? give some examples... I'm just thinking about change into wp7...
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not better than say android... But a surprising treat...
I don't know what to day about it.
The ui is just fun to use. The XBmod I used ran smooth as silk (similar to iphone smoothness). I like the messaging app. I didn't call microsoft for an activation code so I didn't get to try all the other great features although I'm sure it would have been worth the hassle
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pappasmurfsharem said:
not better than say android... But a surprising treat...
I don't know what to day about it.
The ui is just fun to use. The XBmod I used ran smooth as silk (similar to iphone smoothness). I like the messaging app. I didn't call microsoft for an activation code so I didn't get to try all the other great features although I'm sure it would have been worth the hassle
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Surprising, indeed. I used WP7 for a couple of months, everything fine. However, I missed the tweaking and modding - but I don´t like Android either. So I´m back to Windows Mobile/Sense...
WP7, imho, is far better than most reviews. Its completely new approach has its advantages; it´s fast and smooth.
At the end, it´s maybe a little too "simple" in the design. I think many people like all those fancy little icons on their smartphones, especially iOS users.
Oh, before I forget: One of the functions of WP7 is the integrated voice recognition/control. It works far better than anything else I ever tried before.

tictac0566 said:
Surprising, indeed. I used WP7 for a couple of months, everything fine. However, I missed the tweaking and modding - but I don´t like Android either. So I´m back to Windows Mobile/Sense...
WP7, imho, is far better than most reviews. Its completely new approach has its advantages; it´s fast and smooth.
At the end, it´s maybe a little too "simple" in the design. I think many people like all those fancy little icons on their smartphones, especially iOS users.
Oh, before I forget: One of the functions of WP7 is the integrated voice recognition/control. It works far better than anything else I ever tried before.
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How was your battery life? I only flashed out for a few minutes, but it seem like it wasn't charging
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pappasmurfsharem said:
not better than say android... But a surprising treat...
I don't know what to day about it.
The ui is just fun to use. The XBmod I used ran smooth as silk (similar to iphone smoothness). I like the messaging app. I didn't call microsoft for an activation code so I didn't get to try all the other great features although I'm sure it would have been worth the hassle
Sent from my HD2 running NexusHD2 2.3.4 via Tapatalk
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Agree about the UI being fun to use. Very user friendly and fast fast fast. I did activate live services and while the app selection is not that great at the moment, the marketplace is very nice although a little convoluted when looking for apps. I'm currently dual booting Xbmod's build (v.1.11) and AmeriCanAndroid (which I usually use) but I'm holding out for the Mango update and hopefully that'll bring on some cool new apps and features so I can switch between the two without losing data. My biggest gripe is lack of apps. If I could somehow integrate my texts/call log between the two OSs, It would be a tough choice which one to run more.
I am a former iPhone user (2G one only) and I gotta say I thought I would miss it, but my HD2 is miles and miles better

soapbox23 said:
Agree about the UI being fun to use. Very user friendly and fast fast fast. I did activate live services and while the app selection is not that great at the moment, the marketplace is very nice although a little convoluted when looking for apps. I'm currently dual booting Xbmod's build (v.1.11) and AmeriCanAndroid (which I usually use) but I'm holding out for the Mango update and hopefully that'll bring on some cool new apps and features so I can switch between the two without losing data. My biggest gripe is lack of apps. If I could somehow integrate my texts/call log between the two OSs, It would be a tough choice which one to run more.
I am a former iPhone user (2G one only) and I gotta say I thought I would miss it, but my HD2 is miles and miles better
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How are you dual booting? Does haret run on wp7?
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pappasmurfsharem said:
How was your battery life? I only flashed out for a few minutes, but it seem like it wasn't charging
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does your led has an alternating sequence of red and green when plugged in??
if yes: then check the temperature of the phone,if its high,wait for it to cool down and then plug it in again(try switchin it off for cooling it down)
red green sequence means ur phone has overheated(yes its a bug) and as a risk of damage to battery, wp7 refuses to recharge it
(thanks to the developers )
hope i helped ya

pretlord said:
does your led has an alternating sequence of red and green when plugged in??
if yes: then check the temperature of the phone,if its high,wait for it to cool down and then plug it in again(try switchin it off for cooling it down)
red green sequence means ur phone has overheated(yes its a bug) and as a risk of damage to battery, wp7 refuses to recharge it
(thanks to the developers )
hope i helped ya
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What keeps that from happening?
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However, I missed the tweaking and modding
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I don't miss the tweaking and modding....and it's for a reason. With android i was constantly occupied with modding. With WP7 you can't tweak.....but you don't need to either. The UI works perfectly to begin with. The UI is designed to access basic functionality fast....phone, mail and messaging. Off course not everything is good, for example....i miss vibration feedback from the keyboard. The keyboard could have been larger as well.
WP7 doesn't have as many apps as android...but i only use flickr, facebook and twitter so i don't care.
If you're not changing to WP7 now....i would definitely give it a try as soon as mango is launched.

I agree. I was one of the loudest when it came to trashing WP7, when I hadn't even tried it, lol! Now I wouldn't use any other OS. Will definitely be getting a native WP7 come upgrade time. It's such an easy, smooth, & very reliable OS.

pappasmurfsharem said:
What keeps that from happening?
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well there are two things you can do:
1.charge ONLY when its not hot,and try to remove and plug in the charger again.see if the continuous red light comes on(that means it charging,till its heat up again)
2.dual boot android and wp7 and charge in the android mode(its the best)
try Yuki's ROM,it heats up the least for me

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How are you dual booting? Does haret run on wp7?
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No, haret doesn't run on WP7. You use MAGLDR to launch either. Follow this thread EXACTLY. When I say exactly, do not deviate one step. I did and it caused me hours of frustration:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944288
You're going to have to switch to an SD rom of Android though, unless you use Portadroid to run your NexusHD2 ROM (but as far as I know, I think some of the NANDroid ROMs are a bit unstable using portadroid)

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I don't miss the tweaking and modding....and it's for a reason. With android i was constantly occupied with modding. With WP7 you can't tweak.....but you don't need to either. The UI works perfectly to begin with. The UI is designed to access basic functionality fast....phone, mail and messaging. Off course not everything is good, for example....i miss vibration feedback from the keyboard. The keyboard could have been larger as well.
WP7 doesn't have as many apps as android...but i only use flickr, facebook and twitter so i don't care.
If you're not changing to WP7 now....i would definitely give it a try as soon as mango is launched.
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Same for me, need something solid for work and WP& is it. Running 3 echange accounts and a hotmail no prob, and stability probs and need for any mods, just works. Just what i need.

Agree with OP. I was feeling resigned to having winmo 6.5 for another 6 months; now after installing win7 it feels I have a brand new phone! XD

WP7 is a nice system. But navigation systems for winmo and android is better.

DufeRob said:
WP7 is a nice system. But navigation systems for winmo and android is better.
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not heard of gMaps?

HTC Desire HD compared to HTC One X [both on android 4.0 and Sense 4]

Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah

I started watching this video and then he started talking. Clothes instantly came off.
Benicio del Toro??????
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Great video! What ROM are you using?
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Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.

This video actually doesn't prove a thing. You usually don't see much of a difference unless you did something more resource heavy than what I saw him do in the video.

Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone

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Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
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It's using Primo s v3.5 as you can see when he gos to the software version

Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.

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Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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1- little difference.
2- nothing is perfect, even htc's last oficial rom was buggy
3- of course there are glitches, devs here are either porting from other phones or building from ground up and doing a hell of a good job.
4- and yeah, I do agree with your initial statement - but that is not the issue as stated beforehand.
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Don't get me wrong, I also think we should get ICS or even JB. I believe that it would run like hell on our DHDs. I'm only saying that you can't compare those two phones barely on such mundane tasks like opening an sms app or launching facebook. The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
Try running these two through a benchmark or measure the framerate on some gameloft games (Asphalt, GT Motor Academy etc.) the difference will be huge.
Quite frankly, to me the only viable reason for us is the fact that HTC One V (or One S) is actually the same phone as our DHD but with ****ty camera, and that thing is getting ICS. So if the same hardware with worse camera can operate sufficiently under ICS why can't the DHD. It obviously is a scam on us customers to make us leave the great device that we have and go spend our money on some new HTC phone. If you ask me that whole thing with ICS helped me with a decision, I know now that my next phone will not be HTC, probably SGS III or Note 2, at least they get support.

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The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
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Yes, but both devices use same software so its only the matter of hardware (and cpu scheduler) how fast they unlock But yea, it clearly did not proove anything besides that Desire HD can run Ice Cream Sandwich like big phones can. I think that was the point?

Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.

haerigrek said:
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Comparing windows to android is like comparing a toyota to a benz.
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The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.

haerigrek said:
The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
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I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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Teichopsia said:
I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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You are correct. Because every update does not make the system resource heavy, but its optimized so it runs smoother and buttery good, like jelly bean. Its not like windows - they are heavier and heavier because they want people to buy new computers. Remember - windows has 85% sales when people buy windows preinstalled on computers. You cant compare it with android or cars (cars and engine - you are talking hardware here, we are all about software)

miHah said:
Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.

HTC should learn something from this.. The developers in XDA can do this so why cant the engineers at HTC??
They should hire their developers from XDA

AnumEndzeit said:
I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
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In video it was pointed out that all setting on both phones are the same, so its all matter of harware how the phones perform.

ErnestoD said:
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
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We all know HTC i not being sincere by saying we wont have a nice experience on ICS... Its just some marketing decisions.. Stupid company..