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Choices, choices

Hi guys. First off; I'm getting a new phone next month and I'm looking to get a wp7 device, but which one?
I've narrowed down two options:
- Htc hd7, £30 p/m 500mb data, unlimited sms and 300mins (Orange network)
- Samsung omnia 7, £30 p/m 1gb data, 5000 sms, 500mins, free Skype calls (Three network)
I know it may seem the omnia is a much better deal, but the screen size and HTC hub are very attractive. So, could owners of both give me some ideas as to which I should take the plunge for?
Thanks in advance.
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I was using HTC hero with Orange but the reception for me is really bad (east London).....i can never talk more than 1 minute in my own home.
I recently bought the omnia 7 with T-mobile £35 per month 900 Min and 500 txt including
a flexible booster....i can now talk with ease in my own home.
The Omnia 7 is just beautiful compared to the HTC HD7 beacuse of the SUPER AMOLED screen.....but unfortunately Omnia 7 is only 8 gb but HTC HD7 is 16 gig
I'd go for quality....

I recently got the Onmia 7... very very very nice handset, its very quick it looks stunning and thank god isnt made by HTC.
The memory on the omnia is built into the phone with chips and not Micro SD, this has its pros and cons.
The pros are its very fast, games loader quicker..there are vids on youtube to show this.
The cons - cant upgrade size
The screen is really something to see, its Beautiful
HTC seem to be putting more effort into their android phones than the WP7, which is fair enough its a new product and possibly they dont believe it will sell much, android on the other is has a waiting list on the Desire of 6000 on Orange Uk network, so thats defo a seller they will back.
Ive had a few HTC devices over the last few years and they always seem to come short of being what you want (my personal opinon).
Also the camera on the Onmia is a 5MP and isnt the best but is ok as a happy snapper.. good when you need a quick pic. That being said I think the only handset that has a better one is the HTC Mozart with 8MP.. but if you want something that takes Professional Pics go buy a proper camera from Nikon or Olympus.
Hope this helps

I've had a play with the Omnia 7, and it's a good phone no doubt - the screen really pops, but I actually prefer the LCD on the HD7 for day to day - the Omnia is not realistic and too saturated.
The HD7 has a bigger screen, which if you use it for browsing etc is a big advantage. I found myself reconfiguring my router the other night using the wife's HD7 because she was using the laptop, and it was bloody brilliant I have to say - so easy to do, and definitely feel the extra screen size plays a big part here.
The HD7 is very well made - I've seen some reports to the contrary on here, but I can only imagine people have had bad luck because I can't fault the quality on the HD7.
There are early glitches with it - there always well be, but I'm sure there are with the Sammy as well. The manufacturers will release firmware updates to resolve this.
I would say what do you want the phone for - is storage space important, is size important (either big or small)? Make your decision on that basis as ultimately they are both pretty much the same hardware, and both are the same OS!
Oh, and HTC hub is more of a gimmick really, can't see the point in it overall since you now have the Metro UI instead. It looks nice, but can't see that you'd use it often as it's not the home screen.

rob_p said:
There are early glitches with it - there always well be, but I'm sure there are with the Sammy as well. The manufacturers will release firmware updates to resolve this.
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Agreed.. new OS's always have bugs.. the Samsung has them too, hope to be sorted soon by Microsoft.

Thanks for all of your responses, I think I'm going to go with the Samsung, I had a look at both devices in store today and the omnia 7 feels far better made and the games loaded much quicker; added to the beautiful screen is a winning combination. Thanks again for your responses I can't wait for my new phone!
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I've had both HD7 and Omnia 7 and the Omnia has much better build quality.
Oh and I would recommend going with a different network to 3, I signed up with them as they were the only shop to have a Omnia 7 in, I am not impressed with them at all.

Milky1 said:
I've had both HD7 and Omnia 7 and the Omnia has much better build quality.
Oh and I would recommend going with a different network to 3, I signed up with them as they were the only shop to have a Omnia 7 in, I am not impressed with them at all.
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Thanks for the info, I'm not sure I've never been with three and the only other deal that comes close is with orange who I'm currently on and have shocking coverage in my area. My mate who lives down the road has an omnia 7 with three and the signal is great where mine is awful :S
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I've got the omnia 7 and the quality of the screen just blows me away every time i look at it

Milky1 said:
I've had both HD7 and Omnia 7 and the Omnia has much better build quality.
Oh and I would recommend going with a different network to 3, I signed up with them as they were the only shop to have a Omnia 7 in, I am not impressed with them at all.
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I think it just depends more on where you live. I've been with 3 for the past 12 months and have found the network to be great.

Samsung Omnia 7
Somehow got the £35 month deal 900 min, 500 texts, unlimited landline calls, for £30 a month with t-mobile on a renewal i kept waiting for 3 months for Winmo7 deals. Wanted the HTC Pro 7 when it came out, But couldn't wait any longer
Along with comeradealexi everytime i look at the screen it's amazing. Glad i took it over the HTC. Bright, Crisp, Colour looks great.
I see jip about features such as settings that drain the bat are automaticly disabled like the camera features but i've come to think they work. the bat isn't the GREATEST i've noticed, so anything to keep it alive and kicking longer is A+ in my books.
The audio on the Samsung is amazing, and better than most bluray decoders i'm seeing because of the requirments of this thing.
And i'm glad they went NAND style storage *thumbs up Samsung*, Quicker, Snappy than SD and what you would expect as xbox's use the same style Nand storage but they only use 4gb in the new models, anyone who wants more GBs is just being silly, I'f you get a £500+ smartphone and can't afford Zune Pass while you have the phone then your should get another phone for music or your gonna moan. Simple as that.

Whatever you do, stay away from three. I think you can get an omnia 7 from t-mobile/orange instead.

t-mobile man, they always been good to me, plus we can use oranges signal now whatever that means to more coverage in 2G at least.

Right, found another deal which I'm defo going to go for.
-Free omnia 7
-T-mobile 24month
-600 mins
-500 sms
-Unlimited Data allowance
-Best of all £25 per month!
Thanks again for your responses.
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wwfc said:
Right, found another deal which I'm defo going to go for.
-Free omnia 7
-T-mobile 24month
-600 mins
-500 sms
-Unlimited Data allowance
-Best of all £25 per month!
Thanks again for your responses.
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Where did you find this deal?

Buymobilephones.net
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rashlan976 said:
I think it just depends more on where you live. I've been with 3 for the past 12 months and have found the network to be great.
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It's not so much the coverage, it's...well, a story:
When I went to O2 to get a HD7 the guy came over right away and we went through the form filling out and he explained everything and it all went smoothly. My number was ported within a few hours and all was good. When I took the phone back they didn't even ask why I wanted to return it they just put it through the till and refunded me all the money. They were great.
Then I went to the 3 store next door, the guy came over soon enough and said he had 1 Omnia 7 left. When I said I would take it we went over to the computers and while we were entering the details in he kept trying to sell me various things, first a router, then 3 home broadband. That was the first thing to annoy me, O2 did not try to sell me anything extra, not even a case.
After all the forms were done I gave him the PAC code and he said my number would be ported within 24 hours, it took 3 days. And even after 3 days it still had call forwarding on for some reason, so I rang the support line and of course the call centres are in India. The support guy couldn't help at all he said just wait longer basically. In the end I had to do the special code thing to get rid of it.

Will the laptop dock require tethering?

Ok so to pre order the atrix with the laptop dock you need the tethering option is that mandatory even if you buy the dock separately? Does the dock count as tethering?
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This was a line in the AT&T press release:
3. Laptop Dock - Firefox browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires Tethering Plan.
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http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=18996&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=31555
Maybe now that there are units in reviewers' hands somebody can try putting in a SIM without tethering plan and see what happens? Has anybody asked?

This also brings up the question...Cant we just blow up the google android browser and use that then since its not against at&t rules haha?

The way the release reads, it implies that using the firefox browser on wifi will be fine, but it's not spelled out.

Ok so using fire fox is tethering so possibly all other browsers will be ok ........ if it winds up that the device being plugged in its self beings the tethering process it would only be a matter of time before it would get cracked ........ I say this because how will Tue phone know when its using firefox on or off the dock if the dock isn't sending its own coding into the phone if that made any sense ....... the dock is obviously putting the phone into dock mode but is this dock mode the reason the phone would register the laptop as tethering?
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From what I understand you can get the laptop bundle with tethering, and then cancel tethering afterwards and just simply use wifi. The laptop dock does not require 3G/4G data to be used, but to get the bundle discount they want you to sign up for tethering in hopes you'll keep that service.

I see and if that is the case I will get the bundle but I am wondering if the laptopdock omits a signal or something coding idk that is sent to the phone to say it needs to be tethering
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clopes91 said:
I see and if that is the case I will get the bundle but I am wondering if the laptopdock omits a signal or something coding idk that is sent to the phone to say it needs to be tethering
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If that were true, I could understand the tethering requirement, but the multimedia dock doesn't seem to have anything in it other than a USB hub, and Moto said that the laptop dock is just a battery, screen, keyboard, and trackpad, no circuitry other than that.

If I was going to get a laptop dock this is the one I would go with this one even comes with a bigger screen and a dvd drive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834107067
Screw AT$T

smitty1 said:
If I was going to get a laptop dock this is the one I would go with this one even comes with a bigger screen and a dvd drive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834107067
Screw AT$T
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LOL. If I didn't have a couple of netbooks (Cr-48 FTW) already I might consider the Atrix laptop dock... if only for the battery.

Lol I keep seeing the new netbooks and laptops coming out and I am getting more and more turned off by the phone but as of now this is all just talk we will see what's what when its released .............. and aabout the tethering issue if it weren't for that reason how would att catch Mozilla as tethering they are releasing their mobile browsers soon if not already ..... there has to be more to the tethering thing then just using Firefox
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The tethering issue is just the software AT$T has on the phone.
The phone is not going to come with tethering over usb. The only way you will be able to get it is by slide loading an app. for it or paying AT$T.

Not even considering the laptop dock its a $200 device that they want $500 for.
I will buy a $300 netbook with more features.
Not even sure about the atrix yet it will be months before it has any custom roms, granted its the badest ass phone on the market,or will be.
However I could buy the inspire and root and rom the same day, use wifi hotspot to connect my netbook.
I just cant decide.

Atrix will only be bad ass until tomorrow ( the 13th mobile world conference) when the galaxy s2 is shown that's going to blow everything out of water the only thing is that its for tmobile and I like my att so idk what I'm going to do hopefully we can just implement a modem and it will work for att but the atrix dock I'd out of hand 500 can get you a 13 inch laptop with 4 gb ram 500 gb hdd HD screen bluray reader writer windows 7 64 bit an Intel i7 quad core mobile .......... they dibt eveven comapare 700 for both or even 500 for the bundle? I will have to see what the roms are like when ifs realeased and Matt's phone selection has to grow much larger every carrier has attractive phones and att is just there but we will see ........ might be moving over to T-Mobile for the galaxy s2
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clopes91 said:
Atrix will only be bad ass until tomorrow ( the 13th mobile world conference) when the galaxy s2 is shown that's going to blow everything out of water the only thing is that its for tmobile and I like my att so idk what I'm going to do hopefully we can just implement a modem and it will work for att but the atrix dock I'd out of hand 500 can get you a 13 inch laptop with 4 gb ram 500 gb hdd HD screen bluray reader writer windows 7 64 bit an Intel i7 quad core mobile .......... they dibt eveven comapare 700 for both or even 500 for the bundle? I will have to see what the roms are like when ifs realeased and Matt's phone selection has to grow much larger every carrier has attractive phones and att is just there but we will see ........ might be moving over to T-Mobile for the galaxy s2
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But when will the Galaxy S2 come out? Not for a while, I'd guess, since I read that they are going to start manufacturing the chips soon (as in, haven't started yet).
However I could buy the inspire and root and rom the same day
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You'll need to, since it will suck like the other Samsung phones, and it won't ever get any updates (based on the history of the Galaxy line so far). My feeling is that Samsung's dev team is always going to be too busy working on new stuff to ever release a freakin' update for their phones. They've lost me as a customer, that's for sure.

Well the galaxy s and the epic are getting or got Tue froyo update already and what's better hardware or software update keep in mind we can't update hardware but software we can do every and anything to it? So its a no win situation but I love samsungs and motos so idk what to do
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clopes91 said:
Well the galaxy s and the epic are getting or got Tue froyo update already and what's better hardware or software update keep in mind we can't update hardware but software we can do every and anything to it? So its a no win situation but I love samsungs and motos so idk what to do
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Well at least they're finally getting froyo, although I've heard that before. I like Samsung's hardware a lot, but the support has been horrible as far as updates, thank God for XDA! The Galaxy S line is supposed to be a top of the line phone.... well to me it shouldn't be running outdated software. The Nexus S has nearly identical software, and it runs Gingerbread. Why doesn't the rest of the Galaxy S line? The ROM dump from the Nexus S already runs on the Captivate (although buggy), so if Samsung took a small amount of time to fix the drivers, it could be released. The least they could do is open source the drivers so XDA devs could do it.
If you're trying to choose which to get, I'd say wait and see. I'm unhappy with my Captivate, though, and had to buy my wife a Dell Streak since she hated hers so much. I'd buy one too if I wasn't waiting for the Atrix.
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One thing to consider also is if you have the unlimited data plan. If you go with the laptop dock and get the tethering plan your unlimited data plan goes away. Makes it not worth it for me. Confirmed it yesterday at att.

definitely not getting the atrix unless they figure out how to use dock with out The tethering
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I sell my HD2

Hi all,
After month of faithfull and loyal services, I've decided to buy an iPhone.
I sell my HD2.
I can send it worldwide if someone is interested in it.
120€ + sending
Let me know if you're interested !

I'm looking for one for my son, but this is a bit steep for a phone that came out about three years ago.
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I'm sorry, I already sold it 155€.

MvL_1729 said:
I'm looking for one for my son, but this is a bit steep for a phone that came out about three years ago.
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HD2's are still expensive because they are still in demand due to its flexibility to run WM 6.5, Android, Windows Phone, and even Ubuntu Linux. No other phone out there can run multiple OS's and even dual boot. It's a tweaker's dream phone.
It's just an awesome phone! Even for its 3 yr old design it has stood the test of time and the hardware is still powerful enough to beat alot of the newer phones. It is also solidly built unlike today's flimsy plastic.
I just sold one of mine for $200.

hjhjhj said:
HD2's are still expensive because they are still in demand due to its flexibility to run WM 6.5, Android, Windows Phone, and even Ubuntu Linux. No other phone out there can run multiple OS's and even dual boot. It's a tweaker's dream phone.
It's just an awesome phone! Even for its 3 yr old design it has stood the test of time and the hardware is still powerful enough to beat alot of the newer phones. It is also solidly built unlike today's flimsy plastic.
I just sold one of mine for $200.
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I got mine for 50 I'm glad I wasn't buying from you
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got one 300$ last year
one 150$ last week with 3 thickened batteries

just got another one yesterday @ $160
now starting to root

HTC Shift x9500 - $199.99

After 5 years, it doesn't seem like prices are getting any lower for these. Wish I had the extra $$$ for one...
http://lastcall.dailysteals.com/?ut...2012_Sunday_5_Deals_7_6_2012&utm_medium=email

good price, but please dont buy this Super Slow Piece of Crap
bought it couple of weeks ago . used it for 1 hour.
not worth spending n e money

chils41 said:
good price, but please dont buy this Super Slow Piece of Crap
bought it couple of weeks ago . used it for 1 hour.
not worth spending n e money
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LOL. It was fast back in '07! I heard Windows 8 runs decent enough but no WiFi...

magiconthetire said:
LOL. It was fast back in '07! I heard Windows 8 runs decent enough but no WiFi...
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HUM.....
interesting, never thought about running Win 8 on it.
Well I dont really like win 8 on my HP TC4400 Tablet PC.
Love the Win 7, but i sure will give it a shot.
But my brother in law was telling me he can use it for his on the go Tally needs.
He need tht accounting software on the go.

I bought one of these, can't wait for it to get here. It will definitely be getting win8. I've wanted to play with win8, but since upgrading my servers to vm's and selling off the old machines I don't have extra hardware laying around the house. Plus, I don't even have a personal laptop, just my work machine, and while gf has two I'd like to get my own.

[Q] [B]Serious Dilemma, Sold Old Nexus, New coming in September, What to do ???[B]

Hello,
I am in a serious dilemma
I was anxiously waiting for the New Nexus 7 dubbed as Nexus 7 II. I was waiting for it like anything and checking it daily for months if anything new came up about the device until yesterday, it was officially announced.
However, I am very disappointed. The disappointment is not because of the device but due to the fact when it will release in the UK . I sold my nexus 7 first generation last week and my xperia so I could buy New nexus 7 and a new phone. Well, I love the new nexus but the problem is it won't release in the UK till September. I was expecting it to come to the UK the same week as it happened last year. Now without a tablet n a proper phone (using HTC incredible s in terrible condtion) I feel terrible. Hooked to technology and couldnot stay without it, I am not sure what to do.
To make matters worse, I be travelling to Malaysia/Thailand on august 9 and I won't be back by December due to some assignments.
I ask for suggestions what should I do.
I am going to get a phone for sure tomorrow so phone wouldnot be a problem.
My plan was to get a cheap phone and a Nexus 7 2 so I can manage between the two. One has to be cheap !
Hear are my choices, but if you think of anything better, please do not hesitate to reply.
1) Get a normal android phone for about GBP 100-150 max and get a cheap tablet and wait till December till I buy a new Nexus 10 or Nexus 7.
I personally like 8" Tablets. Will there be an 8 incher by then?
2) Get Nexus 7 again and wait till 2014 to buy a third generation. Would it live long enough to see Key Lime Pie ?
3) Get Nook Ebook Reader, the simple touch, get a better phone and just read books till then and use my phone for all the stuff.
4) Get a flight to USA, get two nexus 7 2, come back to the UK and then travel to Malaysia. [I wish I could afford such a lavish trip ]
You can understand how much I am willing to get a new Nexus 7 but at the same time, the disappointment of not having it till next year is killing me. I am just thinking of getting a Nook ebook reader and do everything else on my phone.
What do you suggest !!!
EDIT : I got my Nexus 7 and the sad part is , the top speakers do not work In another situation, one after another

I'm sure you can order a new Nexus 7 through a third party online.

Buy a used nexus 7 they are super cheap.
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If you come to America I'll put you up for the price of a second gen nexus 7! honestly just get a used gen 1. There is nothing wrong with them. Sure we all want the latest and greatest but it isn't like suddenly now that 7.2 is out all of our original 7`s are steamy piles of ****.
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I'm sure you can order a new Nexus 7 through a third party online.
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plznote said:
Buy a used nexus 7 they are super cheap.
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SlowCobra96 said:
If you come to America I'll put you up for the price of a second gen nexus 7! honestly just get a used gen 1. There is nothing wrong with them. Sure we all want the latest and greatest but it isn't like suddenly now that 7.2 is out all of our original 7`s are steamy piles of ****.
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Thank you all for your answers.
I checked third party sites which are giving out nexus 7 2 in the UK. They are taking 300 quids for 16 gb model which is very expensive. I guess I will get the old one used !
Cheers

You can buy from amazon, then use mail forwarding company like shipito or comgateway.
That's what I've done, very cheap

What about buying a used one off eBay or other sites like Craigslist, etc.

Nbsss said:
You can buy from amazon, then use mail forwarding company like shipito or comgateway.
That's what I've done, very cheap
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SlowCobra96 said:
If you come to America I'll put you up for the price of a second gen nexus 7! honestly just get a used gen 1. There is nothing wrong with them. Sure we all want the latest and greatest but it isn't like suddenly now that 7.2 is out all of our original 7`s are steamy piles of ****.
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Buy a used nexus 7 they are super cheap.
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hello again all of you,
for the price of nexus 7 2012, i was getting nexus 2013 in US through a friend so i skipped the old one and asked a friend to get it for me. now the problem is that her littler sister's coming who is only 12. her mom agreed to put nexus in her suitcase but the girl wont have any handcarry luggage. Now i m a bit uncertain again as i checked drop test video at youtube n few bumps wont turn new nexus 7 on. I know the aircarriers usually don't care about fragile stickers and throw things around? Thus there is a chance i might get nexus but not in working condition. So is there any way to make it shock proof?
should i go ahead n pay the 270$ price tag or wait. I have to sent the money to US so please reply quickly. thanks alot in advance

I personally wouldn't trust it in a bag with no proper packaging to secure it from bumps and bruises so to speak.
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Leave it packed in the box and wrap it in bubbles, it will be just fine. And put it in between some clothes in the middle of the suitcase. Or the girl can take it out and carry it in her pocket as her personal device.
When you think of it, delivery companies don't usually handle packages very well, and stuff still comes trough okay. Also whole crates of N7s travelled by ship from china and they are still fine.
I ordered a cell phone from amazon recently, there were now bubble wraps or anything, just an original box, wrapped in amazon carton, the phones box had some bruises, but the phone itself is fine. That was only from italy to slovenia but still.

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I personally wouldn't trust it in a bag with no proper packaging to secure it from bumps and bruises so to speak.
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issak42 said:
Leave it packed in the box and wrap it in bubbles, it will be just fine. And put it in between some clothes in the middle of the suitcase. Or the girl can take it out and carry it in her pocket as her personal device.
When you think of it, delivery companies don't usually handle packages very well, and stuff still comes trough okay. Also whole crates of N7s travelled by ship from china and they are still fine.
I ordered a cell phone from amazon recently, there were now bubble wraps or anything, just an original box, wrapped in amazon carton, the phones box had some bruises, but the phone itself is fine. That was only from italy to slovenia but still.
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Thank you for your help. Appreciated!
The nexus has been bought and it is arriving in a week now. So this is all decided.
I asked her Mom to open it and check for any defects in case any just to be on the safe side. Moreover, the girl is 11 or 12 so giving a device in her hands is a bit risky. Bubble packing makes sense and I already had thought about putting it in between clothes. I hope someone else tags along and can put it in carry on luggage. I will specially ask for bubble packing and keep it between clothes etc though.
In past, I have carried my devices(phones in socks,boxes etc) in plane for so many times and I never had a problem yet, once i bought a toy for my brother and it was in my luggage and it was slightly damaged/broken from its side however I was manage to fix the tires back(Big monster truck about 5 kgs)
Nexus has more weight than a normal phone and also it's very prone to drops as i saw the video on android police or android authority.
That just terrifies me!

Everything is fine, it came just fine and she just brought it without even opening it.
I had a faulty speaker though which started working on its own after some heavy gaming (Heat required for flux to melt a bit I guess )