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Hey all!
Brief introduction, just got myself a galaxy s a month ago....and shifted out from being a diehard hardcore winmo fan for the last 8 years! Android seems to be just brilliant and am totally loving it! Its a whole new OS compared to what ive been used to (winmo) for all these years - so yep, still exploring and figuring how things work on the internals
I've been trying froyo for the last month and it seemed nice in terms of the subtle refinements all across the os. However it still seems very unstable....overloading the ram causes the device to freeze, and then later it failed to boot...forcing me to restore factory settings. Finally, decided to roll back and give 2.1 a shot....and holy hell!!! its fasttttttt! Compared to our beta 2.2 build 2.1 is a world of difference! a lot more free ram available on the 2.1 build compared to 2.2 (almost a 100 megs more on 2.1!).
Anyway, I guess we'll have to just wait for samsung to clean it up and give us a stock 2.2 rom
same here... currently switching back to 2.1 ... 2.2 is nice, had JPC installed... has some cool new features and possibilities... but its still too buggy for me... today phone won't boot and i had to do a hard reset... this is annoying ... so waiting for the official realease of 2.2 and still looking forward to it
greetings from austria
aigolf
same here, switch back to eclair.
Although the 2.2 is a such pleasing experience over 2.1, it certainly is falling short on a lot of things for a daily phone. It also is being quite a pain in the rear while developing apps and trying them on the phone.
I quite agree with the fact that it would be much better to wait it out for Samsung to provide a proper 2.2 version.
Cheers....
Been using 2.2, now back using XWJM7. I have a good feeling about final version of 2.2 for SGS. I saw demos of Galaxy Tab using 2.2 on youtube, runs very smooth (almost same identical hardware with SGS). Expecting the same performance with SGS.
Samfirmware has just published their own package for JPC under the european FWs section. Do you think this could mean that all product code, IMEI, and other related issues with the KIES "leaked" JPC could be avoided and we can safely give it a try this time?
Since i got the phone one month ago i sticked with Eclair, trying several FWs for lag and battery draining aspect. Trying JM7 right now. Still have to find something fully satisfying.
Same here, I had JPC and Doc's modded Rom installed but still had a lot of FC's and it seems to me that the battery life is a tad worse than 2.1. Come on already Samsung! let's have the official Froyo!
Dont you just hate it when that happens
Seriously ?
I have had minimal problems with JPC.
Battery life has been massively improved, lag has been minimal.
The only real niggles i have had is the keyboard locking up a couple of times in the google search box.
Weird Huh ?
Exact same boat. Tried out Froyo and it was far too buggy so went back to Eclair. Waiting on Samsung to push out an official Froyo update.
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Seriously ?
I have had minimal problems with JPC.
Battery life has been massively improved, lag has been minimal.
The only real niggles i have had is the keyboard locking up a couple of times in the google search box.
Weird Huh ?
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Some people seem to be lucky but I've had hard-lockups regularly - my first install failed to boot after a couple days of use, I re-flashed and today had a crash/lockup, pulled battery, another one within 5 minutes of use, pulled battery, another one within 10 minutes of use. Only seems to happen when I'm doing certain things though, mainly web browsing / apps that render HTML, I played music on it for 2 hours straight with no trouble and games were fine.
Flashing back to eclair as soon as I can figure out which rom to use (I was on stock until JPC because I was happy enough with it and sick of buggy alpha ROMs from trying to make my 32B Magic more usable).
i have now jpc on my phone and works smootly
How to downgread back to 2.1, and where to get stock 2.1 firmware ???
wow!! this is by far the most active community ever i guess we have a lot of galaxy s users....and thats just awesome ;o)
im sure stock 2.2 from samsung should be really quick in comparison. 2.1 that im currently running works flawlessly and is also really really quick! I consistently have over 120megs of free ram...and when i clear ram it diligently goes back to 200megs free ram....always!
I think 2.2 has a load of memory leaks or perhaps a mismatched kernel...but seriously guys, its about time samsung gave us the stock rom!
They provide the source code, but they probably don't provide a fully stock rom because they don't want to encourage people to flash their phone unsafely.
JPC was terrible compared to JM7.
There are a few things I liked - the browser was making improvements, and high res cover art on the music player, and one or two other minor things, but otherwise, slow, buggy and annoying.
JM7 is the best I've used yet, WAY better than JPC.
I don't know about anyone else, but mine is staying that way now until a STABLE, FAST 2.2 firmware is out. Given how the 2.1 firmwares have progressed since it came out, I think I wont be flashing again for 2 - 3 months... I simply cannot be bothered with all this any more, all I ever wanted was for it to work properly in the first place. It is only because of this forum I've kept the phone as long as I have. I respect those who like to experiment, but I can't be bothered any more.
i'm staying with a clean install of jpc (SF Vers)
quadrant 1098
linpack 14.1
feels good to me
Tried 2.2 JP3 & JPC but 2.1 DDJG4 is far more better .. just rolled back to 2.1 its nice now..
Major problem with JPC for me was Exchnage mail reply block ... well repplied some official mails but recipients dint recd them ....
2.2 not ready yet for Galaxy .. We'll wait for Final release.
i have problems with zsjp2 and xxjpc, and both times i had used titanium to restore my apps. Even selectively restoring the apps, i do encounter problems of FCs, laggy, etc.
i did not roll back to eclair but did a fresh flash of jpc and discarded all the titanium backups. i did a fresh install of all the apps, and right now it is pretty good and smooth, and minimum lag encountered even without any lagfix.
of course eclair right now is a very much more stable rom, especially right now with the voodoo fix, it is indeed very tempting. however, after much deliberation, i decided to stick to jpc, until a new version comes.
p/s: my recovery had been downgraded to 2e and it does not require any signature verification at all, and all this is made possible by Leshak.
G00ndu
Do you sync with exchange?
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Bare with me as I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to tinkering with phones but can someone explain why there are so many variations in the results of flashing phones with, specifically, jvk gingerbread?
I flashed my phone a few weeks ago when jvk was initially leaked and I've had no issues. My battery lasts my 18 hour day from waking up to going back to bed with plenty to spare and pretty heavy usage, I've experienced no bugs, no issues with games, screen rotation problems, gps problems. Its been as good as, if not better than froyo (the battery life certainly is) but then other people experience all manner of issues with the same installation. Where does the inconsistency come from? Odin? The files? The phone? Why do bugs effect one phone but not another?
i think it has to do with the previous ROM and files on the phone what cause bugs (apart from the bugs stated in the actual ROM )
thats why people HIGHLY recommend a full factory reset along with formatting sd card / datadata/ cache partition / dalvik cache and so on.
to ensure a complete and empty phone before installing the new ROM
You probably have a point.
Mine was stock unmolested 2.2.1 which had, had a factory reset a couple of weeks before I installed jvk due to failing to start.
a lot more could be down to third party apps as well, and pulling the battery out without turning the device off.
this doesnt give the phone time to save open apps / files. this can cause issues in the long run.
you wouldnt just unplug your PC without shutting it down would ya so i guess the same thing goes for these modern day smartphones
Plus its a beta firmware .
jje
-Liam- said:
Bare with me as I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to tinkering with phones but can someone explain why there are so many variations in the results of flashing phones with, specifically, jvk gingerbread?
I flashed my phone a few weeks ago when jvk was initially leaked and I've had no issues. My battery lasts my 18 hour day from waking up to going back to bed with plenty to spare and pretty heavy usage, I've experienced no bugs, no issues with games, screen rotation problems, gps problems. Its been as good as, if not better than froyo (the battery life certainly is) but then other people experience all manner of issues with the same installation. Where does the inconsistency come from? Odin? The files? The phone? Why do bugs effect one phone but not another?
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Actually this is a very good question. I too installed JVK ... one of the first as soon as it was uploaded on 26th March. Rooted it, modded icons and its running like a dream ever since, no FCs,,fast, smooth and nearly 2 days battery typically.
Strangely for JVK I parted from my normal policy of factory resetting, formatting SD, using PIT with re-partition etc, and despite having flashed many ROMs and kernels - from 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1, JV1, Darky, Kitchen etc. etc its still purring away.
So for me at least, with the minimum of effort and preparation, JVK has proved an absolute winner.
I'm amazed at how much flack is flying around elsewhere against it...it is very strange to find such a range of experiences with the same hardware and the same firmware
mossy1963 said:
Actually this is a very good question. I too installed JVK ... one of the first as soon as it was uploaded on 26th March. Rooted it, modded icons and its running like a dream ever since, no FCs,,fast, smooth and nearly 2 days battery typically.
Strangely for JVK I parted from my normal policy of factory resetting, formatting SD, using PIT with re-partition etc, and despite having flashed many ROMs and kernels - from 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1, JV1, Darky, Kitchen etc. etc its still purring away.
So for me at least, with the minimum of effort and preparation, JVK has proved an absolute winner.
I'm amazed at how much flack is flying around elsewhere against it...it is very strange to find such a range of experiences with the same hardware and the same firmware
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Same here. I'd be seriously tempted to leave all as it is when a final version is released unless there was something specific that it offered that jvk doesn't. You see lots of people having all kinds of issues but it wouldn't help if I just posted that mine was fine and they must be doing something wrong, hence my question.
Is there any true bugless/very minimally bugged ROM out there? Tried CM6, CM6, Evervolv, and some others. I'm talking something that can be fully fixed if there are bugs in it, or is there a ROM that will basically be a stock evo with the sprint garbage removed from it, i was wondering maybe I could stick a savagedzen kernel on it and get some better speed from it as well with bettery battery life. I know there is a fresh evo but I don't think that this ROM gets rid of the junkware sprint puts on? Since quadrant scores and the like are mostly useless I'm beginning to even wonder, are you "truly" getting any more speed out of a custom ROM over stock without getting bugs?
Right now I'm on CM7, everything is wonderful, of course except for the bugs. The random 3g -> 1x for no reason, making the internet not even usable. The random mini-lockups/terrible lag that I can get, etc are all just too annoying to deal with when they pop up. It's irritating when I go to my friends and say "here check this out, this thing has more battery life and as fast a he-...oh well actually my internet on it is bugging out right now and the lockscreen I have to really quick reboot for etc etc." What's the point of speed if these sort of things happen, you know? All of the flashiness of gingerbread is starting to urk me with all the bugs it brings, I haven't tried a froyo mod except for myns, I don't remember what kind of bugs I had in that, if any. What's the best way to go from here? Maybe give CM6 a try again and put SZen kernel on it?(I only ever tried it with stock) Thanks for any opinions/sorry for the mini text wall.
Newsflash: CM7 is buggy, and has always been buggy, hence the ever updated releases.
If you want a ROM that's as close to 100% stable as you can find, try the bigger Sense ROM's....
Are there any very stable AOSP ROMs? Especially gingerbread? Or do these only truly become stable when the real releases are out for the phones? Because If that's not the case, why not just run stock, you know? What's the real benefit? The only reason I rooted in the very beginning was to get rid of the junk Sprint has attached in the beginning. I don't mind sense. However ever since I've rooted I've been on a speed/battery hunt thinking I could get something majorly different. Is it even worth it? What is CM6 like with savagedzen for instance? Because that's what I'm thinking of trying next. Or are all AOSP going to have pretty hefty bugs with them one way or another due to the nature of them?
So far the new ports of the Shift roms are solid as a rock. Misfits for stock. Kings for some ultra themed ones and Zone23 for blue.
Give them a try you won't regret disappointed.
Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
iwantyourskulls said:
Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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What are you gaining over a stock evo, though. Compared to this?
Years ago the phones were slow and bloated. You could install custom ROMs and actually notice an increase in speed.
With the phones coming out now they are already fast and if you root to look for a speed increase you might not notice much. You will notice all the bloatware gone though.
For a stable ROM I would look for a 2.2 Calk ROM or ones like that. They may not have been updated in awhile but that's because there isn't much to add or change. Everything works.
What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
See I don't understand why the call them "release [clients?]", and then release a "full version", even when the full version is still buggy with devices. I stayed away from CM7 for that exact reason until they finally got the full version up. Once I stuck it on i was enjoying it so much but the bugs are just too annoying to deal with anymore. Can't even show off with it because of them popping up at the dumbest times and then it's like yeah so much for that awesome phone hack. I might go try myn's again or CM6, not sure. I just want the stock apps gone, and I want a stable environment. Speed is nice too. Being unique is nice, when it doesn't have huge drawbacks.
Crossrocker said:
What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
On the sense side, I've found Koni's elite series III to be flawless...I'm currently running ava's ginger sense and haven't had any real issues with it either... can't go wrong with either of those.. just my two cents..
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
chandlerw88 said:
No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
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I know there isn't a "bug free" ROM or phone. But in terms of crippling bugs, CM7 at the moment for me is horrifying when I'm trying to show it to others especially.
As for the 3g/1x bug it is very real, and it's the worst. I get 1x for no reason inside my house and outside on occasion, it will then switch back to 3g if I restart the phone, or wait [sometimes an absurdly long time] until it fixes itself. I've not had that issue with any other ROMs, stock evo, gingerbread ROMs, or anything of the like. I've reflashed completely fresh with and without the GPS fix, with savagedzen and stock - no difference. Maybe it's just my phone, regardless though, there are so many people asking for help on different areas of CM7 it makes me not want to bother because it is not a truly stable rom for Evo for a lot of people. The battery charger bug I can deal with, mine lags to high hell when it's on the charger - that's something I can fix within an instant and not have it bother me. As for the 3g/1x, the random app mini freezes, the lockscreen not wanting to come on sometimes unless I hold down the button much longer until I restart, and other things of the sort, i cannot. It's not worth the flashy menus, and really the battery life is nothing near a froyo ROM, not even close. (I don't expect it to be).
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What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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I use amon 2.3 as well, and I always full wipe after storing a backup on my comp (complete full wipe)
I played with my friend's stock unrooted evo yesterday and no joke, the thing randomly rebooted in my hands while doing nothing special at all.
With that said, any rom here is more stable than stock, but try SavageMod 1.2.1, most stable 2.3.3 I've tried.
I have to endorse Koni's. I ran it for over a month, until I flashed Giger today to pay with 'til Koni releases v.IV
It's not overly themed, perfectly smooth and everything I needed to work did fine, and not one FC the entire time I ran it.
The setup in my sig is how I had it set up. The only difference now, of course, is the ROM
I like sinister for stability, its V4 now and I can't think of a single issue with it.
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c1o5ry1991 said:
The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
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I always like ava's ROMs for fast and stable - Z4 isn't quite their yet, but give Z3 a shot.
No GB on/off animation mod as of yet, but you can add the GB keyboard to any ROM. There a quite a few diff ones from the themes and apps forum.
Gotta jump in here for some input...
If you just strictly want Sense, I was always a Myn Warm Two Point Two guy.
If you can't live without the screen off animation, Deck's Gingerbread is by far the way to go. Yes, it is built from CM7 to an extent but Deck really does a great job taking care of problems. There is a stable 1.0 and beta 1.2(x). Everyone likes CM7 because its popular and known, but honestly after using CM7 for awhile and then jumping to Deck's rom I will never look back.
If you want to remove the bloat from a stock sprint rom don't forget that you can always just do it by removing the apk's from your system with root explorer or through ADB.
How to through ADB:
--adb remount
--adb shell
-- cd /system/app
--ls
-- Once all the apps show up, you just type: rm <insert the apk name here.apk>
--reboot your phone and BAMMMMM!
Hi !
I am truly cursed, and I'm tired...
With my Galaxy S, I found a ROM that I like quite quickly.
But with this Galaxy Note, none of the ROM are OK...
MySam => Bugs, Laggy, Reverse screen (CRT bug)
Romow => Reverse screen, wifi disconnect
DarkyNote => Many bugs...
2.3.6 Deodexed STOCK XXKL3 + Abyss 2.4 => Very hot, with SD Card, Messages application crash the phone...
Stock ROM + Root => No realy optimized ;(
So I have a question for you, my Galaxy Note is haunted ?
Do you have a recent ROM, with no lags, no useless applications, WITHOUT ANY BUGS, root, and fast ?
Thx for all, and sorry for my translated english :/
Merry Christmas !
Toshiro-Sama said:
Hi !
I am truly cursed, and I'm tired...
With my Galaxy S, I found a ROM that I like quite quickly.
But with this Galaxy Note, none of the ROM are OK...
MySam => Bugs, Laggy, Reverse screen (CRT bug)
Romow => Reverse screen, wifi disconnect
DarkyNote => Many bugs...
2.3.6 Deodexed STOCK XXKL3 + Abyss 2.4 => Very hot, with SD Card, Messages application crash the phone...
Stock ROM + Root => No realy optimized ;(
So I have a question for you, my Galaxy Note is haunted ?
Do you have a recent ROM, with no lags, no useless applications, WITHOUT ANY BUGS, root, and fast ?
Thx for all, and sorry for my translated english :/
Merry Christmas !
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If your Note is not faulty when using the original ROM then you cannot blame the Note. I don't think any manufacturer guarantees the operation of their phones other than with their own ROM.
First of all, Merry Christmas!
No, I don't believe your Note is at fault. In a span of 12 months, I've owned the Galaxy S, S2 and finally the Note. Based on my experience with the other two phones, almost none of the ROMs suit me. The best would be a deodexed rom with bloatware removed and nothing else, for the S2. The other ROMs either had a myriad of issues or were not aesthetically my style.
What I do now is to read up on the latest stock ROMs from the different regions. I'm from Asia, but may use a non-Asian ROM if it seems the "best" right now. So I'll install that and root it, then use Titanium and Gemini App Manager to uninstall, freeze and prevent apps from starting upon booting the phone. This works the best for me, and it may work for you too.
In the meantime, there are more ROMs coming out, hopefully one or two will suit you if you really prefer that to stock.
Have you tried Cassie's XtraLiteRom KL3 ThunderBolted?
It removes all the useless Samsung-included apps and lets you with a very small and fast ROM. The only problem I have seen is with the maket not letting you purchase new apps, but that has been solved.
I'm running that since a week ago and I have no intention of changing. Too customized ROMs (to change the icons, colors, etc), usually have serious bugs that make something fundamental not working.
I have been dealing with cooked ROMs for years, in Windows Mobile and now Android. And have seen this many times. New customized ROM, flashy icons, animations... it's just that FM Radio no longer works, or WiFi disconnects, or GPS signal is very bad...
Just give me stock ROM rooted, with all bloatware removed.
Roms
Dude, these roms are still in development, you cant install a custom rom and expect perfection.
Have you any idea how long it takes developers to produce the next build, ie, ICS 4.0, which quickly became 4.03?
This is what software development is all about, wether its microsoft windows, fifa 2012 or sheep rom, it makes no odds, software cant be perfected at the very first attempt, which is why these guys at XDA continually develop and improve on their work, they are a godsend to this community and we should be thanking and praising them, not moaning coz of a bug in the rom, So THANYOU, to all you guys developing and releasing candidates for us to try, it is, greatly appreciated.
I have to add on one final note, that i have tried Rocket rom, Sheep rom and a couple of deodexed roms with tweaks, overall, there may be slight noticeable changes, but all in, not enough to warrant ditching stock kka.
BUT, I HAVE NOT, come across any issues running these customs, all roms ran smoothly on my Note without any signs of bugs.
IMPORTANT to note, no matter what instructions you use for installation, it is always important to wipe the dalvik and cache and, do a factory reset after installation, some people think its not essential, but ive always found the factory reset erases any possible conflicts with the new rom intergrating with left over data from the previous rom, FACTORY reset always gets rid of most issues people are having.
#Merry xmas to all and to all you developers, keep up the good work guys, were seeing some awesome stuff being produced, many thanks...
vcespon said:
Have you tried Cassie's XtraLiteRom KL3 ThunderBolted?
It removes all the useless Samsung-included apps and lets you with a very small and fast ROM. The only problem I have seen is with the maket not letting you purchase new apps, but that has been solved.
I'm running that since a week ago and I have no intention of changing. Too customized ROMs (to change the icons, colors, etc), usually have serious bugs that make something fundamental not working.
I have been dealing with cooked ROMs for years, in Windows Mobile and now Android. And have seen this many times. New customized ROM, flashy icons, animations... it's just that FM Radio no longer works, or WiFi disconnects, or GPS signal is very bad...
Just give me stock ROM rooted, with all bloatware removed.
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Let's go to test, actually, i'm on a rom with several bugs, last week, ~10 times restore 23k SMS/100+ apps, very long...
graemeg said:
Dude, these roms are still in development, you cant install a custom rom and expect perfection.
Have you any idea how long it takes developers to produce the next build, ie, ICS 4.0, which quickly became 4.03?
This is what software development is all about, wether its microsoft windows, fifa 2012 or sheep rom, it makes no odds, software cant be perfected at the very first attempt, which is why these guys at XDA continually develop and improve on their work, they are a godsend to this community and we should be thanking and praising them, not moaning coz of a bug in the rom, So THANYOU, to all you guys developing and releasing candidates for us to try, it is, greatly appreciated.
I have to add on one final note, that i have tried Rocket rom, Sheep rom and a couple of deodexed roms with tweaks, overall, there may be slight noticeable changes, but all in, not enough to warrant ditching stock kka.
BUT, I HAVE NOT, come across any issues running these customs, all roms ran smoothly on my Note without any signs of bugs.
IMPORTANT to note, no matter what instructions you use for installation, it is always important to wipe the dalvik and cache and, do a factory reset after installation, some people think its not essential, but ive always found the factory reset erases any possible conflicts with the new rom intergrating with left over data from the previous rom, FACTORY reset always gets rid of most issues people are having.
#Merry xmas to all and to all you developers, keep up the good work guys, were seeing some awesome stuff being produced, many thanks...
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Of course, the developers for SGS1 and SGS2 are so many more, the work is so much more beautiful, for a SGS2, first ROM downloaded Sensation1.5, worked perfectly the first time and finally, she turns for 3 weeks, no worries . This is what I'm looking for GNote, a simple ROM, close to the traditional, with options for advanced customization (themes, tray, etc ...), yet very optimized and 100% reliable and stable ...
And of course, Merry Christmas to our developpers
stock
in that case, stick to stock GB and download themes instead, or just wait for ics because i imagine work on gb will come to a halt then.
Now, i'm on Cassie's XtraLiteRom KL3 ThunderBolted v4, no problems (but my phone is in charge, with SMS restore (go SMS pro), battery 6% > 1%.
No FC (only TW, removed), it's Ok !
I can now go on holiday ! ^^
Toshiro-Sama said:
Now, i'm on Cassie's XtraLiteRom KL3 ThunderBolted v4, no problems (but my phone is in charge, with SMS restore (go SMS pro), battery 6% > 1%.
No FC (only TW, removed), it's Ok !
I can now go on holiday ! ^^
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Hope it goes well for you.
I came from the original galaxy s and can say the best custom roms have only just started to come out after a year and a bit it will be the same on here. Most of the guys who create sgs 2 roms came from the galaxy s arena so had a good head start. There are some great people on here creating great roms with a wide variety of ROM types to suit different peoplesneeds. But in time we will have better bases to work on, bugs ironed out and more ROM chefs, and that can only be good for the end user, we just need a little time before the creativity starts to stream ahead
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hear hear
his point ?
Patience, as the man said, it takes time, and by the time great roms have been perfected on GB, the android guys will have gone from ICS to something more spectacular, like Android 4.5 codename Banana milkshake or something even more ridiculous than ice cream sandwich..
vcespon said:
Have you tried Cassie's XtraLiteRom KL3 ThunderBolted?
It removes all the useless Samsung-included apps and lets you with a very small and fast ROM. The only problem I have seen is with the maket not letting you purchase new apps, but that has been solved.
I'm running that since a week ago and I have no intention of changing. Too customized ROMs (to change the icons, colors, etc), usually have serious bugs that make something fundamental not working.
I have been dealing with cooked ROMs for years, in Windows Mobile and now Android. And have seen this many times. New customized ROM, flashy icons, animations... it's just that FM Radio no longer works, or WiFi disconnects, or GPS signal is very bad...
Just give me stock ROM rooted, with all bloatware removed.
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Listen to this guy. I support rom cookers' attitudes, spending time tweaking and making things "better" and sharing it with people. However, in the end I always prefer stock with bloatware gone, than a rom with new features but with buggy inconsistent side-effects.
Cassie's XtraLiteRom KL3 ThunderBolted is a good rom, I use it as well.
My month with a factory unlocked Galaxy S2
Bought this in mint condition from a friend for about half price with only 1 hour of use, an unwanted upgrade. Came with 2.3.4 as expected, so hooked up to Kies; no update at the time. As is my wont, I used the phone for a few days to get to grips with TouchWiz (TW) and the phone generally. All quite reasonable, no stability issues and TW is not bad by any means.
My thoughts and trials so far then:
Hardware
Well made, light and thin. Slippery, so a black rubbery skin bought and fitted and I popped a spare 8GB microSD card in, not that the phone needs it for my purposes.
Only criticism is the OLED screen, I'm used to higher resolution (Moto and Sony) and 800x480 looks rather "cheapo" in terms of detail on a screen this large, but no deal breaker. What I do find somewhat at odds with the price of the phone is the slight but noticeable shading and colour tints across the screen at low brightness levels and on some backgrounds. Plus, the screen's legibility outside on a bright day is no better than more run of the mill LCD screens. (I mean cheaper!)
My first GB update
I generally root phones straight after flashing a new firmware version, if it isn't already. I had already successfully rooted the original stock 2.3.4 firmware with Zergrush 4 and debloated that ROM.
I was keen to try a later GB version before trying ICS, and I found 2.3.6 for "Open Europe" on Sammobile and downloaded it. I had already tried Kies, so the USB drivers were present and working. I uninstalled Kies on the PC but left the USB drivers alone. Kies and Odin are not good bedfellows. I did a full factory reset on the phone and erased everything, allowed it to reboot and then powered off, got in to download mode and flashed XXKL1 (which is an engineering version and deodexed it seems). Rooted it via Zergrush 4, deleted known bloat and renamed possible bloat to xxx.bak to clean the ROM for my own usage, and deleted that very annoying start-up sound. Downloaded all the apps I normally use (about 22 of them), including the excellent CPU Spy to check for deep sleep.
I used/charged the phone over the next couple of days to let the OS bed in. No problems encountered at all, and a very pleasing battery life of 30+ hours of light use, with syncing and GPS, 3G, WiFi always on and occasional BT. Magic! Only thing I did is change the Modem to LPR - the KI3 Modem that came with the ROM is not quite as good at holding weak signals. Only just though...
My first ICS update
So, good phone, stable and very usable ROM in 2.3.6. Time had come to try this new ICS thing. Downloaded the LPQ version and installed it, after a full wipe, via Odin. Not impressed by all the automatic installation rubbish at first boot... Rooted via a hot boot CWM and SU/Busybox successfully and did all the same debloating and app installation as GB 2.3.6. Spent some time getting orientated and used to the new menus and so on.
Over the next day or so, I let the ROM settle and began using the ROM - I changed the Modem to LPR as LPQ was not as good, perception wise. ROM was stable and usable, didn't really look or feel much different from 2.3.6 and was worse on battery - I would say 18 hours at best with the same usage pattern.
Absolutely hate the new Exchange thing for live.com email.... real pain usability wise and battery unfriendly.
My second ICS update
So, not overly impressed with LPQ, although it was usable, I decided to try LP7, the UK generic one. Went through the same process as above, and again swapped the Modem from LPS (awful!) to LPR.
No obvious differences at all. Battery life was as poor, but it was usable.
My first CM trial - CM9
So, somewhat disillusioned by Samsung's ICS implementation, I decide to look around for another "mature" ROM. CM9 fitted the bill (I have used CM6 before on another phone) and was smack bang up to date in terms of kernel, AOSP and G Apps. After my usual clean deck start, installed fine, 23/04 build.
At first, I was quite impressed as I could configure more and to my liking. The ROM was stable and I set the phone up with the usual Apps and deleted some useless stuff (like GenieWidget).
Swapped Modem out to LPR - bit of a theme going on here...
I liked the fact that the Spirit FM radio worked (so bought the Pro version as it is that good). The ROM is very usable and never got bogged down, BUT, for reasons I never fully determined, the battery life would start OK and then decline faster during the day. I never saw more than 12 hours life, again using as per my normal pattern and after a few days to settle. There appeared to be various background activities going on that were preventing deep sleep sometimes, but BBS was not really showing me what. Note that I only use BBS as a last resort as it can increase battery use...
No other real problems, but the soft key backlights wouldn't play with NoLED and were somewhat counter-intuitive. A bit trivial, but a mess.
My second CM trial - CM7
I like GB, it is mature and well understood, so CM7 RC 2 was therefore of some appeal. It had been developed over months and must therefore be fairly sorted. Surely.
Installed without issue on a cleaned platform as usual, including G Apps. Did the usual debloat and installed the usual Apps from the Market/Play, and some that were missing, like GMail. LPR modem was already there, Hooray! Spent rather longer fiddling with the settings in CM7 than CM9 since they were less obvious at first, to me anyway.
Switched off and put the phone on wall charge overnight and was rather shocked to find the phone was noticeably warm and displaying "Kernel Panic" in the morning. The phone had only charged by about 5% in total (to 64%). Worry Worry. I put the phone on USB charge until 100% without incident.
Started to use the phone as normal, the phone UI and operation was very good, fluid even. But, first problem I had was in the car. I paired BT fine, as usual, and made a phone call. After the call, I couldn't end the call on the car or phone - it had locked up. Oh dear.
Later, I tried the FM Radio during my daily walk - doesn't work, so why is it there? I tried Spirit FM - no way would it work. Oh dear.
The following day, I noticed that the battery life was amazing! I had never seen this phone sip juice like this. Deep sleep was always easily achieved. That was until the afternoon. I noticed that the battery level was declining at a much higher rate than earlier. I hadn't done anything different, so BBS was called in again. Nothing obvious shown but I kept seeing the GPS icon winking at me from the Notification bar, and continually. I always keep GPS on, but for some reason on this ROM, no GPS signal meant the ROM just kept trying. I played with various settings like Location etc. and managed to stop this odd behaviour, but this was too silly. I use a Smartphone for all the smart features. This wasn't very smart at all.
CM7 was my biggest disappointment of all the above ROM trials. It was the lightest and most promising, and yet the least reliable or functional. Which is a huge shame...
Today...
I'm now back on KL1 2.3.6, and it just works fine - day after day.
The future for me?
I would really like to use CM9 (or CM7 for that matter). They represent a number of ideals for me, including the open nature of development, the collaboration, a pioneering spirit and giving users a choice and a superb base to build on. I am no developer - I can split and modify kernels to a point, I can rehash ROMs with or without adb, I can amend frameworks. But little more.
Reserved for "tips and hints"
Avoiding problems
Always data reset and wipe before doing anything major from one ROM to another, or follow the installation guide for any specific differences in approach.
Avoid Titanium Backup like the plague - it invariably leads to functional issues later if you cross flash. Use Google and/or airdroid for everything, it all just works. So many friends and other forums I contribute to have had too many backup issues to count. Go clean. Forget about Google paranoia.
ES File Explorer is very useful and recommended.
Don't bother "calibrating" the battery - it's an outdated practice and useless. Just use the phone normally, and anyone who claims the battery life is "great" 1 hour after flashing a newly announced ROM is a fool. Likewise NEVER fully discharge a Li-Ion battery. Just keep topping it up. See here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
Thoughts
Newer ROMs are rarely better ROMs. Better means different things to different folk of course.
ICS ROM core LPQ to LP8 are largely all the same, just variants of the same thing for different markets. Some users believe they perform differently.
Custom kernels and ROMs are always work in progress and should be treated as such. Check out the number of revisions. Some kernel cookers are (welcome) enthusiastic amateurs that assume more is better and cram "fixes" in that the professional salaried software engineers have mysteriously missed. If you only need your stock kernel to be insecure, learn how to make it so. You are running Linux on your box, right?
Deodexing is not a means to improve performance, on the contrary.
Undervolting is a mythical beast
I bought a phone with an FM radio because I want to use it!
And I totally agree. to all of it. Tried all iterations of almost all roms available. For some reason keep going to my VR 3.0 nandroid back up.
Except CM9, I don't really think there is any real development going on. Most are just cooked up roms OR stuff taken from the CM9 tree and implemented OR so called fixes that have actually broken something else OR just debloated rooted official firmware (that AFAIK is pretty easy to do with the fantastic dsixda's kitchen or on a rooted rom).
Now fanboy's may flame as much as they wish to, but seriously a stable CM9 (hopefully..!) or a VR 4.0 is all I am willing to wait for.
Till such time VR 3.0 it is.
LenAsh said:
Reserved for "tips and hints"
Newer ROMs are rarely better ROMs. Better means different things to different folk of course.
ICS ROM core LPQ to LP8 are largely all the same, just variants of the same thing for different markets. Some users believe they perform differently.
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I don't agree with your final thought. Different ics rooms have really different feels. E.g. Look at scrolling from lpq to lp7.....and there are numerous others as well. If u want more specific thoughts and feedback, just browse through different ics threads in this section..
omeryounos said:
I don't agree with your final thought. Different ics rooms have really different feels. E.g. Look at scrolling from lpq to lp7.....and there are numerous others as well. If u want more specific thoughts and feedback, just browse through different ics threads in this section..
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Hmm... I have browsed through the sections, and tried various "revisions" or versions of Samsung ICS today while jotting this lot down, and my view, honestly, is there is no real difference. That isn't to say there isn't, I just can't see or feel it. I do accept that playing with 3 ROMs in a few hours is less than ideal. And a drag!
I suppose if someone could deconstruct the ROMs properly and thoroughly...
Anyway, thanks for your thoughts, appreciated.
Very nice review! +1
Keep up the good work
I broadly agree with the OP.
ICS/AOSP/AOKP/CM9 have improved over the last few weeks, but I'm back on GB, and will probably stay with it until I get the SGS3.
May be subjective, but for me the GB stock browser, camera and dialler are streets ahead of what the rest can offer. Scrolling is smoother too. And I like/need a radio.
B3311 said:
I broadly agree with the OP.
ICS/AOSP/AOKP/CM9 have improved over the last few weeks, but I'm back on GB, and will probably stay with it until I get the SGS3.
May be subjective, but for me the GB stock browser, camera and dialler are streets ahead of what the rest can offer. Scrolling is smoother too. And I like/need a radio.
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Seems like you and the OP only tried the AOSP/AOKP roms? Give the roms based on the latest official a try.
The dialer is still as good as always (unchanged), camera is actually improved with higher bitrate recording and the ics stock browser...is untouchable at the moment in my opinion. (Granted I use "ICS Browser+" from the market which uses the best ui in a browser I've encountered)
I currently use Dynamic's ICS rom and it would be extremely difficult for me to go back to GB at this point.
Sigurd02 said:
Seems like you and the OP only tried the AOSP/AOKP roms? Give the roms based on the latest official a try.
The dialer is still as good as always (unchanged), camera is actually improved with higher bitrate recording and the ics stock browser...is untouchable at the moment in my opinion. (Granted I use "ICS Browser+" from the market which uses the best ui in a browser I've encountered)
I currently use Dynamic's ICS rom and it would be extremely difficult for me to go back to GB at this point.
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While I agree that in terms of loading websites, ics default browser is a little bit faster, scrolling and pinch and zooming is much smoother with stock gb browser. Also the dialer is worse on ics as it has removed the contacts section which means I have to put both the dialer and contacts shortcut on the dock.
I'm using Wanamlite v11.1, Siyahkernel v3.1, and Apex Launcher.
A winning combination in my opinion, that is now at least as good as the best GB ROMs in terms of battery life. 7 hours standby with 30 minutes screen time and i'm still on 87%.
In terms of fluidity and performance I think ICS /w Apex beats GB handsdown.
Thanks for the recommendation, but I avoid ROM mix ups, I can do that myself. The ones I have looked at have had some very dubious scripts and additions. I usually look at build.prop first, and generally find all sorts of hybrid attempts at adding stuff that is completely wrong. Lines taken from websites, other phones and so on.
LenAsh said:
Thanks for the recommendation, but I avoid ROM mix ups, I can do that myself. The ones I have looked at have had some very dubious scripts and additions. I usually look at build.prop first, and generally find all sorts of hybrid attempts at adding stuff that is completely wrong. Lines taken from websites, other phones and so on.
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Depends, it was like you say in Gingerbread days, not with ICS WanamLite nor Dynamic, only tried these + CM9
I am using Dynamic 1.4 LP9, it is as smooth and fast as CM9, but everything working because it is Samsung based
I tried the included NEAK and Speedmod kernels, similar performance and very good battery life, only 3% drain overnight, I dont play with processor tweaking
Sigurd02 said:
Seems like you and the OP only tried the AOSP/AOKP roms? Give the roms based on the latest official a try.
The dialer is still as good as always (unchanged), camera is actually improved with higher bitrate recording and the ics stock browser...is untouchable at the moment in my opinion. (Granted I use "ICS Browser+" from the market which uses the best ui in a browser I've encountered)
I currently use Dynamic's ICS rom and it would be extremely difficult for me to go back to GB at this point.
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Dialer is laggy if you compare it with GB. CM9 variants have slightly more response dialers but overall, GB dialer is way more responsive. There is a small but noticeable lag when pressing a key and the time it takes to register on ICS (CM9 & stock).
Camera recording with stereo voice recording...! Seriously how many people do shoot video with a phone's camera? For facebook uploads mono audio is just fine..
Browser is a definitive improvement yes, and the desktop mode is welcome but browser mods have been available on GB since long.
It is not that ICS is bad. It is actually very good, but the way it has been implemented on S2 is downright ridiculous...! And not one stable vanilla build isn't really helping..
kranti2064 said:
For some reason keep going to my VR 3.0 nandroid back up.
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This is something I have been contemplating for quite some time now, quite possibly the last month. The only real thing stopping me is that for some reason alot of games (eg dead space and modern combat 3) don't seem to like it when i change roms, and even though all the ingame data is there, sometimes it decides I have to re-download.
I do miss it alot though.. and also red pill kernel
I might end up doing a backup of current my CM9 and take the plunge sometime soon. I've been using CM9 since around feb and lately I think my interest has plateaued and now I'm just beginning to get frustrated with little lags that are popping up more frequently (probably due for a wipe mind you!). The only thing about villiam rom is the bloody touch wiz launcher.. I just don't like messing with the launcher roms were made for either.
kranti2064 said:
Camera recording with stereo voice recording...! Seriously how many people do shoot video with a phone's camera? For facebook uploads mono audio is just fine..
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Mass lols to be had at the fact that a majority of the time they would be played on the device through the mono loudspeaker too
I also go back for GB..becoz i feel that ics so laggy at dialer,and PES2012 freeze and cant play on ics..but in GB all working great..
Daripada galaxy s2 non-G
melorib said:
Depends, it was like you say in Gingerbread days, not with ICS WanamLite nor Dynamic, only tried these + CM9
I am using Dynamic 1.4 LP9, it is as smooth and fast as CM9, but everything working because it is Samsung based
I tried the included NEAK and Speedmod kernels, similar performance and very good battery life, only 3% drain overnight, I dont play with processor tweaking
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kranti2064 said:
And I totally agree. to all of it. Tried all iterations of almost all roms available. For some reason keep going to my VR 3.0 nandroid back up.
Except CM9, I don't really think there is any real development going on. Most are just cooked up roms OR stuff taken from the CM9 tree and implemented OR so called fixes that have actually broken something else OR just debloated rooted official firmware (that AFAIK is pretty easy to do with the fantastic dsixda's kitchen or on a rooted rom).
Now fanboy's may flame as much as they wish to, but seriously a stable CM9 (hopefully..!) or a VR 4.0 is all I am willing to wait for.
Till such time VR 3.0 it is.
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Currently trying ninphetamine kernel (as per VR3 - thanks for the heads up) on my fave stock KL1 more for interest than anything. Seems OK, no obvious difference from stock running as is apart from it being insecure, need a couple of days to evaluate in real life use.
Bloody good post. I've been using CM9 since the video recording bug was solved, and thats probably the longest I've used any ROM on the SGS2, I really like AOSP but the problem is it does still have quite a few bugs, and isn't quite as fast or as battery friendly as I remember the likes of Hyperdroid v6 being.
This makes me tempted to go back to GB. For me, it is still the ultimate for a daily driver. But I'm lazy so I'll probably stick with CM9.
kranti2064 said:
Dialer is laggy if you compare it with GB. CM9 variants have slightly more response dialers but overall, GB dialer is way more responsive. There is a small but noticeable lag when pressing a key and the time it takes to register on ICS (CM9 & stock).
Camera recording with stereo voice recording...! Seriously how many people do shoot video with a phone's camera? For facebook uploads mono audio is just fine..
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ICS dialer laggy , doesn't happen to me on stock LP9 or Dynamic based on LP9 and CM9 is as smooth as they come. Whilst mono audio is fine for you I quite like having stereo audio. Choice, not limitations my friend
tameracingdriver said:
Bloody good post. I've been using CM9 since the video recording bug was solved, and thats probably the longest I've used any ROM on the SGS2, I really like AOSP but the problem is it does still have quite a few bugs, and isn't quite as fast or as battery friendly as I remember the likes of Hyperdroid v6 being.
This makes me tempted to go back to GB. For me, it is still the ultimate for a daily driver. But I'm lazy so I'll probably stick with CM9.
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Cheers for that - I would definitely recommend the 2.3.6 KL1 off Sammobile if you want a solid GB.
Dude, if you have not tried CheckRom RevoHD V6, then you have not tried the BEST gingerbread rom for sgs2.
This is why I can not use ICS (yet). Checkrom is just too perfect of a Rom.
Try it, tweak it to your liking, use it for a week or 3 then try and go back to stock.
CheckRom XDA thread