had not used my hd2 in two months turned it on and it was just a white screen with no htc logo, couldnt get magldr... nothing. i was able to get splash screen so i decided to try flash back to windows 6.5 to start again, i tried sd card (leoimg.nbh) method which failed aster 10% or so .. so i tried pc method that failed after 1% , tried sd card again and again then it failed saying not allowed! when i went into bootloader mode it now says spl-1.42.0000 ... hspl is gone! still i cant flash winmo rom pc\sd method and hspl 2 keeps failing also,
If i boot the phone normally i just get a triangle
If anyone has any ideas how to get anything working on this please help
i have a tmobile UK phone
"Not allow" and "get triangle" and "hspl gone" tells us that a rom you tried to flash from SD card was not the correct rom for your phones region/carrier.
When you started the flash hspl was there so the checks were bypassed,,, next hspl was removed (spl is the first part to flash) then the flash restarts, but of course hspl is gone so the checks aren't bypassed so they fail and you get a triangle.
thanks for the reply, thats what a thought but where to go from here hspl2 just wont work iv tried the correct rom from htc for uk tmobile but it dont get past 0% , the first one was from xda and is indeed different, the problem is where to go from here? this must have happened to someone else, ive been trying to get this to work for two days now and searched a lot but cant seem to find anything that will flash... any ideas??
wooooohoooo ..... had nothing to loose so tried ruu \ pc method over and over and over finally it flashed win mo 6.5 ... man windows suck lol.
if anyone having this problem this is how i did it, tried flashing the ruu using pc, got same as before it just got stuck on 0% , dissconeted the cable then i got the dissconected error with "view document" and "recovery" options i then just followed the recovery options and it flashed winmo
hopefully this helps someone!!!
thats not a good sign. Failing failing failing then working, and also flashes hanging at around 8% - 10% (your first post) often point to radio failing and/or caused by / because of overheating hardware.
If flashing problems persist, try chilling teh phone for twenty minutes in the freezer (sim battery and sd out) and if it flashes ok when you take it out, its heat issues.
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thats not a good sign. Failing failing failing then working, and also flashes hanging at around 8% - 10% (your first post) often point to radio failing and/or caused by / because of overheating hardware.
If flashing problems persist, try chilling teh phone for twenty minutes in the freezer (sim battery and sd out) and if it flashes ok when you take it out, its heat issues.
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I would try to give better advice than just saying to put it in the freezer. I can't wait to hear someone reading this and doing it. Then pulling their phone out, connecting it, and seeing it go pop fizzle as the motherboard shorts out through all the condensation that got collected on it in the freezer.
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I would try to give better advice than just saying to put it in the freezer. I can't wait to hear someone reading this and doing it. Then pulling their phone out, connecting it, and seeing it go pop fizzle as the motherboard shorts out through all the condensation that got collected on it in the freezer.
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have you not read around the hd2 section yet? there are hundreds of posts/threads talking about chilling the phone to get past a stuck flash.
Google 'xda hd2 freezer'
well....... im with you and this being hardware issue,
i did
task29
flashed radio
flashed maglder
flashed cwm 150
flashed rom (that needed 150)
all working ok for few hours put it in my pocket , then when i took it out i had a white screen
at least rebooting it i get android back. its out of warrenty now so i guess this is the end of the road for it, had this phone for over 2 years now and tbh its had a lot of stick, its had android on it from july 2010 when it was darkstone \ mattc days, i only brought it out of retirement coz me galaxy nexus is off for replacement (stock(hardware issue))
thanks for your input,
rip hd2!!!!!!!!!!!!!
samsamuel said:
have you not read around the hd2 section yet? there are hundreds of posts/threads talking about chilling the phone to get past a stuck flash.
Google 'xda hd2 freezer'
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I've also read that in response to having the digitizer go dead and dropping the phone in water. Doesn't mean when giving the advice one shouldn't also give a few words of warning. Have you actually ever done this? I have. This advice has been around for years, and crops up across a variety of electronic devices. Try Googling "hard drive freezer fix" or "ipad freezer fix." Just because it shows up as hits on Google doesn't mean that the physics of the potential problems change.
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Doesn't mean when giving the advice one shouldn't also give a few words of warning.
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ahh see now you're touching on the dilemma as to whether one should simply offer a suggestion, or whether one should always assume the reader is stupid and offer not only suggestions, but hand-hold the reader through the process. (an assumption i despise, BTW, why should everything be aimed at the lowest common denominator? If someone offered me a suggestion, i'd take their answer and read around the subject, if someone else chooses not to do that and just blindly leap into the unknown, based on a single response, that's their lookout)
Have you actually ever done this? I have.
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Yea, a coupla times.
This advice has been around for years, and crops up across a variety of electronic devices.
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Pretty much anything that can overheat, in fact.
Try Googling "hard drive freezer fix" or "ipad freezer fix." Just because it shows up as hits on Google doesn't mean that the physics of the potential problems change.
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I suspect that if you did the maths, you would find the moisture level of air in a freezer to be several times lower than , for example, the air in a sweaty pocket on a warm day, so the chances of condensation are pretty slim. Compared to all the other 'potential problems' this phone faces, condensation from being in the freezer is pretty low on the list.
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So I went out and got a TMOUS HD2. Fantastic. Love it more than the Iphone for the typical reasons. So I'm at the point where its time to really make it mine, custom rom, a few tweaks, a few preferred apps, etc...
Here's what goes down.
1. I try to install HSPL. I fail, not yet knowing there is a difference between the TMOUS and typical flavor machine. Luckily I don't brick, learn my lesson, find the right HSPL.
2. Install a TMOUS friendly HSPL. Cotulla shows in the boot loader and all that jazz. Radio is of the 2.08 flavor which should be compatible with sutom roms, so with that 100% successful I should be good to go.
3. Huh. Rom page says I should TASK29 before I install. Ok. TASK29 seems like a cleanout and reformat of the room, so that makes sense, though I only seem to half understand it. What's the least hassle way to handle that? Well, since I don't want to change my radio it looks like the "ShaDrac repack" is the way to go. I follow the download link, watch the youtube video, and set to do the deed.
4. This is where I should be saying "and then I went into the bootloader and installed the TMOUS friendly custom rom." I didn't get this far. TASK29 went to 100% and rebooted the phone, only it hung on the T-Mobile splash screen (that part that says "stick together!" in obnoxious pink). I figure it just needs a good old fashioned reset like in the instructions. I pull the battery and put it back in, getting the same result. I'm a bit worried, but I have my rom ready on an SD card, toss that in and proceed to try to go to the boot loader (which should always come up since HSPL is installed, right?) Well, that time when I tried to boot up I got nothing, not even the ill fated splash screen. This thing looks bricked, doesn't respond AT ALL, even after I let it sit for 24 hours to let the internal battery die and hope it'll go to at least the bootloader. Tried hard reset, tried linking it up to the computer (WMDC says there is no device there), tried volume down+power. Nothing it just sits there like a rock.
I went over my steps carefully, read numerous posts, and as far as I can see I did nothing wrong. (I completely avoided anything involving the radio and the dreaded number "51") Please correct me if I'm effed up somewhere. I've flashed devices before and never bricked, even though this was my first HD2 attempt, so I'm not completely unknowing in the subject.
If anyone has a solution I'd love to hear it. If anyone has any idea WTF happened, I'd love to hear that as well, even if it means I just made a $300 mistake. At this point I am officially stumped like a chump.
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So I went out and got a TMOUS HD2. Fantastic. Love it more than the Iphone for the typical reasons. So I'm at the point where its time to really make it mine, custom rom, a few tweaks, a few preferred apps, etc...
Here's what goes down.
1. I try to install HSPL. I fail, not yet knowing there is a difference between the TMOUS and typical flavor machine. Luckily I don't brick, learn my lesson, find the right HSPL.
2. Install a TMOUS friendly HSPL. Cotulla shows in the boot loader and all that jazz. Radio is of the 2.08 flavor which should be compatible with sutom roms, so with that 100% successful I should be good to go.
3. Huh. Rom page says I should TASK29 before I install. Ok. TASK29 seems like a cleanout and reformat of the room, so that makes sense, though I only seem to half understand it. What's the least hassle way to handle that? Well, since I don't want to change my radio it looks like the "ShaDrac repack" is the way to go. I follow the download link, watch the youtube video, and set to do the deed.
4. This is where I should be saying "and then I went into the bootloader and installed the TMOUS friendly custom rom." I didn't get this far. TASK29 went to 100% and rebooted the phone, only it hung on the T-Mobile splash screen (that part that says "stick together!" in obnoxious pink). I figure it just needs a good old fashioned reset like in the instructions. I pull the battery and put it back in, getting the same result. I'm a bit worried, but I have my rom ready on an SD card, toss that in and proceed to try to go to the boot loader (which should always come up since HSPL is installed, right?) Well, that time when I tried to boot up I got nothing, not even the ill fated splash screen. This thing looks bricked, doesn't respond AT ALL, even after I let it sit for 24 hours to let the internal battery die and hope it'll go to at least the bootloader. Tried hard reset, tried linking it up to the computer (WMDC says there is no device there), tried volume down+power. Nothing it just sits there like a rock.
I went over my steps carefully, read numerous posts, and as far as I can see I did nothing wrong. (I completely avoided anything involving the radio and the dreaded number "51") Please correct me if I'm effed up somewhere. I've flashed devices before and never bricked, even though this was my first HD2 attempt, so I'm not completely unknowing in the subject.
If anyone has a solution I'd love to hear it. If anyone has any idea WTF happened, I'd love to hear that as well, even if it means I just made a $300 mistake. At this point I am officially stumped like a chump.
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If I'm following you then what you need to do is put the phone in bootloader manually. Pull the battery and hold down the "down volumn" button. This should bring up the tri-colored screen(bootloader). Connect your USB cable wait for it to show "USB" then Flash away...I hope this helps
Im sorry...Just read your whole post and it seems you've already done what I suggested..
well if the battery is dead, it isnt going to turn on. now that the battery has depleted completely, let the phone charge again. once it does try to go into bootloader and flash ROM from sdcard or via USB.
One more thing...
Oh, one thing I forgot to mention before.
I've set the thing charging for about 3 hours and still no response. Furthermore, when I have the charge cable in I don't get the LED that lights up during a charge does not turn on. It just sits there unresponsive.
check your battery pins. plus you haven't said what rom was on your sd card.
oh and in step four, after task 29, it's supposed to hang at the boot screen, there's no rom on the phone, task 29 just erased it.
you should have held vol down as soon as it hit 100% and gone into boot loader. if you mis time it, pop the battery, hold vol down and tap power to manually enter boot loader then connect to usb and flash your rom.
The rom I was trying to flash to was the latest OZrom for the 1024. Seems like the most stable cooked rom that I've been able to find for the TMOUS HD2.
Mostly I just want a WM 6.5.5 rom with CHT and the full functionality of the HD2. WM 6.5 stock just isn't quite finger friendly enough for me (though HTC Sense helps a LOT) and I want to have some more of the customization that CHT offers.
Holy crab in a burning biodegradable bag on my doorstep.
It was the battery pins not lining up properly. Why is it always the dumbest most simple things that defeat me when I'm handling something high tech?
did you get it flashed okay? I'm gonna attempt my first flash tomorrow for my hd2 and I was gonna do the task 29 also, pretty much with the same steps you listed. When I saw your post it worried me for a sec
SUCCESS!!!
I have successfully flashed OZrom onto my HD2 and have saved myself from having to spend another $300 in shame.
Had to flash from SD card since for some reason WMDC 6.1 was not detecting the HD2 on bootload screen, but it still worked.
Hopefully that'll take some of the fear out of this process.
Do your research right and things go (almost) according to plan.
dont worry
Do not worry man same **** happen to me.... I had gunk on the batt pins felt like an idiot lol
If you have any other issues with the phone not charging check out my post on the pins for the battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701939
There has been an issue with the contacts being bent and then they don't contact the battery and wouldn't charge it.
Well, I'd like to thank you all for your help with my issue. My HD2 seems to be rocking nicely. Battery life seems to be shortened a bit, but I've also probably been tooling around with it too much, else it might just be I chose a power hungry rom. I'll also keep my eye on that batter contact issue.
Once again. Thank you.
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Well, I'd like to thank you all for your help with my issue. My HD2 seems to be rocking nicely. Battery life seems to be shortened a bit, but I've also probably been tooling around with it too much, else it might just be I chose a power hungry rom. I'll also keep my eye on that batter contact issue.
Once again. Thank you.
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Do this test with different radios.
Flash a radio and let it charge all the way and write the time you unplug it and let it die by it self and then write the time.
Flash another radio and do the same thing.
While doing these test try to use the phone with the same settings as the previous tests and close to the same usage.
This way you can find the best radio for the area you live in which helps battery life overall.
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Had to flash from SD card since for some reason WMDC 6.1 was not detecting the HD2 on bootload screen, but it still worked.
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no it won't recognize it.it doesn't need to.
when the phone is in boot loader connect usb and watch the phone screen for the word serial to change to usb. when it says usb you can flash. wmdc will never see a phone in boot loader.
when instructions say "connect to active sync " they don't mean connect to the active sync/wmdc software they just mean connect to usb. its an added confusion that there is no need for.
Guys, I need a bit of advice please.
After an accidentally botched radio install (phone fell and disconnected from USB whilst flashing), my HD2 won't boot. It gets stuck on the multi-coloured 'initial screen' (for want of a better expression) with 'SPL-1.42.HPSL XE CotullaHSPL' on it.
I'm looking to do one of two things, either rescue it, or, PREFERABLY kill it completely so that the device does not even boot to that screen. I know that sounds like a strange preference, but that would be ideal for me. Have you got any suggestions at all guys?
If you want to send it back and get a new one, then you definetly have to remove HSPL. Get HSPL2 and try to flash 1.42.0000. If it works, your problem is solved! Simply take it to customer service, complain about it not booting all of a sudden and you`ll either get a new one or get yours fixed.
However... if you fail removing HSPL and have no other option available, try and microwave it, literally. Put it in a microwave oven until it refuses to boot, then take it back to customer service complaining about how it suddely stopped working.
Best of luck!
Quite LITERALLY put it in the microwave and turn the microwave on?? For how long? Won't it just 'melt' the innerds, or blow up?
Yep. I did this to mine in 10 second intervals. The first time nothing happened, it just got hot. The second time, the vibrations stopped working. The third time nothing. The fourth time the screen started to fail (but STILL booted into the bootloader). The fifth time it only booted with a white screen and I stopped, as I had acheived what I wanted and the screen was already pretty damaged.
Thanks, a very, er, interesting suggestion. However I want the phone to look the same, i.e undamaged! But be bricked. If it's not possible, then I'll have to try and rescue the poor thing .
Best decision you could take. Hope you succeed!
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Guys, I need a bit of advice please.
After an accidentally botched radio install (phone fell and disconnected from USB whilst flashing), my HD2 won't boot. It gets stuck on the multi-coloured 'initial screen' (for want of a better expression) with 'SPL-1.42.HPSL XE CotullaHSPL' on it.
I'm looking to do one of two things, either rescue it, or, PREFERABLY kill it completely so that the device does not even boot to that screen. I know that sounds like a strange preference, but that would be ideal for me. Have you got any suggestions at all guys?
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Does it show USB on the bootloader(multi-color) screen?
If it does you can flash a new radio/rom and maybe fix it ...
Or Flash from SDcard
I've managed to flash it to stock 1.43 from SD card, which appears to have also removed the HSPL. This is a win. However, I would still like to brick the phone so I can get a brand new replacement... I really could use a sure fire (but safe, and does not cause hw damage) brick method.
hspl, task29, remove hspl. you`ll get a white htc logo screen without the ability to enter bootloader.
However, I would still like to brick the phone so I can get a brand new replacement... I really could use a sure fire (but safe, and does not cause hw damage) brick method.
A friend (and yes - it was actually an friend and not me!) allegedly did this:
He took the socket from the end of an extension lead, put the plug into the mains socket and then VERY CARFULLY and very briefly touched the bare Live and Neutral wires onto the battery terminals in the phone.
240V into the circuit board apparently did the trick
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I think he was very silly to do this cos he could've hurt himself so please don't follow his example!
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Hmm, yes, a method that doesn't involve microwaves or 240 volts would be preferable .
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I've managed to flash it to stock 1.43 from SD card, which appears to have also removed the HSPL. This is a win. However, I would still like to brick the phone so I can get a brand new replacement... I really could use a sure fire (but safe, and does not cause hw damage) brick method.
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This kind of talks (insurance fraud) is illegal.
Thread closed.
I've had my phone for about 6 months. It was working fine, but lately it's been acting really strange. It freezes on boot and get stuck on the "Stick together" screen.
I've tried a HR, Update and it still persists.
I've wanted to flash a custom rom, but the phone also freezes on the boot loader so i can't even get the flash to follow through.
The one time i got the tmobile's latest flash update to work. It rebooted the phone and then the problem was still there. With it getting stuck on the "Stick together" screen.
A few times when i tried booting the phone, the phone vibrated 7 times and then turned off.
I've looked around the forum and searched for quite some time but haven't found anything. (It's a pretty big forum so i may have missed it). I will continue to keep looking but if anything has a fix or can help me please do.
Thanks!
(Glad to finally be part of this community)
-Raymon
Sounds silly but try these two things.
1. There are some pins on the battery that can be easily bent. Inspect them to make sure they're ok. There are usually other symptoms with this though, such as it won't take a charge or won't start at all, just thought I'd mention it.
2. Try it without the SD card in.
Hey, thanks for the reply!
The phone charges fine with the usb cable. It's at full charge right now actually.
I took out the sim card and sd card when i did the HR and before i put those back in, the phone still froze on boot.
Really not sure what's going on, I'm going to try flashing it again when i get home. But last time i tried, it got stuck at 0% and then my phone froze, was scared it was going to brick, but i don't think it did.
Any other insight would be great, i really hope to resolve this issue.
If any other information is needed, please don't hesitate to ask. I can provide as much as possible to get to a conclusion.
Thanks,
-Raymon.
I got the same problem -- freezes and 7 vibrations before it. I made formatting with mtty (task 29 and task2a), it didn't help.
Anybody knows about 7 vibrations signal? Is there leodiag like blackdiag for HD?
That 7 vibrations HAS to mean something...but i'll be damned if I know what. People in both Leo sections keep saying that their phones vibrate 7 times then shut off, and I don't know what that really means....some investigation is in order!
Just got done talking to t-mobile, my replacement is on it's way, still very weird.
Would love to know the solution to this.
Please tell me can I replace my faulty HD2 from T-Mobile? I bought it in Frys without contract and used it with another provider. I never had a T-Mobile contract.
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Please tell me can I replace my faulty HD2 from T-Mobile? I bought it in Frys without contract and used it with another provider. I never had a T-Mobile contract.
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same here, bought the phone on Ebay and i live in Albania.
i have the 7 vibrations and then i have to take off the battery , leave the phone cool down so i can use it again for the next 10-20 minutes and then back to the vibrations
I have the same problem, mostly when i used GPS application, the phone reboot then vibrate one on th esplash screen then 7 times and freeze, the solution for this is to remove the battery for 10-20 minutes, pray and put it back, it is very annoying. I have this problem with ROM including the stock ROM.
hd2 freezes on BOOT!!!
try to take out the sim and leave the SD card in you will notice that it will work much better and get past the stick together screen ..mine does the same thing i think i may theSIM card but who know??
Nice suggestion, but totally useless.
I think these 7 vibrations means fault in NAND operation, but didn't find any approves.
I've this problem too.
7 vibration and freeze.
I've try update new radio, task29, new custom rom but nothing better.
Did anyone found any solutions, Please share.
Thank you.
mine got same problem.. i put the hd2 in freezer (without battery) for 3 minutes, then take it out.. put battery.. and my hd2 can start.. but after a while, when the cold is gone.. my hd2 will off it self.. hehehe
Any solutions?
I have the same symptoms, though the vibrations aren't that frequent, as much as stucking is..
I am not in a position to get a replacement, what do I need to fix?
This seems to be a heating problem, the freezer solution seems to work
When I picked it up it would only boot to a screen with a triangle with an exclamation mark in it and it says Software Update Failed! Please try again. He said he was trying to load Android but didn't know what he was doing and every time he pulls the battery that's as far as it gets. I figured for $20 maybe I can get it into bootloader and do something with it. I got it home and did a battery pull, put it back in and held the power button and volume down and nothing. Now it won't even turn on at all. When I picked it up he did a battery pull and turned it on to the Software Failed screen but now nothing. I've left the battery out for an hour, had it plugged in to 2 different wall chargers and every USB port on my computer and nothing. I even stripped a USB cable and held the wires to the + - terminals on the battery for 15 minutes and nothing. I'm hoping the battery is just shot or not taking any charge and a new one might at least get me to the bootloader.
I suggest you make a Gold Card to flash it with. This is like the one almost assured flash of Windows Mobile to your HD2. a Gold Card will force a flash sometimes. If you do not know what a Gold Card is just Google Gold Card for HTC HD2.
If you can flash Windows Mobile back to the HD2 you can then try Android again on it if you want.
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When I picked it up it would only boot to a screen with a triangle with an exclamation mark in it and it says Software Update Failed! Please try again. He said he was trying to load Android but didn't know what he was doing and every time he pulls the battery that's as far as it gets. I figured for $20 maybe I can get it into bootloader and do something with it. I got it home and did a battery pull, put it back in and held the power button and volume down and nothing. Now it won't even turn on at all. When I picked it up he did a battery pull and turned it on to the Software Failed screen but now nothing. I've left the battery out for an hour, had it plugged in to 2 different wall chargers and every USB port on my computer and nothing. I even stripped a USB cable and held the wires to the + - terminals on the battery for 15 minutes and nothing. I'm hoping the battery is just shot or not taking any charge and a new one might at least get me to the bootloader.
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20$ !!! HOW ?????
Ill Buy it from you as is for $50 Australian dollars plus postage. The Australian dollar is worth like 50 gadjillion US dollars at the moment so its a great deal for both of us.
hungry81 said:
Ill Buy it from you as is for $50 Australian dollars plus postage. The Australian dollar is worth like 50 gadjillion US dollars at the moment so its a great deal for both of us.
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20$ !!! HOW ?????
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Because at the moment it's a $20 paperweight. Black screen, no charging light, won't even go to the software failed screen. I don't know anyone else with another HD2 I can use to check the battery or to use to charge it if it is dead. If worse comes to worse I'll send it off to HTC.
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I suggest you make a Gold Card to flash it with. This is like the one almost assured flash of Windows Mobile to your HD2. a Gold Card will force a flash sometimes. If you do not know what a Gold Card is just Google Gold Card for HTC HD2.
If you can flash Windows Mobile back to the HD2 you can then try Android again on it if you want.
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I read the tutorial a couple times and I'm guessing the phone would have to have power to do this. This puppy is dead at the moment. For all I know it was Raptured during the night.
check the battery pins carefully for bent pins, and also, just to check, when you did the bare usb cable charging, you put neg to neg, live to live, right?(black to - red to +, , + being the outer one)
Id probably try a phone shop, see if they'l let you put a battery in for a few seconds, just to confirm if its the battery that has died, and if theyre really nice maybe theyl let you try your battery in their hd2.
If it IS the battery and you get it working, its dead simple, no goldcard or anything like that needed,, , the exclamation screen you got is from flashing an incorrect (wrong carrier/region) stock rom via sd card whilst hspl was installed, (its been removed now, by the start of teh sd card flash, thats why it gave rom update fail) and simply entering bootloader and reflashing using a rom correct for your serial will fix that.
(or indeed entering bootloader, applying hspl then flashing your chosen cooked rom and radio, , , or radio and magldr, whatever you want to do. Its a scary screen the exclamation one, but its one of the easiest to get past)
Yeah a phone shop is probably a good idea. There's a T-Mobile pretty close. I had an HD2 I sold last year that I had put some different ROMs on and Android so I figured if this one was stuck at the software failed screen it would be a pretty easy fix. I used it in the Yucatan for the GSM signal plus it doubles as a pretty good camera and bought this one because I'm going back. But reading the threads about it just being dead and not booting to anything makes me think it might be trashed. If it is I'm only out $20. If it's to pricey for HTC to fix it there are a couple on craigslist cheap with broken LCD's. Might try piecing 2 together.
unfortunately looks like you've bricked the unit, you can actually resurect it by using JTAG software/hardware http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XroEPU4qyuM
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unfortunately looks like you've bricked the unit, you can actually resurect it by using JTAG software/hardware http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XroEPU4qyuM
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That's what I was thinking. But I didn't do it, all I did was pull the battery. If it is it's only $20
Its not the famous tmous radio brick, unless you didnt mention something you did in your first post.
the only way it gets that kind of brick is flashing a radio from a regular HD2, the fact that the flash failed (exclamation screen) and you say you didnt try to flash anything else would point to a different problem. If the radio HAD flashed, the phone wouldnt have booted even to the excl screen.
You see, when you flash a stock rom via sd card, if hspl is installed it will allow the flash to start, but step 1 is first changing the spl(removing hspl) then the phone restarts into the new spl, and flashing continues. But because hspl is no longer there, cid checks fail and the flashing stops, so no radio gets flashed, so no radio brick.
radio bricks happen when you flash a non tmous stock rom via Goldcard or via usb whilst hspl is installed, because over USB, hspl is NOT removed at step 1 so the flashing is allowed to continue, the radio gets flashed, the phone dies.
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Its not the famous tmous radio brick, unless you didnt mention something you did in your first post.
the only way it gets that kind of brick is flashing a radio from a regular HD2, the fact that the flash failed (exclamation screen) and you say you didnt try to flash anything else would point to a different problem. If the radio HAD flashed, the phone wouldnt have booted even to the excl screen.
You see, when you flash a stock rom via sd card, if hspl is installed it will allow the flash to start, but step 1 is first changing the spl(removing hspl) then the phone restarts into the new spl, and flashing continues. But because hspl is no longer there, cid checks fail and the flashing stops, so no radio gets flashed, so no radio brick.
radio bricks happen when you flash a non tmous stock rom via Goldcard or via usb whilst hspl is installed, because over USB, hspl is NOT removed at step 1 so the flashing is allowed to continue, the radio gets flashed, the phone dies.
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You see the problem is I don't know what this guy did to it. All he said was he tried to load Android. When I picked it up in would power on and stop at the Software Failed screen. After I pulled the battery it does absolutely nothing.
jmac1968 said:
You see the problem is I don't know what this guy did to it. All he said was he tried to load Android. When I picked it up in would power on and stop at the Software Failed screen. After I pulled the battery it does absolutely nothing.
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exactly, which is why im suspecting battery/battery pins/power issue, because it DID come on for you, meaning it isnt a radio brick, and the pins are very easily bent when the battery is pulled, one slight twist to the angle of rotation and the casing on the battery around the flat connectors catches the pins on the way up and out.
If he was installing android, he most likely installed magldr, which prevents teh battery from charging when the phone is off, hence me wanting to double check you were doing the USB bare wire charger correctly, because a totally dead battery won't charge in the phone, if magldr is there. And so, back to testing if its teh battery, thats what you need to confirm before you can move on,,,,, is the battery alive but flat? ten seconds with a known good battery, or a HD2 running winmo (can charge when off with winmo installed) will answer it for you.
Yes I made sure it was hooked up correctly. I held the wires on the terminals for what I thought would be long enough. Maybe the battery is junk? Thanks for the pointers though. I do appreciate the help.
In my first post last night I took it you were having a issue with getting a ROM to flash. I see now your issue is not this so I do apologize.
Samsamuel has givin you some great advice. Have you tried connecting your wall charger to the HD2 and then power it on? This is how I would get my HD2 to boot back up so I could charge if I accidentally let the battery drain all the way down and I was using MAGLDR. (Not a problem anymore thanks to cLK)
Now seeing as you do not have a ROM to boot into this will not charge your battery but just maybe prove the HD2 is not dead. I agree with Samamuel about it not being bricked, I think you just have battery/power issues right now, namely the lack of power.
Go to this thread that just sprung up last Tuesday in the HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A and General forum. Read the first post as it gives a method of charging your battery when dead using MAGLDR. I have not personally tested this cause I no longer use MAGLDR. I can not promise you it works but it is worth a shot. Let us know if this worked for you and post in the thread I linked as well if it works. That thread needs a confirmation post.
I tried 2 different wall chargers and just tried to tip in the thread you suggested. Nothing. Even tried a PowerMat for 3 hours.
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I tried 2 different wall chargers and just tried to tip in the thread you suggested. Nothing. Even tried a PowerMat for 3 hours.
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Does this conclude that the battery is dead ??? and you might need a new battery ?
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Does this conclude that the battery is dead ??? and you might need a new battery ?
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It might be.
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It might be.
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Then go for it
Alright, so here's the deal. I came into possession of a Euro HD2 recently. I have been using my personal TMo HD2 for a year or two. The problem with the Euro one I was given is that it refuses to boot past the splash screen. Here's a breakdown of everything I've tried so far to restore it.
The device boots into the bootloader without any problems. I initially loaded HSPL 3.03 onto it. It was originally on SPL 2.08. I've done a task29 on it several times with the RUU and device reporting it as a success. After this, I've also flashed a few radios to make sure the radio partition was fine. When trying to flash a ROM, it will either finish all the way and then boot to the secondary splash, where it stops booting, or it stops the flashing process at 3%.
I'm thinking that the NAND may be corrupted, but I'm not entirely sure. I don't have access to JTAG, so that isn't an option. If I can't fix this one, then it's not a big deal. I'll just scrap it for parts. It would be nice to have a second HD2 to sell or give to a dev, or even to use as a backup.
The bootloader reads as follows
PB81120 HX-B3
SPL-2.08.HSPL 8G XE
0x05
CotullaHSPL 0x30
It will not accept a ROM image via SD. I can see the screen flash to the gray SD loading screen for a split second before it returns to the RGB bootloader. Currently using a 16GB SD card. I'm going to use a 1GB card in a few minutes to check that the size isn't an issue.
SD flash needs 4gb or smaller card
samsamuel said:
SD flash needs 4gb or smaller card
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Sorry for the late reply. I had to acquire a smaller SD card. I've just used a 1GB microSD card. The update seems to have gone through. It hangs at gray screen where it says UPDATE SUCCESSFUL. I left it there for 10 minutes. On my 1024Leo, it always reboots on its own after this. I had to pull the battery on this one to make it reset. Then it does the same thing as before where it just hangs at the splash screen when I try to boot it normally.
Any other suggestions I might try before ordering a replacement board?
Does it vibrate before it gets stuck and feel hot?
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Does it vibrate before it gets stuck and feel hot?
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It vibrates while powering on, but does not move past the primary splash screen. It does not heat up any noticeable amount.
this might sound crazy/silly but freezer the phone for couple min and see if that will work or freeze it and reinstall the rom. I had that issue with my second HD2 were I HSPL, radio, maglr & flash rom, reboot and would get stuck at splash screen. Searched & searched and found a thread with a member with the same problem I had and resolved it by using ice pack while installing the rom. I gave it a try and it worked for me.
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this might sound crazy/silly but freezer the phone for couple min and see if that will work or freeze it and reinstall the rom. I had that issue with my second HD2 were I HSPL, radio, maglr & flash rom, reboot and would get stuck at splash screen. Searched & searched and found a thread with a member with the same problem I had and resolved it by using ice pack while installing the rom. I gave it a try and it worked for me.
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Hmmm.... That does sound crazy. Lol
So, you mean you put it in the freezer or under an ice pack while flashing or before?
What temperature does the phone have while you flash it? I had an HD2 hat always got stuck flashing. It suffered from freezings due to overheating, and during flashing room temperature was enough to kill it. I put it in the fridge for half an hour and was able to flash it back to stock then(through sd). Got it replaced from my provider.
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What temperature does the phone have while you flash it? I had an HD2 hat always got stuck flashing. It suffered from freezings due to overheating, and during flashing room temperature was enough to kill it. I put it in Thema fridge for half an hour and was able to flash it back to stock then(through sd). Got it replaced from my provider.
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I guess it couldn't hurt. It's just a spare device for me anyway. I didn't notice any heating up on the device at all during flashing this one.
Upon further inspection, I believe this might actually be a T-Mobile 1024Leo based on the model numbers being the same on both my personal TMo HD2 and this dead one. Someone did replace the screen on it at some point.
i put the phone on top of the ice pack while flashing
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i put the phone on top of the ice pack while flashing
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I don't have an ice pack handy, but I did throw it in the freezer for about 30 minutes. I then took it out and put it on a pack of frozen okra. It's flashing via SD right now. Hopefully it actually boots this time...
You have got to be kidding me.......
It worked....
I honestly cannot believe that this just happened....
the flash worked when chilled = good! that's great news.
the flash worked when chilled = oh no! that's terrible! you (almost certainly) have failing hardware.
Fingers crossed it was a one-off corruption that is now fixed, but if i were you id get some rom working and then stay away from flashing anything.
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the flash worked when chilled = good! that's great news.
the flash worked when chilled = oh no! that's terrible! you (almost certainly) have failing hardware.
Fingers crossed it was a one-off corruption that is now fixed, but if i were you id get some rom working and then stay away from flashing anything.
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Well, it's just a backup device. I did confirm that it is the 1024Leo and not the 512 model. I'm going to see if I am able to flash again now. If it hangs again, I might just give it away to someone. We'll see. I might be able to score a TMo unit with a broken screen for cheap and repair this one. Thanks for the help, guys.
Ugh. Back to square one. It is certainly hardware related. I had it sitting next to me plugged in to my laptop. It rebooted to the splash screen again and is now stuck. At least I know how to fix it.
Alright, so I made some time to open this thing up. I found that there was no thermal tape left on the inside above the heatsink for the CPU. I ordered some small extra thermal tape that should arrive in a few days. If it helps at all, I'll update the thread.
I'm not particularly optimistic about this solution, but the alternative is to superheat the CPU to reconnect the disconnected contacts. I'm going for the safer, simpler, and cheaper solution. If this doesn't work, then I will probably just purchase a damaged HD2 and swap the parts.
Here is a link to a similar thread in which they discussed possible solutions to your problem. I hope it helps.
I read that reheating the cpu might work with adding thermal compound to cool it might work. I was gonna do it but i need to buy screen/digitizer first before I open it. Glad it worked out
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Here is a link to a similar thread in which they discussed possible solutions to your problem. I hope it helps.
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Yep. I saw that thread last night. I added some thermal paste to the CPU, but didn't notice a change. Reheating the CPU would be the way to fix it. It's kind of along the same lines as the Red Ring of Death on the Xbox 360. The CPU got so hot at one point, that the solder points to the board were terminated. Cooling the board shrinks the spaces, allowing for the contacts to touch again and work until it reheats.
I'm probably just going to get a replacement main board.
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I read that reheating the cpu might work with adding thermal compound to cool it might work. I was gonna do it but i need to buy screen/digitizer first before I open it. Glad it worked out
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Yea, adding thermal compound helps a bit. It lasts about 40-60 minutes longer than without it. It isn't a permanent fix, though. Once it gets this bad, replacing the board is the safest method to do. Cooling it down will give you enough time to backup your data to transfer over to another device or board.