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Check out this site, it's the guys from Mobile01 again trying to replace the existing HDD to CF card disk, you will see the RAM and HDD in closer view.
Result......? it doesn't work, because after install the CF disk, it needs to proceed to re-install the OS, and the OS is store in the original HDD, guess this guy didn't find a solution into this. However i do believe we will be able to sort this out in the near future.
Also replacing the RAM is currently not possible, there are no 2G module out there for sell yet, I guess we need to wait for the Hardware to catch up.
Go and check out the pic in this link:
http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=5414
how about cloning the disk to CF first ?
Maybe use a clone proggy to clone the actual HDD to the CF card first, then mount / solder it ?
Maybe i'm too dumbed down by windows OS'es, but if you clone the HDD bit for bit to the CF card, my guess is that it will boot straight away.
Maybe one needs to fiddle a little with the MBR, or the device ID, but that should be it really.
Please keep us posted.
Are the installation files on the harddisk?
I read in another thread that the installation files are in ROM soldered to the motherboard and that all you need to do after installing a new harddisk is to press FN F3 at bootup to restore Vista. This might be wrong and I'd actually wonder what the hidden HD partition would be for if it should be true.
Anyway, if they didn't make any mistakes installing the CF card, they should be able to install Windows from a USB drive.
However, have you seen what they installed instead of the 40GB HD? A 8GB CF card. This will never be enough to hold Vista, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the cause for their problems, the installation routine might just balk at "insufficient space".
As the linked website is using Chinese (I guess, or is it Japanese, Korean, ...) characters and language, somebody able to read this would have to evaluate what they are doing.
Swop hdd
The problem with swopping the hard drive is it has since been discovered that the drive is artificially sized down to protect a HIDDEN partition using special features of IDE drives in conjunction with the BIOS.
I'm aware of no program on windows that will clone this special hidden area as the drive removes it and it is only visible on boot. However linux can see there is a hidden partition but i'm unsure not knowing much about linux whether it can clone it.
If you simply swop out the hard drive you will lose the ability to FN+F3 on boot to restore the image.
I would suggest therefore you do the following before the swop out.
1. Boot Shift
2. FN+F3
3. Do a full factory restore
4. Switch off when directed
5. Attached external USB CDROM/DVD drive
6. Use BartPE
7. Power on Shift and boot immediately to BartPe
8. Once booted insert a usb hard drive / key using the 3-way hub, so you have the cd and hdd connected via USB
8. Ghost / clone the drive from C: to your external hard drive / pen
You now have ghost image that you can restore to on the new hard drive (ie. not a FN+F3 restore process but a CLEAN ready to initial boot installation of Vista).
Regards
Blitz
The vista installation files are in a hidden partition on the hard drive.
This is why the 40gb drive shows as a 34.2Gb drive.
mw65719 said:
I read in another thread that the installation files are in ROM soldered to the motherboard and that all you need to do after installing a new harddisk is to press FN F3 at bootup to restore Vista. This might be wrong and I'd actually wonder what the hidden HD partition would be for if it should be true.
Anyway, if they didn't make any mistakes installing the CF card, they should be able to install Windows from a USB drive.
However, have you seen what they installed instead of the 40GB HD? A 8GB CF card. This will never be enough to hold Vista, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the cause for their problems, the installation routine might just balk at "insufficient space".
As the linked website is using Chinese (I guess, or is it Japanese, Korean, ...) characters and language, somebody able to read this would have to evaluate what they are doing.
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The reason why they install 8G CF card is for faster read/write speed, and i guess it will also decrease battery usage since it's not mechanic moving like the original HDD.
Thanks very much wu5262 - I fully understand why they want to use a CF card instead of the harddisk .
I was pointing at the meager 8GB size they picked.
If you want to install Vista, use at least a 16GB card. If you can get your hands on one, use a 32GB card (admittedly not so cheap). For an example: http://www.amazon.de/Components-32GB-CompactFlash-HighSpeed-Karte/dp/B00162ZOPW.
I had a Transcend External HDD (SJ18M TS120GSJ18M, inside 120GB PATA 1.8 inch HDD) from last summer, but only before some days I had the time to try the change. But I have a problem, the Bios recognizes the disk as 120GB, but when you try to boot, it says "Primary Master Hard Disk Error". I boot from an Acronis Bootable Flash Disk 16GB, where I Have my image od Vista with all my progs, but either the Acronis SWs do not Recognize the HDD (Toshiba MK1231GAL). The message is "Failed to read from the sector 0 of hard disk 0". I had understood that something was wrong from the summer, because all the Acronis SWs on my Notebook did not recognized the External Transcend HDD, eventhouth you see it in Windows (format, make partitions, copy, delete things). Have you managed to boot any Operating System from that HDD (after you put it inside HTC Shift) ??
See something interesting, on some sites as i was searching on Google, it says that MK1231GAL but with Part Number HDD1813 (like mine) is ATA7.
But on Toshiba Site, It says that MK1231GAL but with Part Number HDD1811 (not like mine) is ATA3-ATA4 compatible.
Does anyone know what is going on to inform me, please ??
I tried to root my nook touch with both methods in this forum, but now I have the device locked on the screen "rooted forever."
before rooting my nook I made a backup copy, which is coming of 1,962,934,272 bytes, also the backup files and folders are written in strange symbols, there are no letters.
Then I formatted the sdcard and also the internal memory to the nook, and now when I connect to the pc nothing happens, everything stopped, all dead! (on windows)
I also tried with the image "nookrestore.img" but nothing.
When I insert the memory with an image loaded with win32imager I hold down the power button, the screen refresh and then nothing happens, no microsd does not turn off either.
How can I reflash the internal memory of the nook?
Please help me, I would not throw it after about 1 week!
I used an 8GB Class 4 microSD card and a reader.
matteodica said:
I tried to root my nook touch with both methods in this forum, but now I have the device locked on the screen "rooted forever."
before rooting my nook I made a backup copy, which is coming of 1,962,934,272 bytes, also the backup files and folders are written in strange symbols, there are no letters.
Then I formatted the sdcard and also the internal memory to the nook, and now when I connect to the pc nothing happens, everything stopped, all dead! (on windows)
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Go figure, you removed everything, including loader
matteodica said:
I also tried with the image "nookrestore.img" but nothing.
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It's not possible to trigger factory restore when you erased the loader, boot and restore image..
matteodica said:
When I insert the memory with an image loaded with win32imager I hold down the power button, the screen refresh and then nothing happens, no microsd does not turn off either.
How can I reflash the internal memory of the nook?
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Write Noogie.img to a SD card and boot your NST with that.
Then use the instructions found here to write your backup back to the NST (second half of the post)
Read and understand that post before continuing, then make sure you have the correct tools (MiniTool Partition Wizard & Roadkil's free DiskImager)
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matteodica said:
before rooting my nook I made a backup copy, which is coming of 1,962,934,272 bytes, also the backup files and folders are written in strange symbols, there are no letters.
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uh-oh .. I missed this part!
What method did you use to backup your NST?
For the above method to work your backup needs to be a image created with DiskImager. If you used some other method you're most likely hosed!
Hello, thanks for the help.
I did follow up jokala's tutorial and I used Roadkil's DiskImage 1.6.
I restored the backup on the memory nook properly, always with Roadkil's DiskImage 1.6, now when I connect the device to my PC (Windows 7 64bit) I can see a partition with "miniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition", the file system is "fat32 "Capacity = 1.83gb, used = 1.62 gb 214.31 mb = unused, type = primary, status = active, but the name of the partition is" k! € ° Å ¡Ã Â ³ aS {"
Is normal to have this label? and fat32 partition?
ps.
apparently with Windows 7 64-bit there is a bug that prevents the writing of 'file.img on usb device, error 5 sector 0 and I solved with this program
matteodica said:
Hello, thanks for the help.
I did follow up jokala's tutorial and I used Roadkil's DiskImage 1.6.
I restored the backup on the memory nook properly, always with Roadkil's DiskImage 1.6, now when I connect the device to my PC (Windows 7 64bit) I can see a partition with "miniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition", the file system is "fat32 "Capacity = 1.83gb, used = 1.62 gb 214.31 mb = unused, type = primary, status = active, but the name of the partition is" k! € ° Å ¡Ã Â ³ aS {"
Is normal to have this label? and fat32 partition?
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No, you should see 7 partitions.
Again, how did you make your backup?
matteodica said:
ps.
apparently with Windows 7 64-bit there is a bug that prevents the writing of 'file.img on usb device, error 5 sector 0 and I solved with this program
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This has to be old info, both my laptops are Win7 64bit and I've had no problems with using DiskImager to write to the NST with them.
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Again, how did you make your backup?
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I formatted the microSD format, the image I wrote "noogie.img on microSD with" win32diskimager "rather than" DiskImage 1.6 ", because I could not write on the memory cards for the problem that I wrote in my previous post (" error # 5 ") and then placed in the nook, I connected the device to the PC and turned it on.
I've seen "rooted forever" on the screen of the computer nook and I created the file "backup.img" with "DiskImage 1.6".
This is the procedure I did, maybe I was wrong to use two different programs?
I'm reading that i can rebuild the partition table, and can be modified to have more storage space link.
I'm thinking of this solution, recreate the partitions and copy files and folders manually by an original copy of the operating system of the Nook, but I do not know what are the data that must be unique.
What are the data that I need to recover?
Moved to General, didn't seem development related.
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Ok I was able to solve the problem, with the help of the indispensable Ros87, who reconstructed the image of my backups corrupted, without him I threw my nook.
summary:
In practice I have formatted the partition of the nook and my backup was corrupted, so when the device connected to the PC with the microsd "Noogie" nothing happened.
Solution:
I opened the nook (it is very easy to open it) and I disconnected the battery to make sure it was off, then I connected to the PC a couple of hours to charge the battery is discharged during the night of all, I do not know but because the day after my nook had completely drained the battery!
just connected to the PC (Windows 7 64bit) I have heard the typical sound that windows makes when you connect an external device, but I did not see the device in the Device / storage devices, but with "MiniTool Partition wizard" I saw the partition of the nook, so I deleted (with "MiniTool Partition Wizard") and followed the guide to restore the backup image on windows, in the end it was fine!
I'm happy!
matteodica said:
Ok I was able to solve the problem, with the help of the indispensable Ros87, who reconstructed the image of my backups corrupted, without him I threw my nook.
summary:
In practice I have formatted the partition of the nook and my backup was corrupted, so when the device connected to the PC with the microsd "Noogie" nothing happened.
Solution:
I opened the nook (it is very easy to open it) and I disconnected the battery to make sure it was off, then I connected to the PC a couple of hours to charge the battery is discharged during the night of all, I do not know but because the day after my nook had completely drained the battery!
just connected to the PC (Windows 7 64bit) I have heard the typical sound that windows makes when you connect an external device, but I did not see the device in the Device / storage devices, but with "MiniTool Partition wizard" I saw the partition of the nook, so I deleted (with "MiniTool Partition Wizard") and followed the guide to restore the backup image on windows, in the end it was fine!
I'm happy!
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Where the heck is the thanks button :X
Decided to try a rooted NST again so I backed up my non-rooted image using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15115162&postcount=2.
Didn't like the rooted experience so I tried to restore using the instructions above, got as far as deleting all of the partitions. When I tried to restore the image using Win32diskimager I realised that my Win7 laptop was no longer reading the nook. I've tried other PCs but I've not had any look in getting any of them to recognise the NST.
So my NST is now stuck on Rooted Forever and is not recogised by my computer so I can't restore my backup. Any help would be appreciated.
Tried plugging it in to the laptop this morning and pressing the Power and n button together. The Rooted Forever went away, so the screen is now blank and the light that was previously showing only green turned to orange.
Continuous pressing of the Power button causes the light to turn green, screen to flash, then turn back orange. NST still not being recognised by the laptop however. Help?
I'm unclear on exactly what you did.
In any case, there is almost no reason to ever delete partitions on anything.
Put noogie on an SD. Insert SD. Boot. Connect on USB.
Use Win32DiskImager to write your backup onto the Nook.
Remove SD. Boot.
Thanks for your reply. I deleted the partitions because of
To restore your backup:
(Boot Nook with the noogie sd)
Run Partition Wizard and delete all partitions on your Nook. Careful in disk selection here, wiping the wrong drive could be catastrophic! This is required, because DiskImager won't write to a partitioned drive.
Okay I tried what you said. I'm seeing Removable Disk in My Computer but clicking it gives me Please insert a disk into Removable Disk. Win32diskimager is showing no devices.
Win32diskimager doesn't care at all what partitions are on your device.
It writes physical data onto a device.
How is it that the Window (File) Explorer is showing a drive letter and W32DI can't see it?
Is the Nook showing "Rooted Forever"?
I believe noogie does two mounts but the second one is inactive.
Check your desktop for all drive letters. Use "Disk Management".
Yes nook is showing Rooted Forever.
In Disk Management, I'm seeing 'Disk 1 Removable 1.83 Online' and it shows 1.83 Unallocated. And 'Disk 2 Removable (F No Media'. (F is the letter drive I'm seeing in Windows File Explorer.
Well, that's your problem, deleting the partitions stops Windows from recognizing it enough to give it a letter.
In disk management see if you can assign it a drive letter (on Disk1)
If you can't, do a quick format in disk management.
It doesn't matter what kind or how as long as you can assign a drive letter when you are done.
Yes, that was exactly the problem. Restored backup and it's up and running now.
Thanks for all the help, now I know what not to do lol.
I downloaded the torrent that was uploaded to this forum with the bin files, ran the DD commands, but when I do, the drive becomes inaccessible. Not sure what is going on. The SSD is a Samsung 500gb 870 EVO. I'm using Ubuntu for the process. Should I use a different version of Linux? I formatted the drive to GPT/FAT32. Also tried GPT/EXT4. I'll upload a picture in the replies of what the folder shows me after the process.
Also, my Shield drive died, so I can't just clone it, unless it's possible for someone to send an img/iso of theirs, then I can use HDD Raw Cloner or whatever it's called on Windows. But I don't know if someone else's img would work.
Just tried it on Mint. Same issue. SSD just disappears off the devices list as soon as the DD command goes through.
This is what I can see before the drive becomes inaccessible. Says 14 gigs are the size of the files, but then it says 32.8kb used. Makes no sense.
Capitalized the C in sdC. No error this time, terminal didn't say there was no more space. Drive didn't disappear or become inaccessible. But there's no files on the drive.
Oh and I tried removing the 1 from sdc1, seems to make no difference as long as C is capitalized.