The purpose of this thread is to inform potential ICS users on the features that will be lost after moving from HC to ICS.
The intention is to help users make an informed decision on whether to update.
Please help by listing what features are missing in the ICS update, compared to Honeycomb.
Features Lost after ICS update
1.) XBOX/PS3 controller support
2.) ??
Um... how about... stability? lol
Loved that home screen widget arrangement setup the way in which u could view the entire homescreens in a 3d like way plus I also miss some extra status bar actions.
OTA rooting
Easy way to root your device the best thing I lost in ICS is OTA rooting my device I had to used viperMOD prime to root my device it's work fine but its change my device to forced it root and it's not a OTA war
klau1 said:
1.) XBOX/PS3 controller support
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i still can use my dualshock3 wireless without installing any apps
i think it's only xbox controller that don't work anymore
*sorry for my english
kiats said:
i still can use my dualshock3 wireless without installing any apps
i think it's only xbox controller that don't work anymore
*sorry for my english
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+1 - PS3 controller works fine with ICS - you need to connect it via USB cable and use it like that for about a minute. Then, when you disconnect it, you can reconnect via bluetooth by pushing the middle PS button....
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Goatshocker said:
Um... how about... stability? lol
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Going on 100 hours uptime on mine, on ICS. Plus, it runs a hell of a lot smoother.
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miketoasty said:
Going on 100 hours uptime on mine, on ICS. Plus, it runs a hell of a lot smoother.
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Same here, had 250+ hours up time before I manually rebooted... And I use my TF all the time, for games, movies, music, note taking etc... My other TFs have a random reboot about once a week, hardly call that UN stable. Over all, ics has been fantastic for me and my 3 TFs, and considering that ics is still in its infancy, I can't wait for future releases... I think its stability will give ios a run for its money.
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I think its stability will give ios a run for its money.
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What makes you say that? Are there any stability issues with iOS? Also, it's not all that relevant how stable iOS is for Asus Transformer users.
It's great that your 2 TF's are stable but you can't deny that's it not like that for a good amount of people.
It took 2 HC updates to get Android stable on my TF but then it was rock solid. I like the performance of ICS and don't miss anything from HC. If only ICS were more stable (for tablets).
ICS might be in its infancy, but it won't have any chance of maturity. The next major version will be announced soon and manufacturers will turn to new devices for it. Old devices will be abandoned like usual and we'll be stuck with an infant ICS.
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Going on 100 hours uptime on mine, on ICS. Plus, it runs a hell of a lot smoother.
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So what? My N7B ran for over 500h on HC without a hickup, eventually it died because I forgot to plug the charger in before I went to bed.
The fact remains, ICS is plagued by random reboots on the TF, while HC was close to rock solid.
Therefore its less stable than HC, no matter what side of the coin youre looking at.
No way to hide the status bar. I would like to be able to use the entire screen for watching videos like I could with honeycomb.
I miss Voodoo sound module support, and it seems to me that the global max volume (integrated speakers) has been reduced since ICS upgrade.
It looks like what most people are complaining about here aren't what is missing from ICS, it is simply what developers have not updated or developed to be compatible with ICS that they were used to using in HoneyComb. Like the two posters above- Voodoo sound is in the kernel..(barring the paid version) it was not something that every user could use in HC now it is lost in ICS, simply the voodoo modules changed when they updated and supercurio has yet to get it working enough to release, but it will be soon enough.
The other poster said that he misses being able to hide the status bar..it is possible (I think there is already an app that does this now), and certain ROMs can have this function added later as these commands are discovered/developed further. Example, Revolver could disable the status bar from the power menu, and AOKP for ICS (on my phone, haven't tried the TF101 version yet) can hide or show the status bar (my phone has integrated soft buttons, so showing the status bar is a new thing for it).
The main thing that HAS been lost are certain APIs that google realized had compromising code in it that would allow, for example, an advertisement in a webview application to access your contacts, data, etc. So what it is missing, in the end, might be a good thing for your security..
yeah, but what about the smooth 720p playback? previously the Transformer handles 720p youtube content very well, nowadays it just stutter on heavy scenes. Even 720p mp4 doesnt play as smooth as last time. How i miss those days when I watch 720p TV series and movies on my TF
Voodoo sound but ICS is so smooth, especially surfing the Net.
Using Teameos ROM and will never go back to Honeycomb.
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How much smoother is ics than honeycomb?
1) Is portrait mode lag gone(A lot laggier on portrait than landscape on honeycomb)
2) Is the browser as smooth as the ipad's now?
3) Scrolling between pages on the homescreen still laggy or smooth?
I didn't use the ics much so I don't remember how the portrait lag is but yes. The rom was smoother and it is still in beta. When ics is a finished product it will blow honeycomb out of the water
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It isnt iPad smooth but ICS removed a lot of the lag.
I wonder if they fixed the HDMI audio issue with ICS?
Please?
Obvious troll is obvious.
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I don't think it's fixed yet, but soon.
And regarding the Honeycomb lag...ICS is supper smooth...iPad smooth as far as I'm concerned. Super fast and smooth.
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I don't think it's fixed yet, but soon.
And regarding the Honeycomb lag...ICS is supper smooth...iPad smooth as far as I'm concerned. Super fast and smooth.
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I agree. The nightly rom is super fast and smooth. It takes only 30 seconds to open my xoom now where in Morey rom it took more than 3 minutes!!
I hope the final Tiamat Ics rom will be a champion.
I'm pretty shocked at just how big of a jump ICS was on my Xoom... I'm on a Xyboard now (unfortunately) so it's gonna be a while before I have ICS It's also likely gonna be a long time before I even can get root, I've already tried every method I could find, I'm just not experienced enough to figure out exploits on my own...
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I'm pretty shocked at just how big of a jump ICS was on my Xoom... I'm on a Xyboard now (unfortunately) so it's gonna be a while before I have ICS It's also likely gonna be a long time before I even can get root, I've already tried every method I could find, I'm just not experienced enough to figure out exploits on my own...
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Having had a xoom and made the Jump to the Xyboard, is there a "must have it" difference over the xoom?
Bought my 4G xoom, then weeks later the Xyboard comes out... Tech blues
XGear said:
Having had a xoom and made the Jump to the Xyboard, is there a "must have it" difference over the xoom?
Bought my 4G xoom, then weeks later the Xyboard comes out... Tech blues
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he got one by mistake insurance sent him xyboard instead although I'm sure he preferred keeping his xoom
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I just tried to restore my Honeycomb backup to be on a more "complete" ROM until ICS is more complete, but found I could NOT stand the lag. Latest EOS nightly is leaps and bounds better than honeycomb. Maybe its my Gnex that makes my honeycomb Xoom feel slow.
Even this beta release of ics has made me love the Xoom, I liked it with honeycomb but its a whole new level with ics
The Xoom feels like a brand new tablet with Ice Cream Sandwich. It definitely makes me happier than my experiences with Honeycomb and the browser.
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The Xoom feels like a brand new tablet with Ice Cream Sandwich. It definitely makes me happier than my experiences with Honeycomb and the browser.
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This ^
Although I don't think ICS is finished for tablets.
A lot of the swipe gestures that you think will work don't
And the UI is a different experience each app
Can anyone tell me if battery life improved at all on is? Not that its bad, now, I'm just curious and I use the camera so I don't want to put it on my xoom yet
I have noticed that the keyboard lag in Javascript forms is gone in ICS
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Can anyone tell me if battery life improved at all on is? Not that its bad, now, I'm just curious and I use the camera so I don't want to put it on my xoom yet
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The only ICS build I had bad battery life with was one of the first straight AOSP ones to show up here on XDA. Been using EOS nightlies for a week or so now and have been getting the same great battery life I've always gotten from my Xoom.
No battery issues here either. As of Nightly build 17, it will not connect to a wireless AP with a hidden SSID.
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... it will not connect to a wireless AP with a hidden SSID.
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I had this issue with Tiamat ROM so not sure if it is ICS...
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No battery issues here either. As of Nightly build 17, it will not connect to a wireless AP with a hidden SSID.
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This is an Android thing.
The problem with having hidden SSIDs in your known network list is that you have to query to see if the network is there every single time you scan, which sucks down battery like a pig. The Google engineers decided early on not to support hidden for this reason.
All arguments about whether it's a valid means of securing a network aside, you can hack it in by modifying the supplicant conf, but it will impact battery.
Super duper fast, no issues, quick boot, ahhhhhh it's snappy as, it's perfect c: dunno what yous are whining about
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Super duper fast, no issues, quick boot, ahhhhhh it's snappy as, it's perfect c: dunno what yous are whining about
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they seek attention...thats all.
ICS is a dream,well put there sir.
the only true problem is the screen responsiveness but i can live with that as it is the first release.
its super fast,super smooth,at last i have a working browser that loads in the speed of light even the most bad written web pages full of ads which of course i have disabled with adfree and generally its ten times better than any laptop and netbook.
hardware keyboard is so responsive,no lag at all as in the terrible hc and apps load like hell.
i am in love with my tablet at last and yes,now i see why tablets are the future.
with HC i had my tablet closed like for a month....
Some of more "simple" people in this world get more hyped up the longer they wait for something, in the end, there is no way they would be happy with what they end up with, so much so they can't even see the good stuff anymore.
Im in love
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I never waited for ICS on my TF. I've already had ICS on my phone for a while. I knew what it was going to be like.
After getting ICS today on my TF, I can objectively say that it's nothing to get your panties wet about, and it never was. It's a minor update at best.
Your tablet must have been really badly optimized and cluttered with junk if updating to ICS made it "work like a dream".
If you notice that much of a difference in performance, the problem wasn't the OS. It was you.
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The upgrade to the browser alone qualifies it as a major upgrade, its gone from a slow buggy mess to something that is a joy to use. Just being able to type this reply without the 3 second lag for every key press is a breath of fresh air
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The upgrade to the browser alone qualifies it as a major upgrade, its gone from a slow buggy mess to something that is a joy to use. Just being able to type this reply without the 3 second lag for every key press is a breath of fresh air
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thank you (raising hand at the same time)
I must say that I initially was disappointed. I expected a lot of user interface changes and a heap of new functions. But got disappointed when it looked just like before.
But annoying lags are gone, I discover small improvements all the time and I am beginning to really appreciate this update.
My favourite new feature so far is app folders on the desktop.
LWP is useless so the ones getting a slower device because of it is just getting what they deserve. Bling should be on your girlfriends fingers, not on your tablet.
i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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I read somewhere that ICS is supposed to be a major upgrade for phones Android 2.X. Android 3.X is for tablets only. Android 4 is a merge of these two strategies, therefor the changes are bigger for phones than tablets.
I think the article summed up that ICS is a way to bring the Honeycomb upgrade to phones.
+1 ICS is greeeat...
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Works perfectly here.
Time to download the chrome browser
Dream Indeed
I have been aboard the android train since my Galaxy s.
Used to run darky's roms then switched to paulforde's 4.2. This already made me feel ICS really is a major update.
Got my EEpad about 3 months ago. And switched to GnuFabio's Revolver rom, which I loved. Yesterday I flashed the Full WW ICS after only wiping cache and Dalvik, booted into ICS, booted into recovery and the installed the update over it. And I must say, this is my best Android experience so far. Especially during swiping through screens I always noticed quite a few frames were being dropped. And occasional keyboard lag.. also sometimes the memory management seemed to play tricks on me from time to time.
But so far this really is feeling like a dream even though my device is running stock and used to run @1.4Ghz. I am loving this !
I'm really digging ICS as well. At first I found it a bit clunky and did have trouble with the screen responsiveness but after a few hours of use it seemed fade away and is now snappier than ever.
My only complaint is with the browser and the backwards step they took removing the ability to change the default User Agent permanently. Same thing with Chrome Beta. Why make a fancy browser only to have it display stuff meant for a 3-5 inch display? I'm not too upset as I'm sure it will be one of the first things they fix in the next major update(s) to ICS.
Maybe i had low expectations, but this update has really impressed me; noticeably faster, not blindingly so, but faster nonetheless eg. the 'recent apps' button - before you'd have a 1-2 delay, now it's instant.
The browser is massively improved, no more blocky rendering when scrolling through xda, no typing lag, no random crashes, much more stable. Other little things you keep noticing: drag 'n drop files in the files manager; ctrl+shift+arrows to select words etc.
Sure, there's nothing earth shattering about ICS - but for me, the transformer now works like I always imagined it should work.
I love ICS also on my tf101!!
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I'm happy with the Update. The Tablet feels more responsive now.
I agree its working great.
Can actually use the stock browser now with xda lol
Only 1 bug so far... changing to panorama mode kills the camera.. no biggie
Another happy customer here. 2 random reboots. But its running how it should
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i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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yes i totally agree. ICS is what HC should have been.... Well at least were finally here..I'm loving my TF even more
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Works perfectly here.
Time to download the chrome browser
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chrome is nothing to write home about....not as fast as opera. i was really looking for it to replace Opera but i guess not. Everything else is much faster now on ICS
So guys I was asking myself "is it worth flashing?". Why you ask? Well because if I took a look in the development section and it doesn't look like any of the current roms out are stable and they all seem to have many know issues. So I would like to know what you have flashed and how you like the experience compares to stock rom?
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I have flashed a bunch of roms on this tab. Most of them are stable now. ALL of them running ics are better than the honeycomb touchwiz that comes pre installed. The only caveat I say to you, is that the camera still isn't working on the roms I've been using as my dailies. (Aokp and Nightlies) If that's a deal killer for you, then stay away from the ics builds for now. But I can tell you as someone who has a 2 year + old Droid Incredible running ics AND this tab running ics, I can never go back. Its just THAT good. Especially on this tab where it Truly shows off the big improvements on the OS.
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I'm running a stock mod but the difference is pretty huge. No more constant reboots or hangs. Much faster too. Not using any special kernels either. The ROM I'm using has working GPS and camera. Haven't touched any roms with broken cam/GPS.
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I'm running a stock mod but the difference is pretty huge. No more constant reboots or hangs. Much faster too. Not using any special kernels either. The ROM I'm using has working GPS and camera. Haven't touched any roms with broken cam/GPS.
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Can I ask which ROM you're using? (I thought there wasn't an ICS ROM with working camera...?)
He never said nor implied that he was using an ICS rom...
Ah OK. (Just realised you're right)
I'm using overcome 2.3.1. It's not ics. It's pretty nice. Went from multiple daily reboots to 3 or 4days of uptime. I use it a lot for reading, browsing, netflix, remote mgmt of servers and it holds up well. I bought 3 Samsung docks and have it hooked up to my home theater for music via hdmi, on my nightstand (ditched the tv in the bedroom) and another in my office. I wouldn't have been able to keep it without a rom. Give it a shot. Take your time and read up, it's pretty simple. I'm kinda pissed they made such a great tablet and put such a horrible buggy os on it.
I saw all the comments here suggesting to throw a rom on it to improve performance but I didn't put much stock in it. It's not an exaggeration. You have to ditch the tw launcher too. I'm using Go's tablet edition. I guarantee you will not go back to stock. I chose overcome because it's really stable. No point trying to escape bugs and using a buggy rom.
Getting off my soapbox now. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Yes that was one of my major concerns of ics. I'm running dark sides evolution 2 beta 3 on my sgs2. But when I came here to read about the 10.1 ics versions I was kind of sad. Because like it was said the 10.1 is awesome but cannot be used on stock w/o mods. I really just want to get on a stable release that doesn't have this issue where you could only charge your tab with the wall charger. I need a different kernal.
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I'm using overcome 2.3.1. It's not ics. It's pretty nice. Went from multiple daily reboots to 3 or 4days of uptime. I use it a lot for reading, browsing, netflix, remote mgmt of servers and it holds up well. I bought 3 Samsung docks and have it hooked up to my home theater for music via hdmi, on my nightstand (ditched the tv in the bedroom) and another in my office. I wouldn't have been able to keep it without a rom. Give it a shot. Take your time and read up, it's pretty simple. I'm kinda pissed they made such a great tablet and put such a horrible buggy os on it.
I saw all the comments here suggesting to throw a rom on it to improve performance but I didn't put much stock in it. It's not an exaggeration. You have to ditch the tw launcher too. I'm using Go's tablet edition. I guarantee you will not go back to stock. I chose overcome because it's really stable. No point trying to escape bugs and using a buggy rom.
Getting off my soapbox now. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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It's use go launcher too, but what I'm curious about is what you're using for server management? And app or just the browser? I have both cpanel and directadmin panels on my servers and just been using the browsers.
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With Task v14, I feel that the Galaxy tab is vastly improved from the stock bloatware.
I don't really care about ICS on the Galaxy. Task 14 is so good, I don't see ICS as improving much. I have ICS running on HP Touchpad and Kindle Fire, right now.
it's nice, but IMHO not really worth all of the hype over an optimized GB ROM. YMMV.
Task v 14 is really great, highly recommend it over any ics roms.
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Yes that was one of my major concerns of ics. I'm running dark sides evolution 2 beta 3 on my sgs2. But when I came here to read about the 10.1 ics versions I was kind of sad. Because like it was said the 10.1 is awesome but cannot be used on stock w/o mods. I really just want to get on a stable release that doesn't have this issue where you could only charge your tab with the wall charger. I need a different kernal.
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Yeah I'm not even using any special kernel and have no probs charging.
I'm actually happy with my stock rooted GS2. The only problems I've had are few and far between and solved with a reboot.
I looked at all the major roms on the dev page and Overcome seemed to be the safest stable rom.
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It's use go launcher too, but what I'm curious about is what you're using for server management? And app or just the browser? I have both cpanel and directadmin panels on my servers and just been using the browsers.
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I use pocketcloud and terminal apps to access vnc, rdc and ssh sessions. I'm not using browsers at all except for some app/service config panels that require it and even those I mainly use remotely via vlc or rdc.
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So guys I was asking myself "is it worth flashing?". Why you ask? Well because if I took a look in the development section and it doesn't look like any of the current roms out are stable and they all seem to have many know issues. So I would like to know what you have flashed and how you like the experience compares to stock rom?
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I think your info may be outdated there are a few very and very fast roms out there. I use galaxy task rom and it is very smooth really like night and day over stock.
Perhaps what might come off as unstable are the continuing work by the devs to keep improving the rom
Cm9 is excellent as well despite camera not working
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That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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Yeah I couldn't over the camera and gps problems either. The way some people dismiss them bothers me.
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That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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To be clear only the ICS rom have the camera issue. The HC roms lile galaxy task dont
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my $.02: My use-case for my tablet is almost entirely at home. I have the Wi-Fi only model, so I don't do a lot of "mobile" stuff with it. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone which I generally carry everywhere.
What I thought: As a techie, I want everything to be fully working just because, and as a result I cannot accept a tablet without a working camera!
Real Life: I use my tablet for IM, web browsing, reading comics, and playing games, generally around the house or while commuting. That's actually it. Number of times I did a video chat on my tablet: 1. Number of times I actually wanted to video chat on my tablet: maybe 2. Because I work with a Galaxy Nexus all the time, having the same OS & ROM on both devices is honestly nicer / easier / more lazy-friendly. Its honestly pretty slick to have Chrome syncing across my computers, my phone, and my tablet.
I recently tried to go back to Honeycomb since I once again thought "gee maybe I should use the camera on my tablet". Honeycomb just feels like ICS with training wheels on it I really don't like it as much. This probably as much a placebo effect as anything. Also, the camera isn't as good as my Galaxy Nexus or my actual camera, and I feel like a douche holding my tablet up to take a picture. Would being able to Skype on my tablet be cool? Yes. Would I use it that often? No.
I'm going back to AOKP damnit. I can deal with a non-working camera for a while.
And GPS??? My device doesn't have mobile data, so it really doesn't matter to me that much, even though I thought it would.
Bottom Line: You can back all your stuff up, and you're not out anything, so why not try it?
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my $.02: My use-case for my tablet is almost entirely at home. I have the Wi-Fi only model, so I don't do a lot of "mobile" stuff with it. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone which I generally carry everywhere.
What I thought: As a techie, I want everything to be fully working just because, and as a result I cannot accept a tablet without a working camera!
Real Life: I use my tablet for IM, web browsing, reading comics, and playing games, generally around the house or while commuting. That's actually it. Number of times I did a video chat on my tablet: 1. Number of times I actually wanted to video chat on my tablet: maybe 2. Because I work with a Galaxy Nexus all the time, having the same OS & ROM on both devices is honestly nicer / easier / more lazy-friendly. Its honestly pretty slick to have Chrome syncing across my computers, my phone, and my tablet.
I recently tried to go back to Honeycomb since I once again thought "gee maybe I should use the camera on my tablet". Honeycomb just feels like ICS with training wheels on it I really don't like it as much. This probably as much a placebo effect as anything. Also, the camera isn't as good as my Galaxy Nexus or my actual camera, and I feel like a douche holding my tablet up to take a picture. Would being able to Skype on my tablet be cool? Yes. Would I use it that often? No.
I'm going back to AOKP damnit. I can deal with a non-working camera for a while.
And GPS??? My device doesn't have mobile data, so it really doesn't matter to me that much, even though I thought it would.
Bottom Line: You can back all your stuff up, and you're not out anything, so why not try it?
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i feel exactly the same, i just migrated to AOKP last night, and so far the benefits of it being a lot "zippier" is good. I do a lot of typing and multitasking viewing pdf and docs etc is a better experience on ICS than HC.....
music? camera? i have my handy SGS for that.......
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What ggps problems? I just got a good fix (8 used) inside! I'd say the gps is working pretty well
Ok so for those that have been able to upgrade to ICS (P6800 owners) what are your toughts?
Now this is what i am looking for:
A) What you like
B) Don't like
C) What would you like to have seen included but wasn't (if anything)
And since having the update what are you looking forward to doing that you couldn't or wouldn't with HC.
Please don't post any issues you have after updating, that is not what this post is intended for.
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Well i don't think that i don't like anything but i haven't really found something that is faulty. It is definitely faster as i immediately noticed that it took less ram, than honey comb, to run. Feels pretty fast with go launcher HD to me and i love it completely. Although i thought that there would be camera improvements as tab 2 7.0 has the same 3 mega pixel camera but does 1080p recording. So i thought that it might be done with tab 7.7 as well with an ics upgrade.
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Well i don't think that i don't like anything but i haven't really found something that is faulty. It is definitely faster as i immediately noticed that it took less ram, than honey comb, to run. Feels pretty fast with go launcher HD to me and i love it completely. Although i thought that there would be camera improvements as tab 2 7.0 has the same 3 mega pixel camera but does 1080p recording. So i thought that it might be done with tab 7.7 as well with an ics upgrade.
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Yea 1080p would have been a nice addition, but 720p is still good.
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Well I love it to and made it up with Samsung:
- first with ICS that tablet really rocks it already did but now it's almost perfect
- smoother faster it seems especially the OOM killer seems more smart, and less memory used it seems
- no more problem with Itap rdp right click with bt mouse
- something I never mentioned. : I developed or try to develop a clone of pronto remote and debug using adb wireless
With HC I could not connect via adb on the computer using ethernet to adb wireless wifi due to packet loss... So had to disable ethernet and enable wifi. With ics no longer this issue...
- I used to have frequent sleep of death for the moment none
- I listen radio everyday through tunein somehow at around 1pm HC always rebooted by itself. Never bothered to figure out why... Now this no longer happen...
- no wifi issue ( some ICS user reported problems). I never had neither with HC except sleep of death or reboot that might be related to wifi?. I use Friztbox 7340 AP.
- my 100+ aps. Seems to all works (of course did not test deeply since yesterday) except gmd gesture control to hide the control bar
-once in a while but quite frequently using HC my EXCHANGE account would vanish...had to re-create every time... waiting to see on this one...Could be my remote application leaking....
So all in all very very happy with this tab and Samsung... Patience was what I missed
- I did wipe and did not have any problem if we refer to brick bug... But you never know...
What I like less
- dialog box theme gray without frame around
- it seems Samy addressed bur-in doing the bar black now....
I preferred it before and I don't have noticeable burn-in ( since march and extensive uses) except using color filter and brightness turned all down then I see slight yellow discoloration... Nothing to complain for me as the TAB HW screen etc are just so great IMO and outweight for me this small detail.
Seriously the TAB rocks for me...
Can you imagine 7.7 with quad core and dream about a 1080p SAMOLED display in a 7'7 TAB for me the perfect size!
I guess I continue buying Samsung.... Despite some of my previous comments... Waiting for the ICS on 8.9 now for my girl friend
Thanks and cheers
A now happy again Samsun tab 7.7 user
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My first impression
i installed the firmware through odin. it was not available on kies. so if i have to claim warranty ( god forbid ) then i guess i have to flash my country's HC firmware back
what i liked is that it is noticibly faster than HC. Apps load faster. lag is less. starting button lag is less. there have been no FC's and almost all of my games are compatible.
what i dislike or rather disappointed is that it does not look or feel much different than HC. no added functionality except Face unlock. what i would have liked is some features of S3.
i am running this for almost 24 hrs now. battery usage is same as HC.
I like that this device is actually usable now. I think I'm going to use it as my main tablet now. I didn't use it with HC because it was just so slow compared to my gt8.9 (running ICS rom).
My first impression: TouchWiz seems much smoother, Go Launcher HD feels the same. Under heavy usage of widgets TouchWiz is still great but Go Launcher HD not. I do love some Go Launcher features so I played around a lot and also tested the new 1.11 beta. But is still less responsive.
It's like a faulty motherboard replaced by a newer and faster one.
Seriously, like a new device, snappy, responsive, seems less battery hungry.
There is one 'custom rom" available, where EDaN has deodexed and removed some bloatware. I took that rom and took out everything social,photo and video editor, and some other minor crap.
Having 60 apps installed and tested it's like Christmas.
- dislike
had to discover I must install busybox to get Titanium working
had to install supersu myself, no biggy
no software based CWM, havent found compatible one, but one thats reboots to recovery anyway.
No powermenu at powerbutton
ugly blueish tint around quickmenu (with shortcuts for bt.wifi etc)
This all will be fixed when chefs get source or get impatient and offer CWM zips
Chainfire3d night mode seems to be not working...
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my only gripe so far is that if you increase the font size to Large, some apps (mostly system apps) seem to have the font go to 'super large' e.g. google play, settings menu, whilst some apps its perfect.
Conversely, going down to medium, most apps are back to Honeycomb tiny font problem, whilst the system apps are fine
Seems like Sammy tweaked the touchwiz stock UI to display fine on medium size, without thinking that 'hey most apps the user will be using needs it set to large hmmmm'. Hoping AOSP ROMs will get around this issue
The tab is more responsive overall. Feels like a new device. But still not loving touchwiz--wish this is a pure Google device. Installing Nova Launcher partially fixes that. Only app not working out well so far is Battery Monitor Widget Pro--the mA usage keeps showing "0". Just about everything else survived the upgrade with no issues.
Add: mA information in Battery monitor widget works is set to "estimation" rather than automatic. So that problem is solved...
I never used tw always adw launcher ex on this device, everything is smoother with ics now we just need some custom roms and kernels so it can catch up to my galaxy note and asus prime
Anyone notice the clipboard function is gone?
In HC, when ublong tap to paste, there are 2 options to choose, PASTE & CLIPBIARD.
in ICS, there's only PASTE.
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I love this new upgrade. The lag is mostly gone, and it's actually more functional. And Chrome looks awesome on the screen.
matsuru said:
Anyone notice the clipboard function is gone?
In HC, when ublong tap to paste, there are 2 options to choose, PASTE & CLIPBIARD.
in ICS, there's only PASTE.
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It only seems to work with the Samsung keyboard. I thought that was also the case in 3.2?
I'm truly loving this tab with ICS. One huge problem is with my WiFi. I experienced once again as it just disconnected and never connected again until I shut it down completely and turned it back on. Logged onto another AP. I hate this problem as I thought I had fixed it. It seems like the WiFi module is overheated and shutdown or something....*SIGH*
when browsing, going back to the previous tabs is still being reloaded. That is my only gripe so far.
Other than that, everything is smoothhhhhh...
I agree. Smooth interface. :-D
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I am using multiling keyboard and the function is there.
Anyway, because of this, I found an app that does more -> Clipper+
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Impressions.
It's good stuff!
First: Hotmail seems to be staying put. Had big bothers with this as account would dissapear from tab. Seems to be fixed now, but need more time.
Second: SD Card behaving. Sweet.
Third: No waiting around for unlock screen to pop up when power button pressed. WTF was that anyway?
Fourth: Swype behaving itself. Kept on getting beeps before, and i would have to change to Samkey and back to swype. One crash so far in google translate.
Fifth: Browser no longer reloading all the time to homepage. seems more stable.
Sixth: Youtube actually responds when choosing a vid. If you hit back before and chose another, it was no longer responsive.
Seventh: AR much more responsive. 1sec response time. instead of 3-4. Overall response time much boosted. Has crossed the line from WTF? to hey... Sweet!
0'ed: Sammy did our super bloody expensive tab first. THANK YOU!
PS: flashed XL4 (United Arab Emirates) with Austrian version.(ODIN 1.85) Not a problem. Did Full Reset before flashing though. All went smooth. Im a very happy camper! Hope i could help.
I haven't gotten the update yet but for those who have, please share impressions. Good, bad or whatever. Given how underwhelming stock ICS is on this tab, I wonder how stock JB stacks. I'm glad this is officially out because chances are I'll resort to an official JB custom ROM that'll make this tab sing than stick with stock.
JellyBean is here!
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I haven't gotten the update yet but for those who have, please share impressions. Good, bad or whatever. Given how underwhelming stock ICS is on this tab, I wonder how stock JB stacks. I'm glad this is officially out because chances are I'll resort to an official JB custom ROM that'll make this tab sing than stick with stock.
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Just got the update. I've tooled around just a few minutes, but other than the unlock function, I can't really see much different. It definitely is not an overwhelming change like ICS was for me. I'll come back with more as I spend more time with it.
I am looking forward to installing Google Now, however, that would be great on my Razr Maxx too.
Google now didn't come with update?!?!?
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I have google now at least i think i do. It shows in the lock screen and I asked it for tomorrow's weather and worked wonderfully
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I am looking forward to installing Google Now, however, that would be great on my Razr Maxx too.
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you mean there's no google now and you're trying to "install" it?
the new voice search and google now are the main reason i want to update
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I have google now at least i think i do. It shows in the lock screen and I asked it for tomorrow's weather and worked wonderfully
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thanks, it talks back to you, right?
Isn't Google now an in built feature? Should be somewhere in the notification drawer.
No love for the European TF300s.. :S just checked for update but found nothing, do any of you guys have clue when the European updates might be incoming?
Yeah it talked back to me stating the weather forecast.
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The interface hasn't changed but after my second reboot, this thing is runniing SO much faster. I can actaully update apps from the play store without the dreaded Wait/Close prompt. Transitions are much smoother (Animation for changing Home Screens and swipping through my app list.
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The interface hasn't changed but after my second reboot, this thing is runniing SO much faster. I can actaully update apps from the play store without the dreaded Wait/Close prompt. Transitions are much smoother (Animation for changing Home Screens and swipping through my app list.
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Good to know...seems like the I/o issues have been fixed.
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Some changes i've noticed:
- it runs smoother than .30, really smoother, at least smoother. i noticed slow-ness when open quickoffice hd in power saving mode when it was .30, now with the same power saving mode, it's faster (like about 2-3 seconds), quickoffice is kinda a heavy apps i think, of course you won't have any problem in balanced or performance mode.
- new animation when open or exit apps, and i like it, of course the animation runs smooth too
- you can now disable the smartdimmer feature in settings->asus customized settings (thanks to jgaf he figured out this)
- because of google new voice search, we now have a new text-to-speech engine (the same as google voice search), and she sounds "sweet", the old one is gone, imo the old one sucks, can't really here anything, this new one is better than siri, sounds better, at least with the English US i believe.
- of course we have a new google voice search and google now, which is the feature i've been waiting for, help me practice my english
- looks like google has changed the "Tab UI" a little bit, for example: on .30 firmware, when you go to settings->apps you see "Downloaded", "Running", "All", to switch between these "tabs" you have to tap on them, but now with jelly bean, you can swipe left and right to switch, also the "tab menu" looks nicer (like windows phone i think)
so... no flash player with this update?? I think i might skip it just because of that.
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so... no flash player with this update?? I think i might skip it just because of that.
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839691
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so... no flash player with this update?? I think i might skip it just because of that.
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If you had flash already installed you don't need to worry about it. I still have flash player and it works.
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Anyone with JB update can say anthing about the ram usage? tks
kungfuusheep said:
Anyone with JB update can say anthing about the ram usage? tks
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before the update i got around 600 MB free
after the update around 300 MB free
kungfuusheep said:
Anyone with JB update can say anthing about the ram usage? tks
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Same as nooktablet with about 300MB free after. I usually had 500-600MB before.
And I unrooted without Voodoo before the update. Not able to root at this point.
nooktablet said:
before the update i got around 600 MB free
after the update around 300 MB free
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jdk2 said:
Same as nooktablet with about 300MB free after. I usually had 500-600MB before.
And I unrooted without Voodoo before the update. Not able to root at this point.
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Do you notice any performance issues when you are running your usual apps or games as compared to before?
The browser doesn't do all of the lag dancing that it used to do. Haven't seen the wait/close dialog yet. There's some different animations in your installed apps section the Play store when updating an app. ES File Explorer seems to be having some issues though as it's forced closed twice while trying to copy files from my home network, something I've never seen ever. Been using it on three phones and this tablet and never experienced a problem until now.
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The browser doesn't do all of the lag dancing that it used to do. Haven't seen the wait/close dialog yet. There's some different animations in your installed apps section the Play store when updating an app. ES File Explorer seems to be having some issues though as it's forced closed twice while trying to copy files from my home network, something I've never seen ever. Been using it on three phones and this tablet and never experienced a problem until now.
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I'm sure they will release an update: i know that JB has been wreaking havoc with some developers on the play store
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