[Q] 7.7 or 7.0 Plus? - Galaxy Tab 7.7 General

Hi all!
I bought myself a refurbed Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus recently, and long story short, the firmware was borked so I sent it back. So I'm now looking at new models instead to ensure I don't have the same issue!
For the price I'm looking to pay (around £350 tops), I can get myself a 3G and Wifi 7.0 Plus, or I can get myself a Wifi only 7.7. Bearing in mind I have a Galaxy S2 for which I could purchase a tethering plan, what would you recommend I go for? What are the differences and pros/cons between each model?

Hipster Dashie said:
Hi all!
I bought myself a refurbed Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus recently, and long story short, the firmware was borked so I sent it back. So I'm now looking at new models instead to ensure I don't have the same issue!
For the price I'm looking to pay (around £350 tops), I can get myself a 3G and Wifi 7.0 Plus, or I can get myself a Wifi only 7.7. Bearing in mind I have a Galaxy S2 for which I could purchase a tethering plan, what would you recommend I go for? What are the differences and pros/cons between each model?
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I had both. I like 7.7 better. 7.0 fits in hands better and it actually looks like a real phone when put against the head. 7.7 looks like a tablet when put to the head. With that said, I do like the 7.7 better because of the Super AMOLED Plus and the high resolution. Other than that I didn't notice any difference in functionality.

Form factor: the 7+ is (obviously) more portable despite being a couple mm thicker. At over 1cm narrower, it fits better in some pockets that have trouble accommodating the 7.7. If you plan to carry it around in pockets, the 7+ is an easy recommendation. If you use a bag/purse, I doubt you'll really notice the difference but the 7.7 is a smidge lighter.
Screen: this is the big one for me. The 7.7 is a 1280x800 SAMOLED+, and the 7+ is a 1024x600 LCD. Samsung's PLS LCDs are great--good brightness and viewing angles, and the 7+ is no different by all accounts. Still, they have nothing on the deep blacks and high color saturation of OLED panels. Also, I find a 7" 1024x600 panel to be absolutely awful for web viewing--600 px width basically makes it unusable in portrait, in my opinion, and that's not a lot of vertical real estate when you're in landscape. Having used a 7+ already, you likely know whether it's something you can live with or not.
Also, you might want to read a bit about some of the screen issues people have. I believe this is the largest SAMOLED+ panel Samsung currently sells and the tech is definitely experiencing some growing pains. You're best off if you can buy from a retail store where you can exchange your 7.7 if you get a bad screen.
Connectivity: since you're comparing a wifi to a 3G tablet, you likely know the ups and downs here. I have the P6810 (wifi only) and have no problems tethering for the rare occasion when I need internet away from a wifi hotspot. I don't really use it in the car, since I'm fine with the navigation options on my phone. Also, since US carriers are crap, I'd be paying way too much for a data-only SIM and plan. Basically consider the cost of tethering and compare it with the cost of a cellular data plan. One thing I find useful too is to amortize the cost over what you expect the lifetime of your tablet to be--it gives you a bit of perspective about what the actual cost difference is.
Internals: The SoCs are the same, though the 7.7's clock tops out at 1.4GHz compared to the 7+ at 1.2GHz. Same RAM, sensors, and cameras. The 7.7 has a larger battery.
Cost: I'm honestly surprised you're considering these in the same ballpark. Here in the states, a P6200 (3G 7+) is nearly $100 cheaper than a P6810 (wifi 7.7). The P6810 is going to take up nearly all of that £350 budget, while I'd expect you to have room to spare if you go with a P6200.
Other: I personally love the way the 7.7 looks--the thinness and aluminum back really give it a premium feel that other Galaxy Tabs are missing. Of course, it's priced to match, but I don't regret the extra cost of the 7.7 personally.
The 7+ also has (and probably will continue to have) better dev support, so if ROMs and themes and such are something you're into, you might want to go with that one. Here, we have root, a couple of basic ROMs, and some statusbar themes.

Hipster Dashie said:
Hi all!
I bought myself a refurbed Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus recently, and long story short, the firmware was borked so I sent it back. So I'm now looking at new models instead to ensure I don't have the same issue!
For the price I'm looking to pay (around £350 tops), I can get myself a 3G and Wifi 7.0 Plus, or I can get myself a Wifi only 7.7. Bearing in mind I have a Galaxy S2 for which I could purchase a tethering plan, what would you recommend I go for? What are the differences and pros/cons between each model?
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Hi Mate
I won't go into the pro's and cons of each model but personally I'd suggest you get a 3G model and then get a GiffGaff sim. The GG Sim at £10 per month with no contract gives you 250 mins but unlimited text messages and unlimited data (I used 9GB one month with no comebacks). The biggest advantage of either 3G version of the tablet model is that as you can use them as a real phone you can use a proper GG sim rather then being limited to a datasim with a data cap.
There will be times (perhaps not many) when you'll need either two data connections or to make two simultaneous phone calls in a hurry and having the flexibility of two fully usable devices is irreplaceable IMHO.
By the way there was a 7 Plus in London on Gumtree yesterday for under £350 (nothing to do with me).
Good luck

Hipster Dashie said:
Hi all!
I bought myself a refurbed Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus recently, and long story short, the firmware was borked so I sent it back. So I'm now looking at new models instead to ensure I don't have the same issue!
For the price I'm looking to pay (around £350 tops), I can get myself a 3G and Wifi 7.0 Plus, or I can get myself a Wifi only 7.7. Bearing in mind I have a Galaxy S2 for which I could purchase a tethering plan, what would you recommend I go for? What are the differences and pros/cons between each model?
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This sounds like something that just happened to me...
I just a week ago bought a refurb tab 7.0 plus (from ebay) and used it and liked it very much until I noticed a dead pixel on the screen. Due to that I returned it and said to myself no more refurbs.
That aside I started to look for a new tab and noticed the Panamoz selling the 7.7 - http://panamoz.com/index.php/hot-deals/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-16gb-wifi-3g-wifi-android-tablet.html
I have ordered it and worked out to £425 for the 16gb 3G and wifi model with a replacement warranty (if it encounters a fault they replace it with a new one rather than fix it).
You can get the wifi model for £65 cheaper but for me it's so much more convenient to have a 3G model.

Thanks for all the input guys!
I took the time to have a look at the 7.7 in the Carphone Warehouse today. I have to agree with those of you praising the 7.7 - it really is a gorgeous tablet! I was surprised at how fluid the OS felt, even with that increase in screen resolution. Considering I can tether whenever I *really* want to get online (the Tab will mainly be used for uni work where there's wifi access, not to mention there are lots of free hotspots about London) and the added monthly cost of a data plan, I've decided to go for a wifi only 7.7. Especially since that link to Panamoz is pegging the 7.7 cheaper than the 3G 7.0 Plus from the outlets I've had my eye on.

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Galaxy tab at woot for 259.99+5 shipping

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" 16GB Android Tablet - Wi-Fi + 3G
$259.99
+ $5 shipping
http://www.woot.com/
until 10pm pacific time tomorrow.
I don't own one, I'm over in the nook color forums mostly. Just thought someone might like to know if they were thinking of buying.
You do have the option of sprint 3g with this one.
nicbennett said:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" 16GB Android Tablet - Wi-Fi + 3G
$259.99
+ $5 shipping
http://www.woot.com/
until 10pm pacific time tomorrow.
I don't own one, I'm over in the nook color forums mostly. Just thought someone might like to know if they were thinking of buying.
You do have the option of sprint 3g with this one.
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I saw this too....Not bad. Only issue I have with this deal is that it's refurbished with only a 90-day warranty from woot and then you're on your own if it takes a crap.
hmmmm........
BubbaRob1978 said:
I saw this too....Not bad. Only issue I have with this deal is that it's refurbished with only a 90-day warranty from woot and then you're on your own if it takes a crap.
hmmmm........
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Refurbs r okay but ya if craps u got a whole lot of cleaning to do
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And I litterally just got one on eBay for $300... Do I return it and get this one? Or just stick it out as a decision I've made?
Andrewb19 said:
And I litterally just got one on eBay for $300... Do I return it and get this one? Or just stick it out as a decision I've made?
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Return and get this one. Unless eBay one is new.
In Australia they are going for 299 new
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
Ok... i want one but i guess they dont send to sweden...
Given this deal, can the Sprint Tab be rooted and connected to Verizon's CDMA 3g, or is it permanently tied to Sprint's 3g network?
I'm thinking about buying it. I'm on the Viewsonic G Tablet forum only, so I don't know much about the Galaxy Tab development. How functional is the Honeycomb port for the Galaxy Tab? I just got Honeycomb installed on my GTab and so far its really good for an alpha build. The only thing not working is flash plugin, camera, and video hardware acceleration.
I just got mine from their last sale, and it works great, have had some over the air upgrades. I, too, have a viewsonic. I like the Galaxy size and the main reason was the built in GPS... Makes the Copilot work more reliable compared to the bluetooth Viewsonic. Of course the Viewsonic big screen is nicer to read documents and web...
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Just bought one. I've got the wifi only version right now and really enjoy it. I'm listing that guy on ebay right now and I'm going to start the auction at $260 or so. It'll sell and I'll basically get upgraded hardware (faster processor, BT 3.0) at no cost. I'm down with that.
this must be limited availability... this is monster deal for 3G. thats 180euro
So If I have a current sprint plan with unlimited data, can this be added just like an extra line? obviously that wouldn't include the sprint hotspot. Or, will they require a separate plan?
I am about to hit Buy now, but is it worth it. Any serious opinions on the device from real users is what I like to hear, not reviewers. I own an iPad 2, which is hard to beat. Im no apple_boy either. Its the best thats why I own. Anyways I want a new Android tablet, I have owned one last year (Camangi WebStation) but I want to give it another go. How is the DEVin here, are there a few good ROMs?
I'm in for one, ready to upgrade from my Nook Color. Looking forward to the 1ghz processor and ff camera.
nicknowsky said:
I am about to hit Buy now, but is it worth it. Any serious opinions on the device from real users is what I like to hear, not reviewers. I own an iPad 2, which is hard to beat. Im no apple_boy either. Its the best thats why I own. Anyways I want a new Android tablet, I have owned one last year (Camangi WebStation) but I want to give it another go. How is the DEVin here, are there a few good ROMs?
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There are a few ROMs available... not near as active as say the HD2 forums or the Xoom forums... Overcome is pretty much the dominant ROM for GSM tabs. Alterbridge has both a 2.2 and a 2.3 rom available at the moment, and Spacemoose1 is currently working on development for Honeycomb for both the GSM and CDMA devices. If I didn't have one of these already, I'd be buying it... Someone point Deeper-Blue to this post so He and Space can develop HC together...
I've got a Nook Color as well and I am considering buying the G Tab on Woot too.
Not sure if I am going to pull the trigger on it, though. Besides cameras and a mic, what else would it give me that my rooted Nook Color doesn't have?
so it might be worth it. I was about to pull the trigger on the ASUS Transformer, but I went to best Buy this morning and it was sold out. I was available online there for like the past 3 days, now SOLD OUT
But I keep seeing these Galaxy Tabs for sale, some pretty good deals, its making me wonder if I should go Honeycomb, the post for this could be a ways away.
Put one on order for my dad, he's been drooling over my g tablet but I'm sure he'll be happy with one of these galaxy tabs. Couldn't beat the price.
Deal hit slickdeals, better hurry
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2957695
Would this work in India? Reliance CDMA. Oh, and I cant seem to find any info about it having a sim card slot or not

Torn between this and the Nexus!

I know I can't be the only one out there. I'm just really unsure about the Note's size... I'm a tall guy, with big hands, but its just seems that bit too big?
Mind you, I've been using my Tab 7.0 as a phone for a good 3 weeks!
Is it really usable with one hand? By that I mean, can I fire off a quick text with one hand? If its a yes, I'll order it now!
Thanks for anything useful you have to say!
I'm in the same situation like you!
I'm currently with AT&T at the moment, wondering if I should sell my iPhone 4S (only reason I got it was because of its high resale value) to buy a Note to use, or wait until the Nexus comes to Verizon and sell my iPhone and use that money for the Nexus.
I really like the size of the Note and would love to use it during school, but I kind of want to see how the Nexus looks in real life first before making my decision.
I would also rather be on Verizon's network to be honest, with it's double data promotion helping its case even more.
Im thinking I may just go for the nexus now, I've not had a pure android yet (from stock) and it looks fluid as anything! IMO Touchwiz slows down Android (I own both the Tab and original Galaxy S).
Still can't seem to click buy on either though!
Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.
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Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.
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I'm not worried about pockets, my 7.0 tab fits in my pockets! I just thought.... If I buy this I can sell my Tab and put that towards this, as it'll replace it anyway!
I'll sell my tab on eBay me thinks!
EDIT: Tab in the marketplace, once thats sold, I will be buying note. Just found out that Nexus uses a poor GPU. I know its twice the speed of Galaxy S, but I'd rather have samsungs latest chip!
I just ordered a white Note from eBay. The way I look at it, an Aosp ICS rom will come eventually. Then you have the option be it Aosp, MIUI, or Touchwiz. And if one doesn't come fast enough, use the Note then sell it when the Nexus is available to you. I have an HTC right now and I switch between Aosp and Sense and its nice to have the choice.
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Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.
Bigmille said:
Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.
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You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.
Portability
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.
khsbenny said:
You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.
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You are welcome, Amazon.de normally ship the phone out the next working day and it will take two more days for delivery via CityLink.
Also CityLink web tracking might tell you the phone will arrive the next working day after Amazon has shipped the Note. Don't belive them and don't panic when the tracking don't get updated for the 1st 24hrs.
Xaddict said:
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.
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I'm looking forward to a stylus! As much as Jobs hated them, you can't beat them for accuracy. Web browsing was easier on my 2.8" screen on my HTC Diamond thanks to a stylus!
I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?
ik911 said:
I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?
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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.
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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.
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All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-
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All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-
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I suppose I could claim the VAT back.... If its not in the next few days I might have to give the white one a miss
I'm in the same boat as you. I've been mulling over this decision for about 2 weeks at least
Here's my pros and cons, and these are too me, a US AT&T user still in contract:
Note Pros:
- Screen
- CPU
- Battery
- Staying with AT&T
Cons:
- Importing and Warranty
- No ICS yet. This is big as it looks like exchange support is greatly improved there, and I'd like to ditch Touchdown
I don't consider the stylus much of a pro personally - I don't think I'll use it
Nexus Pros:
- Vanilla ICS
- NFC
- LTE sim swap with my Xoom (this is kinda minor, as WiFi hotspot is basically the same except that I can conserve my phone's battery if I were to go on a road trip)
- Better dev and app support because it will be more popular
Nexus Cons:
- very worried about battery life with LTE. I'd hope to go data only too, so I'd have GooVe IP signed in all the time.
- smaller screen, though it might be OK as I've had a Dell Streak and so many apps don't deal with gigantic screens very well.
- maybe slightly worse camera from my investigations
I probably should just buy the Note and be done with it, but I want to see what Verizon's off contract price is. if it's $600 that's hard to then justify getting a Note for around $750 I think. $650-700 will be a note autobuy I think... then again my ETF would be around $150, but going data only will save in the long run, but not sure if I can reliably recieve calls on GrooVe IP... meh... decisions.
There IS a simple solution........... JUST GET BOTH !!!
It is what I am doing....... can't help myself
Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
It's still too early to comment on battery life, but so far we're not seeing any issues. While the Nexus feels quite snappy it isn't as mind bendingly fast as some Gingerbread devices (the Galaxy Note comes to mind)
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The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.
where can I get the 2.3.6 version? I tried to update my phone but it said my phone was all updated.
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Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.
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Agree with everything you said. I've been doing my research on both since I had been going back and forth on what phone I really wanted and even went with just the AT&T GS2 for a few days but in the end both the GS2 and Nexus both are inferior devices to what the Note offers and outside of getting ICS early I can't see any reason to buy the Nexus unless you just need a smaller phone. I'd rather wait and get ICS shortly down the road than to get it a few weeks earlier on lesser hardware.

GT-N5100 Note 8.0 3G

Does anyone know when the 3G version will be released? I have read in many reviews that battery life on the WiFi is not that impressive, do you think Samsung would ship the 3G version with a larger battery?
in Malaysia the Note 8 is launched with the 3G version already, on Friday.
all specs remain the same throughout
Shame it could have done with a bigger battery by all accounts. I'll still get one, (im)patiently waiting for a 3G version, any colour, any storage size in the UK.
I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought it last april 13 here in the Philippines, the battery is pretty good it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, the battery on this phone is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought 7t past april 13 here in Philippines, the battery is pretty it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, battery is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?
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Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?
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Around 530USD, yeah the samsung book cover is free, they also did a free phone promo, you get to take home the samsung phone you draw from lot, most guy went home with the cheapest samsung phone including myself
Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?
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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?
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Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.
Juvenall said:
Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.
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I'm interested for the the international version.
Heard anything about that?
The 3G price would seem to be hovering around the $800 mark based on eBay listings for the GT-N5100, but it's availability still seems up in the air. Hopefully someone outside of the US can point you towards a reputable international seller with stock.
Wow. It will be so expensive.
Thanks for your help.
The 3G version retails around $580 in Asia. Prices will come down on eBay very soon.
I'm waiting for it in the US as well. There's a site called Negri Electronics located in Las Vegas, that has a pre order page for it, listed at $660 at the time of this post. From what I've heard, the international version should be released April 30, but I haven't found any confirmation. As far as releasing s US version, I'm sure they'll release an LTE version sooner or later for use with CDMA networks like Verizon and US Cellular, but if you plan on getting it going on T-Mobile (like me), it'll only run on their 1900mhz frequency, which allows phone calls, but mostly 2g data speeds, unless you're in an area where they've refarmed the 1900mhz frequency to run HSPA speeds. Good luck and let's hope they bring this bad boy to T-Mobile!
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^Yeah, I went ahead and put in my preorder for the 16GB 3G + WiFi N5100 from Negri Electronics last week. It was the least expensive site that I could find, and I know that they are a reputable seller. And since they are in Las Vegas shipping is relatively fast to the Los Angeles area.
Up until early yesterday the site said that the "Expected Availability" date was April 23rd, but just this morning (Los Angeles time) I checked again, and now it says May 8th. Gotta wait a bit longer now and I'm chomping at the bit as it is, LOL. Still, I wish it were closer to just ~$100 (or less) of a premium for the 3G/Phone version instead of the blatant raping that it is.
And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
Yes. I still ordered one, but it was not an easy (or rational) decision that I made, LOL! It's actually just a bit depressing to contemplate spending so much for their "shiny plastic products", when the competition offer much nicer physical or cosmetic designs and materials (IMO), and at less cost.
I really believe that Samsung creates amazing products, and ergonomically I prefer most of their products over Apple's in that regard. However, they did miss the mark with the speaker and capacitive button placement on the Note 8.0. And I don't know what the designers were thinking with the camera protruding so much that the tab rocks from side-to-side when placed on a table, desk, etc. :/ So much for accurate use of the S-pen (the hero feature of this device)!
IMO, the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is the ONLY Samsung mobile electronics device that I can think of where I feel they came even close to matching the build quality and physical design of their competition. But once again, they priced it way out of the market. :/
And I don't mind the use of plastics one bit if they are used properly like the polycarbonates used in some of the higher-end Nokia and HTC devices. I truly feel that when Samsung gets their build quality up to par that the vast majority of the public will have no problem paying Apple-level prices (or more), and they'll sell a bazillion just like Apple does. But they're demanding premium prices, even over what Apple demands, but for an inferior physical design/build quality (IMHO). Why does Samsung not "get this"?!? People expect a BMW or Mercedes when they pay the price for one, not a Citroen (no offense to any Citroen owners).
With the Galaxy S4, if Samsung had just stepped-up the build quality alone (plus the 13mp camera), and nothing more as compared to the GS3, I would have purchased it. But with the same 'ol shiny plastic, its just a "Meh" product to me.
Also, I was really hoping that they would have included the hardware FM Radio tuner on the International version of the Note 8.0, just as they did on the Int'l SGS2, SGS3, Note (N7000), and Note 2. Initially, I didn't think that I would use the FM tuner at all, but I've found that I use it quite a bit...saves quite a bit on data as opposed to streaming.
LOL, sorry that I veered so off topic, haha. /END OF RANT
I am very much looking forward to using the new Note 8.0!
Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?
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Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?
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I don't see that option anywhere on the phine, so i'm assuming 7ts not a feature
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Note 8 LTE
Any news about the LTE version? Which LTE bands? It should be already on the market.
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Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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I meant to ask whether you also got the complementary 50 GB dropbox space with the 8.0.
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And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.
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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.
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Agree, but Do you think that even more diversification would help Samsung?
I think they should think of introducing a Note 8.0 sans the digitiser. Then they can really target the iPad Mini. It would still be a great product as many online reviews (Engadget) claim so.
That would be the true spiritual successor to the 7.7
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8.4 same fate as the Galaxy Tab 7.7?

I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.
As underwhelming as Android updates have been since 4.1, I don't think it really matters anymore. My Moto X got updated from 4.3 to 4.4... I barely noticed.
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I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.
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The 7.7 was Verizon I think. Anything involving Verizon will be very slow on updates. They are the worst at approving manufacturer updates and pushing them out. HTC leaked a final 4.3 for my former DROID DNA 5 and it took Verizon 5 months to release it.
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All Samsung's high-end tablets starting with the N10.1-14 are running the same h/w and screen resolution. That's got to make coding updates faster and easier as so much is shared between them.
I'm optimistic that it will be different from the Tab 7.7 for a couple reasons. As mentioned above, the hardware and screen resolution is nearly identical across multiple devices this time, where the 7.7 was the only tablet with its processor and screen resolution (the Note 1 and Tab 7 Plus were the closest two. A phone and another low selling sparsely available tablet). The international version was updated slowly, but far quicker than the Verizon LTE version. However, I think it didn't sell well at all, was expensive, and was banned from multiple countries before or after its rocky unveiling (remember Apple had the courts remove it from the stand at IFA?). It became the best product that Samsung couldn't sell and therefore had little incentive to support it.
Not that I'm trying to make excuses for Samsung not supporting it, just that I'm logically hopeful this time around.
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I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag ..
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I still have a 7.7 and it's on JB4.1.2.
It's smooth as... AND twice as quick.
I remember the lag on the Default ICS ROM and I was very disapointed. Especially as I had an S2 with less power but it's UI was silky smooth.
Fortunately the was a developer UpInTheAir who kept the device moving forward. His first ICS Sky High rom for the 7.7 was a god send.
And now, if it were not for the Pro 8.4 I'd still want to keep my 7.7 with the JB 4.1.2 release available.
The point however to take from your comments is that WITHOUT xda community the 7.7 I would have been very disappointed. It would have stayed the best screen/worst OS tablet/paperweight device available. As it is now with this ROM it is a better alternative than for Apple iPad Mini 1st Gen.
I hope that the 'Tab Pro' given it's 'Pro' status Samsung keeps with the updates. (Given I've just ordered one)
Welcome to the world of Samsung. You'll be lucky if you get more then 2 updates or a year of support. They're in the business of making a quick buck then dump their customers to desolation.
Got the iPad mini. Samsung scares me too much. If I was going for the 10.1, okay, but the 8.4 may turn out to be not popular enough and will be forgotten.
I have a Mini Retina. Sorry but there is no comparison to the 8.4 Pro. Sure the Mini has a nice aluminum back (which you need to immediately put into a case as it scratches super easy) and a slightly more robust battery but that's about it.
The Samsung wins everywhere it matters, battery notwithstanding.
I'll put the two side by side and take some pics of the screen. The Mini Retina is much dimmer (my biggest beef btw with the LG G Pad) than the Samsung irrespective of what brightness levels you set it at.
The other biggie is the Micro SD slot. The Tab Pro + a 64GB Micro SD card (80 GB total) is about $160 cheaper than a 64GB Mini Retina. Plus the accessories are much cheaper (mind you less selection of cases).
Now that Sandisk has released a 128GB Micro SD for $120 that equates to a 144GB tablet for $200 cheaper than the 128GB Mini Retina.
Plus if you are an avid reader, you cannot beat the reading apps on Android. The closest is Marvin for IOS and its still barely usable.
Just curious, is tab pro 8.4 capable of making phone calls? and i mean real phone calls like tab 7.7
Buy the LTE version and you can...
seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
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seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
thanks before
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If you take a look at any reviews of LTE version then you can see Phone Application as well. And this fact is known, I' m waiting for the same thing...
hmm. so it's based on the picture of the phone application huh? okay2 ^^ thanks
Yeah i 'm also getting the LTE version to make phone calls
The reason the 7.7 didn't get a lot of support is due to it being banned in many countries so without them able to sell it they had no reason to keep it updated.
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I ordered the 8.4 LTE from Hong Kong... it'll arrive in 10 days.
I use the 7.7 now as my phone. I'm expecting to use the 8.4 as my phone too.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 vs Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE, Worth Upgrading?
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Thanks for this topic.... above notes and comments. This has has been eating my brain for weeks....
I am also in this dilemma to, see actual comparison of two in terms of spec here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8.4/phones/6739,8663 (If im not allowed to add this, mods please remove link and keep post, thanks)
I wanted to know if it’s worth upgrading too or not, as I also used it for phone calls and video calls. I was wondering can the tab s 8.4 4G/LTE work in the same manner or are they different now? Also build quality on the Tab 7.7 is second to none. How does it compare to Tab S 8.4?
See that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 had the following available:
Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS
Does the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 have the same fate as the Tab 7.7. Meaning does it have the same capabilities of "Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS"
Does anyone know, if yes please advise. As I’m thinking of selling my tab 7.7 32gb Wi-Fi and 3G to purchase a tab s 8.4 WiFi & 4G/LTE…
Thanks

Tab S4 is coming

Looks like it could be upgrade time, (if the price is right of course.)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-s4-passes-wifi-alliance-certification/
Who's tempted? :angel:
No mention of 8" version though :crying:
Only if my S2 dies. Right now it is running fine and meeting all of my needs. It's only 16 months old. Besides, given past experience the the introductory price will be too high.
I'm curious about new products because the current sale on S2 and S3 tablets seems to be a clearance.
I bought two more Tab S2s (T813s) just last month. Its more important to me to have the ability to run Lineage than the latest hardware. So no a Tab S4 really doesn't interest me unless I see some development for it. Based on how the other new Samsung phones / devices have been, I'm not holding my breath.
Bought my S2 in December 2015.
Still running perfectly fine.
Especially I like the very low weight which adds to the universal usability of this device.
Unfortunately the S4 will be significantly heavier, and NO other tablet in the 10" range with <400g weight is in sight... so I hope my S2 will work for another 2 years...
For me, most of my current T715 is fine, and has been for the last 2 years. On an 8" S4, (not that one exists,) I'd like the same form factor and weight, a new battery, SD835, always on FP sensor and 4GB ram.
Things like a glass back, facial recognition, increased weight, don't interest me.
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Looks like it could be upgrade time, (if the price is right of course.)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-s4-passes-wifi-alliance-certification/
Who's tempted? :angel:
No mention of 8" version though :crying:
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its a no from me until they start putting the latest chipset on their tablet. I'm not paying premium price tag for last year chipset.
Was tempted but since no 8 so disregarded it. Tried to find availability of the Huawei 8.4 & found none. So got the S2; it is now 2 weeks. I use it for reading books & got it because Amazon had it for sale at $289 which pushed me over. My ASUS Zenpad S3 10 is very nice &, for me, much better than the iPad 9.7; but both are too "heavy" & awkward.
Also decided to resurrect my Tab Pro with the RRMix & have sent for a battery replacement since it was going down 30% in 24 hrs in sleep mode; think it is worst now & will see if the it remains the same when the battery arrives in 5 days.
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I bought two more Tab S2s (T813s) just last month. Its more important to me to have the ability to run Lineage than the latest hardware. So no a Tab S4 really doesn't interest me unless I see some development for it. Based on how the other new Samsung phones / devices have been, I'm not holding my breath.
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Man, how much did you pay for them? I want to pull the trigger on one so bad, but I just can't at the current prices, especially when they'll tank in a few months with the release of the S4...
had my tab for about 1.5 years,happy with it,i only stream football and read books,does the job
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Man, how much did you pay for them? I want to pull the trigger on one so bad, but I just can't at the current prices, especially when they'll tank in a few months with the release of the S4...
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I just checked both the ones I just bought were $349, both T813, the 9.7" ones. These last two were for my wife and son. I believe mine I actually picked up for $299, but that was back when the S3 had come out IIRC.
I bought one on Amazon for my son. Then when I decided I wanted a second one for my wife, they had already sold out, so I picked up a second one on eBay (it was new sealed).
My T813 is still running great, so I'm not really in the market for a tablet right now. Maybe, if the S3 drops in price sufficiently, I might upgrade to it to get the pen, but otherwise, I'm good.
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I just checked both the ones I just bought were $349, both T813, the 9.7" ones. These last two were for my wife and son. I believe mine I actually picked up for $299, but that was back when the S3 had come out IIRC.
I bought one on Amazon for my son. Then when I decided I wanted a second one for my wife, they had already sold out, so I picked up a second one on eBay (it was new sealed).
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In my country, Indonesia, secondhand Tab S2 9.7 will set you back Rp1.450.000,00 (which translates to around $105). But it has a caveat, the screen has shadow problem (but still, i can bear it for that kind of price!)
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In my country, Indonesia, secondhand Tab S2 9.7 will set you back Rp1.450.000,00 (which translates to around $105). But it has a caveat, the screen has shadow problem (but still, i can bear it for that kind of price!)
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Had I found any used ones for that price I might had considered it. In my area most people ask $300 for a used one. (Seriously, two in my area right now for sale, both $300) For the price it would be dumb not to buy a brand new one for only $50 more. These replaced our Nexus 7 (2013 models) which I did pick up 2 of the 3 used reasonably locally.
My play might be to wait for the eventual S3 price drop and pick one up to replace my 0G Tab S.
I'm just praying they will make a smaller model of S4. 16/9 would be a gift as well.
They need to give us an option priced equivalent to the 'normal' ipad and stop pretending that it can go head-to-head with the Pro line. Pen is nice and all but there's just not enough software to justify it.
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They need to give us an option priced equivalent to the 'normal' ipad and stop pretending that it can go head-to-head with the Pro line. Pen is nice and all but there's just not enough software to justify it.
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Yes, but this is Samsung, and they think they are the Apple of the Android world. Arguably, they shouldn't be charging iPhone money for the Galaxy S series either. My wife's 6S plus performs better than my S7 Edge in almost every way, to the point I have even considered getting her a new phone and taking her old one. The keyboard/app lag on the Galaxy devices is absurd for a device costing that much. Just texting from my device is an exercise in frustration compared to her phone or even my old HTC One M8.
The irony is that they could dramatically improve the performance of their devices by doing LESS. Drop TouchWiz, lightly skin AOSP, and maybe do a custom launcher. It's infuriating.
I like my 8" Tab S2 and my S7 Edge phone but my 10.5" iPad Pro blows away any Android device I've ever had (and I've had a lot since Android's intro). Outstanding performance and stability and a whole lot of very polished apps. iOS was difficult to adjust to but I've found ways to do anything I wanted to get done with a tablet. It would take something very special to get me to invest in a new Android tablet again (but I'll stick to Android phones and will continue to use the S2 Tab as a mini tablet).
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I like my 8" Tab S2 and my S7 Edge phone but my 10.5" iPad Pro blows away any Android device I've ever had (and I've had a lot since Android's intro). Outstanding performance and stability and a whole lot of very polished apps. iOS was difficult to adjust to but I've found ways to do anything I wanted to get done with a tablet. It would take something very special to get me to invest in a new Android tablet again (but I'll stick to Android phones and will continue to use the S2 Tab as a mini tablet).
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Agreed on iOS being slicker than Android. Unfortunately, that means buying into the Apple ecosystem, because anything "not Apple" is either not supported, or not supported well. In my case, I use Chromecast devices a lot, especially the Chromecast Audio. While there are a few apps for casting to them on iOS, none of them are great (save for VLC, which isn't iOS specific). The alternative would be to replace all those devices with AppleTVs, which would be prohibitively expensive at the moment.
Of course, I'm a power user, so iOS is a poor fit for me anyway. I like that I can setup impromptu servers to move files back and forth between my Android devices, that I can run a different launcher (almost invariably Nova launcher), etc. In fact, the biggest thing keeping me on Android is the fact that I can move files around trivially between devices or servers without having to deal with iTunes or some other app. Just trying to organize music, video, and e-books on my iPad was enough to make me switch to the Tab S2 in the first place.
Every time I get fed up with Android's quirks (or Samsung's quirks), or I pick up one of my family's iPads, I inevitably run into one of the limitations that made me go with Android in the first place.

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