Hi, planning on rooting the device and installing PA (sticking with PA's kernel). New to this area, I hope the questions are fine.
1. What's the difference between Carbon Backup and WugFresh Toolkit backup?
2. How can I avoid bricking the device?
3. Does the toolkit offers an option to unroot the device? If so, will I have to do something else instead of unrooting with the toolkit?
4. If I decided to unroot and go back to what I have right now (all the apps etc.), how would I do that (restore all the data)?
5. Is unrooting wiping the device?
6. Should I update the ROM via GOOManager directlry or should I download from GOOManager and then flash via the recovery?
7. What do you recommend - PA's built in kernel or Franco's?
8. Do I need the SuperSU app? (PA ROM)
9. From SuperSU description:
NOTICE: A SPECIAL PROCEDURE IS NEEDED FOR UNINSTALLATION. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE APP, DO *NOT* JUST UNINSTALL IT, YOU *WILL* LOSE ROOT.
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It doesn't say how to uninstall it.
Thanks in advance!
[email protected] said:
Hi, planning on rooting the device and installing PA (sticking with PA's kernel). New to this area, I hope the questions are fine.
1. What's the difference between Carbon Backup and WugFresh Toolkit backup?
2. How can I avoid bricking the device?
3. Does the toolkit offers an option to unroot the device? If so, will I have to do something else instead of unrooting with the toolkit?
4. If I decided to unroot and go back to what I have right now (all the apps etc.), how would I do that (restore all the data)?
5. Is unrooting wiping the device?
6. Should I update the ROM via GOOManager directlry or should I download from GOOManager and then flash via the recovery?
7. What do you recommend - PA's built in kernel or Franco's?
8. Do I need the SuperSU app? (PA ROM)
9. From SuperSU description:
It doesn't say how to uninstall it.
Thanks in advance!
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XDA Rule 1, use the search button and try finding the answers yourself first. This is not a covenience store where you can order what you want. Don`t want to be rude but lazyness is not apreciated around here
superSU can be set as default superuser app by converting superSU to a system file from within the app and then redownload the superSU app from Play.
Some advice: learn how to use adb instead of toolkits, look here https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNEEKsh9DfW_LuvfJlEbDsWBeAoe1Q
gee2012 said:
XDA Rule 1, use the search button and try finding the answers yourself first. This is not a covenience store where you can order what you want. Don`t want to be rude but lazyness is not apreciated around here
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I have searched alot but couldn't find exact answers for the questions I've listed here (some of them).
[email protected] said:
Hi, planning on rooting the device and installing PA (sticking with PA's kernel). New to this area, I hope the questions are fine.
1. What's the difference between Carbon Backup and WugFresh Toolkit backup?
2. How can I avoid bricking the device?
3. Does the toolkit offers an option to unroot the device? If so, will I have to do something else instead of unrooting with the toolkit?
4. If I decided to unroot and go back to what I have right now (all the apps etc.), how would I do that (restore all the data)?
5. Is unrooting wiping the device?
6. Should I update the ROM via GOOManager directlry or should I download from GOOManager and then flash via the recovery?
7. What do you recommend - PA's built in kernel or Franco's?
8. Do I need the SuperSU app? (PA ROM)
9. From SuperSU description:
It doesn't say how to uninstall it.
Thanks in advance!
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1. Pretty much all backup apps are the same, just with some different features, carbon lets you back up to the cloud I know, Titanium backup is also a pretty good/common one. Main difference is just the features, check the play store descriptions for specifics.
2. With a nexus device you don't really have to worry about bricking, you can always just use google's factory images off of their site to restore your phone from the bootloader/fastboot. It is really easy to do and plenty of guides available on it.
3. I don't know for sure if the toolkit will do it or not, but unrooting is pretty easy, just go into the system/apps portion of the internal storage and delete the superuser app that you have.
4. Just restore all your apps with the backup app that you picked, then once they are restored, delete the superuser app like i explained in the last one.
5. Nope, unrooting just removes the superuser app, nothing else
6. Doesn't matter, I use the same rom and I download on my computer then manually flash it in recovery mode, because the rom downloads faster that way. Remember to flash the gapps every time after you install the rom though!
7. I use PA's kernal, I have heard some people get better battery with Franco, but I can get like 2 and a half to 3 hours everyday on the PA one, and the color settings on the PA one look really nice. It is really a personal preference though, try both
8. Nope, it comes installed with PA already, don't have to worry about that.
9. If you go back to stock, you have to wipe the data before you install the stock aosp rom anyways, which will delete the superuser app for you. but just fyi, PA uses superuser, not superSU, it is newer and works a little bit better
Hope this helped, I love everything about PA! you won't be disappointed!
Happy flashing
klinkdawg24 said:
1. Pretty much all backup apps are the same, just with some different features, carbon lets you back up to the cloud I know, Titanium backup is also a pretty good/common one. Main difference is just the features, check the play store descriptions for specifics.
2. With a nexus device you don't really have to worry about bricking, you can always just use google's factory images off of their site to restore your phone from the bootloader/fastboot. It is really easy to do and plenty of guides available on it.
3. I don't know for sure if the toolkit will do it or not, but unrooting is pretty easy, just go into the system/apps portion of the internal storage and delete the superuser app that you have.
4. Just restore all your apps with the backup app that you picked, then once they are restored, delete the superuser app like i explained in the last one.
5. Nope, unrooting just removes the superuser app, nothing else
6. Doesn't matter, I use the same rom and I download on my computer then manually flash it in recovery mode, because the rom downloads faster that way. Remember to flash the gapps every time after you install the rom though!
7. I use PA's kernal, I have heard some people get better battery with Franco, but I can get like 2 and a half to 3 hours everyday on the PA one, and the color settings on the PA one look really nice. It is really a personal preference though, try both
8. Nope, it comes installed with PA already, don't have to worry about that.
9. If you go back to stock, you have to wipe the data before you install the stock aosp rom anyways, which will delete the superuser app for you. but just fyi, PA uses superuser, not superSU, it is newer and works a little bit better
Hope this helped, I love everything about PA! you won't be disappointed!
Happy flashing
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I appreciate your answer, thank you very much!
So now all I worry about is the backup - There are three ways I know:
1. Carbon Backup
2. Toolkit backup
3. Drag and drop from the SDCard
I just want the apps + app settings to be the same after unlocking the bootloader. Which option is the best?
Thanks again!
BTW
About question 4, the locking of the bootloader wipes the device, so how can I unroot and keep the apps? Also, should I do a Nandroid backup before or after I restore all the apps from Carbon?
[email protected] said:
I appreciate your answer, thank you very much!
So now all I worry about is the backup - There are three ways I know:
1. Carbon Backup
2. Toolkit backup
3. Drag and drop from the SDCard
I just want the apps + app settings to be the same after unlocking the bootloader. Which option is the best?
Thanks again!
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It would be appreciative and descent to hit the thanks button of klinkdawg24 after answering your questions That`s how we do things around here.
You are absolutely right. Not used to a Thanks button, usually I just say thanks
[email protected] said:
I appreciate your answer, thank you very much!
So now all I worry about is the backup - There are three ways I know:
1. Carbon Backup
2. Toolkit backup
3. Drag and drop from the SDCard
I just want the apps + app settings to be the same after unlocking the bootloader. Which option is the best?
Thanks again!
BTW
About question 4, the locking of the bootloader wipes the device, so how can I unroot and keep the apps? Also, should I do a Nandroid backup before or after I restore all the apps from Carbon?
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Use carbon backup or titanium backup I would say, I have never used carbon, but there should be a batch option to backup all your apps at once. Also, since the unlocking or locking of the bootloader will wipe all your data, including what is on the phone, make sure you copy the backup to your computer or something after you have completed it.
What I do for nandroid is just to run it before i flash a new rom, that way i always have a restore point that i can get back to.
So I:
1.) reboot to recovery, preform nandroid
2.) factory reset
3.) flash PA and gapps
then after you boot into PA, you can restore your apps and data, then if you wish, you can do another nandroid, but I wouldn't worry about it at that point, just do it before you flash a new rom or update if you would like. That way your nandroid will have all your current app data, not the app data from when you started using the rom. That just works better for me, but again, it is completely up to you
So couple of things I still do not understand:
1. You mean I should do a nandroid backup before I restore all the apps? (right after the root)
2. Right now my bootloader is locked. How can I backup my apps + app's settings so I will recover them after unlocking the bootloader?
3. After I make a nandroid backup, can I just move the whole backup to the computer and when I need it I return it to the SD Card?
Help please? These are the only question I need answer for before I root. I just don't want to be stuck without a backup.
[email protected] said:
So couple of things I still do not understand:
1. You mean I should do a nandroid backup before I restore all the apps? (right after the root)
2. Right now my bootloader is locked. How can I backup my apps + app's settings so I will recover them after unlocking the bootloader?
3. After I make a nandroid backup, can I just move the whole backup to the computer and when I need it I return it to the SD Card?
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1. Make a backup after you rooted and installed the apps and data (passwords etc)
2. Use Helium Backup or Appmonster (Pro) or adb command: adb backup –apk –noshared –nosystem –f /backup/mybackup.ab
3. Yes.
I wouldn't use a toolkit (apart from backing up) especially if it's your first time rooting, it's always best to do it manually in my opinion; it may take a little longer, but then you'll know the ins and outs of what really happens and it will help if anything goes wrong.
Sent from my CM10.1 Nexus 4
gee2012 said:
1. Make a backup after you rooted and installed the apps and data (passwords etc)
2. Use Helium Backup or Appmonster (Pro) or adb command: adb backup –apk –noshared –nosystem –f /backup/mybackup.ab
3. Yes.
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1. But then I will have to install all the apps after the root, make a nandroid backup and then factory reset again to install PA rom. Shouldn't I just make a nandroid backup right after I root with no apps and stuff?
2. With adb backup, is it safe to restore to a different ROM than I used when I took the backup?
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For some reason, I backed up with "adb backup" and the backup's size is 500MB. When I backed up with Carbon (Helium), I got 40MB. I think I'll unlock bootloader + root, then restore the adb backup, then backup with Titanium and then flash PA rom. Is that the right process?
So I am currently on Paranoid Android and wish to switch to another ROM (most likely AOKP or PACman just to try). In TWRP recovery, what would I select to just back up my app data and NOT my ROM, and after that is possible, what must I restore to get it back and in what order of flashing alon with my new ROM and GAPPS???:silly:
You can go into TWRP and backup and choose what partitions you want to backup. However, I'd suggest you backup everything and don't try to restore the data to another ROM.
I use Titanium to backup all app data as well as MMS history, WiFi networks etc then do a full backup in TWRP. Then wipe everything and flash the new ROM. Then boot up and reconfigure accounts and restore apps + data with titanium.
It may be a little more effort but this way you can always roll back to the previous setup if anything goes wrong and you're less likely to run into any weird issues from moving data around between ROMs.
Or you could try something like app2zip off the play store to make a flashable zip of only selected apps and data which is probably safer than the whole partition. If you do a full backup first you can always rollback if something goes wrong.
When using Titanium Backup, when I hit run backup, where does it go and how do I restore it after I flash my new ROM. Or do I do the update.zip option and flash that when I'm doing my new ROM?
GraysonB said:
When using Titanium Backup, when I hit run backup, where does it go and how do I restore it after I flash my new ROM. Or do I do the update.zip option and flash that when I'm doing my new ROM?
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It goes into a folder on /sdcard called TitaniumBackup. When you flash a new rom, you will need to redownload titanium backup. When you redownload it, it will find the backups and you can click on the app to restore it.
Theres no need to use the update.zip method. Do it like this ^
Well, I really appreciate the pre rooted ROMS for the i9505 and everything is working good, even OTA and official status. :good:
As flashing a custom recovery makes it unofficial (so no OTA), the only way I've found in order to make a full nandroid backup is using the Online Nandroid Backup app from the Google Play Store. I obtained a CWM backup file that I stored on my external SD card.
Now, in order to make a full nandroid restore of my previous backup (not only apps but the whole system), I have to flash again a custom recovery. Sadly, when doing this, I have to reflash again the stock recovery, to use Triangle Away and to make a full wipe for having official status and OTA back again :crying:
I wonder if there is another way to restore my full nandroid bakcup without using a custom recovery or without affecting the flash counter/official status ?
Thanks !
I'm a newbie when it comes to all things Android. I have a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 which I've rooted.
I've installed a flashable zip via TWRP and I think it may be causing some problems. Due to lack of forsight, I did not make a backup.
So, how do I get everything back to stock so I can start from scratch and make a backup the right way? Can I use the factory reset option in TWRP?
The zip I flashed was supposed to unlock my wifi tethering, but it didn't work. I think it altered some system files.. If I use TWRP which boxes would i want checked?
Reflash stock rom of your device. It will be back to complete stock with no root what so ever
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I'm a newbie when it comes to all things Android. I have a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 which I've rooted.
I've installed a flashable zip via TWRP and I think it may be causing some problems. Due to lack of forsight, I did not make a backup.
So, how do I get everything back to stock so I can start from scratch and make a backup the right way? Can I use the factory reset option in TWRP?
The zip I flashed was supposed to unlock my wifi tethering, but it didn't work. I think it altered some system files.. If I use TWRP which boxes would i want checked?
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Factory reset does not help to revert back to stock.
Install Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app > Menu > 'Firmware Browser' to find and download stock firmware for your device.
Then boot into download mode and flash via Odin software.
vndnguyen said:
Factory reset does not help to revert back to stock.
Install Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app > Menu > 'Firmware Browser' to find and download stock firmware for your device.
Then boot into download mode and flash via Odin software.
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Just checked it out on the Play store; looks like it redirects to sammobile for firmware downloads. I already tried to download my firmware via sammobile on the PC and it seems like the link is currently broken. However, I found it over on samsung-updates. Hopefully that's a reputable site as well.
My plan is to re-flash with stock, re-root, install TWRP, and then immediately make a backup. Is that a solid plan, or should I use titanium backup before/instead of TWRP backup?
Also, are the default options in TWRP backup good enough? Is Titanium backup redundant if I use TWRP?
A TWRP makes a full backup of the ROM, so its more useful if you mess up and its is highly recommended you make one.
Titanium Backup is useful if you wanna change ROMs, but keep your apps and app data
Tom540 said:
A TWRP makes a full backup of the ROM, so its more useful if you mess up and its is highly recommended you make one.
Titanium Backup is useful if you wanna change ROMs, but keep your apps and app data
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So for example, let's say that I want to install some mods on top of the stock firmware (like this one that supposedly unlocks my wifi tethering). But then I change my mind and I want to revert back to stock -- I can restore my TWRP backup to revert back to before the mods were installed (with default backup options checked?) and then use titanium backup to restore my apps and app data?
What exactly happens if I back up with TWRP using default options and then restore? What will be different? I'm assuming that all of the apps that I installed since the backup will no longer be there?
lmills.117 said:
So for example, let's say that I want to install some mods on top of the stock firmware (like this one that supposedly unlocks my wifi tethering). But then I change my mind and I want to revert back to stock -- I can restore my TWRP backup to revert back to before the mods were installed (with default backup options checked?) and then use titanium backup to restore my apps and app data?
What exactly happens if I back up with TWRP using default options and then restore? What will be different? I'm assuming that all of the apps that I installed since the backup will no longer be there?
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Yep you are correct! Restoring the TWRP backup will restore the ROM, data, apps etc that were there when you made the backup; you can, however, use TB to backup any apps or data and then restore them when you restore the TWRP backup
Tom540 said:
Yep you are correct! Restoring the TWRP backup will restore the ROM, data, apps etc that were there when you made the backup; you can, however, use TB to backup any apps or data and then restore them when you restore the TWRP backup
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So, I just re-flashed the stock firmware and all of my apps are still there. The recovery mode went back to stock so I put TWRP back on. Then I rooted again and TWRP was gone again! What is going on..
lmills.117 said:
Just checked it out on the Play store; looks like it redirects to sammobile for firmware downloads. I already tried to download my firmware via sammobile on the PC and it seems like the link is currently broken. However, I found it over on samsung-updates. Hopefully that's a reputable site as well.
My plan is to re-flash with stock, re-root, install TWRP, and then immediately make a backup. Is that a solid plan, or should I use titanium backup before/instead of TWRP backup?
Also, are the default options in TWRP backup good enough? Is Titanium backup redundant if I use TWRP?
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In short, TWRP creates a backup of whole partition, e.g system partition - where Android OS is stored, userdata partition - where user data is stored (including all installed apps and their data, settings), etc...
While Titanium creates a backup of individual apps inside the userdata partition.
I have a n900w8 running cm11. I need to go back to stock.
I have a nandroid of my stock rom and was wondering if i can go back using my backup or if i need to use odin to downgrade?
Just want to make sure there are no issues with bootloaders etc if i restore my backup.
Thanks
Well as technically Nandroid backups are just a clone of your previous OS you should be able to flash it just fine, BUT you should not. Cause in doing that you will face several problems, multiple apps force closing would be one of them. So yes, just wipe the phone first, I mean a complete wipe, then flash a stock ROM of your choice via Odin, root, then restore apps with their data manually using Titanium. I mean the option in Titanium which says install the missing apks only, just hit on that, not the whole system wide restore, cause that will create problem too.
I don't know what model is that though, I have a N9005, so what I said might not even be applicable for your model.
Dyno-droid said:
I have a n900w8 running cm11. I need to go back to stock.
I have a nandroid of my stock rom and was wondering if i can go back using my backup or if i need to use odin to downgrade?
Just want to make sure there are no issues with bootloaders etc if i restore my backup.
Thanks
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Better to flash the latest stock firmware for your device via Odin.
and restore app(s) later.