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Reasons to root

My Nexus One will be here tomorrow, and I am wondering what the Pro's and Con's of rooting are.
I've rooted before. I had a G1, but I bricked it, accidentally. Won't stop me from rooting the Nexus, but just give me some reasons why.
I obviously know about cooked roms, etc. I've read about the Desire rom with Sense UI, is it worth it?
Just want your input.

The "search" function of the forums is a great feature. I've seen several threads about this very subject already.

Its definitely worth it! I enjoyed the phone stock, but when i rooted and went with cyanogen 5053. I couldnt happier. I thought the phone was fast already, but with the ROM, its a step above!
And plus some apps from the market are only for rooted phones. SetCPU (underclocking app) is one of them, and has helped me out with battery life. moderate use, i got about 18 hours yesterday with still 35% left on the battery.

MaximReapage said:
The "search" function of the forums is a great feature. I've seen several threads about this very subject already.
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I searched and didn't find much specific. Sorry we're not all search pros.
h2opoloplyr_11 said:
Its definitely worth it! I enjoyed the phone stock, but when i rooted and went with cyanogen 5053. I couldnt happier. I thought the phone was fast already, but with the ROM, its a step above!
And plus some apps from the market are only for rooted phones. SetCPU (underclocking app) is one of them, and has helped me out with battery life. moderate use, i got about 18 hours yesterday with still 35% left on the battery.
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Cyanogen always produces great roms. Maybe I'll give his a shot when my phone gets here

stuff said:
I searched and didn't find much specific. Sorry we're not all search pros.
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Lucky for you, I've made a great thread!
Check it out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655734

Its great how we have members that spam other members topics with unuseful replys just to get there post count up.
This is exactly why I don't post alot.
@stuff: I rooted my n1 and flashed cyanogen 5053 and gotta say it's alot faster! If your the kind of guy that gets alot of apps and games like me there is another feature of rooted phones called apps2sd. Apps2sd allows you to set a partition size of your choosing on your sd card for use of storing installed apps and games. That way you are not limited to the internal phone memory. Also as h2opoloplyr_11 stated there are some apps that require your phone to be rooted. Thats all I can think of right now as I am new to android and the n1 but I'm sure there are more reasons and more reasons to come as devs get creative.

stuff said:
I searched and didn't find much specific. Sorry we're not all search pros.
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And yeah, didn't find anything? Oh really?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647719&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627362&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643353&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644524&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640356&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635182&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629797&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623855&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620001&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617116&highlight=root
http://tmobileg1fans.com/index.php?topic=262.0
http://rootyourdroid.info/guides/benefits-of-root/
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Operating-System-Software/Benefits-of-Rooting/m-p/101568
http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/54804-benefits-rooting-without-installing-custom-roms.html
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-nexus/38224-benefits-rooting-n1.html
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-general-discussion/1078-benefits-rooting-nexus-one.html
http://onandroid.blogspot.com/2010/02/benefits-of-rooting-your-android.html
http://tinyurl.com/yg2phpy
You are just lazy and a liar.

Paul22000 said:
And yeah, didn't find anything? Oh really?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647719&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627362&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643353&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644524&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640356&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635182&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629797&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623855&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620001&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617116&highlight=root
http://tmobileg1fans.com/index.php?topic=262.0
http://rootyourdroid.info/guides/benefits-of-root/
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Operating-System-Software/Benefits-of-Rooting/m-p/101568
http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/54804-benefits-rooting-without-installing-custom-roms.html
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-nexus/38224-benefits-rooting-n1.html
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-general-discussion/1078-benefits-rooting-nexus-one.html
http://onandroid.blogspot.com/2010/02/benefits-of-rooting-your-android.html
http://tinyurl.com/yg2phpy
You are just lazy and a liar.
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Lol i liked that last one. how did you do it?

Austin021296 said:
Lol i liked that last one. how did you do it?
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www.lmgtfy.com
That's how.

Eclair~ said:
www.lmgtfy.com
That's how.
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This was a prime opportunity for something like this! http://tinyurl.com/djtvaf

Rick7C2 said:
Its great how we have members that spam other members topics with unuseful replys just to get there post count up.
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It has nothing to do with getting our post counts up and everything to do with having a clean, uncluttered and efficient forum. No one likes to see the same questions asked every few days. The point of a forum is for it to serve as a repository of information to help and educate future enthusiasts. This guy isn't special and somehow entitled to create another redundant thread instead of using the search function like the rest of us do.. Not to mention he said in his original post that he rooted his G1.

uansari1 said:
It has nothing to do with getting our post counts up and everything to do with having a clean, uncluttered and efficient forum. No one likes to see the same questions asked every few days. The point of a forum is for it to serve as a repository of information to help and educate future enthusiasts. This guy isn't special and somehow entitled to create another redundant thread instead of using the search function like the rest of us do.. Not to mention he said in his original post that he rooted his G1.
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Why the hell isn't there an official stickied topic listing the pros and cons of rooting your device. The first thing people would see before they go asking repeated questions would be that thread.

Good question...the info was stickies in the G1 forum..probably still is.
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uansari1 said:
everything to do with having a clean, uncluttered and efficient forum. No one likes to see the same questions asked every few days. The point of a forum is for it to serve as a repository of information to help and educate future enthusiasts.
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Which is why the op's question should have either been answered or his topic reported. What could have been very simple has turned to a two page topic with only a few post that actually answer the question and it's not because of the op. It's because of all the other post within the topic that are completely of topic including this one.

Rick7C2 said:
Which is why the op's question should have either been answered or his topic reported. What could have been very simple has turned to a two page topic with only a few post that actually answer the question and it's not because of the op. It's because of all the other post within the topic that are completely of topic including this one.
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I'll add to it then...
Every time someone asks THIS question. It's about 10 pages of people giving different great benefits. What difference is 2 pages telling the guy to Lrn2Surch
If someone is too lazy to SEARCH for benefits. Who would ever expect them to accomplish rooting, and the various benefits without further questions that have been seen 100's of times.

It seems like I've seen this topic before.

New to the X10 - suggestions?

My buddy just got an X10 - I'm very familiar with other android phones, but this one seems a little unique. I also noticed he is running 1.6.
What suggestions would you guys make?
Root possible? If so, what is the best method and custom ROM?
Are there plans for 2.1+ in the near future?
Any must have apps?
What are the safe apps to remove if root is possible?
You guys get the idea.. sorry for not browsing too much, but I can't learn a new phone in such a short period, especially when it's not mine.

s15274n said:
My buddy just got an X10 - I'm very familiar with other android phones, but this one seems a little unique. I also noticed he is running 1.6.
What suggestions would you guys make?
Root possible? If so, what is the best method and custom ROM?
Are there plans for 2.1+ in the near future?
Any must have apps?
What are the safe apps to remove if root is possible?
You guys get the idea.. sorry for not browsing too much, but I can't learn a new phone in such a short period, especially when it's not mine.
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sorry, but did you even open a single x10 thread before asking;P? hehe
yes, use oneclick.apk (for root)
we are all waiting for 2.1 these days(and last months)
estrongs file explorer, app manager, sec manager++ rock player, unifyed remote, at least
Edit: but guess you already knew that, oneclick is root/unroot, in guess what.. One click ;D

booyaga said:
sorry, but did you even open a single x10 thread before asking;P? hehe
yes, use oneclick.apk (for root)
we are all waiting for 2.1 these days(and last months)
estrongs file explorer, app manager, sec manager++ rock player, unifyed remote, at least ;D
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Good point.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

Trust me, read some of my posts for the phones I do own, and you will see I acknowledge how bad it is to post without researching, but I also admitted this is not my phone and do not want to put too much energy into it.
XDA is full of people willing to help, and you guys know this phone better than I ever will. My buddy could use some help...

booyaga said:
sorry, but did you even open a single x10 thread before askinghehe
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+1
s15274n said:
but I also admitted this is not my phone and do not want to put too much energy into it.
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Tell your friend to sign up here then and read the forum, that way people might put a bit more energy in to helping.

Wow. Thanks for all of the help. I'm going to head back to my section where I would have already received help. For the record, he was sent a link to XDA about 3 hours ago... that doesn't mean I'm not going to try and help.
Thanks again for EVERYTHING.

s15274n said:
Wow. Thanks for all of the help. I'm going to head back to my section where I would have already received help.
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Members in this section don't like to go over what's already been gone over many times before, especially when you've stated "read some of my posts for the phones I do own, and you will see I acknowledge how bad it is to post without researching" but then do so anyway.
If your friend joins, reads, then asks questions on the numerous threads which answer what you asked then people will be more than happy to help.

I just started on this site within the last few weeks, and everything you need to know could have been answered with about ten min of reading, less time than it took to post your questions and wait for replies
Sent from my X10a using XDA App

well be patient for the update 2.1 update

s15274n said:
Wow. Thanks for all of the help. I'm going to head back to my section where I would have already received help. For the record, he was sent a link to XDA about 3 hours ago... that doesn't mean I'm not going to try and help.
Thanks again for EVERYTHING.
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Sarcasm?
Did you miss the first reply in this thread answering your questions...?
Whatever you do, if you root, don't delete system apps. (IE: Timescape, Mediascape, Dialer, Browser).

[Q] Newcomer!

Hey guys I m a new comer in flashing rooms I don't now anything pls if anyone can tell me how could I install wp7 and what I will need and how will I get it and what are the risks? Help is very much appreciated....

"This sentence made unnecessary posts, thus Im removing it"
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924051
It has all the information you will/might need

Aggghhhhhhhh!

thanx much appreciated

Too those who want to flame, don't. Just don't.
There are vids on youtube with how to flash Roms.
It took me an entire day to understand all. There are so many things you need to do before you can flash a ROM.
This Video helped me allot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nac3Fnf-lY4
Read the description of this video, it holds all the programs, all the roms you need to begin your flashing adventure.
And ofc, Welcome

Toasit said:
Too those who want to flame, don't. Just don't. /QUOTE]
I agree nothing worse on forums IMHO. Worse than not searching =P
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JonnieLasVegas said:
Toasit said:
Too those who want to flame, don't. Just don't.
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I agree nothing worse on forums IMHO. Worse than not searching =P
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Well IMHO there is nothing worse then people creating topics like this because they are too lazy to click a search button or check the pinned topics of a forum. Questions like this have obviously going to have been asked before and answered already so have absolutely no need to be created again.

new to android world , want to root :)

ok im new to all this android thing so bare with me
my first android phone is the SGS2 its stock 2.3.5 unlocked and i want it rooted i readed and watched videos about how to do it and i think im rdy to do it i just need help with the kernel files so i dont make a mistake by chosing the wrong ones
can some put plz the rooted kernel and the original kernel so i can remove the triangle after
preferable as atachmed both ones ty
here about phone pic
imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/sc20111018172824.png

have a read of this

Darkside Agent said:
have a read of this
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im lucky you incrased your post count by 1 more usless post
if you dont want to help then dont post ffs

CF-Root, KI8 kernel, KI8 stock kernel.

Shomi87 said:
im lucky you incrased your post count by 1 more usless post
if you dont want to help then dont post ffs
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Lol, like post counts matter
If you don't want to educate yourself first and read up, then...
You know the rest

oinkylicious said:
CF-Root, KI8 kernel, KI8 stock kernel.
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tnx for help and not acting like an wiseazz like the other dude

But honestly, Darkside had a point but maybe not presented in the best way. I guess some people are tired of answering the same questions when there are clear posts/threads about it that are also easy to find.
I'm a beginner as well but I tend to look for a solution myself rather than asking. But we are all different I guess.

Such is society. The world is full of people who would prefer to have information hand fed to them. No wonder many people cannot infer from information.

Bergaliden said:
But honestly, Darkside had a point but maybe not presented in the best way. I guess some people are tired of answering the same questions when there are clear posts/threads about it that are also easy to find.
I'm a beginner as well but I tend to look for a solution myself rather than asking. But we are all different I guess.
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Your post explains EXACTLY where im coming from, thank you.
And the part about searching yourself is music to my ears.
yes, maybe i went about it the wrong way, i will admit that...BUT:
I know this isnt my forum, i have no say in anything on here at all...but its depressing having to read the same thing over and over and over - and all these threads do is push the good informative threads off the first couple of pages and makes it very hard to garner good honest information posted by people making a genuine effort to improve things for our phone.
Check the Q&A & General section, count how many ICS threads there are already...all talking about the same thing. Its like all of a sudden theres an influx of new members (probably young guys/girls) who are in a competition to feel part of something, and satisfy this need by posting threads on massive forums like this one without using the search function...that function is there for a reason, its mentioned in the rules and its just common sense to check if what you are about to post is already available...isnt it?
Maybe im completely wrong, maybe im looking at it the wrong way, but i now struggle to find anything of value on this forum because im wading through...well, you get my point....
/end rant
Shomi87 said:
tnx for help and not acting like an wiseazz like the other dude
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lol...feel superior now?

Darkside Agent said:
Your post explains EXACTLY where im coming from, thank you.
And the part about searching yourself is music to my ears.
yes, maybe i went about it the wrong way, i will admit that...BUT:
I know this isnt my forum, i have no say in anything on here at all...but its depressing having to read the same thing over and over and over - and all these threads do is push the good informative threads off the first couple of pages and makes it very hard to garner good honest information posted by people making a genuine effort to improve things for our phone.
Check the Q&A & General section, count how many ICS threads there are already...all talking about the same thing. Its like all of a sudden theres an influx of new members (probably young guys/girls) who are in a competition to feel part of something, and satisfy this need by posting threads on massive forums like this one without using the search function...that function is there for a reason, its mentioned in the rules and its just common sense to check if what you are about to post is already available...isnt it?
Maybe im completely wrong, maybe im looking at it the wrong way, but i now struggle to find anything of value on this forum because im wading through...well, you get my point....
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lol...feel superior now?
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I am not that clever, but I do know that Search & Read are the most valuable things to use this site. And if I am able to do it, then most can do as well.
I can understand if the Rooting and Flashing of ROMs was explained in a very technical way, but the posters have taken time to do step-by-step instructions. Okay sometimes for noobies it can still be confusing. I guarantee that if they read through that thread then they will have found someone already who asked that question for clarification (which will have been answered).
I am indebted to some very clever folk have developed programs or modified ROMs so that we can root and flash. And also to those who took the time to make the guides for us.
I only wish I knew how to go about learning about developing - it does seem to be a very steep learning curve.

Darkside Agent said:
Your post explains EXACTLY where im coming from, thank you.
And the part about searching yourself is music to my ears.
yes, maybe i went about it the wrong way, i will admit that...BUT:
I know this isnt my forum, i have no say in anything on here at all...but its depressing having to read the same thing over and over and over - and all these threads do is push the good informative threads off the first couple of pages and makes it very hard to garner good honest information posted by people making a genuine effort to improve things for our phone.
Check the Q&A & General section, count how many ICS threads there are already...all talking about the same thing. Its like all of a sudden theres an influx of new members (probably young guys/girls) who are in a competition to feel part of something, and satisfy this need by posting threads on massive forums like this one without using the search function...that function is there for a reason, its mentioned in the rules and its just common sense to check if what you are about to post is already available...isnt it?
Maybe im completely wrong, maybe im looking at it the wrong way, but i now struggle to find anything of value on this forum because im wading through...well, you get my point....
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lol...feel superior now?
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if its depresing for you to read it why you read it then and why post ?
just skip the thread then
and yes i feel ty

Shomi87 said:
if its depresing for you to read it why you read it then and why post ?
just skip the thread then
and yes i feel ty
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How is he supposed to know what you have posted without reading it. You may have tried searching & reading but there was a problem with actually doing the rooting.
There are a lot of folks on here that English is not their first language, so may need help with following the instructions.
If you have learned to use the best thing on this site - the Search - then his reply was worth it.

Shomi87 said:
im lucky you incrased your post count by 1 more usless post
if you dont want to help then dont post ffs
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No you're the useless one who can't read. It's in the bloody stickies FFS.
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olyloh6696 said:
No you're the useless one who can't read. It's in the bloody stickies FFS.
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what ever i asked about the files to be sure i didnt ask for whole root procedure now gtfo

Shomi87 said:
what ever i asked about the files to be sure i didnt ask for whole root procedure now gtfo
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Oooh. You got me there.
If you can't find the kernel in the development section you obviously must be too thick. USE THE SEATCH BUTTON.
Er, no I won't 'gtfo'
You get out with your pointless posts.
And with your attitude, no one is going to help you out.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using xda premium

saying to some1 use the search button is not helping
you think idk to use the search buton ? i used it i found the files i just wanted to be sure if those r the right ones
now srsly stop posting **** i dont need your "use search button" replays

Shomi87 said:
saying to some1 use the search button is not helping
you think idk to use the search buton ? i used it i found the files i just wanted to be sure if those r the right ones
now srsly stop posting **** i dont need your "use search button" replays
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Clearly you didn't use the search button, or you'd have found the answer quickly. Or if you bothered to check the stickies for the kernels, or read through the thread.
If the files have already been posted by the developer and confirmed working, why are you asking people if its 'safe'?
And yes, asking people to use the search button is useful, if you even bothered to read the XDA rules.
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blow me ?
10characters dooh

Shomi87 said:
saying to some1 use the search button is not helping
you think idk to use the search buton ? i used it i found the files i just wanted to be sure if those r the right ones
now srsly stop posting **** i dont need your "use search button" replays
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I have to agree with Olyloh6696 on this one. The advice given was quite acceptable. Everyday new threads are started for no reason when the info is already available. Some people just want to be spoon fed simple information. Maybe they are in a rush to solve their problem and decide why spend hours looking when I can just start a new thread and ask. Only problem is; hours of other peoples time is waisted looking at threads like this one.

Shomi87 said:
blow me ?
10characters dooh
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You have a very cocky attitude. No one will want to help you in the future.
'Blow me' possibly the worst insult I have ever heard.
And you've used it twice before you edited your other post.
Ha.
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[Q] A few questions about the

Hi,
I've just got this phone today and i'm actually quite impressed with it, my last Sammy was an S3, i've had HTC and Sony ever since, I go the gear fit with my phone too which works quite well too.
One thing i'd like to know, is there a way to root the device so that it can be unrooted and no one will tell, not even samsung, I don't care for a custom rom i'd just like to be able to use a few mods.
Plus will the gear fit still work with the device if it's rooted ???
Many thanks

dladz said:
is there a way to root the device so that it can be unrooted and no one will tell, not even samsung
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Yes.
My question to you in turn would be why, after 3,597 posts, you don't try searching the forum first before posting a question? Or peruse a few threads at the top, either of which would have readily answered such a common query.
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Christ my first post and I'm shot down in flames.. to answer your question I was in work and extremely busy. I had no time and a lot on. Thought I'd come home to a welcome to the s5 forum. Obviously I was wrong. Thanks for answering..
If i could offer some advice, perhaps you could practice not saying things like that to people, q and a is for questions and answers, it isn't an excuse to act like a ****.
Close this thread please mod.
I literally give up on xda.
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dladz said:
Christ my first post
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3,597 posts = first post?
It's clear that you are looking to be spoon fed and firmly believe that your time is so much more valuable than ours.
Thank you for making your position clear.
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Wow you are pathetic, do me a favour and never answer any of my posts.
First of all ill explain a little deeper as regards to my question as you obviously didn't get my point.
Q1) is there a root method that is reversable without losing warranty or anyone knowing about it namely Samsung?
Secondly does rooting mess with the gear fit..
Thirdly, why do you have little man syndrome? Is it because you are a little man? No reason to take it out on me, I was polite and courteous to whomever answered me but your response is both rude and uncouth, not to mention presumptuous. I think you should quit while you are ahead, my question was bespoke, you need to but out and stop typing.. bottom line here is that you wouldn't be talking to me like this if I was speaking to you face to face. For that reason alone, I suggest you don't reply..
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dladz said:
Wow you are pathetic, do me a favour and never answer any of my posts.
First of all ill explain a little deeper as regards to my question as you obviously didn't get my point.
Q1) is there a root method that is reversable without losing warranty or anyone knowing about it namely Samsung?
Secondly does rooting mess with the gear fit..
Thirdly, why do you have little man syndrome? Is it because you are a little man? No reason to take it out on me, I was polite and courteous to whomever answered me but your response is both rude and uncouth, not to mention presumptuous. I think you should quit while you are ahead, my question was bespoke, you need to but out and stop typing.. bottom line here is that you wouldn't be talking to me like this if I was speaking to you face to face. For that reason alone, I suggest you don't reply..
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stop hating and flaming my friend , it might be misunderstanding.
and about the root thing, yes there is a way and its an app called towelroot , you can download it from the site towelroot.com/tr
and about the gear fit thing I dont know because I dont have one but I dont think that if you root your phone it will mess with it.
anyway if anything goes wrong you can always unroot with SuperSu app
hope that I helped

Galaxy_Guy said:
stop hating and flaming my friend , it might be misunderstanding.
and about the root thing, yes there is a way and its an app called towelroot , you can download it from the site towelroot.com/tr
and about the gear fit thing I dont know because I dont have one but I dont think that if you root your phone it will mess with it.
anyway if anything goes wrong you can always unroot with SuperSu app
hope that I helped
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Cheers m8, appreciate it. Sorry for going off on one..
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dladz said:
Cheers m8, appreciate it. Sorry for going off on one..
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no problem mate , never mind and you are welcome

Galaxy_Guy said:
no problem mate , never mind and you are welcome
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Sometimes its not what someone says, but how it is said that may annoy some people

gee2012 said:
Sometimes its not what someone says, but how it is said that may annoy some people
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That's very true, different cultures clashing sometimes causes issues like that whereas one won't see any problem with saying something in a particular way but it wasn't that, I've literally just got the device, didn't want a slanging match, just wanted a bit of advice, if someone knew then it'd be a lot less hassle to just say it rather than attempt to police the forum.
There's nearly 6 million users on XDA and that's registered users, even if a sixth of those people repeatedly ask questions by the time you've told each and every single one of them that they should search first, you'd more than likely have aged 20 years.
As for the original question, I ended up rooting using towel root, the gear fit still works as expected so all is well, many thanks for all the input, it's appreciated. And lol don't worry i'll be searching in the future, was just very rushed at the time and had a lot going on.
Cheers