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Reasons to root

My Nexus One will be here tomorrow, and I am wondering what the Pro's and Con's of rooting are.
I've rooted before. I had a G1, but I bricked it, accidentally. Won't stop me from rooting the Nexus, but just give me some reasons why.
I obviously know about cooked roms, etc. I've read about the Desire rom with Sense UI, is it worth it?
Just want your input.

The "search" function of the forums is a great feature. I've seen several threads about this very subject already.

Its definitely worth it! I enjoyed the phone stock, but when i rooted and went with cyanogen 5053. I couldnt happier. I thought the phone was fast already, but with the ROM, its a step above!
And plus some apps from the market are only for rooted phones. SetCPU (underclocking app) is one of them, and has helped me out with battery life. moderate use, i got about 18 hours yesterday with still 35% left on the battery.

MaximReapage said:
The "search" function of the forums is a great feature. I've seen several threads about this very subject already.
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I searched and didn't find much specific. Sorry we're not all search pros.
h2opoloplyr_11 said:
Its definitely worth it! I enjoyed the phone stock, but when i rooted and went with cyanogen 5053. I couldnt happier. I thought the phone was fast already, but with the ROM, its a step above!
And plus some apps from the market are only for rooted phones. SetCPU (underclocking app) is one of them, and has helped me out with battery life. moderate use, i got about 18 hours yesterday with still 35% left on the battery.
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Cyanogen always produces great roms. Maybe I'll give his a shot when my phone gets here

stuff said:
I searched and didn't find much specific. Sorry we're not all search pros.
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Lucky for you, I've made a great thread!
Check it out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655734

Its great how we have members that spam other members topics with unuseful replys just to get there post count up.
This is exactly why I don't post alot.
@stuff: I rooted my n1 and flashed cyanogen 5053 and gotta say it's alot faster! If your the kind of guy that gets alot of apps and games like me there is another feature of rooted phones called apps2sd. Apps2sd allows you to set a partition size of your choosing on your sd card for use of storing installed apps and games. That way you are not limited to the internal phone memory. Also as h2opoloplyr_11 stated there are some apps that require your phone to be rooted. Thats all I can think of right now as I am new to android and the n1 but I'm sure there are more reasons and more reasons to come as devs get creative.

stuff said:
I searched and didn't find much specific. Sorry we're not all search pros.
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And yeah, didn't find anything? Oh really?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647719&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627362&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643353&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644524&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640356&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635182&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629797&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623855&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620001&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617116&highlight=root
http://tmobileg1fans.com/index.php?topic=262.0
http://rootyourdroid.info/guides/benefits-of-root/
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Operating-System-Software/Benefits-of-Rooting/m-p/101568
http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/54804-benefits-rooting-without-installing-custom-roms.html
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-nexus/38224-benefits-rooting-n1.html
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-general-discussion/1078-benefits-rooting-nexus-one.html
http://onandroid.blogspot.com/2010/02/benefits-of-rooting-your-android.html
http://tinyurl.com/yg2phpy
You are just lazy and a liar.

Paul22000 said:
And yeah, didn't find anything? Oh really?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647719&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627362&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643353&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644524&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640356&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635182&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629797&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623855&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620001&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617116&highlight=root
http://tmobileg1fans.com/index.php?topic=262.0
http://rootyourdroid.info/guides/benefits-of-root/
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Operating-System-Software/Benefits-of-Rooting/m-p/101568
http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/54804-benefits-rooting-without-installing-custom-roms.html
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-nexus/38224-benefits-rooting-n1.html
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-general-discussion/1078-benefits-rooting-nexus-one.html
http://onandroid.blogspot.com/2010/02/benefits-of-rooting-your-android.html
http://tinyurl.com/yg2phpy
You are just lazy and a liar.
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Lol i liked that last one. how did you do it?

Austin021296 said:
Lol i liked that last one. how did you do it?
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www.lmgtfy.com
That's how.

Eclair~ said:
www.lmgtfy.com
That's how.
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This was a prime opportunity for something like this! http://tinyurl.com/djtvaf

Rick7C2 said:
Its great how we have members that spam other members topics with unuseful replys just to get there post count up.
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It has nothing to do with getting our post counts up and everything to do with having a clean, uncluttered and efficient forum. No one likes to see the same questions asked every few days. The point of a forum is for it to serve as a repository of information to help and educate future enthusiasts. This guy isn't special and somehow entitled to create another redundant thread instead of using the search function like the rest of us do.. Not to mention he said in his original post that he rooted his G1.

uansari1 said:
It has nothing to do with getting our post counts up and everything to do with having a clean, uncluttered and efficient forum. No one likes to see the same questions asked every few days. The point of a forum is for it to serve as a repository of information to help and educate future enthusiasts. This guy isn't special and somehow entitled to create another redundant thread instead of using the search function like the rest of us do.. Not to mention he said in his original post that he rooted his G1.
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Why the hell isn't there an official stickied topic listing the pros and cons of rooting your device. The first thing people would see before they go asking repeated questions would be that thread.

Good question...the info was stickies in the G1 forum..probably still is.
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uansari1 said:
everything to do with having a clean, uncluttered and efficient forum. No one likes to see the same questions asked every few days. The point of a forum is for it to serve as a repository of information to help and educate future enthusiasts.
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Which is why the op's question should have either been answered or his topic reported. What could have been very simple has turned to a two page topic with only a few post that actually answer the question and it's not because of the op. It's because of all the other post within the topic that are completely of topic including this one.

Rick7C2 said:
Which is why the op's question should have either been answered or his topic reported. What could have been very simple has turned to a two page topic with only a few post that actually answer the question and it's not because of the op. It's because of all the other post within the topic that are completely of topic including this one.
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I'll add to it then...
Every time someone asks THIS question. It's about 10 pages of people giving different great benefits. What difference is 2 pages telling the guy to Lrn2Surch
If someone is too lazy to SEARCH for benefits. Who would ever expect them to accomplish rooting, and the various benefits without further questions that have been seen 100's of times.

It seems like I've seen this topic before.

Glorious - Blackhole 4.2

Hello everyone...
I want so badly to be able to post in teh Dev section to thank people for their work, but I do not have enough posts to do so...
I am a lurker - new to the Android world and loving every second of it... I generally do not believe in superfluous posts, but I need to simply reach 10 so I can thank people for their hard work and assist anyone running into issues that I also hit...
That said, I wanted to let you all know that I installed Blackhole 4.2 yesterday and it is wonderful. So as soon as it drops on here, consider it. I am using the phone that I have always wanted - and I am sure it will stay exactly the way it is for at least a week or two... until the next big exciting change gets made.
I truley never thought I would enjoy tinkering with a phone, modding bits and pieces of it so much... Sure, I have been modding cars for years, but now a phone... I am hooked and I want to thank this community for the wealth of info that we find in here and the good attitudes that go along with it...
Samsung Fascinate, EB01, Blackhole 4.2 FTW
Thank you Sonofskywalker3 for ALL your hard work!!

Good wirte up until you hit the "good attitudes that go along with it."
make a bad step an XDA and this place can be a bear!!

There's a thank you button for that. ;-)
Btw .... glorious ... Blackhole. I giggled a little.
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Yep Blackhole is the heat. I was going to start a new thread until I searched..lol but Im gonna give Blackhole (sonofskywalker3) and Super Dark (thatdudebutch) a huge shoutout. I've been using this combo from the beginning and have no reason to change up. Do yourself a favor and give it a try when it drops!!

JoeDat said:
Btw .... glorious ... Blackhole. I giggled a little.
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I could not resist...
I forget about the thanks button...

Where is this available? Can't seem to find it in the development section?
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Are you a VIP? I don't see the rom anywhere, so you must have the VIP privilege to download it before everyone else.

Its available now. Check development section and/or rom manager.
I actually like my Fascinate

iviustang50h said:
Are you a VIP? I don't see the rom anywhere, so you must have the VIP privilege to download it before everyone else.
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After doing some searching around I see now what this VIP stuff is all about.
Brings me back to my Blackberry Storm days
I am not VIP, but someone had just mentioned it is now avail so I will check it out there
Thanks

^ Cool - thanks. I am downloading it now.

How to update STOCK 2.1 Evo to 2.3.3 WITHOUT Root?

Hello people! My friend has an Evo that is still on 2.1 and she wants to update to 2.3.3. The OTA isn't working (saying that there isn't an update) and when we called sprint tech support, they said that they would have to create a trouble ticket and go to the store. We called the closest store to her, and they are back up until tomorrow. I told her I could flash it manually (without rooting it)....but i should have kept my mouth shut, because I cannot find a normal 2.3.3. RUU, and am not sure if I should first up her to 2.2. then to 2.3 anyway (oops).
So now I'm on the hook, lol!
So, where can I find STOCK, NON ROOTED RUU's (I've checked the wiki)
And should I upgrade her to 2.2, then to 2.3?
Root is an option, I just didn't feel like doing it (I see Unrevoked would work for 2.1 still)
Thanks for any help guys!

Journeyjeans said:
Hello people! My friend has an Evo that is still on 2.1 and she wants to update to 2.3.3. The OTA isn't working (saying that there isn't an update) and when we called sprint tech support, they said that they would have to create a trouble ticket and go to the store. We called the closest store to her, and they are back up until tomorrow. I told her I could flash it manually (without rooting it)....but i should have kept my mouth shut, because I cannot find a normal 2.3.3. RUU, and am not sure if I should first up her to 2.2. then to 2.3 anyway (oops).
So now I'm on the hook, lol!
So, where can I find STOCK, NON ROOTED RUU's (I've checked the wiki)
And should I upgrade her to 2.2, then to 2.3?
Root is an option, I just didn't feel like doing it (I see Unrevoked would work for 2.1 still)
Thanks for any help guys!
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http://tinyurl.com/6ktremy

Try this...
PC36IMG.zip - Flash From Bootloader
PC36IMG_SuperSonic_GB_Sprint_WWE_4.24.651.1_Radio_ 2.15.00.05.02_NV_2.15_release_199233_signed
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VSFLE9CD
http://www.fileserve.com/file/3rVYVfd
Or RUU here...
LATEST EVO RUU(DOWNLOAD LINK):
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cd58...995_signed.exe

lithid-cm said:
http://tinyurl.com/6ktremy
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Thanks, good to know that the job of a** hat is still available during the recession. Too bad none of the results answered my questions.

Thanks dude. I also found the RUU's over here.
I still don't know if I should step her up 2.1>2.2>2.3 or go straight to 2.3 though.
tropicalbrit said:
Try this...
PC36IMG.zip - Flash From Bootloader
PC36IMG_SuperSonic_GB_Sprint_WWE_4.24.651.1_Radio_ 2.15.00.05.02_NV_2.15_release_199233_signed
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VSFLE9CD
http://www.fileserve.com/file/3rVYVfd
Or RUU here...
LATEST EVO RUU(DOWNLOAD LINK):
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cd58...995_signed.exe
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Journeyjeans said:
Thanks, good to know that the job of a** hat is still available during the recession. Too bad none of the results answered my questions.
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Should learn to read. I might be an asshat, but I know how to read.

lithid-cm said:
Should learn to read. I might be an asshat, but I know how to read.
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Maybe you should take your own advice. Read what I asked. Look at the "help" you gave me. Thanks.

Try lithid's method....search.

^ agreed
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Evo4gLI said:
Try lithid's method....search.
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Seriously, when the EVO 3D and GS2 came out, did all the brains leave this forum? What part of "Stock, Unrooted" RUU is so difficult to comprehend....?
1. None of the links in his "search" had what I was looking for.
2. I found my own answer above (see post #5), and updated her hours ago.
3. Thanks to Tropicalbrit for actually reading my question....god.
Edit: Seriously, thanks Tropicalbrit. The XDA I once knew was better than this.

Some of us are still here, being adults

HipKat said:
Some of us are still here, being adults
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Then there are a couple teenagers like me, filling in for adults
HipKat, teh roxxorz, Lithid, dased14 (who mostly hangs out in Themes and Apps), and several others provide great help. They've answered plenty of my questions before.
Lithid did SalvageMod and Freedom kernel, dased14 makes dozens of flashable zips with themes and mods, HipKat and teh roxxorz have made guides for subjects of all sorts. Everyone has their own personalities though so its something to get used to.
Believe me when I say the Evo 4G forum is one of the better ones. I frequent basically every Sprint / Verizon phone forum and I cannot stand all of the whining and fights. We have a strong developing team and plenty of people qualified to answer questions.
I'm just here to fill in the cracks, my knowledge is limited. The forum is a bit confusing at times, but you'll get used to it. I'm here to keep the peace and help out as much as I can.
Okay. I got off-topic, I don't see relevance in this post anymore. Glad your problem is solved

Journeyjeans said:
Seriously, when the EVO 3D and GS2 came out, did all the brains leave this forum? What part of "Stock, Unrooted" RUU is so difficult to comprehend....?
1. None of the links in his "search" had what I was looking for.
2. I found my own answer above (see post #5), and updated her hours ago.
3. Thanks to Tropicalbrit for actually reading my question....god.
Edit: Seriously, thanks Tropicalbrit. The XDA I once knew was better than this.
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I actually have no problem helping people, it's just people like you who piss and moan and yell at the people trying to help when they don't get exactly what they need in the first response. If you don't like the answers we give you, feel free to go do it yourself. Think the 3D forums are so great? Go buy and 3D and hang out over there.

Evo4gLI said:
I actually have no problem helping people, it's just people like you who piss and moan and yell at the people trying to help when they don't get exactly what they need in the first response. If you don't like the answers we give you, feel free to go do it yourself. Think the 3D forums are so great? Go buy and 3D and hang out over there.
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Piss and Moan and Yell? Really? You did not just see lithid try to be a smartass, and ended up looking stupid?
You don't see yourself looking stupid along with him?
I don't care about "who's who" and "who did what", I'm not a Stan, and cheerleader is not on my resume. If you treat someone with respect, you get respect, point blank.
Look, I'm done. I solved my own problem (that I spelled out quite clearly I might add), and one guy actually read and understood and helped out too, for which I am grateful. Take care.

Journeyjeans said:
Piss and Moan and Yell? Really? You did not just see lithid try to be a smartass, and ended up looking stupid?
You don't see yourself looking stupid along with him?
I don't care about "who's who" and "who did what", I'm not a Stan, and cheerleader is not on my resume. If you treat someone with respect, you get respect, point blank.
Look, I'm done. I solved my own problem (that I spelled out quite clearly I might add), and one guy actually read and understood and helped out too, for which I am grateful. Take care.
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You must wear skinny jeans, ****s all uptight... Can't take a joke.
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I didn't know u could flash something without root...
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**super_flasher** said:
I didn't know u could flash something without root...
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Only an RUU. An RUU is a .exe which wipes everything off your phone and returns the phone to bone HTC stock, that's all
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noob alert

hello fellow galaxy note users. i'm new to android and forums so i will ask for some guidance. can some one give me some suggestions what i should do to my great new phone and make it better. i would like some advice on using forum thank you to every one that will help guide a noob

Read this thread completely
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557549
ROOT Samsung Galaxy Note
See if you know what you want to achieve!!
Then specifically ask the question!!
All are happy to help!!
SHOT from my LOADED GT-N7000!!

Innerstation said:
i would like some advice on using forum.
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The advice is quite simple: read, read and read. Don't be a dyslexic like many round here.

geo.samuel said:
Read this thread completely
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557549
ROOT Samsung Galaxy Note
See if you know what you want to achieve!!
Then specifically ask the question!!
All are happy to help!!
SHOT from my LOADED GT-N7000!!
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good reading thank you

chasmodo said:
The advice is quite simple: read, read and read. Don't be a dyslexic like many round here.
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also helpful but now i'm tired of reading but i understand a lot i didn't know earlier

Doesn't matter. Reeeead some more!

geo.samuel said:
See if you know what you want to achieve!!
Then specifically ask the question!!
All are happy to help!!
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i know what i want now. i rooted my phone so how about some suggestion
best way to backup phone
what are your most used apps would like to try some you use
i looked but cant find in setting menu how to make the ringtone play normal

- Get CWM backup, to full backup your device, if you have used ghost/acronis for your PC, it is just like that. another is titanium backup, My backup Pro
- Its depends on your taste, As i always have >100 non stock app on my device, difficult to say which one you like, just search market for different category
- I don't understand your question, but i guess you saying about ascending ring tone??
if yes, there are some mods/ROM available to disacble it. find in development section.

You dont need to root your Note to make it better. It is perfect as it is. Dont listen to these guys wanting you to root unles that is what you want of course

You are already late m8
If you had carefully read 2 post above yours, you cud find, he has already rooted.
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dr.ketan said:
- Get CWM backup, to full backup your device, if you have used ghost/acronis for your PC, it is just like that. another is titanium backup, My backup Pro
- Its depends on your taste, As i always have >100 non stock app on my device, difficult to say which one you like, just search market for different category
- I don't understand your question, but i guess you saying about ascending ring tone??
if yes, there are some mods/ROM available to disacble it. find in development section.
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thank you dr.ketan your advice was most helpful about titanium backup. it's a little hard at first but now i understand. i'm coming from a regular phone so this is all very different and exciting for me. i bought it to join 2012 lol

dr.ketan said:
You are already late m8
If you had carefully read 2 post above yours, you cud find, he has already rooted.
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Sorry friend. My bad.

[Q] A few questions about the

Hi,
I've just got this phone today and i'm actually quite impressed with it, my last Sammy was an S3, i've had HTC and Sony ever since, I go the gear fit with my phone too which works quite well too.
One thing i'd like to know, is there a way to root the device so that it can be unrooted and no one will tell, not even samsung, I don't care for a custom rom i'd just like to be able to use a few mods.
Plus will the gear fit still work with the device if it's rooted ???
Many thanks

dladz said:
is there a way to root the device so that it can be unrooted and no one will tell, not even samsung
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Yes.
My question to you in turn would be why, after 3,597 posts, you don't try searching the forum first before posting a question? Or peruse a few threads at the top, either of which would have readily answered such a common query.
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Christ my first post and I'm shot down in flames.. to answer your question I was in work and extremely busy. I had no time and a lot on. Thought I'd come home to a welcome to the s5 forum. Obviously I was wrong. Thanks for answering..
If i could offer some advice, perhaps you could practice not saying things like that to people, q and a is for questions and answers, it isn't an excuse to act like a ****.
Close this thread please mod.
I literally give up on xda.
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dladz said:
Christ my first post
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3,597 posts = first post?
It's clear that you are looking to be spoon fed and firmly believe that your time is so much more valuable than ours.
Thank you for making your position clear.
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Wow you are pathetic, do me a favour and never answer any of my posts.
First of all ill explain a little deeper as regards to my question as you obviously didn't get my point.
Q1) is there a root method that is reversable without losing warranty or anyone knowing about it namely Samsung?
Secondly does rooting mess with the gear fit..
Thirdly, why do you have little man syndrome? Is it because you are a little man? No reason to take it out on me, I was polite and courteous to whomever answered me but your response is both rude and uncouth, not to mention presumptuous. I think you should quit while you are ahead, my question was bespoke, you need to but out and stop typing.. bottom line here is that you wouldn't be talking to me like this if I was speaking to you face to face. For that reason alone, I suggest you don't reply..
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dladz said:
Wow you are pathetic, do me a favour and never answer any of my posts.
First of all ill explain a little deeper as regards to my question as you obviously didn't get my point.
Q1) is there a root method that is reversable without losing warranty or anyone knowing about it namely Samsung?
Secondly does rooting mess with the gear fit..
Thirdly, why do you have little man syndrome? Is it because you are a little man? No reason to take it out on me, I was polite and courteous to whomever answered me but your response is both rude and uncouth, not to mention presumptuous. I think you should quit while you are ahead, my question was bespoke, you need to but out and stop typing.. bottom line here is that you wouldn't be talking to me like this if I was speaking to you face to face. For that reason alone, I suggest you don't reply..
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stop hating and flaming my friend , it might be misunderstanding.
and about the root thing, yes there is a way and its an app called towelroot , you can download it from the site towelroot.com/tr
and about the gear fit thing I dont know because I dont have one but I dont think that if you root your phone it will mess with it.
anyway if anything goes wrong you can always unroot with SuperSu app
hope that I helped

Galaxy_Guy said:
stop hating and flaming my friend , it might be misunderstanding.
and about the root thing, yes there is a way and its an app called towelroot , you can download it from the site towelroot.com/tr
and about the gear fit thing I dont know because I dont have one but I dont think that if you root your phone it will mess with it.
anyway if anything goes wrong you can always unroot with SuperSu app
hope that I helped
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Cheers m8, appreciate it. Sorry for going off on one..
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dladz said:
Cheers m8, appreciate it. Sorry for going off on one..
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no problem mate , never mind and you are welcome

Galaxy_Guy said:
no problem mate , never mind and you are welcome
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Sometimes its not what someone says, but how it is said that may annoy some people

gee2012 said:
Sometimes its not what someone says, but how it is said that may annoy some people
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That's very true, different cultures clashing sometimes causes issues like that whereas one won't see any problem with saying something in a particular way but it wasn't that, I've literally just got the device, didn't want a slanging match, just wanted a bit of advice, if someone knew then it'd be a lot less hassle to just say it rather than attempt to police the forum.
There's nearly 6 million users on XDA and that's registered users, even if a sixth of those people repeatedly ask questions by the time you've told each and every single one of them that they should search first, you'd more than likely have aged 20 years.
As for the original question, I ended up rooting using towel root, the gear fit still works as expected so all is well, many thanks for all the input, it's appreciated. And lol don't worry i'll be searching in the future, was just very rushed at the time and had a lot going on.
Cheers