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http://briefmobile.com/cyanogenmod-9-construction-under-way
Can't wait to see how well the atrix handles it!
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I can't wait!
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
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haha...the car hasn't made much progress, we spent a lot of time getting our house on the market and are looking to buy, so all of my free time has been for 'family and home stuff' Someday...
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http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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thats just another way of saying they dont support gfx drivers in the stock AOSP for other devices - nvidia still provides those for the tegra2, so it should sitll be possible to get hw acceleration on the atrix
its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
Tegra will get ICS from the LG 2X and we'll probably get a port from there. That's the least of the worries.
Many additional drivers will also be needed such as GPS, FP, possibly Bluetooth and wifi...etc
Plus, no official release will, if true, means many bugs and hiccups. That's what I've been saying all along here in the ICS jerking threads.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
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Xoom uses a different Tegra 2 SoC than the Atrix. Our best chances come from G2X, Photon, and Droid 2X. Xoom uses Tegra 250 T20 whereas smartphones use Tegra 250 AP20H. Even then, it's going to be a hack-up job since they aren't the same devices. It will definitely not run as well as if we had an official ICS release.
EDIT: The reason why is that the driver + proprietary libraries needed for hardware acceleration are built for a specific kernel. We don't share kernels with those devices regardless of how similar the devices are. They'd have to compare the 2 different kernels (a 2.3.4 vs a 4.0.1 mind you) and try and merge in the differences necessary to get hardware acceleration working. All in all, it will be the Atrix running on a hacked up gingerbread kernel and drivers trying to run ICS.
Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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I did say that. But the problem is that it just that, a hacked together kernel and gpu driver. radio, wifi, bluetooth, etc. will still be on GB drivers. It would never run as well as if we had native ICS drivers and kernel.
How bout we just wait and find out?
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How bout we just wait and find out?
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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You must know all this since you know the future huh?
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There you have it folks, sit tight and wait for Nvidia. Once we have all the required drivers, we are set I hope this settles everyone down.
Please let me know if this thread is in the wrong place, but i think it's best in General (also makes a nice change from MIUI begging )
NVIDIA has been working with Google and Motorola to provide the open source community with the required drivers and other binary code to build full Android OS images for the Tegra 2 powered "Motorola Xoom". We expect Google to make those components available as part of the Android Open Source Project soon.
In addition, NVIDIA is working on a full release of Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) for our Tegra 2 Dual Core and Tegra 3 Quad Core reference devices to be made available early next year. This release package will comprise of binary code, drivers developed on our reference platforms and any patches necessary to ensure stability & performance with ICS. We hope the open source community can leverage this release for their work on all Tegra devices.
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That's great news!
Thanks for sharing
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That's great news!
Thanks for sharing
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Couldn't believe it at first! I checked here to confirm it was true but there was no thread, so i decided to share the good news! I was worrying that our device was being forgotten about, but i guess the real fun starts early 2012!
Hooray!
Awesome news! I'm gonna have this phone for at least another 18 months, so this is very encouraging!
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Bumping this so people will stop worrying/complaining about Nvidia and Motorola.
Also, IF Moto release ICS with blur and without webtop, would you go for it? I personally would, but i know some of you people love webtop.
Tegra kernal here:
http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git
btw another proof:
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
Does this mean full cm7 and MIUI support? Or is it mainly for ICS?
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Tegra kernal here:
http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git
btw another proof:
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
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Where do you see any proof? Newest kernel is for 3.2. Btw we need binaries and drivers.
Great news now let's hope they do it in a timely manner
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Bumping this so people will stop worrying/complaining about Nvidia and Motorola.
Also, IF Moto release ICS with blur and without webtop, would you go for it? I personally would, but i know some of you people love webtop.
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I would as long as it has landscape hdmi mirror on the lapdock.
Yay for hardware acceleration and true cm9!
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Yay for hardware acceleration and true cm9!
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+10000000000000
With landscape mirroring
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I may be wrong but aren't the drivers and libraries for tegra2 ics already available in AOSP. tegra2 is tegra2 there shouldnt be much difference between xoom and atrix same hardware bigger screen. But I could be off base so dont flame me LOL
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I may be wrong but aren't the drivers and libraries for tegra2 ics already available in AOSP. tegra2 is tegra2 there shouldnt be much difference between xoom and atrix same hardware bigger screen. But I could be off base so dont flame me LOL
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I think you are partially right, but as you said, the drivers are for the Xoom and every device has unique drivers. It would probably be too difficult and time consuming to use/hack the Xoom's drivers for the Atrix and everything will not be the same as having the actual Atrix files.
Hmm... I figured using xoom.Drivers would make it easy. What about the g2x? Its a phone which may eliminate hassles, with nearly the same specs, save for it not being moto.
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http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources
Is this something we were waiting for? Or we need the source code?
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According to this https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/9nb8sajTX18 (see comments after 23 january) nvidia should also publish some "reference code" in early 2012 which would be helpful
Has anyone recieved any news on the Tegra 2 and ICS?
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Has anyone recieved any news on the Tegra 2 and ICS?
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Give me a break!!!
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Has anyone recieved any news on the Tegra 2 and ICS?
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What the hell, man? You made me think there was real news!
I saw a thread on the rootzwiki.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10579-romalpha9-ics4bionic-12-18-2011/page__pid__257688#entry257688
The most common issue of ICS on the tegra 2 devices is no sound even in calling.
But it seems they fixed this problem. Is it useful for porting ICS on our device?
It would be a great starting point as the Bionic and the Atrix are very similar devices. The question will be who will take up the code and try and make it work with the atrix. I would think it would just take a talented moder
There is an ASOP ICS for the Xoom now too...
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/19/ice-cream-sandwich-aosp-build-compiled-for-the-motorola-xoom/
I think that will be soon. So let's hope our developers make a ICS ROM for our device.
I heard turl is workin on cm9, but hes having problems with the EGL binaries, unless motorola or nvidia release it, will be very hard to him work on it...
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I heard turl is workin on cm9, but hes having problems with the EGL binaries, unless motorola or nvidia release it, will be very hard to him work on it...
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Oh! How desperate when I herad u said that...
That means we'll never have ICS if the manufacturers does't release the code or driver?
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I heard turl is workin on cm9, but hes having problems with the EGL binaries, unless motorola or nvidia release it, will be very hard to him work on it...
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I just wondering is other tegra2 based ICS having same problem? (Whatever it is.. i dun hav any technical Knowledge abt it..) They released even having problem with EGL binaries? I mean bionic has almost same featured with atrix is. Except screen..
Just wanna see and experience ICS on ma atrix even if it is experimental and veeeeerrrryyy earlyyyyy alpha version.
I know i know many atrix devs workin harder to release it..
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I wanna know where I can see the progress of developing ICS ROM of our atrix-dev-team
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It would be a great starting point as the Bionic and the Atrix are very similar devices. The question will be who will take up the code and try and make it work with the atrix. I would think it would just take a talented moder
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The Bionic, at the last minute, was switched out to an OMAP4 processor, I believe. Probably for the LTE functionality. So they're aren't as similar as we would have liked them to be..
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The Bionic, at the last minute, was switched out to an OMAP4 processor, I believe. Probably for the LTE functionality. So they're aren't as similar as we would have liked them to be..
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Oops... I've made a mistake. So, the only method of getting ICS is wait for Nvidia or Moto to release the code. If they doesn't, we'll never taste the ICS
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I heard turl is workin on cm9, but hes having problems with the EGL binaries, unless motorola or nvidia release it, will be very hard to him work on it...
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Pretty sure by now turl has egl binaries. They are out there for tegra2 so he should be able to work with whats been released...
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Pretty sure by now turl has egl binaries. They are out there for tegra2 so he should be able to work with whats been released...
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WOW! How did you know that?
As I saw most of the devices had the ICS port, I worry about ICS not to come to our device.
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed that it seems progress has been made on most other Teg2 devices, but not the Atrix. I thought we'd hit a brick wall at EGL, but it seems those issues have been overcome on other ports...
Still, I suppose if I'm going to complain about the lack of progress, I should get my ass in gear and learn a few things about the inner duct-tape of Android and do it myself.
I've posted this a long time ago but people were too busy crying for MIUI. Nvidia have said they're releasing all ICS binaries for all their Tegra 2 and Tegra 3 devices next year. Tegra 2 binaries should be with us early next year with Tegra 3 ones following. They're also making available code related to Tegra 2 on ICS.
For all Vision/G2 users that are unsure or doubting that we'll get ICS on our devices this should EASE YOUR MIND!
source for those wondering: https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/XzbMYgotkmy
also, xda is a pretty demanding crowd; i don't know if 50% certainty will ease their minds
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/progress-on-cm9
According to that post, the MSM7x30 chip is in their scope of support, so it's more likely than just 50%.
It's 75% according to comments. Even if there is no official support, there are always resourceful developers. I've been using CM7 on my Defy for a long time before official support came.
By the way, that flowchart was a semi-joke. It's not meant to be totally definitive, but it does give an idea as to CM9 main requirements - i.e. 512MB RAM and an ICS official release on a device with the same chipset.
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It probably helps that we already have some fairly successful ICS builds on our devices. I've been running Andromadus v13 for a little while and it works really well. There are just a few things that need to be worked on (like the camera and gps lock). But for normal tasks, it runs really smoothly.
Yep, if no official CM9 ever comes Andromadus should be able to last me until my next phone.
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Yep, if no official CM9 ever comes Andromadus should be able to last me until my next phone.
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Agree, I never used the official CM (because of some personal opinions about them) and Icecream JIBwich based on Andromadus has been a fantastic G2 ICS ROM for me
I would personally break some **** if I couldn't get a official cm build. Just my reaction....
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i hope the qualcomm binary release helps fill the gap to get this device into the get.cm party.
if not... that sucks because andromedus roms are not sufficient for me unless i quit my job and no longer need to rely on dependable sync. otherwise its constant babysitting too many things.
Just wish i could know the answer now because im ready to ditch this device and move on to the next (but dont want to.. its a great gingerbread phone)
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i hope the qualcomm binary release helps fill the gap to get this device into the get.cm party.
if not... that sucks because andromedus roms are not sufficient for me unless i quit my job and no longer need to rely on dependable sync. otherwise its constant babysitting too many things.
Just wish i could know the answer now because im ready to ditch this device and move on to the next (but dont want to.. its a great gingerbread phone)
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may I ask which binary release? Did they release anything related to the camera?
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may I ask which binary release? Did they release anything related to the camera?
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No camera stuff, they released Adreno 2xx GPU drivers for ICS.
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For all Vision/G2 users that are unsure or doubting that we'll get ICS on our devices this should EASE YOUR MIND!
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Does this mean the Razr has a 75% chance of getting CM9. Am I understanding this right?
SAN FRANCISCO: SMARTPHONE MAKER HTC said it will release a software update for its HTC One smartphone to enable support for OpenGL ES 3.0.
HTC will release its HTC One smartphone this week in the UK and it will be one of the first handsets to have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 quad-core system on chip (SoC) processor.
Have any of the ROM developers seen this as yet? Any examples?
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2257651/htc-one-will-get-opengl-es-30-support-video
awesome news mate, lets hope it improves the performance as well
ill post the link in the related thread thanks :good:
Interesting I like seeing HTC make commitments to improve the device, it fills me with confidence its not going to be another device forgotten and unsupported as soon as its demoted within the company
Anyone tried that game Qualcomm released to show off the power Snapdragon 600 http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...w-off-the-power-of-snapdragon-600-processors/
I look forward to seeing if there are any benchmark improvements. I am not sure if speed is the main benefit or just new effects/technology.
Real racing seems good on my One, what would the benefit of OpenGL ES 3.0 on that?
I strongly suspect existing benchmarks will be unaffected, let's hope I'm wrong. I guess we can expect better effects "for free".
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I strongly suspect existing benchmarks will be unaffected, let's hope I'm wrong. I guess we can expect better effects "for free".
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we have already discussed this in the related thread
and most conclusions came to be that upcoming drivers should improve GL results
in fact someone asked HTCdev over twitter and they responded they are working with qualcomm regarding GL performance
i see a very big chance you are wrong
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i see a very big chance you are wrong
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That's good news. Hopefully the current drivers are just crappy. I figured they would have been around a while though, long enough to have been reasonably well optimised. Always happy to be wrong.
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That's good news. Hopefully the current drivers are just crappy. I figured they would have been around a while though, long enough to have been reasonably well optimised. Always happy to be wrong.
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yes but HTC is still at 4.1.2
and the SGS4 with 4.2 is scoring a lot better on the same s600
so there a high chance they dont have the latest drivers
/var @jomaKern 19 Mar
@htcdev Are you expected OpenGL performance to increase, with the latest Qualcomm drivers for Jelly Bean 4.2?
HTCdev @htcdev 21 Mar
@jomaKern we are working with Qualcomm regarding OpenGL
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https://twitter.com/htcdev/status/314815543754510336
Oh of course, I forgot about that. Well, you know what? I can't wait to get my grubby mits on this phone!