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Sprint charge for 4G when there is no 4G,is this legal?

When I bought my Epic few Sprint sales rep told me that we will be getting 4G in Buffalo NY in october,here comes january still no 4G.
Well I went to sprint store and asked why they chargin me for 4G when we dont have it yet(and most times im getting 2g speed on 3g,lol).This is what they said "We are charging you for the fastest cpu,even though we dont have 4g speed the cpu pulls information so fast that its considered 4g"lmfao!So I told the dude "listen you can tell that to a child that was born yesterday" but he insisted that he knew what he was talking about,lol,in other words I dint get anywhere.Speaking to a different rep she told me something like that also,lol.And a third rep said some differet but equally outrageous sht.
So my question is:Is this legal for them to be bullshitng us like that?Because im thinking about going back to sprint store and recording that conversation,but what can I do with it?Sprint promised me 4G and on that bassis I droped Tmobile which was way faster than Sprint(5-7mbps vs sprint's 1-2mbps) and now Tmobile is even faster.So I droped my beloved tmobile and got Epic instead of Vibrant on a 4G promise and now im being charged for 4G that I dont have,lol.
Anyone have any advice?Can I return my Epic and can i be tooken off the contract and get my money back?

lots of threads online for it..basicly your SOL. its a "premium data" charge cuz your phone can do more is their recent quote. The sad thing is they are going after clearwire (which they own a major share of) because only like 10% of epic and evo owners live in 4g areas and they dont want to pay clear wire for every evo/epic. but they have no plans on removing the charge from us. So either ***** enough to get out of your contract and move to another carrier or deal with it. Also you could set you phone into roam only mode and talk non stop and DL on verizon and sprint will break the contract for you =)

Yes its legal, you signed the contract. They are being sued, so while its obvious they are charging you for 4g, they now describe the fee as paying for the advanced hardware and not actually the 4g.

muyoso said:
Yes its legal, you signed the contract. They are being sued, so while its obvious they are charging you for 4g, they now describe the fee as paying for the advanced hardware and not actually the 4g.
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For "advance hardware"lol,it says charges are for 4G.And how can they charge me for any hardware?I bought my Epic and its mine so how can they charge me for it?This is like telling a grown man about santa claus being real,lol.So they have a lawsuit already?If so how can I help.
Another question is it possible to flash my Epic to Verizon and use their LTE 4G or is it different frequency from WiMax?

lviv73 said:
For "advance hardware"lol,it says charges are for 4G.And how can they charge me for any hardware?I bought my Epic and its mine so how can they charge me for it?This is like telling a grown man about santa claus being real,lol.So they have a lawsuit already?If so how can I help.
Another question is it possible to flash my Epic to Verizon and use their LTE 4G or is it different frequency from WiMax?
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Lte and wimax are completely and utterly incompatible.
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lviv73 said:
For "advance hardware"lol,it says charges are for 4G.And how can they charge me for any hardware?I bought my Epic and its mine so how can they charge me for it?This is like telling a grown man about santa claus being real,lol.So they have a lawsuit already?If so how can I help.
Another question is it possible to flash my Epic to Verizon and use their LTE 4G or is it different frequency from WiMax?
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How can you help? Call up sprint and cancel your contract. Make it clear to them that you will not pay for a service you cannot use.
Otherwise, just pay the fee and realize that even without 4g you are getting a better deal than you would on any other wireless provider.

Darkstriker said:
Lte and wimax are completely and utterly incompatible.
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I know that I can flash Epic to Verizon,so I assume that only Verizon's 3g will function and no 4g?

lviv73 said:
I know that I can flash Epic to Verizon,so I assume that only Verizon's 3g will function and no 4g?
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The only way to do that is illegal. There is no "flashing" to verizon, as verizon does not offer the Epic. The only way to do it is by fuddling with ESN's and that is not legal.
Also, wait until you see the prices Verizon will put on its 4g service. Think they are gonna offer it for free? LOL.

lviv73 said:
For "advance hardware"lol,it says charges are for 4G.And how can they charge me for any hardware?I bought my Epic and its mine so how can they charge me for it?This is like telling a grown man about santa claus being real,lol.So they have a lawsuit already?If so how can I help.
Another question is it possible to flash my Epic to Verizon and use their LTE 4G or is it different frequency from WiMax?
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Yes they are charging you for the Premium Data Addon which all of their top end phones require...the Addon includes 4g, unlimited data, telnav gps, "honor of using a better phone on their network", "cool tax" and a few other things...its like when hotels have "Resort Fees" and include some things only 1% of the people use anyways...
Either way I personally don't mind the fee anymore..don't get me wrong I'm not exactly thrilled about it and find it dumb too..but I would rather have a $10 fee then tiered data like the other guys >.>
And yes FDD-LTE used on verizon and AT&T will be 700mhz, Wimax is 2.5ghz...

muyoso said:
How can you help? Call up sprint and cancel your contract. Make it clear to them that you will not pay for a service you cannot use.
Otherwise, just pay the fee and realize that even without 4g you are getting a better deal than you would on any other wireless provider.
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Yeah we do get best deal but not on internet speed,sometimes my 3g speed is only 70kbs and my 2g speed on ATT iphone 3g(2 years ago) was 80kbs,lol.
So yeah its the best deal unless your girfriend spends hours downloading movies feom megaupload.
Yeah I might go back to tmobile and get Vibrant,damn I realy did have high hopes for WiMax 4g but the way its lookin it might be another year or two before upstate NY gets it.

muyoso said:
The only way to do that is illegal. There is no "flashing" to verizon, as verizon does not offer the Epic. The only way to do it is by fuddling with ESN's and that is not legal.
Also, wait until you see the prices Verizon will put on its 4g service. Think they are gonna offer it for free? LOL.
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People that have sprint 4g dont pay extra for it.

OMG NOT AGAINNNNNNNNNNNN

gTen said:
Yes they are charging you for the Premium Data Addon which all of their top end phones require...the Addon includes 4g, unlimited data, telnav gps, "honor of using a better phone on their network", "cool tax" and a few other things...its like when hotels have "Resort Fees" and include some things only 1% of the people use anyways...
Either way I personally don't mind the fee anymore..don't get me wrong I'm not exactly thrilled about it and find it dumb too..but I would rather have a $10 fee then tiered data like the other guys >.>
And yes FDD-LTE used on verizon and AT&T will be 700mhz, Wimax is 2.5ghz...
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Tmobile dint have a data cap,i downloaded over 50gb one month,its unlimited.Sprint have 3 or 5gb data cap on their 3g but no data cap on 4g(convinient for them since almost nobody have 4g).

lviv73 said:
Tmobile dint have a data cap,i downloaded over 50gb one month,its unlimited.Sprint have 3 or 5gb data cap on their 3g but no data cap on 4g(convinient for them since almost nobody have 4g).
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T-mobile had a data cap of 5gb..but they dropped it in favor of throttling...aka if they see you having too much data multiple months they will throttle you...
As for sprint..they have unlimited 3g and 4g data..the data cap limits are on wireless cards..not cellphones....

They do now have a cap. All carriers have a "soft" cap, but Sprint if you have 4G doesn't have a cap. 3G has a soft cap.
bleh...

I sell phones for an indirect agent and we get grilled about that all the time. The fact of the matter is, you're usually going to pay less with Sprint, even with the Premium Data Add-on. It's for the 'big screen, fast processor, and access to the 4G network' is what I tell customers. You can look at it one of two ways- 1) They're charging you a mandatory fee for a hardware feature- not a network feature- so it's bogus. Without 4G you have no 'Premium Data' experience. 2) These two phones are far superior to any other offerings on Sprint- even the Optimus S doesn't really even come close. You're going to have a lot better internet experience than someone with one of the other phones- it will be measurably faster even on 3G.
What you have to ask yourself is- would you have a problem with them charging a lower rate for someone with a flip-phone to have unlimited internet than someone with an Android phone? If that doesn't seem to unreasonable, then realize that this isn't too much different.
In regards to the legality of it- you signed a contract, and that contract did not guarantee you would ever have WiMax in your area. The sales rep might have told you that, but it wasn't part of your contract. You can try really hard to be let out of your contract, and they might let you, but their position is (legally) sound.

Sprint doesn't have a cap for 4g because they don't know how much you use. This may have changed (doubt it), but they can't even look it up. I worked at sprint tech support for a year back when wimax was introduced to the networkm

Sprint doesn't have a cap for 3G or 4g.

blakerboy777 said:
I sell phones for an indirect agent and we get grilled about that all the time. The fact of the matter is, you're usually going to pay less with Sprint, even with the Premium Data Add-on. It's for the 'big screen, fast processor, and access to the 4G network' is what I tell customers. You can look at it one of two ways- 1) They're charging you a mandatory fee for a hardware feature- not a network feature- so it's bogus. Without 4G you have no 'Premium Data' experience. 2) These two phones are far superior to any other offerings on Sprint- even the Optimus S doesn't really even come close. You're going to have a lot better internet experience than someone with one of the other phones- it will be measurably faster even on 3G.
What you have to ask yourself is- would you have a problem with them charging a lower rate for someone with a flip-phone to have unlimited internet than someone with an Android phone? If that doesn't seem to unreasonable, then realize that this isn't too much different.
In regards to the legality of it- you signed a contract, and that contract did not guarantee you would ever have WiMax in your area. The sales rep might have told you that, but it wasn't part of your contract. You can try really hard to be let out of your contract, and they might let you, but their position is (legally) sound.
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And you have a tech job,lol.Cpu speed or ram amount dont have nothing to do with internet speed.No disrespect to you becuse youre probably reading this of sprint's manuscript.But anyone that has knowledge of electronics knows that this is bs that dont even makes sense to human brain.
I owned Behold 2 and MTS3gs with 600mhz cpu(phones half as powerful as Epic) and they both were almost as fast as sprint's 4g on tmobile's hsdpa network.You mean to tell me that sprint is charging me for 4G addon hardware inside Galaxy S Pro(Epic) that I bought and own?At least they can come up with a better sounding scam,and if sales rep promised a 4g that never came that should give a consumer a right to get out of contract.

Processor speed does affect Internet speed. You can load pages cached faster with a faster processor.

Should I stick with Sprint

I am going to be starting a new job soon that gives me a $50 a month credit towards my cell phone bill. I will also have to get off my dad's family plan. So If you were in my shoes would you:
A. Stick with Sprint, and wait for the next badass phone they release, like the Evo 2 or something similar.
B. Find new service provider. I heard Verizon has a very data speeds. I've also heard very good things about T-Mobile.
C. Hang tight with Sprint and jump ship at a later date when service provider releases something badass.
D. Get a iPhone.
I believe I might have to either pay the early termination fee or have to do the Verizon prl hack to get out of the contract with Sprint. I do not believe the area I live in will get 4G anytime soon, so I've given up on it and will be happy with good 3G speeds. Which is why I'm leaning towards Verizon. What do you guys think?
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frontay said:
I am going to be starting a new job soon that gives me a $50 a month credit towards my cell phone bill. I will also have to get off my dad's family plan. So If you were in my shoes would you:
A. Stick with Sprint, and wait for the next badass phone they release, like the Evo 2 or something similar.
B. Find new service provider. I heard Verizon has a very data speeds. I've also heard very good things about T-Mobile.
C. Hang tight with Sprint and jump ship at a later date when service provider releases something badass.
D. Get a iPhone.
I believe I might have to either pay the early termination fee or have to do the Verizon prl hack to get out of the contract with Sprint. I do not believe the area I live in will get 4G anytime soon, so I've given up on it and will be happy with good 3G speeds. Which is why I'm leaning towards Verizon. What do you guys think?
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D. Now GTFO!
Pick the phone you like best as long as all the carriers have good coverage where you will be using your phone.
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I think Verizon is getting rid of unlimited data. Something to think about

Wait until March 22nd, that's when the next big announcement is. $50 off the cheapest company with unlimited data is not bad (assuming you have good coverage in your area)

Sprint used to be my favorite carrier (fastest data speeds + OG SERO) but I will never recommend Sprint ever again UNTIL they fix their data issues. I'd wait a month or two to see if Sprint is just upgrading or modifying their towers but after that LEAVE.
T-Mo is pretty cheap, has HSPA+, and always gets a ton of great Android phones. HSPA+ coverage while pretty broad is still spotty, but if you can verify that you're area is good to go, I'd suggest that. The LG dual core phone is set to launch and more the next big 4.3" HTC is rumored to be released on T-Mo as well.
Verizon's coverage is king, their 3G data speeds are now much better than Sprints and they are launching LTE 4G. Phone-wise you can't go wrong with them. They have everything. Of course you pay more but it's worth it if you're willing to drop the cash.
AT&T is on the up. Their entire 3G network is now HSPA+ so you're almost guaranteed to get better 3G speeds than Verizon or Sprint (I get 3-5 Mbps). Plus they are launching LTE 4G in the summer. Like Verizon they got a ton phones, they used to suck Android wise but now that their iPhone exclusivity is over they have embraced the platform as seen by the HTC Inspire, and probably the best Android phone on the market, the Atrix. Price wise it's not bad, you can get a Atrix ($200) with 450 minutes and 2GB of data plus use GV for texting and you'll pay only $65/month (or $85 with unlimited texting and mobile to mobile). The 2GB cap sucks but if you don't view a lot of video on the go and got WiFi at home you'll probably never go over.
Personally I'd go with T-Mo with a Nexus S (or wait for something better spec'd) if I was in a good HSPA+ area.

OK so if i was you and you could afford the etf and can afford tmobile or verizon. Go for it. But for now im sticking with spritn

If you are going to leave sprint then your best choice is Verizon. Tmobile and ATT are despicable when it comes to coverage and call quality. I had tmobile for 7 years and had sooo many issues. I highly recommend you stay away from tmobile. I never had att but have heard numerous horror stories about drop calls.
I suggest you wait it out till the end of this month, if sprint doesn't announce anything worthy then just boat to verizon.

if you are gonna go with att or verizon, you might as well bend over and spread your butt cheeks cause thats what att and verizon do to their customer.

I Wonder What Sprint Will Announce

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388741,00.asp

Probably the LTE switch.
via EVO.

Likely that they will be running both technologies.

Sprint can't afford for clearwire to faulter yet. Sprint will slowly move out of it meaning no more expansion of wimax, If they want the Iphone with 4g they will need to go lte anyways. They will limp clearwire along until they can afford to let it go belly up.

detcup4evr said:
Sprint can't afford for clearwire to faulter yet. Sprint will slowly move out of it meaning no more expansion of wimax, If they want the Iphone with 4g they will need to go lte anyways. They will limp clearwire along until they can afford to let it go belly up.
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They own the company via majority ownership soo Clearwire is theirs to do as they see fit... It would be pointless for them to keep pouring money into it. But Supposdly the plan to run many technologies using the same panels is supposed to help along with expansions...

I could see them announcing phones with either both technologies, or just one of the technologies (though I highly doubt the latter of the two).
Sprint has too much to lose if they decide to drop wimax. That completely defeats the purpose of launching new phones with 4G. Not only that, but a lot of people that have switched to Sprint for there smartphones most likely have a 4G capable device. To top that all off, Sprint has spent a lot of money on Clearwire, so it would be extremely stupid to just throw all of their progress away.
Now I haven't heard of a dual mode lte/wimax chip yet (I remember something but I don't think it was wimax), but if Sprint did use that in future phones, that would be completely awesome. It would allow them to keep their current investments while also introducing new products.
On the phone side, I could see them announcing an Iphone, the Kingdom, the Galaxy Within (although that may come sooner), another Samsung Phone, and maybe a few mid class smartphones. Most of these are just guesses, but I would be happy if I was right
My .02

It would be nice if Sprint would expand both their existing 4g as well as the possible new 4g, as they have many existing customers who pay the extra 4g fee as they've been told by sprint stores that "it's coming" to their area.
It would be another disappointment if this turned out to be a dangling carrot to increase sales.

There is no "4g" fee. It's a fee for ALL smart phones. 3g and 4g.
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This announcement is likely about their partnership with LightSquared, the wholesale LTE provider that was causing grief with GPS systems. It provides land-and-satellite based LTE that could potentially provide coverage across the entire United States.
I highly doubt that Sprint is going to keep investing in WiMax phones once their LTE network goes full-throttle. Clear is already having problems, and adoption of their services hasn't been as great as they hoped it would be. They'll be around as an ISP for a while, but Sprint isn't going to go out its way to develop hybrid LTE/WiMax chips when LTE is clearly the technology of the future. Honestly, why would anyone use WiMax when LTE is available in all the same (and more, thanks to LightSquared's satellite coverage) locations?
WiMax got Sprint out the door with 4G first, but that also means that it's old technology and everyone else has moved on to the latest and greatest. Sprint needs to catch up, and I have high hopes about this LightSquared service, both as a Sprint customer and a rural internet user.

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There is no "4g" fee. It's a fee for ALL smart phones. 3g and 4g.
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^This. It's still a load of BS, but he/she is right. This isn't a "4G" fee, just a "you bought a smartphone, so you use more of our data" fee.

my .02 is that the only reason sprint wants the lte is to later on strike a roaming deal with verizon so we could use their lte which will be more available and nearly everywhere

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my .02 is that the only reason sprint wants the lte is to later on strike a roaming deal with verizon so we could use their lte which will be more available and nearly everywhere
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This 100%. It would be nice to see 4G, in any form on Sprint, in my area soon. VZW and the GSM provider(s) already have it here, why not Sprint.

i think... guessing...
that they are about to turn on the Vision plan they been upgrading towers too....
using all the spectrum they own better....
and powering on the small repeaters ... to enhance their 4G service....

Waffles And Syrup said:
^This. It's still a load of BS, but he/she is right. This isn't a "4G" fee, just a "you bought a smartphone, so you use more of our data" fee.
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Really? When I signed up for my plan I could have sworn I had to pay for premium data only because of 4G. Must have been mistaken...

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Really? When I signed up for my plan I could have sworn I had to pay for premium data only because of 4G. Must have been mistaken...
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Yes, you are mistaken.

I'm more than a little bit concerned about LightSquared's potential interference with GPS. I hope that they can resolve that properly, especially if Sprint were to partner with them.

mattykinsx said:
Yes, you are mistaken.
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Oh well

Waffles And Syrup said:
^This. It's still a load of BS, but he/she is right. This isn't a "4G" fee, just a "you bought a smartphone, so you use more of our data" fee.
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To be fair though a little bit, the fee at first was only on the Evo, and even the Epic when it was released. Now it's just on every smartphone, but $10 isn't gonna break the bank for me personally.

Guys you do know that a LTE roaming deal could bankrupt Sprint right?

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Guys you do know that a LTE roaming deal could bankrupt Sprint right?
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Sprints new network questions.....

After reading the announcement from this mornings strategy meeting I have a few questions bouncing around in my head. Was wondering if anyone here might know the answers. First, and most important, what happens to all the phones that are currently set for their 4g? Will they still work on the new network or is the change in band only for the 4g? I.e. if I were to buy a epic touch 4g would I still have 3g and the end of 2012 or would I have to buy another handset?
Secondly, wtf? Where did all the money go that I/we have been pouring into sprint for the 4g that most, myself included haven't been receiving? Is that the money that sprint just announced it would be spending to buy into apple? That's not what I signed up for.
Rant over.
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downyours said:
After reading the announcement from this mornings strategy meeting I have a few questions bouncing around in my head. Was wondering if anyone here might know the answers. First, and most important, what happens to all the phones that are currently set for their 4g? Will they still work on the new network or is the change in band only for the 4g? I.e. if I were to buy a epic touch 4g would I still have 3g and the end of 2012 or would I have to buy another handset?
Secondly, wtf? Where did all the money go that I/we have been pouring into sprint for the 4g that most, myself included haven't been receiving? Is that the money that sprint just announced it would be spending to buy into apple? That's not what I signed up for.
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They are committing to selling WiMax devices all though next year which implies support for much longer although they currently only have in place agreements with clearwire through the end of next year.
A crazed lady at the end of the call pissed the hesse and others off by questioning that they knew nothing about clearwire potential bankruptcy since they are 54% stake holders in the company. My take away is that sprint plans for Clearwire to fail and take the spectrum for themselves in bankruptcy court.
Oh but the epic 4g touch would take advantage of the 1x advanced 3g technology, but for 4G you are stuck with WiMax.

They said they'd continue to support WiMax. I would think eventually it would get phased out many years down the road, but if you don't have WiMax right now, I wouldn't expect it in the future (which sucks for me). At least LTE is supposed to be done by the end of 2013 and they start selling LTE capable handsets about the same time my contract is up. Any desire I had to upgrade early to the Nexus Prime (if it even lands on Sprint) or the Epic Touch just went out the window. I'll wait until I can get an LTE handset as my Epic is more than fine in the meantime.

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They said they'd continue to support WiMax. I would think eventually it would get phased out many years down the road, but if you don't have WiMax right now, I wouldn't expect it in the future (which sucks for me). At least LTE is supposed to be done by the end of 2013 and they start selling LTE capable handsets about the same time my contract is up. Any desire I had to upgrade early to the Nexus Prime (if it even lands on Sprint) or the Epic Touch just went out the window. I'll wait until I can get an LTE handset as my Epic is more than fine in the meantime.
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Exactly the argument that I was making. It would be pointless for anyone to buy new phones at this point. Which sucks because I really wanted to buy the epic touch or the nexus.
Basically they are writing checks that they can't cash. And they are going get it because they are practically forcing people to get new phones. They have announced 20 billion to be spent on apple over 4 years and now the new network which will cost who knows how much.
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CapsLockKey said:
They said they'd continue to support WiMax. I would think eventually it would get phased out many years down the road, but if you don't have WiMax right now, I wouldn't expect it in the future (which sucks for me). At least LTE is supposed to be done by the end of 2013 and they start selling LTE capable handsets about the same time my contract is up. Any desire I had to upgrade early to the Nexus Prime (if it even lands on Sprint) or the Epic Touch just went out the window. I'll wait until I can get an LTE handset as my Epic is more than fine in the meantime.
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Agreed, I've got no desire to upgrade right now. I don't really even understand how an iPhone user could justify coming to sprint. 3G will continue to be slow and if you buy an iPhone now, you are locked into 3G until 2013. It may keep some people with upgrades from leaving sprint though.

It looks like they will be continuing to support WiMAX until at least the end of 2012. They didn't really say what is happening after that, but I'm guessing that they'll still have significant WiMAX coverage through most of 2013.
From engadget:
The company plans for a rapid deployment of this new 4G network, with the first LTE markets and handsets to hit in mid-2012, and the full rollout mostly completed by 2013. Current subscribers signed up for WiMAX plans won't have to worry as their devices will continue to be supported throughout 2012.
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By the end of next year, Sprint aims to have a combined WiMAX/LTE population coverage of 176 million -- with 123 million covered by LTE and 76 million overlapping both. When the network build-out is nearly complete in 2013, the company should have over 250 million blanketed in LTE, far outstripping the stagnant 120 million served by WiMAX.
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stilesja said:
Agreed, I've got no desire to upgrade right now. I don't really even understand how an iPhone user could justify coming to sprint. 3G will continue to be slow and if you buy an iPhone now, you are locked into 3G until 2013. It may keep some people with upgrades from leaving sprint though.
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Are you kidding? None of the iphone variants support 4g? The only difference is the att version supports HSPA+, which is certainly not 4g.
Also, nearly every phone sold will be upgradeable to 1x advanced, which considering this advanced 3g tech can reach speeds as fast or faster than current wimax, i don't think you'll be missing out on alot
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DiGi760 said:
It looks like they will be continuing to support WiMAX until at least the end of 2012. They didn't really say what is happening after that, but I'm guessing that they'll still have significant WiMAX coverage through most of 2013.
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This statement is a little inaccurate, as the statement made was that wimax devices will continue to be SOLD through 2012. As with nearly every cell technology, you can expect to still be able to utilize it for a long time.
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downyours said:
Exactly the argument that I was making. It would be pointless for anyone to buy new phones at this point. Which sucks because I really wanted to buy the epic touch or the nexus.
Basically they are writing checks that they can't cash. And they are going get it because they are practically forcing people to get new phones. They have announced 20 billion to be spent on apple over 4 years and now the new network which will cost who knows how much.
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One thing you need to remember is that this cost is spread out, so about 5bil a year, and sprint is nearing the start of the lightsquared deal, which will PAY sprint money...the figure i can't remember, but I think it was close to that same cost. So effectively, they may only be paying for the network upgrade.
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stilesja said:
They are committing to selling WiMax devices all though next year which implies support for much longer although they currently only have in place agreements with clearwire through the end of next year.
A crazed lady at the end of the call pissed the hesse and others off by questioning that they knew nothing about clearwire potential bankruptcy since they are 54% stake holders in the company. My take away is that sprint plans for Clearwire to fail and take the spectrum for themselves in bankruptcy court.
Oh but the epic 4g touch would take advantage of the 1x advanced 3g technology, but for 4G you are stuck with WiMax.
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That lady was a complete idiot. She argued against sprint spending 6bil on a new LTE network (that's nearly half complete mind you) when it would only take 600mil to upgrade clearwires network to LTE. What she seriously failed to understand is that clearwires total footprint is much less than 1/10th of the projected total footprint that will be covered by sprint's 1900mhz lte, and therefore this is more cost effective. She sounded like a typical misinformed PTA member.
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Just go about your business and buy phones when you need them and stop worrying about this bs and people will come to sprint for the iphone cuz they will want unlimited data. I would not be with another carrier simply because I would go over 2 gb every month and f**k a $200 + every month that's just retarted
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jbadboy2007 said:
Just go about your business and buy phones when you need them and stop worrying about this bs and people will come to sprint for the iphone cuz they will want unlimited data. I would not be with another carrier simply because I would go over 2 gb every month and f**k a $200 + every month that's just retarted
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Sprint just slapped a limit on "wifi tethering" data to 5GB. What makes you think they won't do something similar to "handset" data once iPhone users come crawling around the corner?
I really think that was a step in the wrong direction for Sprint considering what people already pay to get wifi tethering... Now they have to pay the same price and get a big fat limit on their service... Not even grandfathered in to the new policy either

Cuz the unlimited data is the only reason that new iphone users would stay. During the strategy meeting dan hesse said over and over that sprints brand is unlimited data and they are changing the rest of the company to fit that brand. So honestly you have nothing to worry about as far as your phone goes
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stilesja said:
Agreed, I've got no desire to upgrade right now. I don't really even understand how an iPhone user could justify coming to sprint. 3G will continue to be slow and if you buy an iPhone now, you are locked into 3G until 2013. It may keep some people with upgrades from leaving sprint though.
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people will still come to sprint man. no iphone supports 4g capability at all yet in the US. people will come for the unlimited data and cheaper price plan. i know im adding a line to my account to get one. im no apple fanboy but the phone is pretty sweet so ill have my epic and iphone. Im deff waitin on LTE network to deploy before upgrading my epic tho. pic has ben hands down best phone ive ever had and wouldnt settle for anything without a keyboard

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Cuz the unlimited data is the only reason that new iphone users would stay. During the strategy meeting dan hesse said over and over that sprints brand is unlimited data and they are changing the rest of the company to fit that brand. So honestly you have nothing to worry about as far as your phone goes
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That shut me up. Finally, someone in the community who answers questions instead of snyde comments. Thank you <3

Does anyone STILL not have 4g?

Hey all! Long time HTC EVO 4g user! (since day 1.) I was wondering if anyone is still like me and their area STILL has no 4g??? I live in Long Island, New York and STILL to this day only a small part of NYC has 4g. I prob only got the chance to use 4g with my phone about 2 times since iv had it. =/

I think you will find that there are many Evo owners that do not have access to 4G and have never used it. There are a few spots where I can get 4G but not where I live or work so I keep 4G turned off all the time.

I never used my 4G either had it since last Jan. I think Sprint got us with that extra $10 a month.
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I dont have 4g at home but get it at my mom's house its not that great since I have to go outside or close to a window to use it, and the 10$ Isnt for 4g its for the amount of data smartphones eat up as they use data almost constantly while 3g is on by syncing weather mail etc they are also capable of sending large files thru email and mms that a standard phone cannot think of it this way would u rather pay 10$ a month for all the data u can use or not pay 10$ and be capped at 2-5gb of data
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NO 4G in BUFFALO
No 4G in Buffalo. Rochester has it, as does Syracuse...
But the 2 largest cities in NY go without.
Thank you Sprint.
So glad I get to pay them the 4G tax of $10 a month, oh sorry, I meant their "Enhanced data" upcharge.
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I dont have 4g at home but get it at my mom's house its not that great since I have to go outside or close to a window to use it, and the 10$ Isnt for 4g its for the amount of data smartphones eat up as they use data almost constantly while 3g is on by syncing weather mail etc they are also capable of sending large files thru email and mms that a standard phone cannot think of it this way would u rather pay 10$ a month for all the data u can use or not pay 10$ and be capped at 2-5gb of data
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Don't let them kid you, the $10 upcharge was meant to be a 4G fee. But because the roll out took so long, they had to market it as an "enhanced data fee for smartphones".

None in metro Detroit either. There are apparently a few spots where Clearwire has towers in the city proper, but I have never been able to find it. The only benefit is that it doesn't limit which Rom I get to use!

Very little parts of NYC have it.
i live on long island, about a 30 minute train ride into penn station and not one part of long island has it. all they would need to do is just spread the radius about 50 more miles and id have it! lol

jaymaj said:
No 4G in Buffalo. Rochester has it, as does Syracuse...
But the 2 largest cities in NY go without.
Thank you Sprint.
So glad I get to pay them the 4G tax of $10 a month, oh sorry, I meant their "Enhanced data" upcharge.
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Don't let them kid you, the $10 upcharge was meant to be a 4G fee. But because the roll out took so long, they had to market it as an "enhanced data fee for smartphones".
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Its on every 3g and 4g android device its just like the 19.99 - 29.99 a month blackberry charge its for amount of data able to be used if it goes away so will unlimited data personally I think 10$ a month for unlimited data is a steal compared to 50 a month for 5gb at vzw the evo was the first device to have the charge simply cuz they knew a ton of customers were gonna grab it up eating thru an assload of data as android became more popular and more devices started to sell all android phones got the tax just thank sprint they didn't do like every other carrier and kill unlimited to get the iPhone
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The only time I get to use 4g is when I'm on vacation to a larger city. I've had the phone for almost 1.5 years and have probably used 4g for less than 2 hours.

Got the phone the day it was released and have never seen 4g..

Full 4g everywhere I go
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drose1976 said:
None in metro Detroit either. There are apparently a few spots where Clearwire has towers in the city proper, but I have never been able to find it. The only benefit is that it doesn't limit which Rom I get to use!
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I live near you in Toledo, according to sprint there is no 4g here, but clearwire's map shows ONE tower in the downtown area. It actually works very good since nobody really knows about it. But it only works for a few block radius around the tower, so pretty much useless.
I really hope the Detroit metro area gets LTE very soon, or else I will be switching to verizon

I bought my evo knowing I would never see a day of 4g I have only had it once when driving through dc I live in FL and there is absoutly none by me and Its upsetting knowing I pay sprints bs $10 premium data charge...and sprint isnt dealing with wimax anymore...grr

San diego has nothing except the 4 g price
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I live in southeastern Massachusetts and don't have 4G. If I go to Providence I can get 4G but I never do and I can also get 4G in Boston. I have used 4G for maybe 30 minutes in the time that I have had the EVO(over a year).

I have it in San Francisco area, but almost never use it because of battery life issues. I need more than 4 hours battery life.
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Evo owner since day 1, no 4g in Phoenix.
T.T

Sprint promised me in writing twice that they would have 4g in my area by the end of 2010. Still no 4g here. The closest 4g tower is 45 miles away. I don't pay that $10 fee, so Sprint can blow me.

No sprint 4G in New Orleans. We do have excellent vzw 4G LTE however. If verizon would every get over their data limits I would soooooo be gone.

My phone has never seen 4G and never will, but they sure did get my 10 bucks every month.... :/