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android 2.1 second chance

Hi all,
My phone was on kyrillos ROM 5.5 and recently my wife also bought a SG3 i5800.
Her phone had android 2.1 on it by default, so I could compare the phones side by side.
What I found:
-her phone (android 2.1) "fully installed with apps" was smoother than mine, even when my phone was clocked to 800Mhz "fixed" high performance with fugumod 2.4 beta3.
The smoother behaviour of froyo 2.1 best came out in a game "fruit ninja".
On my froyo 2.2 + kyrillos 5.5 i had choppier graphics when the screen was very full of fruit and lots of sounds and you swiped the screen at the same time.
The android 2.1 though had no issues with this at all, the gameplay was smooth with no difference of busy graphics, sounds and screen swiping (slicing the fruit) at the same time.
As a test I put the latest froyo 2.1 release from samfirmware on my phone, and now I'm enjoying smooth phone also, no overclocking necessary and great battery life too.
ofcourse linpack now shows 3000 again, while it was 9000 before, but in practice the phone is faster....can somebody explain that?
So I will stay on froyo 2.1 for now, how it lasts in time, and maybe later I try a custom ROM again on froyo ...when I am in an experimental mood again.
I didn't use ext4 partitions before the downgrade, so no issues for me regarding filesystems
As a free gift now I can kill some tasks that don't restart themselves automatically.
BTW the camera works great, no crashes in froyo 2.1
When do we see the NEW custom 2.1 ROMS appear ??? )
Br.
Michel

clarkkov said:
This is not the 2.1 vs 2.2 issue. This is STOCK vs CUSTOM issue. This is what I'm trying to say all the time, but I get misunderstood.
Try the stock 2.2 vs stock 2.1 an you'll see that 2.2 is indeed better and faster than 2.1. As offensive might this sound, no offense is intended, but custom ROMs slow your phone down, they are broken and poorly done. You may have installed your custom ROM the wrong way or did something wrong while installing, but still, the FACT remains, custom ROMs for SG3 are broken and some tweaks and hacks don't work as intended.
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Hahaha your words scream FLAME ME but the fact is that I have to agree. Even the custom themes are buggy (not all but most of them). They seem to be incomplete, the text is somehow misplaced, especially in dialog boxes and the download percentage in notification area is unreadable... I have a theory as to the cause of that... All we see are CUSTOMISED roms and themes. If someone makes something original most of these issues will be resolved I believe. I am no developer nor trying to be smart. I respect the developers and I understand how hard is to make a fully working rom. I thank all of them especially Lestat who imo has the best rom. But the only one TRUE developer has to be marcellusbe. Only he is trying something original. Let's hope he pulls it off.
Peace...
Sent from my lestatious 2.0 nokia 3210

Panos_dm said:
But the only one TRUE developer has to be marcellusbe. Only he is trying something original. Let's hope he pulls it off.
Peace...
Sent from my lestatious 2.0 nokia 3210
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what about our dev-team? we are doing the exact same as marcellusbe, porting whole ROM (MIUI) and almost nobody cares... and to be a exact porting a ROM is not original and if it would be original still our team was porting MIUI wayyyy before marcellusbes CM7. now sorry if i sound like a 90 year old grandma but even tough we were porting before CM7 everybody thinks that nobody hasnt done anything like this before CM7 OMG AMAAAAZINGG!!!
@MARCELLUSBE if you read this dont be offended and if you are offended PM me
thats all

jazux said:
what about our dev-team? we are doing the exact same as marcellusbe, porting whole ROM (MIUI) and almost nobody cares... and to be a exact porting a ROM is not original and if it would be original still our team was porting MIUI wayyyy before marcellusbes CM7. now sorry if i sound like a 90 year old grandma but even tough we were porting before CM7 everybody thinks that nobody hasnt done anything like this before CM7 OMG AMAAAAZINGG!!!
@MARCELLUSBE if you read this dont be offended and if you are offended PM me
thats all
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Ok jazux. Your team too. Listen I don't want anyone to be offended but he (and his team) are the only ones who compile aosp. Something not easy as well as ORIGINAL. If I'm not mistaken all your team does is to port apps and the whole MIUI feeling to Froyo. Correct? Of course you have your share of hard work and fame but in the end we'll have a great, provably, 2.2 rom with MIUI skin...
P.S. Again NO OFFENSE MEANT. All of you keep up the good work.
Peace...
Sent from my lestatious 2.0 nokia 3210

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Ok jazux. Your team too. Listen I don't want anyone to be offended but he (and his team) are the only ones who compile aosp. Something not easy as well as ORIGINAL. If I'm not mistaken all your team does is to port apps and the whole MIUI feeling to Froyo. Correct? Of course you have your share of hard wok and fame but in the end we'll have a great, provably, 2.2 rom with MIUI skin...
P.S. Again NO OFFENSE MEANT. All of you keep up the good work.
Peace...
Sent from my lestatious 2.0 nokia 3210
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no offense taken
but just to let you and everybody else know: the problem is that everyone thinks this is easy and CM7 is hard as,hard but really this is not something that can be done like that MIUI is super hard to port because its designed to run on high-end devices and thus we have to sacrifise some things to get it working on loooooow-end phone. and MIUI is based on android 2.3 wich means our MIUI willl also be based on 2.3

I understand Clarkkov and respect his opinion as user but I don't like to think that way.
You can't ask ROM cookers here to deliver professional ROM like Samfirmware.
EDIT: In fact, when you got your SG3, it has a stock ROM. If you went here to try custom ROM, that would say the original was not good enought for you.
Some month ago, when I bought my SG3, I knew nothing about ROMs and Android. Thanks to ROM Cookers and some advanced users, I learnt a lot while flashing (again and again) ROMs they made.
OK, theses ROMs could be buggy, could made your phone slower ... but they also brings to you some stuffs that are not in the stock ROMs. If it's buggy or badly done, users should give feedbacks to the developpers to help them and solve theses issues.
Android is complex and usefull infos are hard to find sometimes .... I say bravo to ROM cooker to achieve a working ROM, even if it has some issues, because it's not an easy task espcially if you are not a programmer and know nothing about linux/android.

marcellusbe said:
I understand Clarkkov and respect his opinion as user but I don't like to think that way.
You can't ask ROM cookers here to deliver professional ROM like Samfirmware.
EDIT: In fact, when you got your SG3, it has a stock ROM. If you went here to try custom ROM, that would say the original was not good enought for you.
Some month ago, when I bought my SG3, I knew nothing about ROMs and Android. Thanks to ROM Cookers and some advanced users, I learnt a lot while flashing (again and again) ROMs they made.
OK, theses ROMs could be buggy, could made your phone slower ... but they also brings to you some stuffs that are not in the stock ROMs. If it's buggy or badly done, users should give feedbacks to the developpers to help them and solve theses issues.
Android is complex and usefull infos are hard to find sometimes .... I say bravo to ROM cooker to achieve a working ROM, even if it has some issues, because it's not an easy task espcially if you are not a programmer and know nothing about linux/android.
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Now i m not a developer but as a Custom ROM (Indroid 4.3) user I keep chasing clarkkov. Marcei is right, we all came to XDA as we were not satisfied with our stock ROM.
I think clarkkov has a problem or two with some of the developers. How wud u feel if i say the stock theme was much better than the theme u ported? That is what happens when u try to criticise the custom rom developers. they are much better than u, atleast they are trying to get something better for the users.

@jajux: can u give me the link of ur MIUI rom ported and where can i see the screenshot of SG3 running MIUI ROM.
And i tell u one thing: if u r doing good, u will be appreciated, sooner or later.

brjshshrma said:
@jajux: can u give me the link of ur MIUI rom ported and where can i see the screenshot of SG3 running MIUI ROM.
And i tell u one thing: if u r doing good, u will be appreciated, sooner or later.
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you mean download link for the ROM? sorry cant give you that and screenshots will arrive when we get launcher working properly on our screen (no overshooting)

marcellusbe said:
I understand Clarkkov and respect his opinion as user but I don't like to think that way.
You can't ask ROM cookers here to deliver professional ROM like Samfirmware.
EDIT: In fact, when you got your SG3, it has a stock ROM. If you went here to try custom ROM, that would say the original was not good enought for you.
Some month ago, when I bought my SG3, I knew nothing about ROMs and Android. Thanks to ROM Cookers and some advanced users, I learnt a lot while flashing (again and again) ROMs they made.
OK, theses ROMs could be buggy, could made your phone slower ... but they also brings to you some stuffs that are not in the stock ROMs. If it's buggy or badly done, users should give feedbacks to the developpers to help them and solve theses issues.
Android is complex and usefull infos are hard to find sometimes .... I say bravo to ROM cooker to achieve a working ROM, even if it has some issues, because it's not an easy task espcially if you are not a programmer and know nothing about linux/android.
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So you learnd android in a couple of months? Did you had any knowledge of coding before?

RafayelG said:
So you learnd android in a couple of months? Did you had any knowledge of coding before?
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Ah yes ... I have an experience of ASM MC680x0 on Amiga and Atari ST

marcellusbe said:
Ah yes ... I have an experience of ASM MC680x0 on Amiga and Atari ST
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Can you plz teach me some android developement when you have time. (I know you are quite busy but I would really appriciate it, I also speak Flemish btw.)

clarkkov said:
ROTFL!!!
You should get a life
Sent from cramped soft keyboard!
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what is happening here ?
Hi guys,
My intention was to inform you with my experiences on android 2.1 and certainly not starting a heavy discussion about custom ROMs and criticism about ROM cookers/designers.
I think the guys who make custom ROMS are great, enabling features that normally are not available in stock ROMS.
Only thing is that my end-user experience with android 2.1 is very good, smooth gaming and no camera issues anymore.
So.... as i wrote earlier.... would there be a "challenge" to make custom roms based on froyo 2.1 ?? Maybe a poll is an option to find out
Br.
Michel

Im also on Kyrillios 5.7 and my phone is a lot faster than with 2.1 .... try to flash some different versions of 2.2 or flash one version twice to see if it becoms better. stock or modded

Just to make some things clear to you:
You say froyo 2.1, but it is android 2.1 eclair OR android 2.2 froyo. Froyo 2.1 is wrong

@remygo
Hi,
I would maybe switch to froyo 2.2 when the game called "fruit ninja" runs smooth even with busy graphics and sound and slicing. Can you confirm it is smooth also on kyrillos 5.7?
Br. Michel

after reading the first post i seriously wanted to give eclair another chance.. which i already did once but the devil didn't let me be in peace as i had downgraded. but i was wanting to give it another go.., but i tried I5800XWJPI from samfirmware which is a may release for Europe comes up with a different language.
i was very impressed with the speed improvement as well the the new market and new maps were built into it which is the first two apps i checked for version coz i loved the new market app.
gps locks in seconds so i took some tips mentioned by clarkkov to optimize the sg3.
i will see how the battery life goes with this one. phone is still not rooted nor OC'd no custom kernels yet..

great
Well i found fruit ninja 1.3.3 on 4shared, incl. Zen mode!
This version looks much better on my apollo sg3.
The stuttering i saw before on froyo was already solved by loading eclair 2.1 but now it also looks much sharper.
Thanks for this advice. It really helped me.
Br. Michel

brjshshrma said:
Now i m not a developer but as a Custom ROM (Indroid 4.3) user I keep chasing clarkkov. Marcei is right, we all came to XDA as we were not satisfied with our stock ROM.
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Well not ALL of us.
I came here because I always mod the hell out of EVERY device I own. (Playstation, Wii, smartphones, windows, etc...)
But getting back to the op... there were lots of things I liked better about my 2.1 (starting with the keyboard and the wallpapers mine came with.) But other than the fact that 2.2 runs seems to run Angry Birds a bit slower... I've been cool with it and haven't had any of the camera problems and other problems people have had.

[GUIDE] Speed Up your G2/DZ

Hi ,
I have used almost al roms for the Desire Z , many are exelent , many bad.. But no-one rom is perfect. For example you can flash CM7 , very good Rom and super fast but the visuals are not like Sense..Or you can flash for example a Sense ROM , very good visuals but not so much ram , and laggy sometimes.
So this guide is for user that want to have Sense Rom's running well , and to speed up their device.
Here there are my suggestions to help you , if your sense-rom is not fast as you want , and it's laggy.
All of this suggestion try for your own risk.
Ok let's start legit..
First of all , do not use live wallpapers , because your CPU will load to much , even if you have overclocked it.
Move your apps-games into the SDCard , in this way you will keep more possible your device "clean"
Overclock your device , alias Desire Z. You can choose between a lot of kernels , my suggest is not to overclock it more than 1.3Ghz or you will have to re-boot your phone many times. I use Unity's Kernel wich allows swap , and overclocking to 2Ghz. And i remeber , to have a clean overclocking you need free ram , or your phone will be not responsable.
Use the v6Supercharger with the option "Mega Ram 2" , this is a very good script and working , i got +30MB of ram with using this script wich is a very good solution if you have a sense-rom like me. link is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
I add if you use the script to not use task-killers
Swap your SDcard , honestly i do not get to much advantages with doing it , but meybe for someone will be interesting
For now this are my small suggest's , when i will have another suggestions i will update the thread
Many links:
Swap -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323447
v6Supercharger -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Unity Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121937
Rom suggestion: RcMix 4.0 by NRGZ , the fastest sense-rom for now with sense 3.5

Maybe you should fix your language and your interpunction.
It makes me crazy.

Or you could use Sense 2.0 (a.k.a. Stock) until ICS is up and ready, as it has good looks AND performance.
At least that's what I did. Got sick of jumping from one ROM to another on a weekly (sometimes even daily) basis just to find one that runs smooth.
Shame, though, really love Sense 3.5.

No offence but this thread pretty useless. Mostly everybody knows about these.
Maybe you should put this in the General section so new users can know what to do.
Just my opinion.

Looks like our new mod will be doing some housekeeping pretty soon.

SWEET THREAD!
not...

DarkMio said:
Maybe you should fix your language and your interpunction.
It makes me crazy.
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How to fix my lenguage? With flashing english on my brain?
Z!GZA!G said:
No offence but this thread pretty useless. Mostly everybody knows about these.
Maybe you should put this in the General section so new users can know what to do.
Just my opinion.
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That's not true. If you think that all we are devolpers , you are right.

xdadevolpers said:
How to fix my lenguage? With flashing english on my brain?
That's not true. If you think that all we are devolpers , you are right.
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You were supposed to open this thread in Android General Thread Section (treaks and etc.), but not here. So, wrong thread section yet pretty useless.

xdadevolpers said:
How to fix my lenguage? With flashing english on my brain?
That's not true. If you think that all we are devolpers , you are right.
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Language. By flashing English onto my brain.
DevElopers. Not devolpers.

xdadevolpers said:
How to fix my lenguage? With flashing english on my brain?
That's not true. If you think that all we are devolpers , you are right.
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Effing ROFLMAO. Well played, non-English speaking guy, well played.
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After trying all these awesome tips my DZ is flying!!! Like..... really flying..................

Yikes guys, take it easy on the him eh?
He's only trying to be helpful, and there are a few things I just read that I did not know beforehand.
"to have a clean overclocking you need free ram"
I have noticed that my phone does slow down when I opened/exited many apps, no matter how much I overclock it. I do resort to using a rudimentary task killer at times to free up ram on CM7. That's the only way my device becomes snappy again. Either that or reboot.
The G2 has a healthy amount of RAM, but can be overwhelmed a little easily.
And yes, our phones cannot handle live wallpapers with ease. You can notice a little lag. I guess the G2 is not as high end as I once thought it was.

I'd like to know from another source before we take the better overclocking with free ram idea as gospel.
Anyone confirm this? Not through testing - with actual facts?

captainreynolds said:
I'd like to know from another source before we take the better overclocking with free ram idea as gospel.
Anyone confirm this? Not through testing - with actual facts?
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It's not so much that more ram = better overclock but rather more free ram = more cached processes = less calculations needed to be done by the cpu so THEORETICALLY fast processing

It's very useful tip.. for me at least.. ..thanks man..

Same here thanks for the info

It's got some useful tips actually.
But it should probably be moved to the General section.
Thanks op.

his username is xdadevolpers - so obviously this thread should be moved to the brand new devolpment section
hey, I have a tip for OP - I heard that iPhones really are the best, you never even have to remove the battery, they even got rid of that pesky battery door!

xdadevolpers said:
How to fix my lenguage? With flashing english on my brain?
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You posting this thread is retarded, but that was pretty clever. hahahaha

WTF? said:
his username is xdadevolpers - so obviously this thread should be moved to the brand new devolpment section
hey, I have a tip for OP - I heard that iPhones really are the best, you never even have to remove the battery, they even got rid of that pesky battery door!
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Your bridge is waiting for you trolllllll

Unofficially Official Rom

OK I have been reading threads in this forums and I'm sorta lost and annoyed. I read a thread saying that an official update for ICS can brick your phone so you need to do a full reset or something like that. I am confused as to why an official release 'might brick your phone' and I 'should proceed with cautions'. An official release of any OS should be stable and shouldn't cause such issues right?
I am pretty upset that ICS is still yet released for Galaxy Note, not talking about the prototype but the full software and still with the prototype it is 'risky' to update. Honestly I don't bother with custom OS, I prefer official releases and just have it rooted but now I am looking towards 'PARANOIDANDROID' rom, though I haven't flashed it because I'm waiting for it to be updated (so it can play MP4 and other stuff) but still its released faster than the official full ICS and has several features the android people should have added in the begining that are not added to ics. (Only one thing is PA doesn't have SNOTE which is kinda essential to the phone and I don't think the devs will add it) So because of this I also find it really dumb that our warranty is voided if we flash a custom firmware.
I am really confused as to what is happening and am I wrong at some part, can some one explain and post your thoughts about this topic. My point of this thread is just to ask about the 'may brick your phone' part and to see what you guys think about this entire thing with android and their prototypes instead of official releases and cfw. I truely blame android's (or samsung) latesness in releasing the OS for people opting for custom roms than sticking to the official ones. Android really has so much potential since it is 'open' unlike iOS but they are not bringing their A game to the table.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662124

RochiWizz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662124
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I don't understand the whole thing but it's really scary and i'm now afraid to flash a CFW and i really wanna avoid bricking my phone. Can someone explain it more clearly, from what I understand if we flashed ICS leaks and flash back from recoveries we are bound to have issues??? Am i wrong, can someone explain??

AFAIK.... paranoid rom is cm9 based which is perfectly safe... so worth taking a shot...
Im on paranoid rom too... working great... going to try the updated version tonight

we are on the same page mate...
i prefer stock + root/cwm.... i really dont bother with custom rom...
and this bug is the biggest troll on gnote

thank you kvsandeepreddy for clearing up my doubts, I flashed v1 of PA but lacked a few stuff and am so glad to see v2, but I doubt you can play mp4 files on the stock video player as android needs to release their source code and I really need that feature and hate other players, but anyway hope they would fix it all soon and port SNOTE (which I don't think they will but I keep saying it)
musashiro, I suspect you are still on GB like me and honestly I don't think it's worth it waiting for Samsung to release ICS, first they don't have an exact date for the full release and even if they did release a full update now, PARANOIDANDROID has soo many features that ICS lacks and won't be added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
You can check this page out, it is the ROM, it's super cool and it's screen shots looks promising, also PA has both tablet and phone mode. I find it hypocritical when Samsung promoted the NOTE as a 'Phone? Table?' and force us with a phone mode indirectly making it a phone and making us the same as other normal phone owners when we clearly aren't. So PA sorta fixes it and gives us both phone and tablet mode making it truly a 'Phone? Table?' allowing us to chose which mode we want.

fabu09 said:
thank you kvsandeepreddy for clearing up my doubts, I flashed v1 of PA but lacked a few stuff and am so glad to see v2, but I doubt you can play mp4 files on the stock video player as android needs to release their source code and I really need that feature and hate other players, but anyway hope they would fix it all soon and port SNOTE (which I don't think they will but I keep saying it)
musashiro, I suspect you are still on GB like me and honestly I don't think it's worth it waiting for Samsung to release ICS, first they don't have an exact date for the full release and even if they did release a full update now, PARANOIDANDROID has soo many features that ICS lacks and won't be added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
You can check this page out, it is the ROM, it's super cool and it's screen shots looks promising, also PA has both tablet and phone mode. I find it hypocritical when Samsung promoted the NOTE as a 'Phone? Table?' and force us with a phone mode indirectly making it a phone and making us the same as other normal phone owners when we clearly aren't. So PA sorta fixes it and gives us both phone and tablet mode making it truly a 'Phone? Table?' allowing us to chose which mode we want.
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Mate for playing videos use mxplayer app from play store.... i ve been using this player from my first day... i dont even remember using the stock player.... controls are easy too...
And regarding the s pen and others it is not possible because they work only in touchwiz framework and the pa rom is based on cm9 which has nothing to do with samsung.... u can try an app called papyrus beta whic is far better than snote....
Personally i hate the official ics and dint even use it for a day...

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Mate for playing videos use mxplayer app from play store.... i ve been using this player from my first day... i dont even remember using the stock player.... controls are easy too...
And regarding the s pen and others it is not possible because they work only in touchwiz framework and the pa rom is based on cm9 which has nothing to do with samsung.... u can try an app called papyrus beta whic is far better than snote....
Personally i hate the official ics and dint even use it for a day...
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I already currently use mxplayer, but I use it to only play .mov videos that I take using my iPad or iPod that I keep on my phone (home movies). I prefer the stock one as it has options for proper resize of videos and looks nice without ads. But thanks anyway for the suggestion and I will checkout papyrus, just hope that at least papyrus allows for proper backup, hope I enjoy PA just as much as you do (you seem like your having the time of your life with it)

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(you seem like your having the time of your life with it)
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Yep... that is true... thanks to imilka.... but also looking forward to stunnerz next release....

kvsandeepreddy said:
Yep... that is true... thanks to imilka.... but also looking forward to stunnerz next release....
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What rom is that?

fabu09 said:
What rom is that?
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That is the best rom ive used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552554
Check that link.... but i dont advise u to flash now that because it is based on lp6 kernel which is easily brickable... but u are safe until u wipe in cmw.... neobuddy(stunner rom creator) is building a new rom as we speak.....

kvsandeepreddy said:
That is the best rom ive used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552554
Check that link.... but i dont advise u to flash now that because it is based on lp6 kernel which is easily brickable... but u are safe until u wipe in cmw.... neobuddy(stunner rom creator) is building a new rom as we speak.....
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It's OK but from screen shots PA looks much more enticing than the stunner and since additionally you advised not to flash it now I will just stick to PA but Supernote looks cool, there is always something in every ROM that I want.... if only there was an ultimate ROM with everything.

fabu09 said:
It's OK but from screen shots PA looks much more enticing than the stunner and since additionally you advised not to flash it now I will just stick to PA but Supernote looks cool, there is always something in every ROM that I want.... if only there was an ultimate ROM with everything.
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Haha true... but not possible with some ppl liking the tw and others plain aosp etc

kvsandeepreddy said:
Haha true... but not possible with some ppl liking the tw and others plain aosp etc
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Yea I guess your right, hard to please everyone. The entire aosp and aokp and others really confuse me but honestly from what I have seen so far, (alot of YouTube demos of roms) PA looks the best and the PAD on it is a big deal but I decided not to flash v0.2 yet and wait for some more updates as people are commenting on issues with battery and something about SD and internal cards being switched or something and other issues. I really want that rom but the issues people comment about are pretty crucial to be fixed especially battery so I guess I'll just wait for a more stable update. Is it wrong to say v1.0 is a real release and 0.2 is still beta??
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ROM Request Thread

Hi guys i am making a rom request thread for wildfire. I searched for this type of thread but it was not present for our wildfire buzz so i am making one. The purpose of this thread is allow users have their favourite rom on our small but powerful beast.
So feel free to request a rom.
Keep In Mind That
- Gingerbread/CM7 based Roms will be fully stable
- Ice cream sandwich/CM9 based roms will have some issues (NO youtube HQ video, No native video recording, No panorama camera)
- Jellybean/CM10 based roms can now be ported. They will have no native camera and camcorder and other minor bugs. Dont complain if they are laggy.
- Dont ask for roms already present for wildfire
- For best compatiblity look for a rom designed for a phone with below specs
- QVGA (240 x 320) resolution
- Arm v6
- LDPI ( Low pixel density)
- Roms from high end phones can also be ported to wildfire but they need alot of resizing and fixing so expect bugs.
List of phones that are best to port roms to wildfire
- samsung galaxy mini
- samsung galaxy fit
- lg optimus me
- htc tatoo
- sony ericsson xperia x10 mini
- sony ericsson xperia x10 mini pro (not sure about this because it has a hardware qwerty keyboard)
Searching for more phones
Thanks, now lets get started

Any wp7 rom ?
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-as you say-
:/

Here's one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101165
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For your knowledge roms are related to development. I saw other rom request threads in the development section of different phones. You also posted cyanogenmod tweaks in wildfire android development thread even it is not related to development of any kind.
So please learn to respect others.
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Just 1 question
Is it possible porting htc explorer's roms ?
It is also 320*240 phone.
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alamgirqazi said:
Just 1 question
Is it possible porting htc explorer's roms ?
It is also 320*240 phone.
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htc explorer is 320×480,that's mdpi not ldpi.And it has an armv7 professor,unlike our armv6..so it would be pretty hard and time consuming to port those roms but certainly not impossible.

Yes!
I just asked myself why someone not make a rom that is ugly ugly ugly (ok not really) But actually not much good looking but speedy
anyway...
I dont like roms that are based on stable cm 7.2 coz of sound bug that obviously no one experiencing except me, i dont even try those rom coz i know how its gonna be
My mainly problem with roms is that ppl try to make it good looking and not so fast. I like very simple, not fully minimal look but close to it.
It can look like that word with four letters, first is "S" and last is "T" you know... if its fast and stable, im satisfied
And my problem also is that im a bit crazy, i dont like waiting when launching apps lol which is very slow on wildfire.
So, rom i would like to see is, based on CM7 2013 nightly, Have included app2sd script, so no need for link2sd, and also can have as optional (or not ) script or how you call it... ram compache... SWAP partition on SD card like i dont know 500 or 250mb... (Actually it is my latest discovery... ok ill explain. I read some things about swap, and that other things, how someone use it others dont, there is no difference etc. So i decided to try it with "ROEHSOFT RAM-EXPANDER - ROOT" app. I gave about 450MB swap space, and it works. I launch application once and its there, much faster than launching it again and again because android kills it when im on low ram, of course. I heard that my SD card will not last much, i dont care SD cards are cheap these days. Still testing will open thread latter, maybe)
I forgot what i wanted to say actually...

massofsin said:
I just asked myself why someone not make a rom that is ugly ugly ugly (ok not really) But actually not much good looking but speedy
anyway...
I dont like roms that are based on stable cm 7.2 coz of sound bug that obviously no one experiencing except me, i dont even try those rom coz i know how its gonna be
My mainly problem with roms is that ppl try to make it good looking and not so fast. I like very simple, not fully minimal look but close to it.
It can look like that word with four letters, first is "S" and last is "T" you know... if its fast and stable, im satisfied
And my problem also is that im a bit crazy, i dont like waiting when launching apps lol which is very slow on wildfire.
So, rom i would like to see is, based on CM7 2013 nightly, Have included app2sd script, so no need for link2sd, and also can have as optional (or not ) script or how you call it... ram compache... SWAP partition on SD card like i dont know 500 or 250mb... (Actually it is my latest discovery... ok ill explain. I read some things about swap, and that other things, how someone use it others dont, there is no difference etc. So i decided to try it with "ROEHSOFT RAM-EXPANDER - ROOT" app. I gave about 450MB swap space, and it works. I launch application once and its there, much faster than launching it again and again because android kills it when im on low ram, of course. I heard that my SD card will not last much, i dont care SD cards are cheap these days. Still testing will open thread latter, maybe)
I forgot what i wanted to say actually...
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Have u tried using latest cm 7(2013) because after all it is a nightly while cm7.2 is old but stable.
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massofsin said:
I dont like roms that are based on stable cm 7.2 coz of sound bug that obviously no one experiencing except me, i dont even try those rom coz i know how its gonna be
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For the sound bug you mention, there is a simple solution for it.
"Disable the camera shutter sound".
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AndroidAddiction said:
Have u tried using latest cm 7(2013) because after all it is a nightly while cm7.2 is old but stable.
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did you read what I said? im curently using cm7 nightly 2013, and it is good.
Yeah stable like when you answer a call you ask yourself what is going on?! I can not hear anything... oh its my phone bugged again... rebooting... which means 2 minutes when you be able to call that pearson who called you and in those moments that 2 minutes are important... afterall nightly is perfect
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saadislam said:
For the sound bug you mention, there is a simple solution for it.
"Disable the camera shutter sound".
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Tried does not work for me. (first thing i do is that so I can take pucture of girls in public.. kiddin ) maybe I should film my life to prove that bug lol

Wasimk32 said:
htc explorer is 320×480,that's mdpi not ldpi.And it has an armv7 professor,unlike our armv6..so it would be pretty hard and time consuming to port those roms but certainly not impossible.
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Oh sad
Coz there are few special roms made for it only for less battery comsumption and good performance.
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massofsin said:
I just asked myself why someone not make a rom that is ugly ugly ugly (ok not really) But actually not much good looking but speedy
anyway...
I dont like roms that are based on stable cm 7.2 coz of sound bug that obviously no one experiencing except me, i dont even try those rom coz i know how its gonna be
My mainly problem with roms is that ppl try to make it good looking and not so fast. I like very simple, not fully minimal look but close to it.
It can look like that word with four letters, first is "S" and last is "T" you know... if its fast and stable, im satisfied
And my problem also is that im a bit crazy, i dont like waiting when launching apps lol which is very slow on wildfire.
So, rom i would like to see is, based on CM7 2013 nightly, Have included app2sd script, so no need for link2sd, and also can have as optional (or not ) script or how you call it... ram compache... SWAP partition on SD card like i dont know 500 or 250mb... (Actually it is my latest discovery... ok ill explain. I read some things about swap, and that other things, how someone use it others dont, there is no difference etc. So i decided to try it with "ROEHSOFT RAM-EXPANDER - ROOT" app. I gave about 450MB swap space, and it works. I launch application once and its there, much faster than launching it again and again because android kills it when im on low ram, of course. I heard that my SD card will not last much, i dont care SD cards are cheap these days. Still testing will open thread latter, maybe)
I forgot what i wanted to say actually...
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I agree with you. I also like it simple and fast.
How about checking in other forums about such kind of rom ( which is fast ) and see if it can be ported to wildfire. E.g xperia mini x10 roms can easily be ported. ( correct me if i am wrong )
@wasim can u write down here a list of phones that have kind of have same specs as wildfire. E.g xperia mini x 10 and galaxy fit ( correct me if i'm wrong )
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alamgirqazi said:
Oh sad
Coz there are few special roms made for it only for less battery comsumption and good performance.
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I agree with you. I also like it simple and fast.
How about checking in other forums about such kind of rom ( which is fast ) and see if it can be ported to wildfire. E.g xperia mini x10 roms can easily be ported. ( correct me if i am wrong )
@wasim can u write down here a list of phones that have kind of have same specs as wildfire. E.g xperia mini x 10 and galaxy fit ( correct me if i'm wrong )
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there are very few ldpi ones,xperia x10 mini,x10 mini pro,galaxy mini,galaxy fit,lg optimus p350,htc tattoo etc .

Wasimk32 said:
there are very few ldpi ones,xperia x10 mini,x10 mini pro,galaxy mini,galaxy fit,lg optimus p350,htc tattoo etc .
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There are few JB roms for xperia x 10 mini pro.
Can they be ported ?
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alamgirqazi said:
There are few JB roms for xperia x 10 mini pro.
Can they be ported ?
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look to port jb roms,we first need to have a working jb base rom.And we dont have any,so they can't be ported.
We are having various ics roms just because there's a source built cm9 by ErwinP.
so unless we have a a working base,we cant port roms.

Wasimk32 said:
look to port jb roms,we first need to have a working jb base rom.And we dont have any,so they can't be ported.
We are having various ics roms just because there's a source built cm9 by ErwinP.
so unless we have a a working base,we cant port roms.
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oh ! i forgot that it has to be ported to a base rom and we dont have any JB base rom

alamgirqazi said:
oh ! i forgot that it has to be ported to a base rom and we dont have any JB base rom
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Actually we have a jb rom compiled from source but it was last updated in july 2012. I think the developer stopped working on it.
Btw i am impressed by galaxy mini community. They have a fully working jb/CM10 rom but we dont even have fully stable cm9 rom.

AndroidAddiction said:
Actually we have a jb rom compiled from source but it was last updated in july 2012. I think the developer stopped working on it.
Btw i am impressed by galaxy mini community. They have a fully working jb/CM10 rom but we dont even have fully stable cm9 rom.
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Now you are being hard on our devs.
Remember mate,that we don't have a gpu and mini has it !
If we had a gpu,we would have got many more things than we have now.And cm9 working almost perfectly on our gpu less device is nothing less than a miracle !

Wasimk32 said:
Now you are being hard on our devs.
Remember mate,that we don't have a gpu and mini has it !
If we had a gpu,we would have got many more things than we have now.And cm9 working almost perfectly on our gpu less device is nothing less than a miracle !
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I think wildfire was made mainly for camera use etc. Not for gaming etc though
Anyways it has a fantastic camera . 5MP CAMERA, ways better than other smartphones. Also don't forget that its a budget phone.
AndroidAddiction said:
Actually we have a jb rom compiled from source but it was last updated in july 2012. I think the developer stopped working on it.
Btw i am impressed by galaxy mini community. They have a fully working jb/CM10 rom but we dont even have fully stable cm9 rom.
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custom roms for arc s review

hi every one
i would like to open a thread about reviews on custom roms on ARC S
reviews made as ORDINARY USER
it is just about how you think of your device AFTER a custom rom
what you like or dislike.....
what you miss or need and didn't found ....(no need to tell how and what you do , because that's another subject)
NO NEED to post Q or BUGS or HOW TO or REQUESTS or DEEP DEVELOPER details JUST....USER OPINION!!!
AND please give credits to the developers of the ROMS by posting links to threads you found the custom rom in.
Starting form here:
Arc S with rooted GB (LT18i 4.0.2.A.0.62) and CWM installed
AtoMic GB 5.0 final (custom rom)
AtoMic Gb 5.0 Arc S patch!
Atomic mod system ui
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083286
-device working fine no lags or errors ..until now
-installing apps &games and they are working good for me
-no file manager pre-installed
-don't like ring tones
my overall opinion it is GOOD rom to try!!!:good::good:

You should use the respective Rom threads to post reveiws about romS!
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allright if everyone wants it

Well I think it's a good idea for a thread that could help people in finding ROM's with features they are looking for. I dislike posting off topic so here I go:
CyanogenMod 10
+Clean
+Stable
+Fast
+Not as bloated as stock ICS
+JB notifications are useful
+Supported and actively developed
+Open source
-Camera is awful
-Ringtones could be better but who really cares?
Oh and don't take XtremeSilencer seriously he's not so bright...

pypcier said:
Well I think it's a good idea for a thread that could help people in finding ROM's with features they are looking for. I dislike posting off topic so here I go:
CyanogenMod 10
+Clean
+Stable
+Fast
+Not as bloated as stock ICS
+JB notifications are useful
+Supported and actively developed
+Open source
-Camera is awful
-Ringtones could be better but who really cares?
Oh and don't take XtremeSilencer seriously he's not so bright...
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i dont know why you want to pick up fights with everyone?
ya right i forgot.. you dont belong here

pypcier said:
Well I think it's a good idea for a thread that could help people in finding ROM's with features they are looking for.
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The way People can find what they're looking for is by reading the ROM threads in the development section, not by reading noobs opinions on one of the many variations of a "best ROM" thread, which this is, evident by the short summary of what the OP thinks about the ROM.
I can't agree more. Which ROM is the fastest? Which kernel is best? etc. etc. It's like walking into a bar and asking which drink is the best. You can't get your answer because every person around has a personal taste and looking for something different.
Going further. Telling that one ROM is better than another is quite disrespectful to developers. Most of them spent much time making their work for FREE and one guy can easily depreciate their work.
If you're looking for answer - try. It's easy and making it on your own is much funnier than looking for spoon feeding in every situations. Thinking is fun
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pypcier said:
Oh and don't take XtremeSilencer seriously he's not so bright...
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Their signature shows they're a bit brighter, and bigger contributor than you're ever going to be.

Sorry ,,i try 3 or 4 rom,,,i think rom ULTIMATE HD 3.0.2 FROM JADDER IS BATTER,,,you must try it,,
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syahipul said:
Sorry ,,i try 3 or 4 rom,,,i think rom ULTIMATE HD 3.0.2 FROM JADDER IS BATTER,,,you must try it,,
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I can't see this as valid review, because every user is different and every user has its own needs. 2 people will not have totally same user experience on same ROM and kernel.

XtremeSilencer said:
You should use the respective Rom threads to post reveiws about romS!
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allright if everyone wants it
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yes if we want to review a SPECEFIC ROM .This thread is about USER OPINIO about the custom Rom they tried...and any comments about that OPINION is welcomed

syahipul said:
Sorry ,,i try 3 or 4 rom,,,i think rom ULTIMATE HD 3.0.2 FROM JADDER IS BATTER,,,you must try it,,
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Need to know why it's better for you and why the others are not....

XperienceD said:
The wanoon pikople can find what they're looking for is by reading the ROM threads in the development section, not by reading noobs opinions on one of the many variations of a "best ROM" thread, which this is, evident by the short summary of what the OP thinks about the ROM.
Their signature shows they're a bit brighter, and bigger contributor than you're ever going to be.
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No need to turn the thread into (picking on noobs)thread it's about USER OPINIONS NOOBS OR NON-NOOBS
No need mock or disrespect commenters just because YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAN THEM
No need to tell any one where or how to find ROMS
As long as no forum rules is broken :
Don't tell any one what and what not to say
Don't turn commenting into PERSONAL.
And last thing;
IAM A NOOB AND NOOBS ARE WELCOME TO FEEL FREE AND SHARE COMMENTS here on this thread.....Cause that's what this forum is all about SHARE...FREE..COMMENTS

Wrong. XDA is a developers' site. If you're a noob, then make yourself not one, or leave
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Actually I have an Ultimate HD of course, with Ultimate HD Mod and I like it very much.
+almost no lags
+xperia z theme
+modded statusbar (better than stock, I think)
+configurable
+quite frequent updates
-few useless system apps
Grade: 5,5 (in Poland we have grading scale from 2-5 at universities )
Previously I had used several other ROM`s, for example Viper Xpieria (good, 4,5-5), Racing Bean (not so good, 3-3,5), CyanogenMod 10 (good, 4), MIUI (good, 4), Jelly Sandwich (very good, 5, but it`s no longer developed I think) and CAMPS+ (bad, 2,5-3).
So to sum up, in my opinion the best ROM actually is Ultimate HD + Ultimate HD Mod, cause of no lagging, stability, and almost no bugs.

I've been using Custom ROMs for about 6 months. So, didn't try too many of them. The reason why I switched to custom ROM was Sony Bloatware and the slowness of official ICS ROM. What I was looking for was more internal space and get the phone up to GB speeds.
First try was CM9.
+ Easy to install, best documentation out there,
+ Good customization options,
+ Frees up load of memory,
+ The GUI doesn't lag too much
+ Fast boot-up.
- Apollo player (hated it and due to regional issues, I couldn't install Google Music),
- WiFi issues
Next I tried racing bean with Fusion 4.4
+ The GUI is much more fluid than anything I tried on my Arc,
+ Customization is on the same level as CM9,
+ Same internal storage usage as CM9,
+ Includes good players/utilities,
+ Battery life didn't shorten despite the fact that the phone became more fluid and responsive,
+ WiFi locks very fast and stable,
+ No issues with 3G,
- There are 3 camera programs included. The panaroma one doesn't even launch (force close immediately). The other two are definitely below the Sony's original camera application,
- The kernel boot takes forever. I see the Fusion logo for about 40 seconds. Once the Nexus animation starts, the boot-up goes very fast. I get the feeling that the Fusion kernel is waiting for a timeout,
- The phone reboots occasionally. Especially when GPS is used (like with dedicated navigation programs). I think when the phone is under heavy load (you feel that the GUI starts stuttering and lag becomes apparent) almost immediately the Nexus X logo comes up.
I heard good things about the Ultimate HD ROM. Will try that one once I get some free time.

babkir said:
yes if we want to review a SPECEFIC ROM .This thread is about USER OPINIO about the custom Rom they tried...and any comments about that OPINION is welcomed
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Each user will have different experience with each ROM. So an opinion from a certain user about a certain ROM may differ from another user. The only way to truly find the best ROM for your phone is to try it out.
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tangosierra_ said:
Wrong. XDA is a developers' site. If you're a noob, then make yourself not one, or leave
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i know XDA is a developers' site it's on the TITLE..... but leaving is another thing,when i breaks a forum rule i think i will be forced to leave till that happen(if it could ever) i think i will STAY. after all WRONG or WRIHT depends on where you STAND and WHAT you are tallking about.
The NOOB-thing:
if the site admins don't LIKE noobs or don't WANT them to post they coud have made subuscrition rule that ANY ONE shoud POST some thing he actually DEVEOPED before posting
AND for GOD'S sake don't keep on posting anti-noobs or NO-use comments here...if you want it to die just wait for it....don't bother to replay..you'll just make it last longer!!!!

popthosegaskets said:
Each user will have different experience with each ROM. So an opinion from a certain user about a certain ROM may differ from another user. The only way to truly find the best ROM for your phone is to try it out.
僕のLT18iから送られてきた
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and that different experience we would like to share and not HOW to find BEST ROM

babkir said:
and that different experience we would like to share and not HOW to find BEST ROM
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u should try by yourself. believe me buddy, its fun if you try by youself. This is not about how you install something that is inserted into your device, and you show people that you mostly have advanced technology. more than that comrade ... it's about development.
respect those who have tried to create a custom ROM and share it here...

X-gamer is SUPER FAST!!!
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Stupid Macbook Air can't fly

good room and very flixable but have 2 prob power sever axperia arc s 4.0.4 and restart phone

Best ROM's for Arc S (Stable only)
Well I don't have 10 post under my belt so I can not post on developer thread but am a hyper droid flasher. Rooted my phone the very next day and voided its warranty. Since then have used many many ROMs but only few are there to remember.
Let me just go by Droid OS versions:
1. ICS 4.0.4= Pureness ROMS, VIPER
2. JB 4.1.2 = Slim bean or Super JB
3. JB 4.2.2 = Paranod Android v3.6 (Rizal Lovins) My current ROM