My old sony ericcson phone used to hold an sms in the outbox if i had no signal and send it when i did.
This phone just pops up a very annoying message saying it cant be sent. I live in an area with very poor signal, and really need this phone to try for a while before telling me it cant send.
How can this be done?
darksupernova said:
My old sony ericcson phone used to hold an sms in the outbox if i had no signal and send it when i did.
This phone just pops up a very annoying message saying it cant be sent. I live in an area with very poor signal, and really need this phone to try for a while before telling me it cant send.
How can this be done?
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Do search and ask around the ROM Development thread.
Pretty sure there's a cab to turn off the annoying notification.
As for the how many times the device should try to attempt sending an SMS before giving up, it should be somewhere in the Messaging setting for SMS/MMS. Please check. But you should consider that it will drain your battery rigorously.
im interested in this too, ur option BumAround doesnt awnser his question. he just wants the phone to see hey i got signal lets send this message i have in my outbox. not letting the phone keep trying to send it. (wich at its highest settings only tries to send it for like 30 seconds.)
@ jamieeeee, your right, is it possible to program the phone to do this? As i ponted out, its not new technology, and im surprised all phones dont do it!
exactly where is the setting to try sending out [messages, be it SMS or MMS] for 30 sec attempt? I thought it was only how many attempts (read: times)
well, if that being the case, no solution that I know of except: (1)experiment with better radio ROM, or (2)install a signal booster at where you live. Sorry.
i asked this question before... but it got brushed off considering that most people on here very seldom help other members.... but yea.. i despise having to constantly retry send over and over until i get better reception and it finally goes through... i would much rather have it just continue trying ON ITS OWN... there has to be a tweak or something which enables something so simple as this... i will continue searching but let me know if you find any updates towards it.. THIS WILL BE VERY USEFUL TO ME... i also live in a area with poor reception... (sucks cause RIGHT when i leave my apartments and onto the streets.. i have 3g...) lame...
I have been asking for since i first came to windows mobile early 2009, havnt found a single thing yet!
If my sony ericcson k750i can do it without losing its battery, then why cant a much more advanced windows mobile device do it!?
ProjektFuze said:
i asked this question before... but it got brushed off considering that most people on here very seldom help other members.... but yea.. i despise having to constantly retry send over and over until i get better reception and it finally goes through... i would much rather have it just continue trying ON ITS OWN... there has to be a tweak or something which enables something so simple as this... i will continue searching but let me know if you find any updates towards it.. THIS WILL BE VERY USEFUL TO ME... i also live in a area with poor reception... (sucks cause RIGHT when i leave my apartments and onto the streets.. i have 3g...) lame...
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Well, but then constantly attempting to send on its own will mean battery drains, don't you think?
What you actually want is a cab that makes the phone on perpetual attempts mode until it succeeded, and then prompt a notice, is it ?
I still believe your best bet is to install signal booster somewhere in your house. Well, upon googling, I stumbled into this survivalist's method, cheap sticker thingy, to this expensive amp/booster.
BumAround said:
Well, but then constantly attempting to send on its own will mean battery drains, don't you think?
What you actually want is a cab that makes the phone on perpetual attempts mode until it succeeded, and then prompt a notice, is it ?
I still believe your best bet is to install signal booster somewhere in your house. Well, upon googling, I stumbled into this survivalist's method, cheap sticker thingy, to this expensive amp/booster.
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in short..........
NO.... i don't "think" that sending a sms will put a drain to the battery.. even when retrying on its own... like the OP has stated.. old flip phones and what not have that ability so i HIGHLY doubt that it would be much different on a far more advanced phone... dont YOU think???
Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
bobbified said:
Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
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Yes thats exactly what we need, but i have no idea where to start..... Does anyone?
ProjektFuze said:
in short..........
NO.... i don't "think" that sending a sms will put a drain to the battery.. even when retrying on its own... like the OP has stated.. old flip phones and what not have that ability so i HIGHLY doubt that it would be much different on a far more advanced phone... dont YOU think???
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bobbified said:
Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
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still doubting that *perpetual attempts* of sending out an SMS will NOT drain the batt. oh well, but anyway....
so, the SMS is designed to sit in the outbox until the phone detects decent amount of signal strength to (re)sending out the SMS successfully.
all being said, the OP actually need the *failure message* (due to signal strength or no signal) to be silenced (no pop up window), until the SMS is being sent out successfully.
does it make sense?
I was sitting on the train on my way home a few minutes ago and found a registry key that LOOKs like it might have something to with this:
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Setting\SendRetryIntervalTemp
that's got a value of "5 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60"...
by looking at the value of the key, it looks like it retries 5 seconds after the first failed attempt... then 60 secs between each retry after that and perhaps gives up after the tenth fail?
The registry key is in the "HTCMessaging" folder, which I think is the folder that to covers emails, mms and sms. So it really could apply to any of those three items.
Maybe someone with a bit more knowledge than myself can help shed some light?
btw.. I have not made any attempts to modify or test the above, so if you do, you're doing it at your own risk! Just looks like an interesting key..
i think we're getting close.. someone please
bobbified said:
I was sitting on the train on my way home a few minutes ago and found a registry key that LOOKs like it might have something to with this:
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Setting\SendRetryIntervalTemp
that's got a value of "5 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60"...
by looking at the value of the key, it looks like it retries 5 seconds after the first failed attempt... then 60 secs between each retry after that and perhaps gives up after the tenth fail?
The registry key is in the "HTCMessaging" folder, which I think is the folder that to covers emails, mms and sms. So it really could apply to any of those three items.
Maybe someone with a bit more knowledge than myself can help shed some light?
btw.. I have not made any attempts to modify or test the above, so if you do, you're doing it at your own risk! Just looks like an interesting key..
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I am using the custom Energy ROM, and i have that exact same reg key, but my phone pops up a message IMMEDIATELY after i hit the send button if there is not enough signal, so either this key is for something else, for the ROM im using has been altered.
It would makes sense if this key was the correct one because when i was using a stock ROM a while ago it did wait for a while before popping the message up. Anyone know what setting has been changed between my Energy ROM and the old stock one? Im guessing its been turned off to save battery.
Thanks,
Max
So, I've got an annoying issue with my DHD at the moment and am curious to see if anyone else is having it (can't find any threads yet!).
It seem's like when I restart or power-cycle my phone it starts to re-send random SMS messages from either the same day or previous day.
For example, yesterday and today I have had to restart my phone and on both occasions it re-sent SMS to 3 of my contacts. Mind you these messages were sent successfully in the first place... I could understand if it was trying to re-send SMS's which didn't make it through.
Anyone else noticing this issue?
I have experienced this once.
Sent a message on Friday 5th to my wife. On Sat 6th my phone starts lagging horribly so I restart it and on reboot it sends that text to my wife again...rebooted several times after and it didn't send it again though...
I had this issue with my Desire HD, I used the 'transfer data' app to transfer old contacts and sms messages from my blackberry 8900 curve, and a couple of days later when I restarted my phone, it started sending old messages from my new phone, complete with replies!
Turning of the phone stopped it, but then it would do it again when I restarted the phone again.
3 - 400 sms message later, I deleted all old sms message from my phone, and since then it's not done it.
I put it down to the 'transfer data' app, had anyone else used this to transfer old messages?
Nope. I started from scratch with my messages.
Are you seeing your re-sent messages on the conversations?
I only saw a message that was firstly unsuccesfully sent re-sent on reboot one time, nothing else.
For me, it took the original message and moved it further down the conversation thread to when it resent. It was not duplicated.
I tried searching but nothing really came up. Sometimes when I recieve a text message my phone soft resets itself immediately and I never get to read the text message, its not in my inbox.
Have asked someone to resend the same message twice now and its been happening.
Any ideas on whats going on here? I got thep hone in december, its never been updated, is it a known problem and is there a fix for it?
Its REALLY winding me up because I need my phone, I work on call and recieve my shifts via text message
jamesy11 said:
I tried searching but nothing really came up. Sometimes when I recieve a text message my phone soft resets itself immediately and I never get to read the text message, its not in my inbox.
Have asked someone to resend the same message twice now and its been happening.
Any ideas on whats going on here? I got thep hone in december, its never been updated, is it a known problem and is there a fix for it?
Its REALLY winding me up because I need my phone, I work on call and recieve my shifts via text message
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try hard reset as it is the only solution,or better find a new ROM and flash it,this should help.
I have been having issues with text messages. It's an intermittent problem, my Nexus 4 will just start given me text message errors when I try to send a message and I won't receive messages either. The weird thing is that this will only effect one number. I can text any other number just fine while this is happening. It is really annoying because it lasts anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour and half. Rebooting the phone does not solve the issue.
Every time this has happened it has always been the same number and I not sure if this is significant or just a coincidence since it happens to be the number for the person I text the most. Also, while this was happening I texted the same number from a different phone just for good measure and it worked fine. A couple of times it happened when I sent a text message quickly followed by another with the correction for a typo.
I'm not sure if it's my phone or the network. My Nexus 4 is on T-Mobile's monthly 4G plan. Anyone else having this problem and does anyone know of a solution? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
What is the error it gives you?
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What is the error it gives you?
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I don't remember the exact wording of it, but it was a message not sent error.
So lately my texts will randomly stop sending. Ill be texting all day and then at one point phone says nope. I have to toggle airplane mode on and off and they instantly go thru. I had a similar issue with an old S7 where it would error every other text but in fact send. So no picture that but i keep hitting resend, so now the person is getting triple texts from me. When the S8 acts up itll still receive but wont send. even if i retry after it errors out itll just keep failing. T-mobile phone btw.