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Im going to go on a 24 month contract, looking at S3 or maybe the One X. What I'm worried about though is I bought my current Sensation XE SIM free for £450, about 6 months ago and now they are selling for about £200-250 I think.
Will the S3 keep its value better? How did the S2 hold value? New to Android, had iPhones before which Sid hold value well I thought
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The second buy a smartphone it is basically worth half what you paid for it. Fact of life. Doesnt really matter what you buy.
If you happen to buy something good though it will maintain that value for a year probably.
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Expect the S3 to quickly lose value after autumn where superior devices will be released... Performance wise this device is sadly not as future proof as the S2 was at its release.
hefonthefjords said:
The second buy a smartphone it is basically worth half what you paid for it. Fact of life. Doesnt really matter what you buy.
If you happen to buy something good though it will maintain that value for a year probably.
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Except for an iphone.
Depending on how you got it, it actually rauses in price.
$1 gets you a reply
Certain phones are more desirable than others and therefore hold their value well on ebay and such.
GS2 is still one of the more desirable ones and can be sold for £250+ on ebay or recycled for £230. (after around 18 months)
Personally I reckon the GS3 will be just as popular and will hold its resale value well.
Obviously it's not in the iphone levels, but normal consumers know the galaxy s brand and it will probably stay in relatively high demand until the GS4
I see the HTC One X selling for £300 BNIB on ebay.. Although it's an excellent phone, I don't think it will be as lucky as the GS3
only apple products keep their market value because of the fact that apple uses price fixing tactics.
Yeh Apple do keep better price, I don't think I'll buy another or brand new again unless part of a contract as looks like I'm going to lost about £225, 50% after 6months
Sad fact
It is actually a sad fact to see the Galaxy S series loses value more than the iPhone series, simply because I think that Galaxy is so much better in terms of flexibility and "mod-ibility".
Apple products hold their value better because there are alot of idiots with more money than sense.
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Expect the S3 to quickly lose value after autumn where superior devices will be released... Performance wise this device is sadly not as future proof as the S2 was at its release.
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Not necessarily true, the SGSII hasn't lost a lot of it's value just look online therefore i doubt the GS3 will
Depreciation.
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Except for an iphone.
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hboos said:
Certain phones are more desirable than others and therefore hold their value well on ebay and such.
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Slight correction: phones with less competition better maintain their price (because there are fewer alternatives). The moment that viable competitors come out, the price will drop.
The iPhone is sufficiently differentiated, through brand alone, that many consumers are willing to consider it apart from all the competition. And Apple is smart enough to limit competition with itself by only releasing once in a gray moon. (Also by suing the hell out of everyone who has the audacity to release a rectangular phone.) So there you go.
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Yeh Apple do keep better price, I don't think I'll buy another or brand new again unless part of a contract as looks like I'm going to lost about £225, 50% after 6months
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You could be on the receiving end of this trend if you want; just wait a few months and you can buy it for hella cheap. It's sort of a gamble though; the Galaxy S2 held up price pretty well (it's differentiation was probably beat only by the iPhone or the Note), and it remains to see whether the S3 can do the same.
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Depreciation.
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thebobp said:
Slight correction: phones with less competition better maintain their price (because there are fewer alternatives). The moment that viable competitors come out, the price will drop.
The iPhone is sufficiently differentiated, through brand alone, that many consumers are willing to consider it apart from all the competition. And Apple is smart enough to limit competition with itself by only releasing once in a gray moon. (Also by suing the hell out of everyone who has the audacity to release a rectangular phone.) So there you go.
You could be on the receiving end of this trend if you want; just wait a few months and you can buy it for hella cheap. It's sort of a gamble though; the Galaxy S2 held up price pretty well (it's differentiation was probably beat only by the iPhone or the Note), and it remains to see whether the S3 can do the same.
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Fair enough but I would suggest that the Galaxy S series has reached some level of brand recognition..so that when lay consumers (rather than us tech geeks) think of the best phones available, they think first of the iphone and then of the galaxy S series.
I reckon that after the initial depreciation (from selling second hand), the GS3 will hold its value well until the next GS phone..
Or at least I hope it will because I'll be getting a GS3 once it comes out!
The Galaxy S II was so good because it was better then every other phone on the market, the Galaxy S III is just a bit better, or at least on par with other phones now.
What other phone is faster than the SG3? What other phone dose what the SG3 dose?
Anyhow the SG2 is still selling for loads and even phone recycle places pay over £200
50% drop?
Then that means it is down more than 50%
juDGEY2k10 said:
What other phone is faster than the SG3? What other phone dose what the SG3 dose?
Anyhow the SG2 is still selling for loads and even phone recycle places pay over £200
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Not right now, but just wait and see. Even the dualcore S4 Krait matches its speed on certain tests, there will be more ARM's A15 chips coming in near the future.
That is not to say its a bad phone, but it's not a major leap like the SII was. The price is already a give away imo, $700 after VAT, so before that its cheaper. The Nexus and Note was $800 when they were released. I think that's simply a good thing though since phones were getting too expensive. We have the OneX at $600, S3 at $700, Nexus at $400. I think its positive for consumers, could be $50 lower still.
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When I saw the title I was wondering what's being condemned.
I have a brand new in box T-Mobile hd2 I saw a bid for on eBay for a brand new one at 1,000 dollars. Do you think this phone is worth that much or even be consider a collectible?
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I have a brand new in box T-Mobile hd2 I saw a bid for on eBay for a brand new one at 1,000 dollars. Do you think this phone is worth that much or even be consider a collectible?
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Got a link to the ebay bid? Might be cool to see.
And maybe the HD2 will be known as something cool in the future, like how people still collect and use Amigas. With the dev community here and it's many possibilities, maybe it will retain some value, at least until a suitable alternative comes up (sadly, there have not been any)
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I have a brand new in box T-Mobile hd2 I saw a bid for on eBay for a brand new one at 1,000 dollars. Do you think this phone is worth that much or even be consider a collectible?
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No effing way!
I recently bought anotger HD2, a brand new unopened piece for US $285- a thousand bucks gotta be a sick joke!
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A thousand bucks is just a joke for phones.. I see many iphone 3g/4g for 1000 bucks.. Not sure why and I don't see anything special.. unless the inside is plated with gold or something
This phone is great and all but there is no way its worth $1000. I've seen places selling them a lot cheaper then that. I've bought several new
phones since owning my HD2 and I've stopped using them or have sold them and gone back to the HD2 every time and as much as I love this
phone there would be no way I'd be willing to shell out that kind of money for it. You could buy two Sensations for that price point. The seller is
crazy if they think they'll get this or anything close to it. Maybe the price didn't translate well or something,
I hunted the link down on ebay if anyone else wants to take a look..
Thanks for the link, the reason I kept one bnib was for one day to be worth a lot of money. Another seller on amazon has it for 999.95 not sure what version this are but my guess that's probably the reason for the very high price.
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I can buy brand new t-mobile US model still sealed with sim & 16GB card & have unlocked free once purchased for less than 300USD ...
It's a great device but not worth a 1,000bucks to anyone.
You guys are bursting my bubble i already went through the Bennie baby crisis during the 90's not sure if I can take the hd2 not be worth money one day. I guess it has kept its value pretty well since being out around 2 years ago.
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Kept its value as device still competes in size & style to modern handsets & has a good physical construction feel, plus with custom cross rom development it made its own unique used device market.
Common faults & ****e faulty or bad repair handsets keep used prices sensible.
I think the seller is just kidding himself to have it at such a high price, especially when an HTC One X is half that. You can set any price you want for Buy It Now.
However, new, unopened HD2s are obviously rare, (mostly because nobody was such a fool to invest in electronics), and smartphones were definitely more expensive unlocked in the recent past, so maybe he's just out of touch.
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I'm not sure if this is where I should post this, but I guess it kinda applies to this forum.
Anyways, this company apparently has really good deals. But I'm sure if they are a real/reputable company. I mean according to the post, the have brand new devices. Like a Galaxy Note for $300 and an iPhone 4S 16GB for $280. I think these deals are too good to be true, but if they are real, I want to buy things!
http://forums.techeblog.com/off-topic/3612-sale-samsung-galaxy-note-300-00-a.html
Scam.
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I'm not sure if this is where I should post this, but I guess it kinda applies to this forum.
Anyways, this company apparently has really good deals. But I'm sure if they are a real/reputable company. I mean according to the post, the have brand new devices. Like a Galaxy Note for $300 and an iPhone 4S 16GB for $280. I think these deals are too good to be true, but if they are real, I want to buy things!
http://forums.techeblog.com/off-topic/3612-sale-samsung-galaxy-note-300-00-a.html
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Buy a few and let us know how it went.
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Either scam...
Or
Chinese goods.
Both ways, back off!!!
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Either scam...
Or
Chinese goods.
Both ways, back off!!!
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That's what I though.
If you got money burning a hole in you're pocket. Do it!!!.
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Let us know when you send payment via Western Union.
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You can always gift me money and I'll price match. TROLOL.
They're charging $220 for a Motorola Backflip and $200 for the more powerful HTC Aria.
Those are both old phones, anyway, $200 is a ripoff
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HTC have made two new versions of the One with Gold or Platinium plated
Its on the market for 2,900 USD
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Ah man if only I could poop out 3,000 dollars
tsalta said:
HTC have made two new versions of the One with Gold or Platinium plated
Its on the market for 2,900 USD
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http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-edition-with-gold-and-platinum-plating-options-unveiled-24287790/
If I were as rich as to spend thousands of bucks on a phone, it'd probably be platinum, chrome, carbon-fiber or white gold.
tsalta said:
HTC have made two new versions of the One with Gold or Platinium plated
Its on the market for 2,900 USD
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HTC does not make these. A company named GoldGenie applies the plating to HTC Ones they purchase, and then resell them.
How posh , a golden phone when alot of the earth population is starving ...
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How posh , a golden phone when alot of the earth population is starving ...
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I feel for those people, I really do however, it's not our fault their poor, starving etc. It's their governments fault. If you're referring to Africa, they're one of the best economies on the earth because of it's bussling diamond trade. Their government needs to reach into their pockets for them instead of people like us for whom money is tight for most of us.
Admittedly, I agree that the gold plated phone is overpriced, but you'll probably find that it's aimed more at celebrities, CEOs etc. Not for people who are on minimum wage (in the UK it's £6.19 per hour) and I'm not ashamed to admit I'm on minimum wage, but I'd rather be on that than sat on my jack doing nothing, taking money from our taxpayers who work hard for it, but get a big FU in return.
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Lol I would if I had money to blow like that. But I would put it in a case which totally defeats having a gold One. Guess it's more for bragging rights
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I find the Gold One to be super ugly.
It'd be quite funny if you dropped it.
I will stick to the silver and if i want to pimp it up it will be with a outer case
I would definitely get the platinum One!
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Gold one costs thousands
Mines silver and cost 35quid + contract fees
Added a 15quid case I'm happy it will do the same
I think I'd have to leave it in the box and just show it at parties because I'd be too afraid of scratching/dropping/damaging it.
So then what would be the point?
MG
how are you supposed to actually USE the phone? I mean, I'd be scared at so much as looking at all that platinum O.O
If i have the money.....................
I am from Indonesia and heaps of people bought the BlackBerry 9900 "Porsche Edition". It costs about $2000. Single core of 2.8 inch screen for 2 grands. And it doesn't even have gold on it. I am sure "many" people will buy the gold or platinum HTC One
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I feel for those people, I really do however, it's not our fault their poor, starving etc. It's their governments fault. If you're referring to Africa, they're one of the best economies on the earth because of it's bussling diamond trade. Their government needs to reach into their pockets for them instead of people like us for whom money is tight for most of us.
Admittedly, I agree that the gold plated phone is overpriced, but you'll probably find that it's aimed more at celebrities, CEOs etc. Not for people who are on minimum wage (in the UK it's £6.19 per hour) and I'm not ashamed to admit I'm on minimum wage, but I'd rather be on that than sat on my jack doing nothing, taking money from our taxpayers who work hard for it, but get a big FU in return.
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pssh
blood diamonds
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pssh
blood diamonds
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I'm not African nor have ever been to Africa so I cannot comment or speculate on your comment but I'm sure only a small percentage of all the diamonds found in Africa are indeed for dictators, war party leaders etc, but lets not get off topic and start a debate, this is a development forum for mobile phones, I said what I said to reiterate the comment made by another user and I'm sure you're doing the same.
Please lets get back on topic
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HTC have made two new versions of the One with Gold or Platinium plated
Its on the market for 2,900 USD
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why in the world would anyone make a phone made out of gold? you dont want to pick it up
if they just release the HTC one in multiple colors i bet they'll have better bussiness
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/10/3/4800914/htc-q3-2013-unaudited-earnings
The mobile market is fierce, it looks like small companies have no place in it ..
Nokia, motorolla, blackberry ..
Is HTC facing the same grim future ?!
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I would hardly call HTC small. Its a failing giant. While the HTC one is a great phone, its probably too late for HTC, just as its too late for Microsoft.
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So sad to see how a good company with a great product can not get back into the race. I thought that HTC with the One will have a small revenue but no. Once again it goes under appreciated
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http://www.t3.com/news/t3-gadget-awards-2013-htc-one-wins-phone-of-the-year
http://www.htc.com/www/about/newsroom/2013/2013-08-16-HTC-One-named-best-european-advanced-smartphone-2013-2014/
The company has had a streak of terrible products for years .. And this year they redeemed themselves with a GREAT phone .. But perhaps it's already too late ..
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If you haven't notice, all of the companies that only make cellphones haven't been doing too great (Nokia, HTC, Blackberry, Motorola...etc.), it really hard to compete with these large companies (Samsung, LG, Apple, Asus, Sony...etc.) because even if one of their smartphones doesn't do too great they still got their other products from other segments of the market to bring in revenue. Samsung's domination in the market is concerning though. Its never good to have one company dominating, especially for us consumers.
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If you haven't notice, all of the companies that only make cellphones haven't been doing too great (Nokia, HTC, Blackberry, Motorola...etc.), it really hard to compete with these large companies (Samsung, LG, Apple, Asus, Sony...etc.) because even if one of their smartphones doesn't do too great they still got their other products from other segments of the market to bring in revenue.
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Its not the end of the world. The HTC One was the first stepping stone down a path of profitability. The HTC One was a success, but with that success you also need to cover the failures (their operating loss would be far greater if the One didn't do well).
With the launch of their next products, and so long as they stick with the positives of the One; improving upon them they will come back to profitability.
Their ship hasn't sailed just yet, Nokia and Blackberry have had abysmal performance for what seems like forever and are only now going the way of the dodo( and Nokia put up one hell of a fight with their devices, just bet on the wrong horse).
While true that many handset makers have other sources of income, they are also potential money pits (TV divisions for nearly all of them are in the toilet). Samsung is essentially the 800lb gorilla. They can design, manufacturer and market devices in a faster manner than the others since they can self produce most of the components as they have all that infrastructure in place. Only way to beat them, is to continually put out a stellar product that does what it should really well and better than the competition. This doesn't just go for HTC, but for any competitor.
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I would hardly call HTC small. Its a failing giant. While the HTC one is a great phone, its probably too late for HTC, just as its too late for Microsoft.
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I can't speak for HTC but Microsoft is going absolutely no where. It's ridiculous to even compare Microsoft's situation to HTC's. With that, frankly, I don't believe HTC is going anywhere either. They are on a better road right now.
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I feel like the ad campaign for the One was quite lacking, especially compared to recent Samsung and Nokia commercials. The One is an amazing device, but (for the average consumer) if they haven't heard their friends talking about it, they're not likely to get it.
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This actually makes me kind of sad.
I mean, I really really dont understand why the One is not getting the love by the consumers that it does by all the award titles.
What do the phone sellers do anyway? Shov the S4 up the buyer's throat and make them buy it?
Don't people read reviews on the internet before they head over to the store to buy a device?
The family of my girl is also the typical S4 buyer, where already 3 of them did.
Her brother got the S4 and had craploads of problems with it, he could have bought the S3 for that matter, he said.
I came in with my HTC One and showed all of them my device was superiour in every freakin way.
Four months later, the mother AND the sister are walking around with the S4 too...
I mean, WHAT THE HELL? Dont they listen?
Ah well, as long as HTC does not fall and the support for the device stops, I'm happy with it.
I've had the S2 for two years, and I were pretty satisfied. But every time I pick up my One, I get this "wow" factor.
I find myself just holding and watching the device, being amazed about the build quality, it just has no competitors in those terms.
Things will get worse before they get better in anything!
Beleive me I have given up smoking and my lungs feel worse than when i was smoking lol! They will however get better!
the One is a great basis to start on and if they keep churning out iphone killers like this, they will be going in the right direction eventually but it takes time! :good:
I wonder if things would be different if they added a physical home button.
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The HTC One was a success
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Sadly, it wasn't. Success is measured in sales and it grossly underperformed HTC's own estimates as measured by them reporting earnings below their own guidance in both Q2 and Q3; the two quarters where the One should have made a difference. They botched the One's launch and have also botched the Mini's launch. Because of production problems with the latter's casing they can only produce 200K per month. So now comes the Max which is selling for more than the N3 in China where HTC appears to be launching it first. It's got a .2" larger display and appears to be huge and heavy in comparison. HTC's finally starting to attack merging markets (which they should have done two years ago) but price is the biggest driver in those markets and HTC's components costs are now higher than their competitors due to their erosion in volume. Analysts' have a target price on their stock of NTD 100 which is shamefully low. When the stock nears that price someone will acquire HTC; most likely one of the Chinese phone makers.
The One was their last chance for a self-driven turnaround and in spite of it being a fabulous phone, HTC's best to-date, it was too little too late.
HTC has never advertised their products on TV enough in the US market, Samsung is on TV all the time. Also their reps get all the best in-store display space and have signs all over the stores. Advertisements sell the products.
Most mobile customers have never even heard of HTC.
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HTC has never advertised their products on TV enough in the US market, Samsung is on TV all the time. Also their reps get all the best in-store display space and have signs all over the stores. Advertisements sell the products.
Most mobile customers have never even heard of HTC.
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The simple fact of the matter is that Samsung outspend them on marketing 10-1, not just this year but last. It is a matter of Samsung having so many irons in the fire. They are so diversified in so many areas that with slack in one area of their businesses they can push in another area. HTC have never had the resources to compete in the area of "mind share". They are singularly focused which is a bad thing. They grew exponentially but when Samsung got serious they simply outspent HTC, coupled with HTC missteps. Heavens, Samsung outspend Apple 3-1.
I really like my HTC One - the best phone I have had by a big margin. However, I do not see how they can arrest the attrition in their business without much bigger money behind them. As it stands, their margins are shrinking drastically. The only real hope for HTC is I believe with a "merger" (polite for takeover) by probably another Asian company. There is no such thing in this business as a "niche" cell phone manufacturer. R&D, marketing etc cost money and without economies of scale it is almost impossible to make good money and have good products.
I have been using HTC phones since VZW started selling them and feel that the One and DNA were the two best phones they ever made and neither ever got the advertising they deserved. I really hate to see them
fold up but I realize they don't have the resources to continue much longer. They can't fill the orders for the One or the One Mini. Ran out of the metal housings.
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i read an article about HTC being aproached by microsoft. if that happens im turning oppo for sure
Windows phones are not selling now so that wouldn't help HTC.
They need to be bought out by a company with deep pockets that knows how to advertise.
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Enjoy your last HTC device guys. lol
on a side note i was already thinking of switching to Apple iphone. Yeepee. So excited.
Poor production volumn, too high pricing, too late release date are the reasons.
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